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he_o now_o &_o return_v to_o some_o hand_n summer_n discourse_n and_o show_v you_o that_o as_o they_o be_v find_v to_o falter_v touch_v the_o particular_a drift_n of_o every_o word_n in_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n as_o the_o blessing_n break_v &_o this_o be_v my_o body_n so_o if_o those_o be_v grant_v unto_o they_o to_o be_v as_o they_o will_v lay_v they_o down_o themselves_o &_o that_o we_o shall_v agree_v and_o say_v with_o they_o that_o the_o real_a and_o substantial_a body_n of_o christ_n be_v present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n yet_o can_v they_o not_o tell_v you_o neither_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o presence_n way_n art_n 5._o cont_n juell_n fol._n 127._o b._n christ_n give_v his_o diciple_n the_o same_o body_n which_o suffer_v on_o the_o cross_n &_o the_o same_o body_n be_v there_o corporal_o carnal_o and_o natural_o but_o not_o after_o a_o corporal_a carnal_a or_o natural_a wise_a but_o in_o visible_o spiritual_o divinly_a &_o by_o way_n to_o he_o only_o 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of_o the_o church_n to_o say_v that_o christ_n body_n be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n real_o substantial_o corporal_o carnal_o and_o natural_o by_o use_n of_o which_o adverbe_n they_o have_v mean_v only_o a_o truth_n of_o be_v so_o that_o we_o may_v say_v that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n his_o very_a body_n be_v present_a real_o that_o be_v to_o say_v indeed_o substantial_o that_o be_v in_o substance_n and_o corporal_o carnal_o &_o natural_o by_o which_o word_n be_v mean_v that_o his_o very_a body_n his_o very_a flesh_n and_o his_o very_a humane_a nature_n be_v there_o not_o after_o corporal_a carnal_a or_o natural_a wise_a but_o invisible_o unspeakeable_o miraculous_o supernatural_o spiritual_o divine_o and_o by_o way_n to_o he_o only_o know_v again_o concern_v the_o manner_n of_o the_o presence_n say_v he_o &_o be_v of_o that_o body_n &_o blood_n in_o the_o sacrament_n they_o that_o be_v the_o father_n &_o we_o acknowledge_v and_o confess_v that_o it_o be_v not_o local_a circumscriptine_n definitive_a or_o subiective_n or_o natural_a but_o such_o as_o be_v know_v to_o god_n only_o in_o the_o next_o article_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n say_v he_o be_v make_v present_a in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n of_o the_o altar_n under_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n &_o wine_n not_o after_o a_o gross_a &_o carnal_a manner_n but_o spiritual_o &_o supernatural_o &_o yet_o substantial_o not_o by_o local_a but_o by_o substantial_a presence_n not_o by_o manner_n of_o quantity_n or_o fill_v of_o a_o place_n or_o by_o change_v of_o place_n or_o by_o leave_v his_o sit_v on_o the_o right_a hand_n of_o god_n but_o in_o such_o a_o manner_n as_o god_n only_o know_v and_o yet_o do_v we_o to_o understand_v by_o faith_n the_o truth_n of_o his_o very_a presence_n far_o pass_v all_o man_n capacity_n to_o comprehend_v the_o manner_n how_o historia_fw-la maxima_fw-la nascitur_fw-la do_v nihilo_fw-la if_o m._n hardinge_n know_v not_o how_o it_o be_v in_o he_o a_o idle_a diligence_n to_o be_v so_o copious_a in_o strive_v to_o express_v the_o manner_n how_o have_v not_o he_o tell_v we_o he_o have_v express_v our_o belief_n &_o his_o own_o two_o which_o be_v more_o than_o the_o manner_n how_o corporal_o carnal_o natural_o say_v he_o spiritual_o dinine_o say_v we_o and_o yet_o he_o say_v all_o confound_v substantial_o &_o spiritual_o god_n do_v we_o to_o understand_v say_v he_o by_o faith_n the_o truth_n of_o the_o presence_n what_o need_v faith_n sale_n i_o it_o be_v take_v into_o the_o hand_n from_o the_o hand_n confer_v to_o the_o mouth_n &_o there_o they_o fasten_v their_o tooth_n 29._o bellar._n de_fw-fr sac_fw-la euch_fw-ge l._n 1._o c._n 2._o f._n 28._o 29._o and_o from_o thence_o to_o the_o stomach_n the_o sense_n of_o sight_n &_o feeling_n have_v their_o office_n here_o faith_n have_v none_o neither_o be_v it_o hard_o to_o comprehend_v all_o this_o and_o more_o two_o here_o be_v also_o one_o &_o the_o same_o christ_n with_o proportion_n of_o body_n &_o member_n distinct_a each_o from_o other_o &_o also_o without_o distinction_n of_o member_n &_o part_n which_o overthrow_v the_o truth_n of_o a_o natural_a body_n and_o yet_o so_o they_o make_v he_o at_o one_o and_o the_o lame_a time_n at_o the_o table_n and_o under_o the_o show_n of_o bread_n not_o by_o local_a but_o by_o substantial_a presence_n not_o by_o manner_n of_o quantity_n or_o fill_v of_o a_o place_n and_o yet_o the_o same_o man_n do_v say_v before_o b._n art_n 5._o fol._n 130._o b._n put_v &_o lay_v fide_fw-la intelligamus_fw-la situm_fw-la in_o sacra_fw-la illa_fw-la mensa_fw-la agnum_fw-la illum_fw-la dei_fw-la sunt_fw-la verba_fw-la magni_fw-la niceni_n synodi_fw-la ex_fw-la cut_v tonstall_n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr euchar_n fol._n 40._o &_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la
conclude_v mattâ—…s_n of_o doctrine_n on_o the_o contrary_a side_n we_o hold_v in_o few_o word_n that_o they_o may_v err_v in_o all_o have_v no_o more_o assurance_n from_o above_o for_o the_o one_o then_o for_o the_o other_o for_o confirmation_n of_o which_o our_o position_n we_o allege_v s._n augustine_n who_o speak_v both_o of_o the_o private_a writing_n of_o bishop_n and_o of_o counsel_n hold_v in_o particular_a region_n and_o of_o general_a counsel_n gather_v of_o the_o christian_a world_n say_v etipa_n concilia_fw-la quae_fw-la per_fw-la singulas_fw-la regiones_fw-la vel_fw-la provincias_fw-la fiunt_fw-la 3._o tun_n 6._o the_o bapt_a con_fw-mi donat._n l._n â—_o c._n 3._o plenariorum_fw-la conciliorum_fw-la authoritati_fw-la quae_fw-la fiunt_fw-la ux_fw-la universo_fw-la orbe_fw-la christiano_fw-it sine_fw-la ullis_fw-la ambagibus_fw-la cederâ—_n and_o even_o those_o counsel_n which_o be_v hold_v in_o every_o region_n or_o province_n without_o all_o doubt_n must_v give_v place_n to_o general_a counsel_n which_o be_v gather_v of_o all_o the_o christian_n world_n and_o that_o even_o the_o general_a counsel_n themselves_o be_v often_o correct_v the_o former_a by_o the_o late_a when_o by_o any_o trial_n of_o thing_n that_o be_v open_v which_o be_v shut_v up_o and_o that_o be_v know_v which_o be_v hide_v without_o any_o swell_n of_o sacrilegious_a pride_n without_o any_o stiff_a neck_n of_o arrogancy_n without_o any_o contention_n of_o malicious_a envy_n with_o holy_a humility_n with_o catholic_a peace_n with_o christian_a charity_n here_o we_o have_v a_o plain_a place_n that_o only_o the_o holy_a scripture_n can_v err_v that_o all_o other_o writer_n may_v err_v that_o all_o provincial_a counsel_n may_v err_v and_o last_o of_o all_o general_a counsel_n themselves_o may_v be_v correct_v the_o former_a by_o the_o late_a therefore_o without_o question_n they_o may_v err_v they_o agree_v with_o we_o in_o this_o text_n of_o s._n augustine_n but_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o word_n not_o withstand_v they_o be_v very_o plain_a they_o do_v deny_v frame_v the_o text_n to_o as_o many_o fashion_n as_o possible_a they_o may_v they_o seem_v by_o their_o answer_n utter_o unacquainted_a with_o the_o occasion_n of_o s._n augustine_n discourse_n in_o that_o place_n as_o though_o it_o be_v a_o very_a hard_a thing_n either_o to_o see_v the_o original_n 〈◊〉_d have_v see_v it_o to_o judge_v of_o it_o but_o the_o multiplicity_n and_o crokednesse_n of_o their_o shift_n do_v plain_o show_v that_o the_o authority_n make_v against_o they_o and_o for_o us._n andradius_fw-la the_o defender_n of_o the_o tridentine_a counsel_n shift_n andr._n defeal_n conc_fw-fr trid._n l._n 1._o fol._n 51._o 53._o they_o may_v be_v explain_v or_o unfold_v be_v the_o first_o shift_n say_v that_o s._n augustine_n seem_v to_o he_o to_o say_v no_o more_o but_o that_o late_a counsel_n may_v with_o clearness_n unfold_v those_o thing_n which_o the_o former_a have_v overslip_v and_o that_o s._n augustine_n insinuate_v so_o much_o where_o he_o say_v when_o by_o trial_n of_o thing_n that_o be_v open_v whâ—…h_n be_v shut_v up_o and_o be_v know_v which_o be_v hide_v this_o gloss_n of_o andradius_fw-la will_v soon_o eat_v out_o the_o bowel_n of_o the_o text_n s._n augustine_n say_v a_o general_a council_n may_v be_v amend_v &_o therefore_o correct_v which_o be_v more_o than_o to_o be_v explain_v or_o unfold_v and_o the_o opposition_n that_o s._n augustine_n make_v between_o the_o holy_a scripture_n which_o be_v not_o to_o err_v &_o all_o other_o authority_n must_v needs_o stand_v firm_a &_o that_o must_v be_v infer_v upon_o general_a counsel_n which_o can_v 〈◊〉_d speak_v of_o the_o scripture_n but_o the_o scripture_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v unfold_v explain_v or_o enlighten_v but_o not_o correct_v therefore_o s._n augustine_n mean_v more_o of_o general_a counsel_n than_o so_o member_n advers._fw-la haer_fw-mi l._n c._n 8._o fol._n 17._o a._n leave_v out_o the_o principal_a 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