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115._o extreme_a unction_n either_o be_v a_o sacrament_n or_o it_o be_v not_o pro._n it_o be_v not_o pa._n why_o then_o have_v it_o the_o visible_a sign_n the_o priest_n prayer_n â—nd_v the_o anoint_v with_o oil_n of_o a_o invisible_a grace_n james_n 13_o 14_o 15_o pro._n it_o have_v no_o sign_n of_o a_o invisible_a grace_n st._n james_n â—n_v that_o place_n speak_v of_o it_o as_o a_o mean_n to_o heal_v the_o sick_a but_o â—hat_n be_v no_o invisible_a grace_n therefore_o it_o be_v no_o sacrament_n whether_o that_o rite_n be_v still_o to_o be_v retain_v be_v another_o question_n and_o not_o to_o our_o purpose_n pa._n 116._o holy_a order_n either_o be_v a_o sacrament_n or_o it_o be_v not_o pro._n it_o be_v not_o pa._n why_o then_o have_v it_o the_o visible_a sign_n the_o word_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o the_o thing_n give_v to_o he_o that_o be_v ordain_v of_o a_o invisible_a grace_n according_a to_o that_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o neglect_n not_o the_o grace_n that_o be_v in_o thou_o by_o 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but_o a_o invisible_a action_n neither_o be_v there_o any_o supernatural_a grace_n give_v by_o it_o for_o none_o of_o those_o text_n you_o cite_v mention_n any_o such_o thing_n that_o of_o eph._n 5._o you_o have_v fassify_v st._n paul_n say_v not_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n but_o a_o mystery_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d pa._n 118._o a_o visible_a sign_n of_o a_o invisible_a grace_n divine_o institute_v by_o christ_n either_o be_v the_o true_a definition_n of_o a_o sacrament_n or_o it_o be_v not_o pro._n it_o be_v not_o pa._n then_o you_o deny_v the_o definition_n which_o yourselves_o attribute_v to_o a_o sacrament_n pro._n you_o be_v mistake_v for_o that_o be_v only_o a_o part_n of_o the_o definition_n we_o say_v that_o a_o sacrament_n must_v be_v not_o only_o a_o outward_a and_o visible_a sign_n of_o a_o inward_a and_o spritual_a grace_n ordain_v by_o christ_n but_o it_o must_v also_o be_v a_o mean_n whereby_o we_o receive_v the_o same_o and_o a_o pledge_n to_o assure_v we_o of_o 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