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A17988 The life of Bernard Gilpin a man most holy and renowned among the northerne English. Faithfully written by the Right Reverend Father in God George Carleton Lord Bishop of Chichester, and published for the sake of his common auditors, by whom it was long since earnestly desired.; Vita Bernardi Gilpini. English Carleton, George, 1559-1628.; Freake, William. 1629 (1629) STC 4647; ESTC S125899 43,782 70

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in God onely therefore he onely is to bee prayed vnto That distinction touching Invocation and Advocation that albeit you allow not the Invocation of Saints at the least you allow their advocation is frivolous because as those men robb Christ of his honour who seeke another mediator so these are no lesse injurious to Christ who seeke another 〈◊〉 because we haue Christ an Advocate with the Father 1 Iob. 2 ● and Esai 63 he affirmeth that Abraham knoweth vs not Truely I assure my selfe that Abraham the father of the faithfull is no lesse a Saint then any other of the Saints in heaven You say you beleeue the Communion of Saints which we also doe all of vs beleeue but you inferre thereupon that you vnderstand not how there can be a Communion of Saints if the Saints departed doe not pray for vs and we call vpon them for assistance But the Church of Christ vnderstandeth the Communion of Saints farre otherwise For in the vsuall phrase of Scripture Saints are not vnderstood to be those that are departed and whose soules are in heauen but those who are living here on the earth Nor shall you almost thorough the whole Scripture of the Old and new Testament find the name of Saint giuen to any man but that thereby is vnderstood a Saint living heere on the earth Yea sometimes the Scripture speaketh more expressely as in Psal. 16. 3 to the Saints which are on the earth all my delight is in them If any man ever had or could haue a Communion with the Saints in heaven surely Dauid had it But he expoundeth the communion wherewith he was acquainted that is the communion of Saints on earth So Saint Iohn expoundeth this poynt 1 Ioh 1 3. What we have seene and known that declare we vnto you that yee also may have communion with vs and that our communion may be with God and with his son Iesus Christ. First all the Church of Christ haue cōmunion with the Apostolick Church that you may haue cōmunion with vs Secondly this communion of Saints shall consist in the preaching of the word and in the participation of diverse gifts for the edification of the Church in publicke and private prayers Thirdly but in powering out of our prayers we haue communion with the Father the Sonne or with the Father by the Sonne Heere is no mention at all no respect had to the Saints departed This communion according to the words of holy Scripture extendeth no further then to the Church on earth The Saints departed are not called in Scripture simply Saints but the Congregation of the first borne in heauen and the spirits of iust and perfect men Heb 12. 23. After this life we shall haue communion with them but as for those who require this communion with them in this life let them either product from Scripture what they say or let them heare that sentence of our blessed Lord In vaine doe ye worship me teaching for doctrines the traditions of men Math 15 9. I confesse that if you haue respect to the vse of this our age or some former ones the deceased are called Saints but it is not the custome of this or that age but the rule of the holy Scripture that is propounded for our imitation But what doe we contending about this points Those men who stand so hard for Invocation of Saints shall grant it vs to be a thing indifferent for indeed it is the safest way to goe to the fountaine of mercy it selfe and let the streames alone Nor suffer those men to perswade you who say that they detract nothing from God by detracting their prayers to the Saints For no man can detract from God more then he who transferreth the worship due to God alone vnto the creature For invocation is a part of divine worship and this worship hee communicateth to no creature who will not give his glory to another As for your Arguments touching Images and fasting which point of fasting God forbid that either I or any one should deny yea rather we exhort all persons to the practise of it onely we desire to haue the superstition wicked opinions remooved together with those other Arguments touching Relicks and Exorcismes in casting out vncleane spirits forsooth which thing when it leadeth to Idolatry is the signe of a false Prophet Deut 13. Although answer might be made to all these with much ease yet because I how want leisure as being over leaden with imployments in regard that I am destitute of a Curate at this time and have a very large Parish to visite and also my body is weak and subject to faint with wearinesse being worne out with paynes taking therefore in all these respectes I haue thought it fitting to deferre mine answere to these points vntill another time If you be vnwilling to come to Houghton vpon Sunday next because you will not be an offence to my Parishioner● in which case you cannot blame me if I appeare very carefull of my Parishioners in regard of the great charge laid vpon me for it is apparant in the times of the Prophets and in all succeeding ages since that the vulgar people haue been too too pro●e to superstition and a micheife doth increase easily and creep further in one day then good lessons in a whole moneth therfore sundry excepted vnlesse you will come vp into the Quire which in my judgement you ought not to refuse if you come straightwayes after the Sabboth day is ended and depart about Saterday noone you shall bee heartily welcome therefore that excuse which you pretend ought not to retarde your accesse And although your last conclusion doe as I told you already take away all hope and confidence from a man who shall conferre with you yet I will not cease to hope better things touching your conversion then you seeme to hope of your selfe Saint Paul had once a firme resolution to dye a Pharisy and a persecuter of Christians but God had reserved for him the treasure of power and mercy to the end that he might ordayne him to Preach that glorious namee which he had formerly persecuted I commend you to the good●es of the Almightie God which is able by the spirit of knowledge to leade you into all truth Fare ye well From Honghton the 14. of October 1580. Your loving Vncle BERNARD GILPIN SO long as Bishop Pilkinton lived Mr. Gilpin had a most kind friend of him after whose decease Richard Bar●es succeeded in the Bishopricke This man was somewhat offended with Mr. Gilpin And hereby hangeth a story which I must fetch somewhat farre Mr. Gilpin was accustomed sometimes to ride to Oxford especially in his younger time when he was able to indure travell Now it happened vpon a time as he was vpon his way towards Oxford that he espyed by the way side a youth one while walking and another while running Mr. Gilpin demanded of him who he was whence he came and whither he was going