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A44802 One of Antichrists voluntiers defeated, and the true light vindicated. In answer to a book called Ignis fatuus, published by one R.I. Wherein he vindicates Edward Dod and Samuell Smith (of the county of Salop) in their lyes, folly, and wickedness, and hath added more of his own, with divers of his false doctrines, lyes and slanders, &c. brought to light, and reproved: As that the law of the spirit of life, is imperfect, and not fit to be a Christian rule, and also, humane nature may be taken for the regenerate part of man, and the soul, &c. And likewise calls idolatry, civillity, and heathernish complements courtesie. His vindication made voyd, and his weapons broken, and he taken captive, and left with E.D. and S.S. among the slime pits of Siddim near Sodom, with his Ignis fatuus. / By F.H., a witnesse to the perfect law, of the spirit of life. Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669. 1660 (1660) Wing H3175; ESTC R16812 30,660 33

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puft up in his fleshly mind I said unto E. D. that Christ was the seed of David according to the flesh and according to the Spirit the son of God And furthermore said and new saith that Christ is glorified in a spiritual body and incorruptible body and so by incorruptible body and spiritual body according to R. I. his dark understanding must also be understood humane nature and again humane nature may be understood of the soul O dark and fortish man what art thou like to confute who saith the humane nature may be taken for the soul and also it may be taken for flesh and also it may be taken for the regenerate part and thus like a blind man hath lost all aime thou runnest rambling up and down in every by-path but how should thou doe otherwise seeing thou hast denyed that Spirit that doth not erre and also would have all others to deny it and saith that none may lay claime to it although God hath promised it to give the spirit of truth to lead his people into all truth and if into all truth then out of all error but this doctrine of Christ comes too neer perfection for R. I to own which is a doctrine so offensive to him that he cannot endure to hear of it or that ought should be perfect and therefore he hath condemned the law of the spirit of life and saith it is imperfect as may be seen in the 55 page of his book and if flesh and the regenerate part of man and the soul may all be understood by humane nature then they are all one and then the soul is humane and earthly but the soul is spiritual and immortal and flesh and blood inherits not the kingdome of God and the regenerate part is that which is begotten and brought forth by the immortal word of life and that which is born of the spirit is spirit and so the ignorance of this man is made manifest and so R. I. may take his lye home unto himselfe as that F. H. denyes the reall body of Christ for F. H. hath said and now saith againe and that according to knowledge that Christ hath an incorruptible body and a glorious body and a spiritual body and in this body is Christ glorified with the Father and humane nature is no where taken for a spiritual and incorruptible body in the Scriptures account as this R. I. and his blind tribe doth imagine and yet the flesh of Christ is owned and the word that was made flesh the Saints know and doth feed on by which they are nourished up into everlasting life and so I say unto thee as I did to E. D. when thou writes again speak plainly if by humane nature thou intend a carnal body or the same flesh thou art on thou would devide the flesh of Christ from his Spirit would devide Christ Christ is not divided and thus he goes quarrelling on and heaps lye upon lye and saith that F. H. saith Christ hath no real body but his mystical body which thing is thy own and never affirmed by me either in word or writing and so repent of thy lyes and for shame call in thy Book least the judgements and plagues of God be multiplyed upon thee And further saith R. I. How do the Quakers condemn themselves when they so proudly boast themselves as the Pharisees did to be clear from sin who needs not Christs righteousness for their justification how then can they say that Christs righteousness is their justification when they are so righteous in their own eyes for Christ hath not promised to justifie any but those that confess their sins Answ. We have confest our sins and also departed from them and not like you feigned hypocrites who are confessing from year to year with your feigned lips and your hearts never turned to the Lord from iniquity and takes the name of Christs righteousnesse to be a cloak to cover your iniquity withall and we do not say that we have no need of Christs righteousnesse for our justification for if we should say so we should be lyars like thy self for we have need of Christs righteousnesse for he is our life who is called The Lord our righteousness he is our justifier and who art thou that condemns any but the false accuser of the brethren for Christs righteousnesse is our covering and we are not righteous in our own eyes but in the eyes of him who hath made us so and we never said that we have not sinned and so we have not made God a lyar as this vile slanderer would make men beleeve through his false aspertions for we say we were once darknesse but now are we light in the Lord and he who is our light and life is our justification and righteousnesse and his blood cleanseth from all sin and the power of God keepeth us that the evil one toucheth us not and yet all boasting is excluded And the further R. I. goes on the lower he sinks towards the bottomlesse pit and there we shall find him at last before we have done with his book and speaks out of thick darknesse like a man that never saw the Sun who hath altogether taken up his dwelling place in Deaths Region and as though that were the Land of his nativity and thou shalt see Reader by what ensues R. I. saith Though it be said He that commits sin is of the Devill not that the Devill can claime him for his own or that he is in his possession but he is captivated of the Devill and everpowered And for his proof he brings Peter was cryed up to be a Saint and at that same time when he was cryed up to be a Saint Christ called Peter a devill and that must be understood a Saint had sinned Answer He that is captivated by the Devil hath gone from the power of God and he that commits sin doth the Devils work and he may claime him for his workman and he that is overpowered is brought into captivity and he that carryes into captivity hath the Captive in his possession as it is written his servants you are to whom you obey and he that commits sin is the servant of sin And these black confused distinctions R. I. maketh to make people beleeve that they are Saints of God when they are the Devils captives and that they are in the possession of Christ who yet doe the works of the Devill who is an enemy to Christ and thou knows no more of a Saint then thou knows of a devill who saith that Peter at the same time that Christ called him a Saint called him a devil for thou must know that Matthew recorded many things it may be in one Chapter which was acted and done and spoken in many dayes and weeks for when Peter confessed Christ to be the Son of God he was in the faith and Christ said flesh and blood had not revealed that to him but at this time had spoken little
of his sufferings as it is written Mat. 16. 21 from that time forward began Jesus to shew unto his Disciples how that he must goe unto Jerusalem and suffer many things and be kil'd and rise again the third day So that it is manifest that here was distance of time and space betwixt Peters confession of Christ and of his rebuking of him however the unbelief was gotten up in Peter and he that had need to be taught came to be a rebuker of him who was his Teacher this was another state then the former but of these things R. I. is ignorant and let the Serpent feed upon dust for I desire to give him no other food And further R. I. saith Though Saints sin not Devil-like unto death yet if any man say he hath not sinned ofter the similitude of Adam's transgression he saith John is a lyar and the truth is not in him for when all is done the best men are men still and the best earth is earth ever and will bear nettles and brambles me and if these things were well considered by F. H. he would not say and E. D. for pleading for sin or Satan for we plead against those who say they have no sin Answer This R. I. is so in love with sin that by his arguments which he makes one would judge that he accounts it as necessary as his dayly food and these are strange kind of Saints that R. I would make at the best they are but still sinners and unsanctified but they that are called to be Saints who are begotten by God the father and preserved in Christ Jesus they are sanctified and made clean through the washing of Regeneration through the sanstsification of Gods holy Spirit which divelleth in them by which they have power to mortifie the deeds of the flesh and to overcome and to be made partakers of the promises but here lyes the difference in R. I. his account betwixt his Saints and his Sinners The sinners sinneth devil-like yet the Saints sin not devil-like I say they that sin are in one nature notwithstanding R. I. his blind distinctions for they that sin are liker the Devill then God and liker his image then Gods Image for Gods Image consisteth in righteousness and ture holinesse and the devils image consisteth in unrighteousness sin and unholiness And now Reader thou may judge whose Image R. I. his Saints bears and if thou be one that can plead against them who are born of God and sinneth not and who are cleansed from all sin by the blood of Christ then R. I. will rank thee with E. D. and himself in his Bead-row of Saints as he calls it And if any man say he hath not sinned after the simititude of Adam's transgression he is saith John a lyar Nay it is R. I. that saith it and not John and so R. I. is the lyar for the Scripture saith on this wise Rom. 5. 14. Death reigned from Adam to Moses even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adams transgression So that it is manifest that there were many that death reigned over and yet they sinned not after the similitude of Adams transgression But this R. I. will accuse every man with whom he hath a mind to quarrel and will not only tell lyes himselfe but publish false Doctrine but he will bring the Saints for his author and John saith not If any man say he hath no sin And thou that sayest when all is done the best men and the best earth will bear nestles brambles and tricks as I said to E. D. so I may to thee thou hast given thy verdict for the Devill and not for God and his Saints for They that are born of God sin not and them that are cleansed by the bloud of Christ from all sin and are clear in his sight and are kept by his immortall word which dwells in them that the evill one touch them not but hath overcome the wicked one and the best earth is that wherein righteousnesse dwells which R. I. is altogether a stranger too and that brings forth no bryars no brambles nettles nor pricks for that ground is curst so this man by his devillish Doctrine hath made the coming of Christ of none effect and the bloud of Christ of none effect and so have denyed the work of redemption to the best of men and deliverance to the Creature who hath travelled in paine This dreamer is far contrary to the Prophet Daniell who saw by the Spirit of Prophesie which this R. I. so deadly hates both in men and women that if it be not allowed of by such as he it must not speak nor they by ir This Prophet I say testified of the coming of the just one and of his work that he should make an end of sin and finish transgression and bring in ever-lasting righteousnesse but saith R. I. The best men are men still and the best Earth earthever and the best saints sinners though they sin not devil-like nettles and brambles and pricks they will all bring forth Now if this doctrine be true how is the soul raised out of death and where is the restauration of the creature from under the bondage of corruption and where is the redemption of the seed which is heir of the promise Nettles and brambles bryars cumbers the ground and choakes the seed and these things F. H. hath well considered and I see more and more that thou art a pleader for sin and Satan and imperfection for a spirit of errour for Images Pictures and Crosses for Cuffs Ribbonds and Lace for Nettles Brambles and bryars and art a man that doth lay claime to the utmost borders of the Devils Kingdome and a greater servant of his Master I have not met with long whose reward will be according to his works And the lye being the chief cognisance of his Master in which he greatly gloryes in he goes on and saith Another errour of the Quakers is they do not beleeve the Scriptures to be true because they deny them to be the word of God for if they beleeve what the Scriptures say of themselves and they say of themselves that they are the word of God and for his proofs he cites Mar. 7. 13. Rom. 10. 8. 2 Cor. 2. 17. 1 Pet. 1. 25. Answer The Scriptures we own to be true and whatsoever the Scriptures say of themselves that we own them to be to wit a declaration Scriptures of truth holy Scriptures the words of God of Christ and of his Apostles a Treatise And for his proofs I could wholly referre them to the Readento examine them himselfe and to discover the ignorance of this R. I. who tenders these Scriptures aforementioned for sufficient proof as that the Scriptures calls themselves the word of God as for Mark 7. 13. making the word of God of none effect by your tradition He doth not say of making the word of God the Scriptures of none effect neither
law written in the heart is imperfect and not fit to be a rule but to be ruled contrary to the Apostles doctrine and so this R. I. is tryed by his own infallible standard to be a deceiver who teaches contrary to that which he cals his law and testimony and the Law which is outward is the Law of the first Covenant which made nothing perfect but the bringing in of a better hope did by which we draw nigh unto God Heb. 7. 19. Therefore the Lord said by the mouth of the Prophet Behold the dayes come that I will make a new Covenant with the house of Israel not according to the Covenant I made with you when I brought them out of the Land of Egypt when I was as a husband into them which Covenant they brake but I will write my Law in their hearts and put my spirit in their inward parts I will be to them a God and they shall be unto me a people Jer. 31. 33. Heb. 8. 9 10. Now this blind man who gropes as at noon day saith This is imperfect which is written in the heart and so faulty with him and therefore to be ruled over and the other which is outward is perfect and faultlesse and so ought to be a Rule but saith the Apostle contrary to R. I. If the first Covenant had been faultlesse there had been no place for the second which second the Apostle saith is a better Covenant and stands upon better promises but yet saith R. I. this is not the rule not fit to be a rule And furthermore the Apostle said as many as are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God and this was their rule and the Law of the Spirit of life made the Apostle free from the law of sin and death and was the new creatures rule by which they were led into all truth and as many as did walk in it out of all sin But nay saith R. I. It is not sit to be a rule for this is imperfect and is that thing to be ruled and for his proof brings Psal. 17. 4. By the word of thy lips I have kept me from the path of the destroyer and how doth this prove that the Law in the heart is to be ruled Thou ignorant man who litters forth nothing but deceit and error and so the Scriptures declares against thee for they say The Law of the Lord is perfect converting the soul The Commandement of the Lord is pure enlightening the eyes Psal 19. 7 8. For the Commandement is a Lamp and the law is light Prov. 6. 23. And the Commands of the New Covenant are spirituall and not carnall and they are perfect and fit to be a rule to guide all them that beleeve in a perfect way and not as this R. I. saith unfit to be a Rule because of their imperfection and would in his blind distinctions cast a mist before peoples eyes and all may judge not only of this R. I. his mistake but of his wilfull impudence in preferring that which is visible and outward and may be seen which was given forth in time viz. the Commands outward and the letter outward above the Law of the Spirit of Life which is invisible spirituall and eternall And as I said to S. S. So I may say to thee Leane souls are they like to be who receives such damnable Doctrine as this for Articles of Faith But however Reader thou may take notice of R. I. in his Epistle to the Reader he saith The Quakers money is counterfeit coyne which he hath nailed on the Market post and instead thereof hath tendered other money and that thou may see what kind of other money the Priests is and what Image it hears by the Principles here discovered which is altogether Tin and drosse and Reprobate Silver which will be received by none but them whom the God of this world ha●h blinded the eyes of that they should not see the things that belongs unto their peace And Edward Dodd being sensible that he all his stuffe or he and all his arguments was carried Captive and become a booty and a prey he is glad that any will step in and rescue him and flatters R. I. and saith I am engaged to you to imbrace you as a precious friend that of so weake principles as mine have raised so perfect a structure so absolute rationall and demonstrative that more need not to be done Answ. R. I. his Vindication hath not redeemed E. D. his principles at all but rather hath laboured in vain and spent his strength for naught and hath brought forth such a birth as sober men will blush at made up of Ignorance Blasphemy Derision and lyes which they that have the lest moderation will abhorre and detest And the Principles of E. D. and R. I. are not only weak and feeble but wicked and impious as is manifest in what hath been declared And the structure that R. I. hath made is but builded with untempered Morter lyes falshood errour false Doctrine which the stormy wind of the Lord will Rent and scatter and confound and exalt his Truth above it all But E. D. saith What can be said to reduce such a people I know not since so many convincing arguments cannot prevaile Alass poor men whether would you reduce us or bring us back to the slime pits of Sodome where E. D. fell with his stuffe or turn us back again to Images Pictures and Crosses to Mass-houses Hirelings and Tythes to Lace Ribons and Cuffes which both E. D. and R. I. hath strongly pleaded for as faithfull Servants to their Master who would not have him loose a foot of his Territories however E. D. hath resolved to continue one in life and death with R. I. who hath shaken hands with the Prince of darknesse and made a Covenant with death which must be broken and though S. S. E. D. R. I. joyne hand in hand yet the wicked shall not goe unpunished for every one shall receive a reward according to their works And so I have done with R. I. his Book called Ignis fatu●● whose arguments false doctrines errours and lies are dissolved into nothing his Vindication made voyd his ignorance made manifest his false Doctrines brought to light and reproved by the word of truth Only I shall returne him a few of his lyes back again for him to review the second time and repent of them and remember the sentence for all Lyars is The Lake that burneth Rev. 22. 15. First That their worship differs not in whole nor in part in matter nor in manner from the Churches in the Primitive times Secondly According to the Scriptures their whole worship is framed Thirdly That Jezabel was never more madder against the Prophets then these Quakers are against Christs Ministers Fourthly The Quakers contemn Magistracy infect the Common-wealth with ●action Fifthly That the Quakers burnt some houses at Oxford Sixthly That Timothy Titus were setled in a Parochial way in their quarters Seventhly That F. H. complains of the darkness of the Sun when the fault is in his own eys Eightly The Quakers deny honour to Superiors to whom it is due and so blaspheme the name of God and his doctrine Ninthly F. H. would never have cryed out of deceit but a purpose to deceive the more Tenthly That the Quakers bid open defiance to the worship of God Eleventhly That I. N. did say That he was as just and holy and good as God Twelfthly That F. H. said That Christ Jesus was not glorified in Heaven with a real body Thirteenthly Humane nature is taken for the regenerate part of man and the soul Fourteenthly That the best men though regenerate bears Nettles Brambles and Pricks Fifteenthly There is an inward law called the law of the Spirit of life which is imperfect and not fit to beare rule but to be ruled Sixteenthly And the Scriptures leads us to the Spirit and enclines our hearts to the obedience of the rule Seventeenthly And F. H. preferreth Ignis Fatuus before the clear light of Gods word Eighteenthly lastly when he hath spoken all these lies publish'd them in Print to the world he blasphemously saith in his Epistle to the Reader Have not so much regard to the authority of the Writer as the truth of the matter written by him who was moved of the Lord thus to declare So all these lyes with many more and all these damnable Doctrines which he hath uttered forth against the truth these things he would fasten upon the Lords motion and so make him the Author of iniquity and a cloak for his ungodly speeches against them who love the truth as it is in Jesus who hath suffered many reproaches for its sake and hath been killed all the day long by this Generation amongst which R. I. is who hath bent his tongue to mischief and his lips to utter forth deceit and as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses so hath this R. I. resisted the truth being a man of a corrupt mind and concerning the faith reprobate but he shall not proceed much further for in what he hath written his folly will be manifest unto all men and them that fear the Lord will depart out of his foot-steps which leads to the chambers of death and from those dark paths in which R. I. treadeth which leadeth into utter destruction Westmorland the 15. of the 4. month 1660. THE END
doth he say you make the Scriptures which is the word of none effect by your Traditions and as for Rom. 10. 8. The word is nigh thee in thy mouth and in thy heart And this is the word of faith which we preach Here the Apostle saith the word is nigh thee in thy heart but he doth not say the Scriptures is nigh thee in thy heart which is the word of God And 2 Cor. 2. 17. For we are not as many which corrupt the word of God he doth not say we are not as many that corrupt the Scriptures which are the word of God or the word of God which is the Scriptures And as for 1 Pet. 1. 25. But the word of the Lord endures for ever and this is the word which by the Gospel is preached unto you he doth not say the Scriptures endures for ever or this is the word the Scriptures which by the Gospell is preached unto you And as for 1 Thes 4. 15. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord that we which are alive and remaine unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep He did not say this we say unto you by the Scriptures for there was not such a Scripture written before and therefore we say this unto you by the Word of the Lord And what a foolish man is this to assert his own imaginations and then imagins the Scriptures will prove it and what an improper speech were this to call twenty thousand Sentences one word and it is called a declaration and what a declaration would that be which consisted but of one word But enough of this hath been published before concerning this perticular by divers hands so I shall be brief However R. I. doubts his proof allready that it will not satisfie F. H. and therefore he thought good to make this conclusion upon him That he does not believe the Scriptures at all and though F. H. say that these Scriptures are nothing at all to prove that thing to deny his imaginations is not to deny the Scripture But F. H. beleeves what the Scriptures saith of themselves and doth not deny the Scriptures at all but R. I. his lye and also his false conclusion And further saith R. I. The Scripture was delivered to the Church in writing that it might be an infallible standard ●f true doctrine and a determiner of controversies and the Saints Rule of knowing God and living to him Answer Reader take notice here is no roome for the Spirit at all the Scriptures and writings have taken up the room of it in R. I. his account for it hath lost its office if his doctrine be true the letrer is become the infallible judg and standard to try doctrine and a determiner of all controversies and of the Saints rule of knowing God and living to him and indeed is become all in this mans account then what doth R. I. bring Aesops Fables Ovids fictions Plato's and Diogenes stories in this controversie to joyn with this infallible rule because he hath the Scriptures so high to be a tryer of doctrines without the Spirit doubtles is the cause here is no mention made of it and so he shall be judged by his rule in the 42 page take his Exposition upon the words of Joel I will pour out of my Spirit upon sons and daughters and they shall prophesie This is not meant of a ghostly power but of an extraordinary measure of enlightening grace Ignorant man is not Ghostly power of spirituall power an extraordinary measure of enlightning grace and was it not as spiritual power and an extraordinary light the Prophets prophesied by But it is this mans meaning that must be the standard when all comes to all and the determiner of cases and he speaks contrary unto his own rule as may be seen through his whole book who hath either added to the Scriptures or perverted them or otherwise given his false interpretations or villified them in calling them the True Cards and so though he extolled them in words he denyes them in practice The Jews tryed Christs doctrine by the Scriptures and judged him a blasphemer and a breaker of the Law and the Apostles seditious and so though a man have the Scripture and have not the Spirit it is all as a sealed book wherein such unlearned men as this R. I. is cannot read and therefore he saith in his 55 page That it is a great fault in us because we say the Law of the Spirit of life is the Rule so like him will not say it is imperfect as he doth so saith R. I. it is not fit to be a rule so blasphemously he detracts from the authority and power of the Spirit and like Antichrist and his Ministers sets the letter above it cals it living an infallible standard and saith the Scripture inclines the heart unto obedience and like a drunken man this R. I. reels up and down and contradicts himself Before he said The law of the Spirit chiefly gave power to conforme to the Rule and within four lines contradicts himself and saith The Scriptures inclines our hearts to the obedience of the Rule and the Scriptures it self hath caused us to know it as we have it from the Church it is a probable aid and yet giveth but a confused beliefe with a light impression Answ. It is probable enough indeed that thy faith is confused the faith of your church that makes thee utter forth all this confused heap but in what hath been said the spirit of this man and his doctrines will be manifest to all whose eyes God hath opened and so will depart out of his paths and not give heed to his fabulous stories It is true saith R. I. There is an inward law written in our hearts called the law of the Spirit of life Rom. 8. 2. And there is the outward Law written in the Scriptures Now the outward and externall law is properly the Rule of a christian life and not the inward and internall law for the outward law is perfect in that it declares in what is the will of God and in what it is not but the inward law received and written on the heart is imperfect and therefore unfit to be our rule the law within is that thing that is to be ruled Psal. 17. 4. The outward law therefore is the Rule Answer This man would set the Sun by his diall as it might be said although he confess in the very same page that the Law of the Spirit of life giveth power to the creature yet now it is become imperfect not fit to be a rule this man like one unlearned sets the Law which was written in Tables of stone which the Apostle calls the Ministration of condemnation and was glorious this he sets above the Ministration of the Spirit of life which the Apostle saith is much more glorious but nay saith R. I. The