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A77749	Doctor Chamberlain visited with a bunch of his own grapes, gathered out of his own packet of letters: to know whether my answer to his question gave satisfaction, and that by his reply to partake of those rare gifts of the spirit, which he proffered to publish in Black-fryers Church. Also an answer to Dr Chamberlains reply, concerning sprinkling the baptized. / By Thomas Bakewel.	Bakewell, Thomas, b. 1618 or 19.	1650 (1650)	Wing B532; Thomason E601_4; ESTC R206402	21,189	30

Doctor although the Death of Christ and his Burial be called Baptismes Luk. 12.50 and washing the body when dead be called Baptisme 1 Cor. 15.29 This cup saith Christ ye shall drink of we shall be baptized with those Baptismes Mat. 20.23 But I hope Mr Doctor you will not kill your Disciples and wash their bodies and bury them this is something harsh it is well it is but one Doctors Opinion I thought I had cleared this upon Page 7 8. of the Dippers Plunged But you ask If Infants can behold the sign and make that use of it will they not rather shut their eyes Ans First All are not Infants some may be converted from the Turkes and Iewes to the Christian Faith that are of full age and these having their senses they ought to use them although Infants through the defect of nature cannot make use of the sign nor of the words of Institution yet it is damnable for them of full age to stop their eares like the deafe Adder at the Word of God see Prov. 28.9 Psa 58.4 Mat. 13.15 Revel 2.7 Again the words of institution are to be spoken in the act of baptizing Baptizing them in the Name of the Father Son and Holy Ghost Mat 28.19 Now for a man or woman to be under water all that while it may drown them and he that shall place these words either before or after it is his own invention and none of Christs institution But you harpe upon this string to exclude Infants saying Those that are baptized according to the Scriptures doe both heare and know them before they are plunged although pronouncing the words do not the worke but the obedience of beeing baptized in the Name of the Lord. It seemes by these words that you hold a baptizing in the Name of the Lord before the outward Forme of baptizing by water flat against the Scripture see Act. 10.48 19.3 5. And Iohn saith I baptize with water and he that comes after me baptizeth with the Holy Ghost Mat. 3.11 And saith he I baptize with water unto Repentance that is in order to Repentance in the same Text And all that were baptized with water were not before baptized with the Holy Ghost as Simon Magus Demas and others This designe is but to exclude Infants but I wave it You come to my third Argument for Sprinkling the baptized because that many were baptized in their Houses where Plunging could not be as Paul and Cornelius and others Act. 9.17.18.10.22.27.48 To this you say that I do ill to Father so many untruths in print upon the Scriptures the Scriptures say not that Paul was baptized in the house but that Ananias entred into the house and putting his hands on Him and immediately he arose and was baptized But are you a Teacher in Israel and know not this Can you teach others and not teach your selfe Did Ananias enter into the house where Paul was and lay His Hand upon him and immediately he was baptized What say you to this word Mr Doctor immediately or at the twinkling of an eye or at the very same instant of time he was baptized I think the subtillest Plunger amongst you cannot finde time out of that word immediately for Paul to goe out to bee plunged in some Pond or River and besides Paul was faln upon the earth and was three days without sight and did neither eat nor drink Act. 9.4 9. Now Mr Doctor what do you think of this man was he able to goe out You shewe your selfe a very unskilfull Doctor if you say Yea deserving to be cast out of the Colledg for a Novice What neither eat nor drink for three dayes together and in this condition you would have him plunged into a river Well it is a mercy that wee have other Doctors of better Judgement that wee may not depend upon such Novices But you say Paul was not to sit still to be sprinkled but saith the Text rise up why tarryest thou arise and be baptized Act. 22.16 But where is your Syllogism Mr Doctor because hee being faln on the earth and Ananias hastens him to arise and bee baptized therefore hee went out to some River with his Hands upon him and all this in the twinkling of an eye Well Sir consider and lay to heart who it is that fathers untruths upon the Scriptures And for Cornelius and others the Text misquoted which should be Act. 10.22 23 27 48. where it is said That Cornelius being warned of God by an Angel to send for thee meaning Peter to come into his house and to heare words of thee Then called he them in and he went in and found many that were come together and he commanded them to be baptized Now Mr Doctor what will you do to evade this truth I have proved that they came into the house of Cornelius but a Conclave of plunging Doctors cannot shew me that they went out to be plunged but you say Peter reasoned the business and then said Who can forbid water he commanded them to be baptized but it is not said where or when so then you grant that here is a Command to baptize being in the house and no Command to go out then which is the way to fulfil the Command but to baptize them where they were and that is in the house of Cornelius but then you say If this was done with water as is expressed the Apostles must carry it with them in Aquavitae bottles or Rose-water-bottles to dash them in the face as soon as they had been taken confessing of Christ But Sir how will you make it out that Cornelius had no vessels in his house for water till Peter came with his Aquavitae bottle or Strong-water-bottle we look for proof Mr Doctor else you had as good say nothing But all your hopes is of the Jaylor whom you suppose is the most likely to be plunged for you suppose that I have not read the 30 verse of the 16 Chapter of the Acts for there it is said And brought them out but I demand to know out of what for it is said vers 32. They spake unto him the Word of the Lord And in the same hour of the night he took them and washed their stripes and was baptized he and all his straightway vers 33. And when he had brought them into his House he set meat before them vers 34. And the Magistrates sent to the keeper of the prison to let them go and they refused Therefore that first out of ver 30. was but out of one room into another and the keepers house was in the prison so that from first to last the Apostles were not out of the prison till the last verse then indeed they went out of the prison and entered into the house of Lydia Now Mr Doctor who speaks contrary to the Text then you say the blood of Paul and Silas Absurdities must not be put upon the Scriptures Here you would say something although you

see an error in the printing naming the 48 verse when as there is but 40 in the Chapter yet from this you say that my partiallity appears in not asking the same questions about washing Paul and Silas as about the Baptism of the Jaylor and his houshold as what vessel had they and who fetched the water and how often emptied Did Paul stand in the vessel How many times went he in or was he in at all But here I see that you may mistake or the Printer for you mentioning Paul when I speak of Peter only this I say Who fetched all that water the same hour of the nigh for the Jaylor and his houshold they being still in prison and at midnight and all that speaking the Word of the Lord and washing their stripes was done the same hour being unpossible if they had gone out to be plunged with Lanthorns and Torches and all little enough to escape drownding but I say all the rest is spoken of Peter baptizing 3000 persons together after his Sermon Acts 2.41 Now you do wisely to wave this Text being no ways able to evade it in your next I pray you speak your mind on that Text and you shall hear further from me also you should have made Answers to those Queries but it seems you could not Then you come to my fourth Argument which is this The Sacraments must be administred where the Word is preached because preach and baptize are put together Mat. 28.19 And many were baptized in their houses immediately after Jesus Christ was preached unto them as Cornelius and others Acts 10. and 2.41 To this you say the Word is Discipline or make Disciples baptizing them But I say the same Commission by Mark is Go ye 〈◊〉 to all the world and preach the Gospel Mark 16.15 He ordain'd twelve that they should be with him and that he might fend them forth to preach Mark 3.14 Now set these Scriptures together and the result will be to make Disciples by preaching this one truth if well observed would confound all the Sectaries Convincticles who admit members on other terms then by preaching the Gospel by a private Confederacy among themselves to admit the rich on easie terms and hold the poor to hard terms yea to admit for great sums of money so did not the Apostles But you go on denying my Argument saying Both Iohn the Baptist and Christ and his Disciples went up and down preaching in the Wilderness and about Galilee and in a Mountain and in a Charriot but they baptized in Jordan in Aenon c. To this I answer All those were travelling as you say now their case and ours is not the same as for example the Lord saith He that is eight days old let him be circumcised Gen. 17.12 But the case was not so when they were travelling in the Wilderness yea it was laid aside all that time Iosh 5.7 but they must not do so in Canaan Now I am speaking of Canaan and not of the Wilderness and also of those Ministers who are confin'd to a place and charged with one Flock and if you can shew me that such do preach in one place and baptize in another you say something if not you must not imitate our fixed Ministers for a subsistance only when your judgment is for those universal Ministers but rather a way to other parts having but one coat no chrip nor money in your purse and eat what is set before you and in this condition carry no Aquavitae bottles nor Rose-water-bottles with you Hapy is he that condemneth not himself in the thing that he alloweth He that doubteth is damned if he eat because he eateth not of faith for whatsoever is not of faith is sin Rom. 14.22 23. Do not trouble the fixed Churches of Canaan to bring them back again into the Wilderness such Ministers are not for the welfare of Sion I come to my fifth Argument shewing the inconveniences of Plunging If a man stand on the bank to plunge the baptized under water in so doing he may break his neck if the water be shallow and drownd him if it be deep and if one stand in the water to save him there must be two to baptize one man flat against all examples in the Scriptures To all this you say that I sprinkle my self with holy water and rest in a contented ignorance Now for your censure I way it not it is but one Doctors opinion but yet I will shew you my ground for this Argument You will grant that the Ministers of the Gospel have only a right to administer the Sacrament of Baptism which you will confine to plunging and not sprinkling therefore you say they must plunge them into the water they may not go into the water themselves but the Minister must plunge them in or else he doth but half his duty and God will not accept any work that is done by partiallity 1 Tim. 5.21 God will make those Priests contemptible which are partial in his Law Mal. 2.9 Are you not partial in your selves and are become Judges of evil thoughts Iam. 2.4 Therefore either leave pleading for plunging or else do as you plead for shame and stand on the bank and plunge them in as they fling a dog into a ducking Pond he must not wade in the Minister must plunge him in But I follow you to the sixth Argument against plunging the baptized if naked it is against modesty 1 Cor. 14.4 The Spouse of Christ must be comely as Ierusalem Cant. 1.5 And it is a temptation David was tempted by seeing a naked woman washing her self 2 Sam. 1.2 4. And Christ hath taught us to say Lead us not into temptation Mat. 6. Neither may they have garments for that use consecrated as Aarons breeches Exod. 28.42 43. This would be as bad as the Prelates Surpless and for women to wear them being mans apparel it were an abomination to the Lord Deut. 22.5 Nor in their wearing clothes The Jaylor feasted the Apostles straightway Act. 16.34 Neither do we read that they shifted themselves before nor after nor that they sate dung wet at meat with them therefore to avoyd all these Absurdities it must be granted that they in Scripture were all sprinkled with water and not plunged under water To this you say What will I think of Circumcision but what you mean by it I know not unless you mean that they were circumcised naked if this be your meaning where is your proof All is not gold that glisters with him that hath his touch stone always by him but suppose you think that they circumcised them naked yet the case is far different between the Jews and Christians First They circumcised only males but females are also baptized Acts 8.12 Secondly They circumcised privately but we baptize publickly Thirdly The father of the child did circumcise but the Minister must baptize so that you see this will not help you at all And it seems you are sensible of