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A85045 A discourse of the visible church. In a large debate of this famous question, viz. whether the visible church may be considered to be truely a church of Christ without respect to saving grace? Affirm. Whereunto is added a brief discussion of these three questions. viz. 1. What doth constitute visible church-membership. 2. What doth distinguish it, or render it visible. 3. What doth destroy it, or render it null? Together with a large application of the whole, by way of inference to our churches, sacraments, and censures. Also an appendix touching confirmation, occasioned by the Reverend Mr. Hanmore his pious and learned exercitation of confirmation. By Francis Fulwood minister of the gospel at West-Alvington in Devon. Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693. 1658 (1658) Wing F2500; Thomason E947_3; ESTC R207619 279,090 362

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a_o right_a coram_fw-la deo_fw-la and_o in_o his_o sight_n and_o the_o consequence_n from_o that_o first_o seal_n of_o circumcision_n to_o we_o of_o baptism_n will_v pass_v without_o scruple_n upon_o all_o but_o anabaptist_n with_o who_o i_o be_o not_o now_o dispute_v 10._o to_o be_v bear_v again_o and_o to_o be_v of_o the_o body_n be_v both_o equivalent_a to_o church-membership_a but_o the_o word_n of_o god_n acknowledge_v such_o to_o be_v bear_v again_o and_o to_o be_v of_o or_o in_o the_o body_n the_o one_o great_a body_n of_o christianity_n who_o it_o also_o witness_v to_o have_v no_o save_a grace_n 1._o the_o word_n of_o god_n john_n 3._o 5._o acknowledge_v that_o all_o that_o be_v baptize_v with_o water_n be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n wherefore_o haply_o baptism_n be_v mean_v by_o the_o lavor_fw-la or_o wash_n of_o regeneration_n tit._n 3._o 5._o 2._o the_o word_n of_o god_n acknowledge_v also_o that_o all_o that_o be_v baptize_v be_v baptize_v into_o that_o one_o great_a 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visible_a church-membership_a in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o the_o same_o word_n of_o god_n attribute_v all_o these_o unto_o some_o that_o have_v no_o save_v grace_n 1._o the_o word_n of_o god_n as_o be_v note_v before_o acknowledge_v that_o both_o simon_n magus_n and_o the_o stony_a ground_n believe_v and_o the_o word_n of_o god_n witness_v also_o that_o neither_o simon_n magus_n nor_o the_o stony_a ground_n have_v no_o save_v grace_n 2._o the_o word_n of_o god_n heb._n 10._o 29._o ascribe_v the_o title_n of_o sanctify_a to_o such_o as_o trample_v under_o foot_n the_o son_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n which_o doubtless_o have_v no_o save_v grace_n 3._o the_o word_n of_o god_n 2_o pet._n 2._o 1._o acknowlege_v such_o to_o be_v redeem_v and_o buy_v by_o christ_n who_o yet_o fall_v away_o and_o deny_v he_o and_o bring_v upon_o themselves_o swift_a destruction_n but_o these_o have_v never_o any_o save_a grace_n 4._o the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o the_o last_o place_n acknowledge_v gal._n 5._o 4._o that_o some_o person_n be_v once_o in_o a_o state_n of_o grace_n who_o fall_v from_o grace_n and_o therefore_o such_o as_o never_o have_v any_o save_a grace_n they_o be_v in_o a_o state_n of_o grace_n first_o otherwise_o they_o can_v not_o have_v fall_v from_o grace_n their_o grace_n however_o be_v not_o save_v for_o from_o save_v grace_n none_o do_v ever_o fall_v away_o chap._n xix_o the_o three_o argument_n from_o scripture_n admit_v person_n into_o church-membership_a upon_o account_n diverse_a from_o save_v grace_n the_o difference_n of_o the_o infant_n and_o adult_n estate_n large_o consider_v my_o three_o and_o last_o argument_n from_o the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v ground_v upon_o the_o condition_n of_o admission_n of_o person_n into_o the_o visible_a church_n of_o god_n therein_o allow_v and_o it_o be_v this_o the_o word_n of_o god_n both_o allow_v and_o require_v that_o person_n be_v admit_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n upon_o a_o account_n that_o be_v real_o 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and_o of_o the_o church_n yea_o the_o incestuous_a person_n till_o he_o be_v excommunicate_v and_o this_o as_o he_o add_v they_o of_o the_o separation_n likewise_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v true_a object_n the_o great_a objection_n here_o be_v that_o child_n remain_v church-member_n by_o foederal_a holiness_n until_o they_o come_v unto_o their_o adult_n estate_n indeed_o but_o no_o long_o for_o than_o they_o must_v give_v the_o answer_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n for_o themselves_o and_o continue_v this_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n upon_o the_o account_n of_o their_o own_o faith_n answ_n 1._o i_o ready_o grant_v that_o all_o child_n baptize_v in_o their_o infancy_n ought_v when_o at_o year_n of_o discretion_n to_o give_v this_o answer_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n both_o by_o their_o evidence_n of_o their_o knowledge_n of_o christ_n and_o a_o holy_a conversation_n 2._o i_o further_o grant_v that_o there_o be_v a_o evident_a necessity_n upon_o all_o such_o baptize_v person_n to_o own_o the_o faith_n into_o which_o they_o be_v baptize_v at_o least_o negative_o see_v that_o a_o positive_a renounciing_n thereof_o put_v out_o of_o the_o church_n 3._o yet_o admit_v that_o person_n thus_o baptize_v in_o their_o infant_n state_n state_n do_v not_o give_v such_o answer_n at_o year_n of_o discretion_n either_o of_o their_o knowledge_n or_o holiness_n as_o they_o ought_v to_o do_v it_o by_o no_o mean_n follow_v that_o they_o be_v forthwith_o render_v out_o of_o the_o church_n or_o that_o their_o former_a foederal_n or_o relative_a holiness_n be_v hereby_o incumbent_a for_o these_o reason_n reas_n 1._o the_o word_n of_o god_n wherein_o alone_o his_o mind_n be_v reveal_v have_v no_o where_o evidence_v that_o foederal_n or_o relative_a holiness_n of_o person_n bear_v in_o the_o church_n or_o their_o relation_n to_o the_o church_n thereby_o be_v extinct_a at_o year_n of_o discretion_n or_o remove_v and_o lose_v by_o ignorance_n or_o the_o want_n of_o the_o evidence_n of_o 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charge_v have_v they_o not_o be_v at_o adult_n age_n and_o how_o can_v they_o be_v so_o acknowledge_v have_v they_o have_v no_o foederal_n or_o relative_a holiness_n for_o they_o have_v none_o other_o yea_o to_o put_v it_o out_o of_o further_a question_n this_o people_n be_v express_o say_v to_o be_v a_o holy_a people_n deut._n 14._o 2._o even_o while_o they_o be_v charge_v with_o be_v stiffnecked_a and_o a_o rebellious_a people_n unto_o this_o place_n chap._n 9_o verse_n 6_o 7._o and_o what_o holiness_n can_v that_o be_v that_o be_v consistent_a with_o a_o stiff_a neck_n and_o a_o rebellious_a heart_n but_o a_o covenant-holinesse_n even_o as_o it_o be_v there_o expound_v to_o be_v i_o have_v choose_v thou_o to_o be_v my_o people_n or_o a_o holiness_n of_o separation_n as_o it_o also_o follow_v 2._o deut._n 14._o 2._o to_o be_v a_o peculiar_a people_n unto_o himself_o
ancient_a people_n may_v not_o be_v excommunicate_v shall_v of_o itself_o put_v the_o young_a out_o of_o the_o church_n or_o that_o wickedness_n which_o can_v put_v elder_a person_n out_o with_o censure_n shall_v be_v thus_o effectual_a to_o exclude_v youth_n just_a at_o such_o a_o crisis_n or_o age_n 4._o why_o then_o be_v not_o such_o person_n who_o ignorance_n or_o want_v of_o the_o answer_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n have_v make_v their_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n null_n upon_o their_o after-learning_n etc._n etc._n to_o be_v rebaptised_a 5._o yea_o if_o this_o confirmation_n be_v indeed_o a_o new_a admission_n viz._n upon_o the_o account_n of_o personal_a or_o habitual_a holiness_n and_o the_o former_a ground_n of_o our_o church_n and_o covenant_n interest_n viz._n foederal_a holiness_n do_v pass_v no_o further_o than_o such_o a_o age_n why_o be_v not_o all_o at_o this_o transition_n rebaptise_v we_o be_v no_o long_o in_o covenant_n than_o the_o reason_n of_o be_v in_o covenant_n hold_v and_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n hold_v no_o long_o than_o our_o be_v in_o covenant_n continue_v and_o it_o seem_v the_o reason_n of_o our_o former_a be_v in_o covenant_n be_v now_o lose_v and_o we_o enter_v covenant_n again_o upon_o our_o personal_a a_o new_a account_n why_o then_o must_v not_o we_o have_v the_o seal_n of_o entrance_n apply_v also_o viz._n baptism_n but_o last_o this_o be_v most_o express_o confute_v by_o the_o former_a instance_n of_o ishmael_n he_o be_v bear_v in_o the_o church_n he_o have_v sigillum_fw-la foederis_fw-la put_v upon_o he_o and_o therein_o he_o continue_v though_o wicked_a until_o he_o be_v by_o violence_n cast_v out_o as_o the_o scripture_n witness_v gal._n 4._o 30._o 2._o then_o there_o be_v no_o refuge_n leave_v but_o that_o such_o as_o be_v find_v ignorant_a etc._n etc._n at_o year_n of_o discretion_n be_v to_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n by_o excommunication_n if_o this_o be_v say_v 1._o i_o answer_v that_o it_o be_v hereby_o grant_v i_o that_o the_o interest_n of_o ignorant_a person_n etc._n etc._n be_v real_a until_o they_o be_v excommunicate_v and_o consequent_o that_o such_o person_n may_v be_v that_o be_v actual_o though_o not_o lawful_o real_a member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n as_o have_v no_o save_a grace_n which_o as_o much_o as_o i_o need_v desire_n in_o general_n yea_o or_o in_o this_o particular_a for_o then_o this_o church-membership_a be_v continue_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o foederal_a holiness_n not_o save_v grace_n until_o this_o violent_a accident_n of_o excommunication_n dissolve_v it_o 2._o howsoever_o this_o do_v not_o at_o all_o distinguish_v the_o crisis_n or_o period_n of_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o adult_n estate_n which_o we_o be_v now_o upon_o for_o no_o reason_n can_v possible_o be_v show_v why_o ignorance_n or_o scandal_n shall_v deserve_v this_o censure_n more_o at_o this_o time_n or_o state_n of_o pass_v then_o at_o any_o other_o age_n of_o our_o life_n 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have_v declare_v it_o void_a what_o can_v cast_v he_o out_o but_o excommunication_n whether_o all_o excommunication_n do_v utter_o root_v up_o covenant_n interest_n what_o can_v merit_v so_o great_a a_o penalty_n but_o know_v and_o prove_v scandal_n and_o last_o whether_o all_o or_o any_o ignorance_n at_o ripeness_n of_o age_n or_o unaptnesse_n in_o youth_n to_o learn_v the_o catechism_n be_v tolerable_o to_o be_v account_v according_a to_o scripture_n or_o the_o judgement_n or_o practice_n of_o any_o one_o church_n of_o christ_n a_o scandal_n or_o such_o a_o scandal_n as_o may_v be_v censure_v and_o punish_v with_o utter_a extirpation_n out_o of_o the_o church_n chap._n xx._n objection_n from_o scripture_n consider_v before_o i_o pass_v to_o the_o humane_a authority_n i_o hold_v myself_o bind_v to_o answer_v such_o objection_n against_o my_o scripture-argument_n as_o be_v offer_v thence_o though_o i_o humble_o profess_v i_o can_v hardly_o find_v or_o think_v of_o any_o that_o have_v 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5._o child_n of_o the_o non-confirm●d_a to_o be_v baptise_v in_o attendance_n upon_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n though_o they_o be_v not_o as_o yet_o confirm_v be_v not_o deny_v their_o infant_n baptism_n this_o also_o seem_v to_o be_v grant_v we_o in_o our_o reverend_a author_n own_o principle_n our_o author_n question_n not_o the_o membership_n of_o such_o parent_n yea_o p._n 54_o 60._o further_o he_o argue_v that_o such_o though_o appear_v unworthy_a of_o confirmation_n through_o ignorance_n or_o scandal_n they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v excommunicate_a or_o dismember_v he_o also_o assert_v that_o child_n be_v p._n 25._o with_o 53._o baptize_v by_o virtue_n of_o their_o parent_n membership_n thus_o hence_o we_o may_v be_v bold_a to_o reason_n where_o there_o be_v membership_n in_o the_o parent_n there_o the_o child_n may_v be_v baptize_v if_o child_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v by_o virtue_n of_o their_o parent_n membership_n but_o there_o be_v membership_n in_o such_o parent_n as_o be_v baptize_v and_o not_o excommunicate_v nor_o to_o be_v excommunicate_v therefore_o the_o child_n of_o such_o parent_n may_v be_v baptize_v and_o that_o regular_o as_o p._n 53._o our_o author_n add_v according_a to_o the_o word_n finis_fw-la