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A35903 A dialogue between Timothy and Titus about the articles and some of the canons of the Church of England wherein super-conformity is censured and moderation recommended : with a serious perswasive to all the inferiour clergy of that Church / by one that heartily wisheth union amongst Protestants. One that heartily wisheth union amongst Protestants. 1689 (1689) Wing D1336; ESTC R734 65,452 44

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lie_v chancellor_n or_o commissary_n can_v represent_v nor_o any_o but_o such_o as_o be_v in_o holy_a order_n as_o bishop_n priest_n etc._n etc._n and_o as_o the_o constitution_n of_o our_o church_n be_v i_o think_v bishop_n only_o who_o be_v in_o chief_a authority_n can_v excommunicate_v and_o be_v the_o fit_a judge_n when_o and_o where_o that_o a_o commissary_n sentence_n be_v to_o be_v pass_v though_o our_o chancellor_n in_o our_o ordinary_a court_n take_v upon_o they_o to_o be_v judge_n and_o to_o direct_v and_o command_v the_o priesthood_n in_o this_o case_n which_o to_o allow_v be_v neither_o better_a nor_o worse_o then_o to_o give_v the_o government_n of_o our_o church_n into_o lay-hand_n a_o thing_n which_o we_o decry_v in_o the_o presbyterian_o 2._o for_o those_o that_o be_v liable_a to_o this_o censure_n they_o must_v be_v more_o than_o ordinary_a criminal_n this_o censure_n be_v not_o to_o pass_v upon_o common_a and_o trivial_a occasion_n that_o make_v it_o contemptible_a and_o i_o find_v there_o be_v three_o sort_n of_o man_n excommunicable_a by_o scripture_n rule_n first_o such_o as_o pervert_v the_o sound_a doctrine_n of_o truth_n as_o do_v hymeneus_n and_o alexander_n 1_o tim._n 1._o 20._o second_o such_o as_o be_v defile_v with_o notorious_a wickedness_n as_o the_o incestuous_a person_n at_o corinth_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 1_o 5._o three_o such_o as_o obstinate_o persist_v in_o their_o crime_n and_o offence_n after_o a_o double_a admonition_n or_o treble_a rather_o private_o by_o himself_o after_o that_o before_o two_o or_o three_o and_o if_o that_o fail_v then_o open_o before_o the_o church_n and_o if_o he_o will_v not_o hear_v the_o church_n then_o let_v he_o be_v to_o thou_o as_o a_o heathen_a man_n or_o a_o publican_n matth._n 18.15_o 16_o 17._o where_o our_o saviour_n plain_o teach_v we_o that_o as_o this_o must_v be_v the_o last_o remedy_n so_o