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〈◊〉_d tradition_n unwritten_a &_o that_o this_o be_v the_o prime_a ground_n of_o â—ayth_n more_o fundamental_a than_o scripture_n you_o most_o large_o labour_v to_o refel_v and_o term_v it_o pag._n 91._o a_o anti-â—hristian_a and_o impudent_a assertion_n to_o depress_v the_o write_a â—ord_n of_o god_n &_o exalt_v the_o profane_a bastardly_a apocryphal_a tradition_n of_o the_o pope_n this_o be_v bitter_a enough_o &_o yet_o cerâ—â—ynly_o you_o teach_v that_o there_o be_v tradition_n maintain_v and_o uphold_v the_o scripture_n in_o authority_n or_o 〈◊〉_d you_o speak_v inept_o not_o know_v what_o you_o affirm_v for_o some_o two_o page_n before_o this_o your_o reproachful_a word_n to_o wit_n pag._n 89._o you_o thus_o distinguish_v about_o tradition_n the_o church_n have_v no_o perpetual_a tradition_n but_o such_o as_o be_v either_o contain_v in_o scripture_n or_o which_o be_v subseruient_fw-fr to_o maintain_v the_o faith_n verity_n and_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n &_o the_o 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zelo_fw-la excitatur_fw-la ibid._n firmilian_a zealous_a in_o deny_v the_o validity_n of_o baptism_n give_v by_o heretic_n who_o ever_o impugn_v the_o unity_n of_o peter_n chair_n whereas_o your_o adversary_n say_v that_o the_o scripture_n to_o they_o that_o know_v tradition_n be_v abundant_o sufficient_a but_o without_o tradition_n not_o against_o this_o 16._o this_o pag._n 37._o lin_v 5._o &_o pag._n 42._o lin_v 16._o you_o urge_v this_o say_n of_o vincentius_n lyrinensis_n 2._o lyrinensis_n vincent_n lyr._fw-la adu_fw-la hâ—r_n c._n 2._o the_o canon_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v perfect_a and_o sufficient_a in_o itself_o for_o all_o matter_n yea_o more_o than_o sufficient_a very_o this_o be_v sufficient_a &_o more_o than_o sufficient_a to_o show_v the_o beggary_n of_o your_o religion_n otherwise_o this_o testimony_n so_o impertinent_a will_v not_o be_v by_o you_o and_o your_o fellow_n so_o perpetual_o not_o perpetual_o john_n white_a defence_n pag._n â—70_n wotton_n field_n whitaker_n and_o who_o not_o allege_v for_o lyrinensis_n do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v abundant_o sufficient_a but_o only_o the_o same_o be_v suppose_v in_o a_o objection_n or_o question_n move_v unto_o he_o in_o answer_v whereto_o lyrinensis_n do_v show_v that_o this_o suppose_a sufficiency_n be_v not_o such_o but_o of_o necessity_n the_o rule_n of_o tradition_n must_v be_v join_v therewith_o i_o know_v you_o be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o the_o text_n you_o have_v read_v it_o but_o read_v it_o i_o pray_v you_o once_o again_o &_o therein_o read_v the_o conviction_n of_o your_o falsehood_n some_o etc._n some_o forsitan_fw-la requirat_fw-la aliquis_fw-la câ—m_fw-la sit_fw-la perfectus_fw-la etc._n etc._n may_v ask_v see_v the_o canon_n of_o the_o scripture_n be_v perfect_a and_o sufficient_a unto_o itself_o in_o all_o thing_n what_o need_n be_v there_o that_o the_o authority_n of_o ecclesiastical_a interpretation_n be_v join_v therewith_o because_o all_o 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the_o question_n the_o scripture_n be_v deep_a dark_a difficile_a that_o set_v tradition_n aside_o in_o lieu_n of_o one_o certain_a assure_a truth_n one_o may_v find_v therein_o manifold_a wind_n and_o turn_n of_o error_n second_o that_o in_o this_o respect_n the_o scripture_n can_v be_v the_o only_a rule_n of_o faith_n but_o it_o be_v necessary_a and_o very_a necessary_a that_o beside_o scripture_n we_o allow_v the_o rule_n of_o church-tradition_n or_o exposition_n you_o know_v this_o as_o you_o do_v with_o what_o conscience_n can_v you_o cite_v this_o place_n for_o the_o sole-sufficiency_n of_o scripture_n &_o so_o many_o time_n cite_v it_o take_v a_o thing_n false_o suppose_v in_o the_o question_n for_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o author_n pag_n 44._o lin_v 24._o to_o prove_v the_o perspicuity_n of_o the_o scripture_n in_o itself_o without_o the_o light_n of_o tradition_n for_o all_o necessary_a point_n you_o cite_v the_o word_n of_o irenaeus_n all_o the_o 46._o the_o irenaeus_n 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that_o which_o be_v manifest_a after_o that_o which_o be_v obscure_a s._n augustine_n plain_n place_n be_v find_v in_o scripture_n to_o expound_v and_o open_v the_o dark_a &_o hard_a if_o this_o be_v true_a how_o be_v all_o the_o scripture_n clear_a without_o ambiguity_n yea_o s._n irenaeus_n in_o the_o very_a next_o chapter_n scripture_n chapter_n iren._n l._n 2._o c._n 47._o ut_fw-la in_o rebuâ—_n creatiâ—_n quaedam_fw-la deo_fw-la subiacent_a quaedam_fw-la &_o in_fw-la nostram_fw-la venerunt_fw-la scientiam_fw-la sic_fw-la &_o in_o 〈◊〉_d scripture_n say_v that_o some_o thing_n in_o scripture_n be_v clear_a and_o manifest_a which_o we_o must_v learn_v and_o believe_v other_o be_v dark_a and_o obscure_a the_o interpretation_n of_o which_o we_o must_v remit_v unto_o god_n very_o these_o argument_n convince_v you_o to_o have_v falsify_v irenaeus_n as_o you_o have_v indeed_o &_o very_o gross_o for_o he_o do_v not_o say_v all_o scripture_n be_v clear_a without_o ambiguity_n as_o you_o 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doctrine_n &_o matter_n and_o of_o thing_n believe_v what_o be_v divine_a faith_n but_o to_o believe_v thing_n we_o do_v videntur_fw-la do_v argumentum_fw-la non_fw-la apparentium_fw-la hebr._n 11.1_o fide_fw-la credimus_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la videmus_fw-la aug._n de_fw-fr gen._n ad_fw-la lit_fw-fr l._n 12._o c._n 31._o et_fw-la enchirid._n c._n 8._o fides_n quam_fw-la divina_fw-la eloquia_fw-la docent_fw-la est_fw-la earum_fw-la rerum_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la videntur_fw-la not_o see_v upon_o the_o word_n of_o god_n reveal_v they_o who_o we_o know_v to_o be_v worthy_a of_o all_o credit_n so_o that_o howsoever_o some_o learned_a man_n may_v otherwise_o see_v some_o doctrine_n reveal_v by_o the_o light_n of_o reason_n yet_o never_o by_o the_o light_n of_o faith_n for_o faith_n be_v that_o virtue_n whereby_o we_o operandi_fw-la we_o fides_n inchoat_fw-la meritum_fw-la aug._n l._n 1._o retrac_fw-la c._n 23._o et_fw-fr epist_n 106._o fides_n meretur_fw-la gratiam_fw-la 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theodos._n nor_o as_o the_o sanctifier_n of_o our_o soul_n dwell_v in_o the_o same_o by_o grace_n hierom_n in_o proverb_n c._n 2._o nullum_fw-la invocare_fw-la idâ—â—_n intus_fw-la orando_fw-la vocare_fw-la nisi_fw-la deum_fw-la debemus_fw-la three_o that_o the_o priest_n do_v not_o invocate_v saint_n by_o direct_a prayer_n in_o the_o lyturgy_n of_o the_o mass_n which_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n the_o devotion_n thereof_o be_v to_o be_v direct_v to_o god_n only_o augustine_n lib._n 22._o the_o civet_n c._n 10._o carthag_n 4._o c._n 23._o four_o that_o our_o friend_n that_o be_v decease_v do_v not_o now_o hear_v we_o in_o the_o familiar_a manner_n they_o be_v wont_v converse_v with_o us._n hierom._n ad_fw-la heliodor_n de_fw-fr obitu_fw-la nepotiam_fw-la whatsoever_o i_o write_v seem_v to_o be_v dead_a &_o 〈◊〉_d because_o nepotian_n do_v not_o hear_v it_o to_o wit_n iâ—_n visible_a manner_n delight_v therein_o and_o applaud_v the_o same_o as_o he_o be_v accustom_v to_o do_v in_o his_o life-time_n 6._o life-time_n hence_o appear_v the_o impertinency_n of_o the_o minister_n that_o so_o often_o urge_v this_o place_n of_o s._n hierome_n pag._n 29.2_o lin_v 22._o orthodox_n pa._n 54._o li._n 6._o five_o that_o they_o do_v not_o know_v what_o be_v do_v in_o this_o world_n by_o their_o natural_a force_n augustine_n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 16._o per_fw-la divinam_fw-la potentiam_fw-la martyr_n vivorum_fw-la rebus_fw-la intersunt_fw-la quoniam_fw-la defuncti_fw-la per_fw-la naturam_fw-la propriam_fw-la vivorum_fw-la rebus_fw-la interest_n non_fw-la possunt_fw-la six_o speak_v unto_o some_o decease_a person_n they_o make_v a_o if_o whether_o they_o hear_v they_o or_o not_o because_o they_o speak_v unto_o such_o as_o they_o know_v not_o certain_o to_o be_v saint_n nazianzen_n orat_fw-la 3._o in_o julian._n praise_n julian._n the_o minister_n here_o say_v do_v not_o the_o father_n reckon_v constantine_n to_o be_v in_o joy_n and_o glory_n and_o yet_o gregory_n nazianzen_n use_v a_o apostrophe_n to_o he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d hear_v o_o thou_o spirit_n of_o great_a constantine_n if_o thou_o have_v any_o notion_n of_o these_o thing_n i_o answer_v you_o falsify_v the_o text_n of_o nazianzen_n both_o in_o the_o greek_a &_o in_o your_o english_a translation_n for_o his_o word_n be_v hear_v o_o thou_o spirit_n of_o great_a constantius_n if_o thou_o have_v any_o notion_n of_o these_o thing_n yea_o that_o we_o may_v see_v you_o corrupt_v the_o text_n wilful_o &_o against_o your_o conscience_n even_o in_o this_o very_a reply_n &_o in_o this_o point_n â—f_a controversy_n you_o cite_v the_o same_o pag._n 359._o light_v a._n in_o this_o manner_n audi_fw-la etiam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d constantij_fw-la magni_fw-la anima_fw-la siquis_fw-la mortuus_fw-la sensus_fw-la est_fw-la hear_v o_o thou_o spirit_n of_o â—reat_a constantius_n etc._n etc._n now_o constantius_n be_v a_o arian_n and_o a_o persecutor_n of_o catholic_n unto_o his_o die_a day_n though_o on_o his_o death_n bed_n it_o be_v say_v â—e_v make_v some_o kind_n of_o repentance_n hence_o s._n gregory_n nazianzen_n may_v doubt_v â—f_o his_o be_v in_o glory_n and_o say_v hear_v if_o thou_o have_v any_o notion_n of_o these_o â—â—inges_n the_o same_o father_n in_o his_o funeral_n oration_n for_o his_o sister_n gorgonia_n where_o he_o say_v sister_n admit_v of_o this_o oration_n in_o lieu_n of_o many_o funeral_n offering_n if_o this_o reward_n be_v give_v to_o holy_a soul_n to_o feel_v these_o thing_n he_o do_v not_o doubt_n of_o she_o hear_v his_o prayer_n but_o only_o whether_o she_o receive_v a_o humane_a natural_a content_n in_o that_o his_o affectuous_a panigyricall_a make_v in_o her_o praise_n this_o truth_n suppose_v i_o can_v but_o conceive_v that_o your_o majesty_n profess_v so_o much_o love_n to_o the_o first_o primitive_a age_n may_v deceive_v satisfaction_n about_o this_o point_n the_o cause_n of_o protestant_n dislike_n be_v weak_a and_o not_o to_o be_v oppose_v against_o the_o strength_n of_o so_o long_o continue_v authority_n as_o i_o shall_v endeavour_v to_o demonstrate_v in_o their_o eight_o usual_a exception_n invocation_n of_o saint_n not_o to_o be_v dislike_v because_o not_o express_v in_o scripture_n §._o 2._o and_o first_o i_o must_v satisfy_v the_o transcendentall_a cause_n of_o their_o dislike_n rhem._n dislike_n confess_v august_n art_n 12._o fulke_o against_o rhem._n which_o be_v that_o worship_n and_o invocation_n of_o saint_n decease_v be_v not_o where_o express_o set_v down_o in_o scripture_n without_o express_a warrant_n whereof_o nothing_o may_v lawful_o be_v do_v that_o belong_v to_o religion_n but_o this_o though_o carry_v a_o show_n of_o devotion_n in_o the_o conceit_n of_o common_a people_n be_v altogether_o unworthy_a of_o the_o erudition_n of_o any_o learned_a protestant_n for_o howsoever_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o their_o separation_n they_o do_v mandato_fw-la do_v luther_n l_o de_fw-la seruo_fw-la arb_n &_o serm_n de_fw-fr cruse_n sive_fw-la expresso_fw-la dei_fw-la mandato_fw-la cry_v for_o express_v scripture_n express_v command_n oâ—_n the_o write_a word_n yet_o now_o they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d go_v 89._o go_v wotton_n in_o his_o trial_n pag._n 89._o from_o that_o principle_n as_o they_o be_v exceed_o angry_a 228._o angry_a john_n white_a in_o his_o defence_n pag._n 228._o with_o we_o that_o wâ—_n shall_v think_v that_o any_o of_o they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d any_o time_n broacher_n of_o such_o a_o absurdity_n wherefore_o in_o their_o write_a book_n whâ—â—_n they_o teach_v in_o pulpit_n i_o know_v not_o they_o 6._o they_o d._n field_n of_o the_o church_n l._n 4._o c._n 20._o whitaker_n de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la scrip._n cont_n 1._o q._n 6._o disclaim_v from_o express_a scripture_n and_o think_v it_o a_o sufficient_a warrant_n of_o a_o christâ—â—â—_n custom_n that_o the_o same_o be_v scripture_n be_v note_v that_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o be_v express_v in_o scripture_n and_o another_o to_o be_v ground_v on_o scripture_n all_o christian_a doctrine_n be_v not_o express_v in_o scripture_n yet_o every_o christian_a doctrine_n be_v so_o ground_v on_o scripture_n that_o it_o may_v in_o some_o sort_n or_o other_o be_v prove_v from_o scripture_n ground_v â—â—_o scripture_n that_o be_v may_v be_v deduce_v by_o good_a discourse_n from_o truth_n reveal_v therein_o 〈◊〉_d be_v prove_v consonant_n to_o the_o rule_n &_o principle_n thereof_o according_a to_o which_o ample_a extent_n of_o scripture_n unto_o thing_n deducible_a from_o they_o or_o consonant_n unto_o they_o there_o be_v no_o catholic_a custom_n that_o have_v not_o warrant_n in_o god_n word_n as_o we_o be_v able_a to_o show_v this_o only_a we_o require_v that_o ignorant_a people_n be_v not_o judge_n of_o such_o inference_n a_o office_n so_o far_o above_o their_o capacity_n as_o i_o be_o persuade_v no_o unlearned_a man_n that_o have_v in_o he_o any_o spark_n of_o humility_n or_o any_o mediocrity_n of_o judgement_n will_v undertake_v it_o for_o no_o man_n be_v competent_a to_o judge_v assure_o of_o argument_n by_o deduction_n from_o scripture_n that_o have_v not_o exact_a skill_n of_o scripture_n to_o know_v the_o false_a sense_n from_o the_o true_a as_o of_o logic_n to_o distinguish_v syllogism_n from_o paralogisme_n be_v able_a to_o give_v sentence_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o principle_n by_o the_o one_o and_o of_o the_o inference_n by_o the_o other_o a_o thing_n so_o hard_o as_o even_o learned_a divines_n do_v much_o suspect_v their_o own_o sufficiency_n to_o judge_v of_o deduction_n &_o dare_v not_o absolute_o pronounce_v their_o sentence_n but_o refer_v the_o same_o to_o definition_n of_o authority_n which_o beside_o skill_n of_o scripture_n &_o logic_n have_v the_o promise_n of_o god_n perpetual_a assistance_n in_o teach_v the_o christian_a church_n wherefore_o if_o protestant_n will_v bind_v we_o to_o bring_v express_a scripture_n for_o the_o worship_n of_o imag_n adoration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n invocation_n of_o saintes_n they_o must_v themselves_o likewise_o be_v bind_v to_o bring_v express_a scripture_n against_o anabaptist_n for_o scripture_n for_o d._n field_n l._n 4._o of_o the_o church_n c._n 20._o say_v it_o be_v not_o where_o express_o deliver_v in_o scripture_n christen_v of_o infant_n and_o for_o the_o keep_n of_o the_o sunday_n in_o lieu_n of_o the_o ancient_a sabboath_n day_n for_o their_o dedicate_a of_o practice_n of_o concern_v the_o protestant_n keep_v festival_n day_n of_o saint_n with_o religious_a solemnity_n the_o minister_n say_v not_o a_o word_n which_o be_v tacit_o to_o grant_v that_o this_o duty_n of_o religion_n be_v use_v pious_o by_o the_o english_a church_n although_o the_o same_o want_v the_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n why_o then_o may_v not_o catholic_n pray_v unto_o saintes_n though_o there_o be_v no_o warrant_n in_o scripture_n for_o such_o practice_n day_n in_o memory_n of_o the_o apostle_n with_o religious_a solemnity_n for_o the_o appear_v the_o concern_v the_o cross_n in_o baptism_n the_o minister_n say_v pag._n 302._o that_o it_o be_v
to_o evade_v first_o by_o deny_v that_o bless_a saint_n have_v the_o knowledge_n of_o prophesy_n in_o a_o more_o excellent_a and_o permanent_a manner_n then_o have_v the_o prophet_n in_o this_o life_n this_o be_v plain_a against_o the_o word_n of_o the_o apostle_n cite_v by_o the_o answerer_n for_o the_o apostle_n affirm_v that_o the_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n in_o this_o life_n be_v but_o ex_fw-la parte_fw-la imperfect_a in_o respect_n of_o thâ—_n prophesy_v and_o knowledge_n of_o the_o next_o which_o the_o bless_a enjoy_v exit_fw-la parte_fw-la propheâ—â—mus_fw-la tunc_fw-la cognoscam_fw-la sicut_fw-la &_o cognitus_fw-la sum_fw-la second_o he_o say_v though_o the_o blesed_a have_v the_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n eminent_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o theâ—_n have_v the_o exercise_n thereof_o according_a to_o every_o material_a object_n it_o have_v in_o thâ—â—_n life_n i_o answer_v that_o the_o saint_n of_o god_n have_v the_o gift_n of_o prophecy_n permanent_o &_o eminent_o &_o as_o knowledge_n pertinent_a unto_o their_o blissful_a state_n must_v thereby_o know_v any_o secret_n they_o desire_v to_o know_v &_o which_o belong_v to_o their_o state_n &_o such_o be_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_v make_v unto_o they_o the_o prophet_n elizaeus_n 4._o reg._n 5.16_o see_v in_o absence_n what_o pass_v betwixt_o his_o servant_n giezi_n argument_n about_o the_o 2._o argument_n and_o naman_n to_o who_o he_o say_v my_o hart_n be_v there_o present_a with_o thou_o with_o far_o great_a reason_n say_v saint_n absenâ—â—â—_n saint_n videbunt_fw-la sancti_fw-la omne_fw-la clausis_fw-la oculis_fw-la etiam_fw-la unde_fw-la sunt_fw-la corpore_fw-la absenâ—â—â—_n augustine_n l._n 22._o the_o civet_n c._n 29._o the_o saint_n of_o god_n even_o with_o eye_n of_o body_n close_v up_o shall_v see_v all_o thing_n not_o only_o present_a but_o also_o from_o which_o they_o be_v corporal_o absent_a for_o than_o shall_v be_v that_o perfection_n where_o the_o apostle_n say_v we_o now_o prophesy_v but_o in_o paâ—â—_n â—ut_fw-la then_o the_o imperfect_a shall_v be_v evacuate_v then_o evacuate_v to_o answer_v the_o minister_n cavil_v that_o the_o place_n of_o s._n augustine_n be_v understand_v only_o of_o saint_n after_o their_o resurrection_n note_v that_o although_o the_o father_n name_n the_o saint_n in_o their_o glorify_a body_n yet_o his_o reason_n convince_v the_o same_o of_o soul_n that_o be_v bless_v before_o the_o resurrection_n for_o his_o reason_n why_o the_o saint_n after_o the_o resurrection_n shall_v see_v the_o secret_n of_o heart_n and_o thing_n from_o which_o they_o be_v substantial_o distant_a be_v because_o they_o they_o shall_v prophesy_v not_o in_o part_n but_o full_o &_o evacuabitur_fw-la quod_fw-la ex_fw-la parte_fw-la est_fw-la all_o imperfection_n of_o knowledge_n shall_v be_v evacuate_v but_o the_o decease_a soul_n of_o saint_n now_o before_o the_o resurrection_n do_v prophesy_v not_o in_o part_n but_o know_v as_o they_o be_v kowne_a all_o imperfection_n of_o knowledge_n be_v evacuate_v from_o they_o ergo_fw-la they_o see_v thing_n absent_a and_o secret_n of_o heart_n now_o no_o less_o than_o they_o shall_v do_v then_o this_o be_v that_o which_o s._n hierome_n do_v defend_v to_o earnest_o against_o vigilantius_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o martyr_n be_v present_a where_o their_o shrine_n and_o relic_n be_v &_o never_o absent_v but_o still_o ready_a to_o hear_v the_o prayer_n of_o their_o suppliant_n not_o think_v that_o they_o be_v present_a in_o so_o many_o place_n substantial_o according_a to_o their_o soul_n but_o that_o they_o be_v present_a as_o elizaeus_n be_v present_a unto_o giezi_n in_o spirit_n behold_v what_o pass_v as_o clear_o as_o if_o they_o be_v corporal_o present_a three_o it_o be_v clear_o to_o be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o holy_a angel_n see_v the_o prayer_n and_o action_n and_o affection_n of_o man_n in_o the_o apocalip_n c._n 8.4_o a_o angel_n offer_v unto_o god_n the_o prayer_n of_o man_n which_o he_o can_v not_o have_v do_v have_v he_o not_o know_v they_o appellant_n they_o the_o minister_n pag._n 314._o lin_v 12._o say_v this_o place_n be_v understand_v not_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o nature_n but_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o type_n answer_n we_o must_v understand_v the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o the_o literal_a sense_n except_o we_o can_v clear_o demonstrate_v by_o scripture_n the_o literal_a sense_n to_o be_v absurd_a and_o this_o obligation_n do_v more_o special_o lie_v upon_o protestant_n who_o from_o perpetual_a tradition_n appeal_v unto_o scripture_n understand_v by_o exact_a conference_n of_o place_n as_o unto_o the_o last_o and_o supreme_a judge_n but_o you_o bring_v not_o one_o word_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v that_o in_o this_o place_n a_o angel_n by_o nature_n can_v be_v understand_v therefore_o you_o run_v to_o type_n and_o tropical_a sense_n without_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n by_o which_o yet_o you_o pretend_v you_o will_v be_v final_o try_v be_v you_o not_o then_o a_o ridiculous_a and_o vain_a appellant_n our_o saviour_n witness_v luc._n 15.10_o that_o the_o angel_n rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o sinner_n so_o they_o must_v needs_o know_v it_o nor_o can_v they_o know_v it_o without_o know_v the_o sinner_n heart_n soul_n heart_n the_o minister_n pag._n 315._o lin_v 15._o object_n against_o this_o argument_n that_o holy_a man_n on_o earth_n rejoice_v at_o the_o conversion_n of_o sinner_n yet_o they_o know_v not_o secret_n of_o heart_n therefore_o this_o argument_n be_v not_o good_a angel_n rejoice_v in_o the_o conversion_n of_o sinner_n ergo_fw-la they_o know_v the_o secret_a pious_a affection_n of_o man_n heart_n answer_n the_o joy_n of_o just_a man_n in_o this_o life_n be_v imperfect_a and_o mingle_v with_o fear_n nor_o do_v they_o rejoice_v in_o re_fw-mi in_o the_o thing_n but_o in_o spe_fw-mi in_o the_o hope_n that_o man_n conversion_n be_v sincere_a and_o in_o the_o outward_a sign_n thereof_o but_o the_o bless_a angel_n joy_n be_v 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angel_n which_o show_v that_o we_o live_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o angel_n &_o that_o they_o behold_v what_o we_o do_v and_o hear_v what_o we_o say_v even_o in_o our_o heart_n but_o as_o the_o same_o scripture_n luc._n 20.36_o math._n 22.30_o aver_v the_o saint_n be_v like_a unto_o the_o angel_n and_o equal_a unto_o the_o angel_n and_o in_o heaven_n the_o same_o be_v the_o measure_n of_o a_o man_n &_o of_o a_o angel_n apocal._n 21.17_o aug._n ep_v 112._o ergo_fw-la knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v to_o glorious_a saint_n the_o fellow_n of_o angel_n neither_o can_v saint_n without_o knowledge_n of_o humane_a affair_n be_v perfect_o bless_v blessedness_n be_v a_o state_n wherein_o all_o just_a and_o reasonable_a desire_n of_o nature_n be_v satisfy_v with_o uttermost_a content_n according_a to_o that_o of_o the_o psalm_n 16.15_o satiabor_fw-la cùm_fw-la apparuerit_fw-la gloria_fw-la tua_fw-la and_o who_o can_v think_v that_o saint_n full_a of_o glory_n and_o charity_n do_v not_o earnest_o desire_v desire_n desire_v the_o minister_n against_o this_o reply_n pag._n 319._o saying_n that_o the_o saint_n desire_v to_o know_v no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v god_n will_v they_o shall_v know_v but_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o it_o be_v god_n will_v they_o shall_v know_v the_o thing_n do_v on_o earth_n answer_n we_o must_v still_o suppose_v that_o the_o course_n and_o will_n of_o god_n be_v suitable_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o thing_n except_o the_o contrary_n be_v clear_o prove_v the_o nature_n of_o charity_n be_v to_o desire_v to_o know_v the_o state_n of_o our_o friend_n and_o their_o proceed_n and_o affection_n towards_o us._n ergo_fw-la the_o saint_n be_v full_a of_o charity_n be_v to_o be_v suppose_v to_o desire_v to_o know_v the_o state_n of_o their_o friend_n they_o leave_v behind_o they_o upon_o earth_n and_o for_o who_o salvation_n they_o â—e_v solicitous_a except_o our_o minister_n
because_o it_o do_v still_o proceed_v and_o must_v needs_o flow_v from_o inward_a reverence_n towards_o god_n for_o how_o can_v one_o worship_n saint_n pure_o and_o only_o as_o they_o be_v the_o friend_n servant_n and_o temple_n of_o god_n but_o out_o of_o the_o instinct_n of_o religion_n unto_o god_n hence_o s._n augustine_n term_n the_o honour_n of_o saint_n religious_a solemnity_n and_o s._n chrysostome_n say_v serm._n the_o martyr_n 69._o that_o we_o admire_v their_o merit_n with_o religious_a charity_n less_o than_o divine_a as_o proceed_v from_o persuasion_n of_o excellency_n though_o super-human_a yet_o infinite_o inferior_a unto_o the_o increate_v &_o immense_a excellency_n of_o god_n yea_o depend_v essential_o thereof_o so_o that_o honour_n that_o be_v give_v to_o they_o depend_v of_o god_n as_o be_v superexcellent_a participant_n of_o his_o perfection_n &_o his_o singular_a friend_n now_o that_o man_n may_v worship_v angel_n and_o saint_n in_o this_o sort_n with_o true_a 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adorans_fw-la so_o that_o this_o adoration_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n word_n angel_n the_o minister_n say_v pag._n 325._o that_o elias_n elizaeus_n and_o the_o angel_n be_v present_a visible_o and_o sensible_o but_o the_o saint_n be_v not_o sensible_o present_a &_o so_o we_o must_v not_o bow_v unto_o saint_n decease_v as_o child_n kneel_v not_o to_o their_o parent_n when_o they_o be_v absent_a answer_n we_o have_v prove_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o to_o be_v true_a which_o the_o father_n teach_v with_o full_a consent_n namely_o s._n basill_n the_o virgin_n c._n 16._o every_o angel_n &_o holy_a spirit_n of_o saint_n see_v what_o be_v do_v every_o where_n and_o if_o this_o be_v true_a that_o they_o be_v present_a unto_o we_o and_o we_o a_o spectacle_n unto_o they_o why_o shall_v we_o not_o worship_v they_o as_o much_o as_o if_o they_o be_v sensible_o present_a not_o sense_n but_o faith_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o our_o devotion_n towards_o saint_n may_v we_o worship_v saint_n that_o be_v present_a to_o we_o according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o flesh_n and_o not_o worship_v they_o that_o be_v present_a according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o faith_n and_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n word_n with_o more_o than_o human_a &_o natural_a respect_n and_o with_o acknowledgement_n of_o more_o than_o humane_a and_o natural_a perfection_n in_o they_o be_v clear_o deduceable_a from_o holy_a scripture_n neither_o have_v protestant_n reason_n to_o stand_v against_o so_o many_o pregnant_a example_n of_o scripture_n upon_o the_o one_o example_n in_o the_o apocalyps_n of_o the_o angel_n refuse_v to_o be_v adore_v of_o s._n john_n say_v see_v thou_o do_v it_o not_o i_o be_o one_o of_o thy_o fellow_n servant_n adore_v god_n special_o this_o place_n be_v explicate_v long_o ago_o by_o the_o father_n as_o not_o against_o the_o custom_n of_o christian_a saint-worship_n for_o either_o the_o angel_n so_o appear_v as_o saint_n john_n take_v he_o to_o be_v god_n &_o will_v have_v adore_v he_o as_o god_n whereof_o the_o adorer_n be_v to_o be_v warn_v as_o s._n augustine_n adorator_fw-la augustine_n s._n august_n q._n 61._o in_o genes_n corrigendus_fw-la erat_fw-la adorator_fw-la expound_v or_o rather_o the_o angel_n for_o bad_a that_o worship_n not_o as_o injurious_a unto_o god_n but_o only_o as_o coumbersome_a to_o himself_o be_v loath_a as_o s._n gregory_n note_v after_o the_o incarnation_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n to_o see_v a_o man_n lie_v prostrate_a unto_o he_o special_o so_o holy_a a_o man_n and_o so_o special_a a_o friend_n of_o jesus_n and_o the_o word_n do_v it_o not_o adore_v god_n import_v no_o more_o which_o i_o declare_v suppose_v that_o one_o praise_v a_o preacher_n to_o his_o face_n for_o a_o excellent_a sermon_n he_o have_v make_v &_o the_o preacher_n out_o of_o modesty_n say_v praise_v not_o i_o i_o be_o a_o unworthy_a instrument_n of_o divine_a wisdom_n praise_v the_o author_n of_o all_o this_o his_o speech_n do_v not_o import_v that_o he_o think_v to_o commend_v a_o preacher_n sermon_n to_o be_v idolatry_n &_o give_v away_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n to_o a_o creature_n but_o only_o that_o modesty_n make_v he_o wish_v that_o man_n will_v not_o praise_v he_o but_o rather_o turn_v all_o the_o praise_n &_o glory_n of_o that_o sermon_n upon_o god_n in_o this_o sort_n the_o angel_n see_v the_o great_a and_o glorious_a friend_n of_o jesus_n prostrate_v at_o his_o feeâ—e_n request_v he_o to_o rise_v up_o not_o condemn_v that_o adoration_n as_o idolatrous_a but_o refuse_v it_o as_o a_o action_n though_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o offerer_n pious_a &_o godly_a yet_o to_o he_o the_o receiver_n cumbersome_a which_o he_o can_v not_o without_o some_o unwillingnes_n behold_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o dignity_n of_o the_o person_n he_o see_v prostrate_v before_o he_o rayl_v he_o the_o minister_n in_o this_o place_n be_v large_a in_o bitterness_n against_o we_o because_o he_o know_v not_o what_o to_o say_v or_o how_o to_o frame_v a_o argument_n against_o we_o out_o of_o this_o text_n of_o the_o apocalips_n for_o if_o s._n john_n do_v give_v divine_a and_o religious_a worship_n to_o the_o angel_n due_a to_o god_n only_o the_o example_n be_v not_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o we_o say_v saint_n be_v not_o to_o be_v honour_v as_o go_n if_o he_o do_v only_o offer_v honour_n more_o than_o civil_a unto_o the_o angel_n in_o respect_n of_o his_o supernatural_a dignity_n with_o prostration_n of_o body_n than_o the_o same_o be_v not_o unlawful_a for_o the_o minister_n pag._n 336._o lin_v 30._o force_v by_o the_o jesuit_n argument_n do_v acknowledge_v such_o obeisance_n and_o reverend_a comportment_n may_v and_o must_v be_v do_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n when_o they_o be_v corporal_o &_o visible_o present_a as_o his_o angel_n be_v visible_o and_o corporal_o present_a to_o s._n john_n now_o that_o this_o great_a apostle_n of_o christ_n be_v more_o ignorant_a than_o any_o trivial_a minister_n that_o he_o know_v not_o what_o be_v 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of_o benefit_n receive_v as_o picture_n of_o lymms_n by_o saint_n prayer_n miraculous_o cure_v that_o therein_o they_o do_v not_o deflect_v from_o ancient_a christian_a devotion_n and_o that_o the_o christian_a church_n in_o her_o best_a time_n use_v universal_o to_o make_v such_o oblation_n theodoret_n 8._o theodoret_n theodoret._n de_fw-fr curandis_fw-la graecorum_n affect_v l._n 8._o be_v a_o sufficient_a witness_n who_o write_v against_o the_o gentill_n allege_v as_o a_o manifest_a sign_n of_o christ_n godhead_n and_o omnipotency_n that_o idol_n be_v exclude_v he_o bring_v in_o martyr_n to_o be_v honour_v in_o their_o room_n not_o superstitious_o as_o god_n but_o religious_o as_o divine_a man_n and_o god_n special_a friend_n christian_n people_n say_v he_o present_v themselves_o unto_o martyr_n not_o as_o unto_o god_n but_o as_o unto_o the_o martyr_n of_o god_n and_o divine_a man_n invocate_a &_o beseech_v they_o to_o be_v intercessor_n for_o they_o unto_o god_n and_o those_o 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communibus_fw-la reg._n 41._o jubet_fw-la regula_fw-la 41._o ut_fw-la saecularia_fw-la negotia_fw-la utpote_fw-la quae_fw-la sunt_fw-la à _fw-la nostro_fw-la instituto_fw-la aliena_fw-la &_o uchementer_fw-la à _fw-la spiritualibus_fw-la avocant_fw-la multùm_fw-la aversemur_fw-la concionatorum_fw-la aversemur_fw-la in_o regulis_fw-la concionatorum_fw-la jubentur_fw-la concionatores_fw-la societatis_fw-la à _fw-la reprehensionibus_fw-la principum_fw-la &_o magnatum_fw-la reipub_fw-la abstinere_fw-la &_o obedientiam_fw-la erga_fw-la principes_fw-la &_o magistratus_fw-la frequenter_a &_o seriò_fw-la suis_fw-la in_o concionibus_fw-la populo_fw-la commendare_fw-la constitutionibus_fw-la commendare_fw-la in_o constitutionibus_fw-la jubent_fw-la constitutiones_fw-la nostrae_fw-la varijs_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la ut_fw-la oremus_fw-la speciatim_fw-la pro_fw-la principibus_fw-la eorumque_fw-la spirituali_fw-la saluti_fw-la praecipuâ_fw-la curâ_fw-la procurandae_fw-la ac_fw-la promovendae_fw-la 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s._n aug._n in_o his_o 22._o book_n civet_n c._n 8._o and_o in_o tom_n serm_n fol._n 182._o edit_n lovan_n relate_v the_o history_n of_o two_o cure_v at_o the_o tomb_n of_o saint_n stephen_n at_o hippo_n that_o can_v not_o be_v cure_v at_o any_o other_o shrine_n of_o saint_n alibi_n curari_fw-la non_fw-la potuit_fw-la imo_fw-la facillimè_fw-la potuit_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la curatus_fw-la huic_fw-la loco_fw-la curandus_fw-la divina_fw-la praedestinatione_fw-la seruatus_fw-la saint_n lucy_n go_v on_o pilgrimage_n unto_o the_o body_n of_o saint_n agatha_n for_o help_v of_o her_o mother_n put_v peculiar_a confidence_n in_o her_o intercession_n as_o be_v a_o christian_a virgin_n of_o her_o country_n and_o profession_n s._n justina_n virgin_n be_v by_o the_o devil_n tempt_v against_o virginal_a purity_n flee_v to_o the_o most_o glorious_a of_o virgin_n virginem_fw-la mariam_n rogavit_fw-la ut_fw-la periclitanti_fw-la virgini_fw-la opem_fw-la ferret_n 〈◊〉_d s._n nazianzen_n cypr._n nazianzen_n greg._n nazian_n orat_fw-la in_o s._n cypr._n write_v s._n martinian_n as_o paulinus_n cytherium_fw-la paulinus_n paulin._n epist._n ad_fw-la cytherium_fw-la record_v have_v suffer_v shipwreck_n call_v with_o peculiar_a devotion_n and_o trust_n upon_o s._n paul_n who_o epistle_n he_o do_v high_o honour_n remember_v that_o the_o same_o saint_n yet_o live_v deliver_v a_o hundred_o and_o seaventy_n soul_n from_o the_o like_a peril_n neither_o be_v his_o petition_n frustrate_v notwithstanding_o we_o confess_v that_o herein_o a_o discreet_a mediocrity_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v and_o if_o abuse_n be_v creep_v in_o among_o common_a people_n we_o desire_v they_o shall_v be_v reform_v but_o so_o that_o pare_n away_o the_o abuse_n we_o take_v not_o away_o the_o substance_n of_o a_o pious_a christian_a custom_n for_o we_o can_v expect_v that_o simple_a people_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n will_v not_o sometime_o foolish_o and_o superstitious_o mistake_v which_o when_o it_o 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in_o the_o same_o sort_n our_o saviour_n say_v make_v to_o yourselves_o friend_n of_o the_o riches_n of_o iniquity_n that_o when_o you_o die_v they_o may_v receive_v you_o into_o the_o eternal_a tabernacle_n if_o then_o the_o saint_n of_o god_n by_o the_o mouth_n of_o verity_n itself_o be_v say_v to_o receive_v their_o friend_n when_o they_o die_v into_o the_o eternal_a tabernacle_n because_o god_n move_v by_o their_o prayer_n admit_v they_o into_o the_o blissful_a vision_n of_o his_o essence_n why_o may_v not_o the_o church_n and_o her_o child_n crave_v the_o bless_a virgin_n intercession_n in_o these_o word_n mother_n of_o mercy_n receive_v we_o in_o the_o hour_n of_o death_n and_o see_v god_n in_o scripture_n be_v term_v mercy_n why_o shall_v not_o she_o be_v style_v mother_n of_o mercy_n that_o be_v undoubted_o mother_n of_o god_n especial_o see_v that_o in_o and_o of_o her_o the_o author_n of_o mercy_n &_o grace_n be_v conceive_v and_o bear_v and_o she_o fill_v with_o grace_n 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author_n thereof_o express_v a_o truth_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o bless_a virgin_n be_v exceed_o gracious_a with_o her_o son_n and_o her_o intercession_n very_o potent_a allude_v to_o a_o phrase_n of_o scripture_n use_v hester_n cap._n 5.3.6_o &_o cap._n 7.2_o mark_v 6.23_o whereby_o such_o as_o be_v gracious_a with_o a_o prince_n be_v say_v that_o they_o may_v have_v any_o thing_n though_o half_a of_o his_o kingdom_n so_o devide_v god_n kingdom_n into_o justice_n and_o mercy_n to_o show_v how_o gracious_a the_o bless_a virgin_n be_v with_o her_o son_n they_o say_v god_n have_v give_v she_o one_o half_a of_o his_o kingdom_n to_o wit_n his_o mercy_n which_o be_v a_o metaphor_n far_o fetch_v not_o to_o be_v use_v howsoever_o in_o charity_n it_o may_v be_v excuse_v the_o four_o point_n the_o liturgy_n &_o private_a prayer_n for_o the_o ignorant_a in_o a_o unknown_n tongue_n the_o custom_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n in_o this_o point_n be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o age_n and_o also_o of_o vulgar_a of_o the_o minister_n pag._n 356._o lin_v 22._o it_o be_v false_a according_a to_o the_o tenet_n of_o bellarmine_n himself_o that_o all_o other_o church_n which_o differ_v from_o protestant_n have_v their_o public_a service_n in_o hebrew_n greek_a or_o latin_a answer_n this_o be_v your_o fashion_n when_o you_o have_v not_o what_o to_o reply_v you_o impose_v your_o say_n upon_o your_o adversary_n and_o then_o urge_v they_o be_v false_a the_o answerer_n never_o say_v that_o all_o church_n which_o differ_v from_o protestant_n have_v their_o service_n in_o hebrew_n greek_a or_o latin_a for_o this_o he_o know_v to_o be_v false_a in_o the_o maronit_n armenian_n egyptian_n aethiopian_n russian_n but_o he_o say_v they_o all_o agree_v with_o the_o roman_a in_o that_o they_o have_v their_o divine_a service_n in_o a_o language_n not_o vulgar_a nor_o common_o know_v of_o the_o people_n this_o be_v true_a for_o the_o forenamed_a christian_n 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11.1_o ad_fw-la cor._n i_o hear_v say_v he_o what_o the_o word_n of_o the_o supper_n import_n for_o christ_n do_v give_v we_o not_o only_o the_o benefit_n of_o his_o death_n and_o resurrection_n but_o also_o the_o very_a body_n wherein_o he_o die_v and_o arise_v again_o from_o death_n yea_o libro_fw-la de_fw-la coena_fw-la inter_fw-la eius_fw-la opuscula_fw-la pag._n 133._o he_o say_v that_o negare_fw-la veram_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la substantiam_fw-la to_o deny_v the_o true_a substance_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v give_v in_o the_o supper_n be_v execrabilis_fw-la blasphemia_fw-la auditu_fw-la indigna_fw-es a_o execrable_a blasphemy_n against_o which_o we_o ought_v to_o stop_v our_o ear_n the_o caluinian_a doctrine_n that_o christ_n body_n be_v only_o in_o heaven_n be_v spiritual_o present_a not_o only_o by_o faith_n not_o only_o according_a to_o the_o effect_n of_o his_o grace_n but_o also_o in_o his_o bodily_a substance_n yet_o only_o unto_o the_o faithful_a receiver_n not_o unto_o the_o sacramental_a sign_n be_v both_o against_o god_n word_n and_o implicatory_a in_o reason_n first_o it_o be_v no_o less_o than_o the_o zuinglian_n against_o the_o plain_a &_o express_v word_n of_o our_o saviour_n for_o our_o saviour_n by_o say_v take_v eat_v this_o be_v my_o body_n drink_v you_o all_o of_o this_o for_o this_o be_v my_o blood_n matth._n 26._o do_v aver_v the_o sacrament_n to_o be_v his_o body_n and_o blood_n in_o respect_n of_o that_o take_n and_o eat_v unto_o which_o by_o these_o word_n he_o do_v invite_v and_o exhort_v but_o by_o this_o speech_n he_o do_v invite_v and_o exhort_v unto_o sacramental_a and_o corporal_a take_n and_o eat_v this_o appear_v by_o the_o immediate_a practice_n of_o the_o apostle_n who_o upon_o these_o word_n of_o our_o lord_n take_v the_o sacrament_n with_o their_o corporal_a mouth_n this_o also_o our_o adversaries_n can_v deny_v see_v they_o urge_v by_o virtue_n of_o these_o word_n corporal_a 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in_o hand_n and_o demonstrate_v by_o the_o pronowne_a this_o to_o be_v true_o and_o real_o his_o body_n but_o only_o by_o figure_n this_o i_o prove_v that_o which_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o figure_n and_o show_v and_o not_o in_o substance_n be_v not_o true_o &_o real_o christ_n his_o body_n even_o as_o what_o be_v a_o man_n in_o show_n and_o figure_n not_o in_o essence_n and_o substance_n be_v not_o true_o and_o real_o a_o man_n but_o caluinist_n say_v that_o this_o or_o the_o thing_n which_o christ_n have_v in_o his_o hand_n be_v christ_n body_n in_o show_n &_o figure_n and_o not_o in_o substance_n ergo_fw-la they_o put_v not_o a_o real_a presence_n which_o make_v that_o which_o christ_n have_v in_o his_o hand_n &_o do_v demonstrate_v by_o the_o particle_n this_o to_o be_v true_o his_o body_n it_o be_v therefore_o a_o fiction_n devise_v to_o satisfy_v the_o caluinian_a fancy_n not_o the_o christian_a faith_n or_o the_o rigurous_a truth_n of_o god_n word_n three_o by_o this_o doctrine_n they_o bound_v themselves_o and_o other_o to_o believe_v a_o high_a and_o incomprehensible_a mystery_n without_o any_o necessity_n or_o compulsion_n from_o god_n word_n for_o what_o can_v be_v more_o unintelligible_a then_o that_o there_o shall_v be_v true_a and_o real_a union_n according_a to_o substance_n betwixt_o two_o distinct_a individual_a substance_n that_o be_v distant_a the_o one_o from_o the_o other_o as_o far_o as_o heaven_n be_v from_o earth_n hence_o caluin_n say_v libro_fw-la de_fw-la coena_fw-la that_o this_o be_v sublime_a &_o arduum_fw-la quod_fw-la neque_fw-la quidem_fw-la cogitation_n complecti_fw-la possimus_fw-la &_o in_o cap._n 11.1_o ad_fw-la cor._n arcanum_fw-la &_o mirificum_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la opus_fw-la quod_fw-la intelligentiae_fw-la nostrae_fw-la modulo_fw-la metiri_fw-la nefas_fw-la sit_fw-la but_o the_o word_n of_o god_n do_v not_o enforce_v this_o caluinian_a mystery_n nor_o be_v there_o sufficient_a ground_n to_o affirm_v it_o this_o be_v prove_v because_o the_o mystery_n of_o their_o real_a presence_n either_o have_v no_o ground_n in_o scripture_n or_o be_v ground_v on_o these_o word_n of_o the_o institution_n take_v eat_v this_o be_v my_o body_n but_o caluinist_n on_o these_o word_n can_v ground_v the_o incomprehensible_a mystery_n of_o their_o real_a presence_n for_o they_o understand_v these_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n in_o a_o figurative_a sense_n and_o say_v that_o they_o be_v not_o true_a proper_o and_o literal_o now_o a_o mystery_n of_o faith_n can_v be_v ground_v upon_o the_o figurative_a sense_n of_o a_o place_n of_o scripture_n yea_o upon_o mere_a figurative_a construction_n of_o scripture_n to_o obtrude_v unto_o other_o a_o article_n of_o necessary_a belief_n be_v impudence_n as_o say_v s._n augustine_n epist._n 68_o non_fw-la nisi_fw-la impudentiss_fw-la mè_fw-la nititur_fw-la quis_fw-la aliquid_fw-la in_o allegoria_fw-la positum_fw-la pro_fw-la se_fw-la interpretari_fw-la 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think_v that_o the_o mysterye_n be_v consume_v by_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n mutatur_fw-la christ_n ambros._n de_fw-fr initian_n myster_n c._n 9_o non_fw-la hoc_fw-la quod_fw-la natura_fw-la formavit_fw-la sed_fw-la quod_fw-la benedictio_fw-la consecravit_fw-la benedictione_n enim_fw-la ipsa_fw-la natura_fw-la mutatur_fw-la s._n ambrose_n what_o argument_n shall_v we_o bring_v to_o prove_v that_o in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v not_o the_o thing_n which_o nature_n have_v frame_v but_o that_o thing_n which_o benediction_n have_v consecrate_v and_o that_o great_a be_v the_o force_n of_o benediction_n then_o of_o nature_n see_v by_o the_o benediction_n even_o nature_n be_v change_v v._o second_o they_o require_v that_o the_o author_n that_o change_v bread_n into_o christ_n his_o body_n be_v vi_o omnipotent_a &_o consequent_o the_o change_n not_o mere_o significative_a but_o substantial_a vii_o saint_n cyprian_n caro_fw-la cyprian_n cyprian_a de_fw-fr coena_fw-la 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acknowledge_v the_o most_o efficacious_a that_o may_v be_v to_o wit_n the_o word_n not_o of_o man_n but_o of_o god_n s._n ambrose_n â—_o ambrose_n ambros._n de_fw-fr ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la
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into_o another_o substance_n viii_o four_o the_o effect_n of_o this_o transmutation_n teach_v by_o the_o father_n be_v the_o presence_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o christ_n body_n &_o the_o absence_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n bind_v we_o to_o abnegate_n our_o sense_n and_o not_o to_o believe_v what_o we_o seem_v to_o see_v with_o our_o eye_n ix_o theophilact_n matth._n theophilact_n theophilact_n c._n 4._o 26._o matth._n bread_n be_v transelemented_a or_o transform_v by_o a_o ineffable_a operation_n although_o to_o we_o it_o seem_v bread_n because_o we_o be_v weak_a and_o have_v horror_n to_o eat_v raw_a flesh_n especial_o the_o flesh_n of_o man_n for_o this_o reason_n bread_n appear_v but_o in_o essence_n and_o substance_n it_o be_v not_o bread_n saint_n cyrill_n 4._o cyrill_n cyrill_n hieros_n catech._n mystagog_o 4._o come_v not_o therefore_o as_o unto_o simple_a bread_n and_o wine_n for_o it_o be_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n according_a to_o the_o 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ep._n 17._o in_o which_o kind_n be_v the_o minister_n reply_v unto_o these_o express_a &_o pregnant_a testimony_n of_o the_o father_n for_o transubstantiation_n as_o will_v appear_v by_o the_o confutation_n which_o here_o ensue_v ii_o transelement_a the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d transelementation_n say_v the_o minister_n pag._n 421._o prove_v not_o transubstantiation_n for_o in_o transubstantiation_n the_o matter_n be_v destroy_v &_o the_o quantity_n and_o accident_n remain_v &_o in_o transelementation_n the_o matter_n remain_v &_o the_o essential_a &_o accidental_a form_n be_v alter_v answer_n the_o falsehood_n and_o inanity_n of_o this_o shift_n be_v convince_v by_o these_o four_o argument_n which_o show_v transelementation_n to_o import_v the_o same_o as_o transubstantiation_n the_o first_o be_v draw_v from_o the_o notion_n of_o the_o word_n element_n &_o transelementation_n for_o transelementation_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o 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