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read_v say_v s._n augustine_n 1._o augustine_n in_o verbis_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la evangeliuâ_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o sensu_fw-la hicroââm_fw-la in_o galat._n c._n 1._o the_o word_n be_v not_o the_o gospel_n but_o the_o sense_n of_o scripture_n be_v the_o gospel_n say_v s._n hierome_n so_o i_o 119_o reply_v pag._n 119_o may_v say_v the_o form_n of_o word_n be_v not_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n but_o the_o thing_n signify_v by_o those_o word_n else_o the_o church_n believe_v not_o these_o two_o article_n until_o this_o form_n of_o word_n be_v ibidem_fw-la be_v quasi_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la ijs_fw-la quae_fw-la legimus_fw-la aliqua_fw-la etiam_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la legimus_fw-la intelligamus_fw-la aug._n ibidem_fw-la use_v the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v the_o father_n be_v unborn_a as_o for_o the_o article_n of_o faith_n signify_v by_o these_o word_n the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v s._n augustine_n proove_v it_o out_o of_o the_o 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the_o like_a he_o say_v 174._o say_v etiasi_fw-la vocabula_fw-la ista_fw-la ibi_fw-la non_fw-la inveniuntur_fw-la fieri_fw-la potest_fw-la ut_fw-la illud_fw-la inveniamus_fw-la cvi_fw-la haec_fw-la vocabula_fw-la rectè_fw-la adhibita_fw-la indicentur_fw-la aug._n epist_n 174._o although_o those_o word_n be_v not_o find_v in_o scripture_n yet_o we_o may_v find_v that_o which_o be_v intend_v by_o those_o word_n this_o than_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o s._n augustine_n that_o the_o doctrine_n signify_v by_o those_o word_n be_v write_v in_o other_o word_n although_o those_o word_n themselves_o be_v not_o write_v and_o as_o s._n augustine_n answer_v pascentius_n the_o arian_n so_o i_o may_v answer_v the_o jesuite_n ibidem_fw-la jesuite_n quid_fw-la contentiosius_fw-la est_fw-la quam_fw-la ubi_fw-la de_fw-la re_fw-la constat_fw-la certare_fw-la de_fw-la nomine_fw-la aug._n ibidem_fw-la what_o be_v more_o contentious_a then_o to_o strive_v about_o word_n when_o the_o thing_n mean_v by_o they_o 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i_o say_v or_o as_o you_o say_v this_o point_n of_o fact_n may_v well_o be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o point_n of_o faith_n &_o the_o doctrine_n may_v be_v write_v though_o reply_n reply_n the_o practice_n be_v not_o write_v howsoever_o we_o grant_v it_o that_o the_o practice_n be_v not_o write_v neither_o be_v the_o doctrine_n write_v express_o and_o evident_o that_o the_o baptise_a by_o heretic_n shall_v not_o be_v rebaptise_v yet_o s._n augustine_n from_o most_o certain_a principle_n and_o by_o most_o evident_a consequence_n out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n conclude_v the_o doctrine_n of_o this_o point_n the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n herein_o be_v according_a unto_o the_o truth_n of_o scripture_n s._n augustinâ_n may_v very_o well_o oppose_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n against_o the_o heretic_n &_o tell_v he_o âbidem_fw-la he_o aug._n âbidem_fw-la thou_o must_v believe_v the_o church_n which_o if_o thou_o refuse_v to_o do_v thou_o do_v not_o oppose_v thyself_o against_o i_o or_o against_o man_n but_o reply_n reply_n even_o against_o our_o saviour_n himself_o to_o thy_o everlasting_a damnation_n the_o baptism_n of_o child_n of_o which_o s._n augustine_n write_v in_o the_o next_o testimony_n be_v no_o unwritten_a doctrine_n but_o a_o point_n establish_v likewise_o both_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o of_o the_o church_n and_o s._n augustine_n do_v well_o to_o declare_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o of_o the_o church_n in_o this_o point_n say_n apost_n say_n aug._n serm_n 14._o de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n such_o force_n have_v the_o authority_n reply_n reply_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o fix_a rule_n of_o truth_n that_o be_v the_o scripture_n against_o this_o bulwark_n against_o this_o impregnable_a wall_n who_o so_o advance_v himself_o he_o shall_v be_v break_v and_o burst_v in_o piece_n as_o this_o be_v most_o true_o affirm_v by_o s._n augustine_n so_o it_o be_v as_o impertinent_o allege_v by_o the_o 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scripture_n and_o the_o father_n and_o find_v this_o for_o truth_n that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n teach_v no_o unwritten_a tradition_n if_o they_o do_v so_o what_o be_v this_o to_o the_o purpose_n unless_o the_o jesuite_n can_v prove_v that_o the_o unwritten_a tradition_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v the_o same_o which_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n deliver_v they_o pretend_v that_o they_o be_v so_o so_o they_o do_v in_o their_o miracle_n which_o be_v but_o cozen_v and_o juggle_a trick_n of_o leaguer_n de_fw-fr main_a so_o they_o do_v in_o their_o relic_n which_o be_v but_o grand_a imposture_n as_o the_o angel_n gabriels_n feather_n our_o lady_n smock_n s._n peter_n chain_n and_o the_o like_a these_o i_o believe_v be_v as_o true_a relic_n from_o they_o as_o their_o tradition_n be_v the_o same_o which_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n teach_v and_o as_o they_o be_v so_o be_v their_o authority_n which_o be_v the_o subject_n of_o his_o next_o section_n wherein_o we_o be_v to_o examine_v sect_n iii_o whether_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o write_a word_n 1._o none_o but_o a_o non_fw-la ens_fw-la will_v say_v that_o a_o non_fw-fr ens_fw-la can_v be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o write_a word_n when_o as_o bellarmine_n confess_v that_o â_o that_o bellarm._n de_fw-fr âerâo_fw-la dei_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n â_o all_o tradition_n be_v not_o of_o equal_a authority_n among_o themselves_o but_o without_o any_o distinction_n whatsoever_o this_o jesuite_n will_v have_v they_o all_o to_o be_v of_o the_o same_o authority_n among_o themselves_o and_o of_o the_o same_o authority_n with_o the_o write_a word_n and_o the_o truth_n be_v they_o be_v no_o more_o worthy_a to_o be_v compare_v with_o the_o write_a word_n than_o 28._o than_o jer._n 13._o 28._o chaff_n with_o wheat_n than_o dross_n with_o â2_n with_o be_v 1._o â2_n silver_n the_o jesuite_n have_v already_o grant_v this_o 116._o this_o pag._n 116._o that_o the_o rite_n and_o ordinance_n of_o the_o church_n be_v ground_v only_o upon_o humane_a right_n and_o now_o he_o contradict_v the_o same_o that_o they_o be_v of_o divine_a right_n even_o equal_a with_o the_o write_a word_n and_o for_o this_o opinion_n he_o 120._o reply_v p._n 120._o boast_v of_o plain_a scripture_n and_o the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o ancient_a father_n it_o be_v no_o new_a thing_n to_o hear_v the_o enemy_n of_o the_o truth_n claim_v the_o scripture_n and_o the_o father_n to_o be_v they_o after_o the_o same_o manner_n the_o heretic_n boast_v that_o 27._o that_o ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d euseb_n l._n 5._o hist_o c._n 27._o the_o father_n and_o the_o apostle_n hold_v &_o teach_v the_o same_o thing_n which_o they_o say_v first_o let_v we_o hear_v his_o plain_a scripture_n 15._o scripture_n â_o thes_n â_o 15._o therefore_o brethren_n stand_v fast_o and_o hold_v the_o tradition_n which_o you_o have_v be_v teach_v whether_o by_o word_n or_o by_o our_o epistle_n this_o text_n be_v no_o less_o than_o ten_o time_n allege_v by_o he_o and_o once_o for_o all_o i_o return_v this_o answer_n to_o it_o those_o tradition_n be_v 121._o reply_v pag._n 121._o write_v and_o not_o unwritten_a doctrine_n s._n paul_n declare_v his_o continual_a practice_n 22._o practice_n act._n 26._o 22._o he_o witness_v both_o to_o small_a and_o great_a and_o therefore_o to_o the_o thessalonian_o none_o other_o thing_n than_o those_o which_o moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n do_v say_v his_o doctrine_n deliver_v at_o thessalonica_n be_v take_v 2._o take_v act._n 17._o 2._o out_o of_o the_o scripture_n and_o suppose_v it_o be_v not_o write_v in_o the_o old_a testament_n yet_o it_o may_v be_v write_v in_o the_o new_a by_o himself_o or_o by_o some_o other_o of_o the_o apostle_n what_o he_o teach_v the_o philippian_n by_o word_n of_o mouth_n the_o 1._o the_o philip._n 3._o 1._o same_o thing_n he_o write_v afterward_o unto_o they_o in_o his_o epistle_n and_o unto_o the_o thessalonian_o he_o write_v those_o thing_n 5._o thing_n 2._o thess_n 2._o 5._o which_o he_o first_o tell_v they_o and_o 10._o and_o 2._o thess_n 3._o 10._o which_o he_o first_o command_v they_o the_o word_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d use_v by_o the_o apostle_n signify_v aswell_o both_o as_o whether_o and_o it_o be_v not_o only_o disjunctive_a but_o very_o 8._o very_o 1._o cor._n â1â_n 1â_n c._n 15._o 11._o coloss_n 1._o 20_o rom._n 14._o 8._o oft_o conjunctive_a by_o which_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v declare_v to_o be_v this_o hold_v fast_o the_o tradition_n or_o the_o doctrine_n which_o have_v be_v teach_v you_o both_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n &_o by_o epistle_n the_o matter_n teach_v be_v the_o same_o although_o the_o manner_n of_o teach_v be_v different_a both_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n and_o by_o epistle_n s._n ambrose_n expound_v it_o thus_o thess_n thus_o in_o traditione_n evangelij_fw-la standum_fw-la ac_fw-la perseverandum_fw-la monet_fw-la ambros_n in_o 2._o thess_n he_o admonish_v they_o to_o stand_v &_o to_o persevere_v in_o the_o tradition_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o gretzer_n your_o great_a sire_n defend_v bellarmine_n defend_v this_o interpretation_n that_o it_o may_v be_v the_o same_o doctrine_n which_o s._n paul_n deliver_v by_o word_n of_o mouth_n and_o by_o epistle_n and_o give_v this_o instance_n for_o it_o 5_o it_o sicut_fw-la eadem_fw-la fides_fw-la quae_fw-la confirmata_fw-la olim_fw-la fuit_fw-la per_fw-la circumcisionem_fw-la &_o pascha_fw-la quae_fw-la nunc_fw-la confirmatur_fw-la per_fw-la baptismum_fw-la &_o coenam_fw-la gretz_n defence_n bellarm._n l._n 4._o c._n 5_o even_o as_o it_o be_v the_o same_o faith_n which_o be_v former_o confirm_v by_o circumcision_n and_o the_o passeover_n which_o be_v now_o confirm_v by_o baptism_n and_o the_o lord_n supper_n it_o be_v most_o manifest_a by_o the_o precedent_a word_n that_o the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o such_o tradition_n as_o help_v to_o keep_v out_o 3._o out_o 2._o thess_n 2._o 3._o the_o man_n of_o sin_n the_o son_n of_o perdition_n it_o can_v then_o be_v that_o he_o shall_v speak_v of_o unwritten_a tradition_n because_o popish_a tradition_n be_v the_o only_a key_n to_o let_v he_o in_o 2._o to_o prove_v the_o uniform_a consent_n of_o the_o father_n he_o first_o allege_v s._n chrysostome_n thess_n chrysostome_n chrysost_n in_fw-ge â_o thess_n by_o this_o say_n of_o s._n paul_n it_o be_v manifest_a say_v s._n chrysostome_n that_o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o 121._o reply_v pag._n 121._o deliver_v all_o thing_n by_o their_o epistle_n but_o that_o they_o deliver_v many_o thing_n without_o writing_n which_o be_v as_o worthy_a to_o be_v believe_v as_o those_o thing_n which_o they_o leave_v write_v we_o yield_v unto_o this_o that_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o deliver_v all_o thing_n by_o writing_n and_o i_o will_v grant_v more_o unto_o the_o jesuite_n that_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o deliver_v all_o thing_n by_o epistle_n or_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n which_o be_v and_o may_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n as_o all_o the_o rite_n and_o ceremony_n of_o it_o and_o those_o be_v the_o thing_n of_o which_o s._n chrysostome_n speak_v of_o thing_n indifferent_a concern_v necessary_a thing_n write_v upon_o the_o same_o chapter_n these_o be_v his_o word_n â_o word_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d chrysost_n hom_n 3_o in_o 2._o thes_n â_o all_o thing_n be_v clear_a and_o true_a which_o be_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n all_o necessary_a thing_n be_v manifest_a but_o that_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o necessary_a and_o be_v deliver_v without_o writing_n shall_v be_v as_o worthy_a of_o faith_n as_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v write_v this_o be_v one_o of_o his_o many_o hyperbolical_a speech_n it_o be_v rather_o a_o flourish_n of_o his_o rhetoric_n than_o a_o truth_n in_o divinity_n s._n basil_n say_v 29._o say_v basil_n de_fw-fr spirit_n sanct._n c._n 29._o i_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v a_o apostolical_a doctrine_n that_o reply_n reply_n we_o adhere_v unto_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o proof_n whereof_o he_o allege_v scripture_n the_o author_n be_v suspect_v but_o i_o pass_v by_o that_o for_o the_o present_a i_o hold_v with_o the_o author_n that_o it_o be_v fit_a to_o yield_v unto_o such_o unwritten_a tradition_n as_o he_o write_v of_o and_o those_o be_v only_o ritual_a and_o not_o doctrinal_a unto_o these_o we_o do_v yield_v not_o as_o unto_o the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o be_v of_o divine_a power_n and_o abide_v for_o ever_o but_o as_o to_o the_o law_n of_o man_n which_o be_v of_o humane_a right_n and_o mutable_a according_a unto_o time_n &_o place_n and_o in_o proof_n of_o the_o lawful_a use_n of_o those_o we_o oft_o cite_v scripture_n as_o that_o author_n do_v in_o the_o next_o place_n he_o allege_v â_o allege_v that_o of_o epiphan_n be_v answer_v sect._n 2d._o divis_n 10._o light_v â_o s._n hierome_n 4â_n
5._o quaest_n 5._o be_v 1._o there_o be_v principle_n plain_o lay_v down_o in_o scripture_n which_o be_v the_o ground_n of_o many_o other_o article_n as_o of_o two_o nature_n and_o one_o person_n in_o christ_n and_o of_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o child_n &c_n &c_n and_o of_o many_o other_o doctrine_n not_o express_o write_v and_o yet_o firm_o draw_v from_o scripture_n such_o aâe_n many_o other_o point_n as_o that_o of_o the_o consubstantiality_n 126_o reply_v pag._n 126_o of_o the_o son_n with_o the_o father_n the_o proceed_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n from_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n as_o from_o one_o beginning_n that_o the_o father_n be_v unbegotten_a 12._o these_o three_o point_n which_o concern_v the_o glorious_a trinity_n father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n we_o believe_v they_o to_o be_v article_n of_o our_o faith_n and_o to_o be_v write_v though_o not_o formal_o yet_o virtual_o in_o the_o scripture_n and_o it_o may_v be_v that_o the_o spirit_n of_o contention_n move_v the_o jesuite_n to_o strive_v about_o the_o form_n of_o word_n and_o not_o about_o the_o form_n of_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o those_o word_n unbegotten_a consubstantial_a &c_n &c_n s._n augustine_n dispute_v about_o the_o same_o word_n say_v 174._o say_v quid_fw-la enim_fw-la contentiosive_n quam_fw-la ubi_fw-la dâre_fw-la constat_fw-la certare_fw-la de_fw-la nomine_fw-la august_n ad_fw-la pascent_fw-la arian_n epist_n 174._o what_o be_v contention_n if_o this_o be_v not_o to_o strive_v about_o word_n when_o we_o agree_v about_o the_o thing_n the_o word_n themselves_o be_v not_o the_o point_n of_o faith_n the_o church_n believe_v the_o same_o point_n of_o faith_n before_o the_o same_o word_n be_v use_v but_o the_o doctrine_n contain_v in_o those_o word_n be_v the_o point_n of_o faith_n and_o if_o he_o will_v say_v the_o doctrine_n be_v not_o write_v because_o the_o word_n be_v not_o write_v he_o may_v aswell_o say_v the_o trinity_n of_o person_n and_o the_o unity_n of_o essence_n be_v unwritten_a doctrine_n because_o the_o word_n trinity_n and_o unity_n be_v not_o write_v it_o be_v the_o doctrine_n of_o devil_n first_o to_o teach_v that_o these_o thing_n be_v not_o write_v that_o so_o man_n may_v doubt_v of_o they_o and_o after_o deny_v they_o what_o a_o gap_n be_v here_o lay_v open_a to_o let_v in_o paganism_n atheism_n judaisme_n and_o sundry_a sort_n of_o heresy_n let_v he_o then_o recant_v his_o error_n lest_o he_o be_v burn_v for_o a_o heretic_n bellarmine_n make_v a_o better_a confession_n say_v 2_o say_v retinentur_fw-la à _fw-la nobisilla_fw-la nomina_fw-la essentia_fw-la homousios_fw-gr hypostasis_fw-la persona_fw-la &c_n &c_n quia_fw-la etsi_fw-la in_o scripture_n non_fw-la âabentur_fw-la âamen_fw-la habentuâ_n corum_fw-la semina_fw-la &_o âquivalentia_fw-la bellann_n de_fw-fr christo_fw-la l._n 2._o c._n 2_o we_o retain_v these_o word_n essence_n consubstantial_a hypostasis_fw-la person_n &c_n &c_n because_o we_o find_v word_n which_o be_v aquivalent_a unto_o they_o in_o scripture_n although_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o contain_v these_o same_o word_n that_o of_o the_o consubstantiality_n of_o the_o son_n with_o the_o father_n be_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n by_o tertullian_n in_o a_o praxâam_fw-la a_o tertul._n adâ_n praxâam_fw-la treatise_n write_v for_o that_o purpose_n â_o purpose_n ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d ãâã_d theodor_n dialog_n â_o for_o this_o we_o will_v produce_v demonstration_n out_o of_o the_o holy_a scripture_n say_v theodor._n â_o dispute_v against_o arius_n concern_v this_o point_n 5._o point_n quomo_n âo_o dicis_fw-la in_o scripture_n homoousion_n non_fw-la inveniâi_fw-la quasi_fw-la aliud_fw-la âit_n homoousion_n quam_fw-la quod_fw-la dicit_fw-la ego_fw-la de_fw-la patre_fw-la exivi_fw-la et_fw-la ego_fw-la &_o pater_fw-la unum_fw-la sumus_fw-la ambrosâ_n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la cont_n arianâ_n c._n 5._o how_o do_v thou_o say_v say_v ambrose_n the_o word_n consubstantial_a be_v not_o find_v 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116_o pag._n 118._o father_n be_v unbegotten_a that_o the_o sânne_n be_v âonsubst_v anâiall_a with_o the_o father_n and_o that_o the_o holy_a guest_n be_v to_o be_v âââred_a and_o worship_v ââ_o 143._o pag._n 143._o god_n be_v not_o these_o thing_n general_o necessary_a for_o all_o to_o know_v again_o 11._o again_o august_n l._n de_fw-fr pastor_n c._n 11._o whatsoever_o you_o he_o be_v from_o the_o holy_a scripture_n answer_n answer_n let_v that_o savour_n well_o unto_o you_o whatsâever_o be_v without_o they_o reââse_n lâst_v you_o wander_v in_o a_o cloud_n your_o meaning_n be_v not_o sure_a to_o hurt_v as_o by_o these_o saying_n 14â_n reply_v p._n 14â_n of_o s._n augustine_n see_v you_o bring_v they_o to_o so_o little_a purpose_n for_o s._n augustine_n be_v so_o far_o from_o think_v the_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n to_o be_v without_o scripture_n that_o he_o assuâeth_v ââ_o to_o ââ_o ãâã_d ââtry_a truth_n of_o scripture_n when_o we_o do_v that_o which_o ââ_o please_a to_o the_o 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