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render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o findo_fw-mi scindo_fw-mi so_o they_o render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d findere_fw-la scindere_fw-la qui_fw-la pannum_fw-la aut_fw-la aliquod_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la continuum_fw-la dirumpit_fw-la etc._n etc._n buxt_v schind_a pagn_n merc._n hence_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v render_v scissura_fw-la so_o the_o 70._o in_o v._o 30_o &_o 31_o render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d scissurae_fw-la so_o the_o vulgar_a render_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 31._o nor_o do_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d always_o signify_v the_o rend_n of_o a_o thing_n into_o part_n in_o opposition_n to_o the_o doctor_n be_v notion_n more_o then_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o among_o the_o physician_n a_o rapture_n in_o a_o membrane_n the_o rend_n of_o a_o muscle_n they_o call_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d though_o the_o part_n be_v not_o separate_v from_o the_o body_n so_o gorraeus_n 2._o because_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o 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haec_fw-la scissio_fw-la maxim_n perficitur_fw-la &_o apparet_fw-la in_o debita_fw-la communione_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la recusanda_fw-la idcirco_fw-la illa_fw-la separatio_fw-la per_fw-la appropriationem_fw-la singularem_fw-la recte_fw-la voco_fw-la schisma_fw-la thus_o he_o mr._n norton_n thus_o schisma_fw-la est_fw-la illicita_fw-la separatio_fw-la a_o communione_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la semper_fw-la grande_fw-fr malum_fw-la i_o will_v look_v no_o further_o these_o be_v sufficient_a now_o for_o the_o catholick-church_n i_o be_o to_o prove_v there_o may_v be_v schism_n in_o it_o for_o my_o groundwork_n i_o lay_v that_o text_n 1_o cor._n 12.25_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o schism_n in_o the_o body_n if_o by_o the_o body_n in_o this_o text_n be_v mean_v the_o catholick-church_n visible_a than_o schism_n may_v be_v in_o the_o catholick-church_n visible_a but_o the_o antecedent_n be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o consequence_n can_v be_v deny_v the_o antecedent_n be_v to_o be_v prove_v that_o by_o the_o body_n be_v mean_v the_o church_n the_o doctor_n yield_v schis_fw-la p._n 147._o but_o what_o church_n he_o speak_v of_o be_v not_o evident_a the_o difference_n he_o speak_v of_o in_o the_o individual_a person_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o in_o respect_n of_o office_n power_n and_o authority_n but_o gift_n and_o grace_n and_o usefulness_n on_o that_o account_n thus_o he_o but_o i_o have_v think_v that_o by_o apostle_n prophet_n teacher_n help_n government_n v._o 28._o he_o have_v proper_o speak_v of_o office_n power_n and_o authority_n be_v gift_n and_o grace_n mean_v by_o these_o word_n very_o strange_a but_o to_o come_v to_o our_o text._n if_o the_o church_n be_v here_o mean_v than_o it_o be_v either_o the_o church_n invisible_a or_o visible_a but_o not_o the_o invisible_a that_o the_o chapter_n clear_v and_o the_o doctor_n say_v it_o be_v impossible_a schism_n shall_v be_v in_o the_o invisible_a church_n if_o visible_a then_o either_o the_o catholic_n or_o a_o 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