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A67229 An anti-christian conspiracy detected, and Satan's champion defeated being a reply to an envious & scurrilous libel without any name to it, called, Work for a cooper : being also a vindication of my book, entituled, The antiquity of the Quakers ... / by me Thomas Wynne. Wynne, Thomas. 1679 (1679) Wing W3781; ESTC R34103 42,818 59

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Trembling is no New Thing among God's People but that it was a State that all God's People passed through and that all now must pass through before ever they can enter God's Kingdom according to these Scriptures Sion shall be redeemed with Judgment Isa 1.27 And they shall Mourn for him as for an only Son and be in Bitterness as for a first born Zach. 12. and must know God to be as a Resiners Fire and as Fullers Soap and must know his Word of Power to be sharper than a two-edged Sword to divide between the Joynts and the Marrow Thus Judgment must be set up in the Heart for Sin and then the Cry will be with the Apostle Paul Oh Wretched Man that I am who shall deliver me from this Body of Sin And this my Adversary must come to have Experience of before he be approved of God to come with a Song as he saith in pag. 4. And this I do assure him as one who hath known the Terrors of the Lord for Sin That this Power will make him Quake and Tremble as easie a matter as he now thinks it to get to Heaven And as for his saying That Balaam 's Ass the Demoniacks Foelix Judas and the Devils might put in for a share is very Absurd For First As to Balaam's Ass God had not accomplished him with an Immortal Soul to subsist after this Life therefore not in a capacity to come in for a share and as to the rest it s also very Absurd especially the last viz. the Devils for although they had a sence of God's Power and were terrified thereby and made to Tremble yet it was not possible for them to have acceptance with God although believing and Trembling also are acts in his Chi●dren which are accepted of him And if my Adversary do not in this Life come to witness Fear and Trembling to accompany his believing he may also when it s too late know the Addition of Quaking and Trembling to his Believing and then his believing nor trembling will stand him in no more stead than the Devil 's did unto them And as for Judas Faelix and the rest mentioned by him in this case I say as the Apostle saith God's Will is that all men may know the Truth and be saved God said by the Mouth of the Prophet I have no pleasure in the Death of the Wicked but that the Wicked turn from his Evil Way and live So Judas and Faelix and the rest had a Day or Time of Visitation from God in which Time they might have turned to God and have had a share in his Salvation And Judas and all others who have no share in the Salvation of God their Destruction is of themselves and the Lord God is clear and just in giving them their Portion in the Lake of Endless Misery because as he saith in Proverbs Chap. 1. When I called ye would not answer when I stretched out my Hand no Man regarded they set at naught all my Counsel and would have none of my Reproof c. And Christ said unto the Rebellious Jews Ye will not come to me that ye might have Life And he said to Jerusalem I would have gathered thy Children together as a Hen gathereth her Chickens under her Wings but ye would not And God said unto the Rebellious Jews O Israel thou destroyest thy self but in me is thy Help Christ lighteth every one that cometh into the World and God doth require all men to believe and obey Christ casted Death for every man as saith the Apostle And the Apostle John saith He is the Propitiation for our Sins and not for our Sins only but also for the Sins of the whole World Judas partook of the Ministry and by Transgression he Fell. In opposition to Trembling he goes on quoting Luke 1. The Libeller pag. 4. That being delivered from the hands of our Enemies might serve God without fear in Righteousness and Holiness all the dayes of our Lives Reply Is it not to be delivered from our Enemies to be delivered from Sin which is a cause of Fear and Trembling And if my Adversary had been really awakened as in his Scrullious Welch Letter he saith he is he might have seen two States or Conditions couched in these words First A State of Sin and Bondage And Secondly A State of being delivered from Sin and Bondage And I hope he or at least all Moderate men will grant that the Words being delivered are words in the Present Tense So that Deliverance was there witnessed which was the cause of his Confidence of serving the Lord without fear yet I must tell him Not without fear of sinning against God but without fear of Hell Devils Men or Punishment but this is a state the Priests do deny that deliverance from sin is attainable in this Life and then the other state of serving God in Righteousness and Holiness cannot be expected And let my Adversary know that God will not call that Righteous and Holy that is mixed with Sin neither are any delivered from their Enemies until they be delivered from Sin and until then let the Libeller Fear and Dread coming before the Lords Presence with a Song lest the Lord our God turn his Song into Howling and his Gladness unto Sorrow and Trembling which he now puts afar off as his Arguments make manifest yet in one of them he boggles standing to his Argument Hear him And though till we have mortified our Affections and Lusts Libeller p. 4. we ought to work out our Salvation with Fear and Trembling yet after a most hearty and profound Repentance we humbly hope all our past Vnrighteousness is forgiven and our sins covered we may then doubtless come before his Presence with a Song Reply Behold Reader what Confusion and Contradiction is this for in his last words of the same page in opposition to me and my making Quaking and Trembling to be a state that all must pass through before they come to be in favour with God he tells of serving God without Fear And now in Contradiction to himself granting me my Argument he saith Till we have mortified our Affections and Lusts we ought to work out our Salvation with Fear and Trembling This looks as if the man then immediately had found himself smitten of God in his own Conscience but how this will agree with the Priests Faith That no mans sin can be wholly mortified in this Life I leave to the Impartial to judge His Confusion is He hath left no room for serving God in Holiness and Righteousness for its Protestant Doctrine that none can be freed from sin in this Life If so they must be mortifying their Lusts during Life and so by his own Argument must Fear and Tremble during Life and so hath no place for his coming before God's Presence with his Song Yet in Cotradiction to Protestant Faith and to his own as he hath stated it Libeller p. 5. he quotes Paul and