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to_o embark_v himself_o in_o a_o paper_n frigate_n man_v with_o great_a word_n to_o encounter_v with_o all_o for_o law-breaker_n that_o be_v not_o seventh-day_n sabbath-keeper_n compare_v mr._n ives_n who_o dispute_v against_o his_o opinion_n to_o a_o beat_a cock_n that_o be_v ready_a to_o hide_v his_o head_n in_o any_o hole_n pag._n 27._o which_o if_o he_o do_v this_o ensue_a account_n of_o the_o disputation_n will_v make_v appear_v in_o the_o mean_a time_n let_v every_o one_o that_o read_v mr._n spittlchouse_n his_o forementioned_a book_n see_v how_o he_o rather_o blast_v himself_o then_o his_o err_a adversary_n for_o he_o go_v to_o prove_v against_o mr._n ives_n that_o the_o sabbath_n ought_v to_o be_v keep_v by_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n in_o his_o postscript_n pag._n 26._o and_o yet_o in_o pag._n 28._o he_o cry_v out_o against_o mr._n ives_n for_o that_o he_o go_v to_o disprove_v the_o morality_n of_o it_o by_o the_o light_n of_o nature_n compare_v he_o to_o the_o quaker_n that_o 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meridian_n the_o antipode_n midnight_n cloudy_a speculation_n the_o moon_n in_o her_o constant_a inconstancy_n and_o the_o star_n in_o the_o expanded_a firmament_n the_o empyreal_a heaven_n etc._n etc._n pag_n 8_o 36_o 42_o 44_o 166._o neither_o do_v his_o book_n want_v rhetorical_a expression_n to_o carry_v on_o that_o which_o he_o want_v argument_n to_o maintain_v call_v those_o that_o be_v prosolit_v to_o his_o seventh-day_n sabbath-keeping_a ingenious_a mount_a refine_a spirit_n and_o other_o base-born_a muck-worm_n pag._n 28._o again_o he_o call_v the_o contrary_a opinion_n a_o shady_a speculation_n pag._n 8._o again_o he_o be_v full_a of_o such_o phrase_n as_o these_o viz._n idea_n of_o the_o deity_n igitur_fw-la emphatical_a demonstrative_a particle_n high_a encomium_n intrinsical_a abstruse_a and_o intricate_a perspicuity_n the_o superlative_a presence_n celerity_n distract_n labyrinth_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 9_o 12_o 92_o 47_o 54_o 82._o logical_a and_o poetical_a term_n be_v frequent_o find_v in_o his_o writing_n as_o dilemma_n scylla_n and_o charybdis_n meander_n ariadne_n clue_n the_o father_n of_o daemon_n etc._n etc._n who_o will_v think_v that_o aeman_n shall_v garnish_v his_o book_n with_o such_o phrass_n as_o these_o and_o yet_o resuse_v academical_a learning_n in_o disputation_n as_o savour_v of_o fleshly_a wisdom_n nay_o though_o he_o decry_v syllogism_n as_o a_o carnal_a way_n of_o discourse_n yet_o he_o sometime_o do_v syllogise_v in_o his_o book_n as_o the_o reader_n may_v see_v in_o p._n 19_o etc._n 19_o i_o cite_v not_o these_o passage_n to_o the_o end_n that_o i_o may_v be_v think_v to_o be_v a_o hater_n of_o humane_a learning_n for_o i_o know_v it_o be_v of_o great_a use_n and_o deserve_o to_o be_v honour_v but_o to_o the_o end_n that_o the_o reader_n may_v take_v notice_n that_o mr._n tillam_n can_v cast_v honour_n upon_o learning_n when_o he_o think_v it_o will_v honour_v his_o cause_n but_o when_o it_o be_v use_v against_o he_o or_o make_v for_o the_o detect_v his_o error_n than_o he_o decry_v it_o as_o vain_a and_o say_v he_o be_v sure_a that_o it_o be_v not_o of_o god_n etc._n etc._n &_o its_o worth_n observe_v that_o while_o dr._n chamberlain_n do_v dispute_v syllogistical_o when_o he_o be_v mr._n ives_n his_o opponent_n mr._n tillam_n do_v not_o show_v any_o public_a dislike_n of_o such_o kind_n of_o disputation_n but_o when_o mr._n tillam_n come_v to_o respond_v to_o mr._n ives_n his_o argument_n than_o he_o inveige_v against_o it_o as_o a_o carnal_a thing_n and_o yet_o for_o all_o this_o when_o mr._n tillam_n come_v to_o take_v upon_o he_o the_o part_n of_o a_o opponent_n the_o next_o day_n mr._n ives_n desire_v he_o if_o he_o will_v not_o discourse_v syllogistical_o that_o he_o will_v prove_v the_o position_n by_o plain_a scripture_n to_o which_o mr._n tillam_n reply_v that_o there_o be_v no_o text_n that_o in_o so_o many_o word_n will_v prove_v what_o he_o have_v assert_v then_o mr._n ives_n ask_v he_o why_o he_o blame_v people_n for_o prove_v their_o practice_n by_o a_o consequence_n as_o he_o do_v in_o his_o book_n pag._n 96._o if_o he_o can_v not_o prove_v his_o own_o practice_n without_o a_o consequence_n hereupon_o he_o be_v force_v to_o take_v sanctuary_n at_o a_o syllogism_n as_o hereafter_o will_v appear_v though_o all_o along_o he_o blame_v mr._n ives_n very_o sharp_o for_o use_v such_o a_o carnal_a weapon_n to_o discourse_v withal_o let_v i_o beseech_v you_o therefore_o from_o what_o have_v be_v say_v to_o suspect_v those_o man_n who_o be_v full_a of_o entice_a word_n and_o empty_a of_o solid_a argument_n and_o this_o be_v not_o only_o my_o advice_n but_o the_o apopostle_n who_o tell_v we_o 2_o pet._n 2._o that_o with_o feign_a word_n some_o shall_v make_v merchandise_n of_o god_n people_n and_o therefore_o he_o bid_v the_o colossian_n in_o the_o 2_o chapter_n of_o that_o epistle_n to_o take_v heed_n lest_o any_o man_n beguile_v they_o through_o entice_a word_n you_o see_v then_o that_o good_a man_n may_v be_v spoil_v of_o their_o joy_n and_o church_n of_o their_o peace_n by_o such_o who_o by_o good_a word_n and_o fair_a speech_n deceive_v the_o heart_n of_o the_o simple_a rom._n 16.18_o be_v ready_a therefore_o to_o vent_v nothing_o for_o truth_n but_o what_o you_o may_v be_v able_a to_o give_v a_o reason_n of_o to_o they_o that_o ask_v you_o with_o meekness_n and_o fear_n 1_o pet._n 3.15_o last_o let_v i_o caution_n thou_o to_o have_v a_o care_v not_o only_a how_o thou_o receive_v a_o opinion_n and_o how_o thou_o promote_a it_o but_o also_o how_o thou_o keep_v and_o retaine_v it_o if_o thou_o find_v that_o it_n be_v truth_n thou_o have_v receive_v know_v that_o her_o price_n be_v far_o above_o ruby_n and_o no_o pleasure_n be_v to_o be_v compare_v to_o it_o say_v solomon_n prov._n 8.11_o this_o the_o poet_n see_v when_o he_o elegant_o express_v the_o estate_n of_o that_o man_n that_o have_v gain_v the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o truth_n say_v that_o it_o 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command_n that_o require_v the_o observation_n of_o the_o seven_o day_n and_o yet_o i_o may_v not_o be_v guilty_a of_o sin_n dr._n chamberlain_n he_o that_o be_v guilty_a of_o the_o breach_n of_o the_o whole_a law_n be_v guilty_a of_o sin_n but_o he_o that_o break_v any_o one_o of_o the_o ten_o commandment_n be_v guilty_a of_o the_o breach_n of_o the_o whole_a law_n ergo._n mr._n ives_n i_o answer_v by_o distinguish_v of_o the_o term_n he_o in_o the_o major_a proposition_n for_o if_o you_o do_v not_o mean_v every_o he_o than_o i_o deny_v the_o syllogism_n and_o if_o you_o do_v mean_v every_o he_o or_o every_o one_o than_o i_o deny_v the_o minor_a for_o these_o reason_n first_o this_o text_n that_o you_o refer_v to_o in_o your_o argument_n be_v write_v to_o the_o twelve_o tribe_n jam._n 1.1_o and_o therefore_o you_o can_v reasonable_o conclude_v that_o because_o the_o twelve_o tribe_n be_v bind_v to_o the_o whole_a law_n that_o therefore_o every_o believe_a gentile_n be_v so_o bind_v 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circumcision_n also_o and_o every_o other_o ceremony_n of_o the_o law_n therefore_o there_o apostle_n say_v gal._n 5.3_o that_o if_o they_o be_v circumcise_v they_o be_v bind_v to_o keep_v the_o whole_a law_n by_o which_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o believe_a gentile_n that_o be_v not_o circumcise_v be_v not_o bind_v to_o keep_v the_o whole_a law_n so_o that_o when_o st._n james_n enjoin_v the_o keep_n of_o the_o whole_a law_n he_o tell_v we_o what_o law_n he_o mean_v in_o chap._n 1._o v._o â—â—_o compare_v with_o chap._n 2._o v._n 12._o where_o he_o call_v it_o the_o law_n of_o liberty_n by_o way_n of_o distinction_n from_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n which_o be_v call_v a_o yoke_n of_o bondage_n gal._n 4.3_o 9_o &_o act_v 15.10_o which_o law_n of_o liberty_n be_v call_v the_o law_n of_o christ_n gal_n 6.2_o and_o be_v no_o less_o than_o the_o gospel_n that_o be_v preach_v which_o s._n james_n bid_v they_o not_o to_o be_v forgetful_a hearer_n of_o jam._n 1.25_o but_o admonish_v they_o 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