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A40200 Here you may see what was the true honour amongst the Jewes to magistrates, kings, fathers, mothers, masters, dames, and old men, which did not use the putting off the hat, nor scraping backward the foot ... Fox, George, 1624-1691. 1660 (1660) Wing F1841; ESTC R35523 11,241 17

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Here you may see what was The True Honour Amongst the JEWES To Magistrates Kings Fathers Mothers Masters Dames and Old Men which did not use the putting off the Hat nor scraping backwards the Foot And what was the Honour they Forbade And what is the Honour Peter speaks of To Honour all men and to them that Rule Well that was worthy of Double Honour among whom the putting off the Hat was not used which honour of Christians since the Apostles dayes have turned to putting off the Hat and scraping Backwards but putting off the Hat on Bonnet or Covering was not used among the Jewes nor in those parts of the World though they were to Honour and Esteem and Respect all Men loving Enemies Which Practice according to Scripture we own practice Honouring all men and them that Rule Well double Honour as Fathers Mothers Masters Dames c. 1 Pet. 4.1 2. London Printed for Robert Wilson at the Black-Spread-Eagle and Wind-mill in Martin l'Grand 1660. Here you may See what was the True Honour amongst the Jewes to Magistrates Kings Fathers Mothers Masters Dames and Old Men who did not use the putting off the Hat nor Scraping Backwards the Foot and what was the Honour they Forbade and what is the Honour Peter Spake of to Honour all Men c. The Objections of the World and the Professors Teachers and Magistrates against the QVAKERS Answered FIrst say They You do not Honour all Men which is according to the Apostles Doctrine in the Scriptures as in 1 Pet. 2.17 Honour all men Love the Brotherhood Fear God Honour the King And them that Do Well are Worthy of Double Honour Answ Now to Honour all men is to have all men in Esteem or to Regard them as the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ●●nifies And to Honour the King and them that Rule Well who are Worthy of Double Honour That is They should have Double Esteem more than they that are Ruled yet they that are Ruled are to be had in Esteem if all men be Honoured Though they that Rule Well have Double Esteem for Honour is Esteem Now they that do esteem all men will not hurt them will do no man hurt Now they that do esteem Governors and Rulers with double esteem more than common people they will never hurt their Governors nor those Rulers nor people they do esteem So if all Christendom had esteemed their Governors and Rulers or one another they would never have hurt them for if they esteem them they love them And had the esteemed all men and people they would never have hurt one another for they that esteeme one another they love one another and they that love one another will not hurt one another nor suffer others to hurt them but esteem one another For will a man hurt that Magistrate he doth esteem And all men are to be esteemed and them that Rule Well are worthy of Double Esteem and then will they hurt them therefore if you esteem them you will do no hurt to them but this esteem that men should have to one another hath been turned and is turned to the putting off the Hat and scraping the Foot and bowing the Knee and he that doe this is taken for an esteemer of men and an honourer of Magistrates but they that do this which is accounted the Honour in these dayes yet will Kill and Slay one another and Slight and Dis-esteem one another and Defraud and Deceive and deal Traytously one with another and Dis-esteeming one another which cannot properly be called the Honour which the Scripture speaks of Have one another in esteem men may have one another in esteem and yet never put off hat nor scrape the foot so you may see they are not the truest people that do Cap and Scrape which is called a Worship and an Honour for all the Murtherers of one another and of Kings and other Magistrate● they have been such as Knee put off the Hat and scrape but had they had one another in esteem and truly regarded each others good and the Rulers in double esteem they would never have hurt them nor one another And so according to the Scripture to Honour all men is to esteem or regard all men and they that are worthy of double they are worthy of double esteem which we own And this practice was and is where there is no putting off Hats and they that do Honour which is Respect Regard or Esteem do beautifie and double beautifie them that Rule Well and Adorn them as you may read you own words holds forth 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Honoro in Honore habeo magni aestimo Interdum earum babeo Od. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Iliad 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Tanto habuit in pretio tam delxit quam natos suos And this is with that Respect which men have from God who feare him and who fear him have that with which he Beautifies and Adornes and who fear God keeps the Commands of Christ Jesus love enemies and who love enemies esteem them and who esteem them Honour all men and sees them that Rule Well worthy of Double Honour Double Esteem and these are they that come to keep brotherly fellowship which is in the Light for if we walk in the Light as he is in the Light we have fellowship one with another and the fellowship is in the Spirit which is the bond of peace which plungeth down the Corruptions which makes men Dishonorable makes men Dis-esteem one another with which Spirit he comes to give Honour to that part which is lacking so we have those members in esteem which are least so that in the fellowship if one Member be Honoured or Esteemed as your Teaching Books holds forth in this place also signifies esteem even according to your own Rules of Words and Teaching Books though you render it honour Now unto the King Everlasting Immortal Invisible unto God only wise be Honour and Glory for Ever and Ever 1 Tim. 17. Now the Apostles the Saints amongst all the Courts amongst all the Jewes the people of God of Old we do never Read that they ever fell out one with another or persecuted one another or put any out of places or Imprisoned or fined any or one another for not putting off their Hats or for not bowing or scraping but the Prophets and Christ judged them that Honoured with their Lips so there was a Lip Honour And was not that Lip Honour beyond that of the Hat and are they not now to be judged when the heart is far off seeing it is the heart satisfies And who had all men in esteem and gave double to them who are worthy of it was not this in the reallity in the heart and it is Read in the Scriptures that they did wear Hats as in Dan. 3. yet never Forced Fined nor Imprisoned for not putting off their Hats and say they had not men in esteem except they
did put off the Hat Now if men had men in esteem that do put off the Hat and had that been the Estemation then had all been preserved in Unity and Peace and the Jews and other scattered people which Peter wrote to were to have one another in esteem and the Elders in double Esteem which he doth not say consisteth or standeth in putting off the Hat neither do we read that the Jews used it neither do they who are Native true-Born Jews or Hebrews at this day practice putting off the Hat in honour one of another And the Turks counts it an odious or hateful practise to put off the Hat yet they are to Honour so that it is a Proverb or By-word among them that they had rather show their bare head Now those especially which Labour in the Word and Doctrine are to be Double Esteemed for they are cloathed with Honour and them that Labour in the Word and Doctrine they love enemies and they must of necessity have all men in esteem that love them and them that Rule Well they cannot but have in double Esteem Joh. 12. He that Honoureth the Son Honoureth the Father and that all men should Honour the Son as they Honour the Father and he that Honoureth not the Son Honoureth not the Father Now Honour is as before 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to Esteem or Respect the Son he that Esteemeth not the Son Esteemeth not the Father or he that Esteemeth or Regardeth the Son Esteemeth or Regardeth his Light wherewith he is Lighted who Enlightneth every man that cometh into the world and he that Esteemeth not the Light Esteemeth neither for in that is the Fellowship Now there is an honour which is from below which people while they are seeking cannot Believe which honour the Pharisees were seeking which was the esteem they sought from one another but did not seek that which was from Above And there is an honouring with lips there is an esteem and there is an honouring with the Hat called the honour now a dayes and have left the esteeming and double esteeming according to Scripture which is in Truth and Righteousness in the Heart which if men were in they would never hurt one another nor fearing of being hurt one by another And Christ saith A Prophet is not without Honour save in his own Country and there is an Honour to Father and Mother and Servants to Honour their Masters where the Circumstance of putting off the Hat is not therefore you must know and consider this to have them in esteem and to count them estimable and so honourable No man that taketh this honour to himself Mat. 25. but he that is called of God as Aaron was Heb. 5. Now the cry is that none doth nor ever shall hear Gods voyce while upon earth therefore how can they have that honour or esteem or know that esteem which Aaron had now the vessels of holyness are vessells of honour and are in esteem in Gods eyes but such as deny the Spirit of God within them and the Light within them deny that whereby they should have all men in esteem and Rulers in double esteem and to have God in esteem and his Son in esteem And so denying the Spirit of God within and the Light of Christ within they put their Honour to the Hat and Bowing Scraping are offended if they have it not so living out of the Will of God which is Sanctification by which they should receive that Honour which is from above and so are in a Will-Worship and fained Humility without any true Honour neglecting the body for the satisfying of the flesh honouring with their Lips and people with their Hats when their Hearts are afar off And putting off the Hat is but a Fashion of the World and an outward thing like unto the Lip Honour and Tradition of men which must not be touched nor tasted nor followed The Apostles were in Honour and Dishonour where they preached up and down so some Esteemed them and some Disesteemed them now them that Disesteemed them Persecuted if they had esteemed them they would not have Persecuted them nor have Hurt them now this you cannot put to the Hat or to them That did not put off their Hats to them for do you not think all those that have Murthered and Persecuted one another would not put off their Hats to them and to one another and all the Betrayers of one another and Backbiters and Evill Speakers and Underminers of one another Will not these Honour the same person with the Lip and Cap Now if these had one another in Esteeme which is to Love one another then Love would never hurt nor plot nor disturb nor raise insurrections one against another if they honoured all men 2. Object Let every Soul be subject to the Higher Power Rom. 13. And you doe not put off your Hats And the Scripture saith he that Resisteth the Power resisteth the Ordinance of God and they that do so receive to themselves Judgement Answ Now the Soul which is Immortall must be subject to the Power there is no power but of God and this power is over that Powers of Darkness which are called * That are out of Truth Rulers and Power now to this the Soul is subject and he that resisteth this resisteth the Ordinance of God Here you may see that Power is Gods Ordinance which the Soul must be subject to and Honour to whom Honour and Custome to whom Custome and Tribute to whom Tribute and Esteeme to whom Esteem And the Powers which be are ordained of God to which the Soul must be subject for there is no Power but which is of God That is there is no Supream Authority Rule or Governments that are ordained by his Power but are of God and the Powers and Principalities and Thrones which the Apostles wrestled withall with Spirituall Weapons and the Rulers of Darkness in high places these were contrary to the power of God which went over them unto these their Souls were not subject for they wrestled against them Therefore that power which the Soul must be subject to is not that which is wrestlest against with Spirituall Weapons which is Christ the Power of God which Subjects all Powers Rulers and Governments unto himself but it is that which minds the lip-honour and the hat and the honour below 3. Object Be kindly affectionated one to another with brotherly love Rom. 12. In honour preferring one before another Now here is esteeming one another in love so as I said before they do never hurt one another who prefer and esteeme one another Now the Christians were to honour all men that is to have all men in esteem even to love enemies and were not to hurt any Creature upon earth Submit your selves to every ordinance of man for the Lords sake whether it be to the King as Supream or other Governours or Superiours or Rulers or Magistrates who are for the punishment of