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A87687 Baptism without bason. Or, Plain Scripture-proof against infant-baptism, I. By way of answer to Mr. Baxter's arguments, and to the exercitations of Mr. Sidenham, teacher to a church a[t] Newcastle, concerning infants baptism: for which that their pretended consequences are from concessions not to be granted, and from Scriptures as mistaken, and absolutely wrested, is clearly discovered. With II. Several questions and answers, positively holding out the minde of Christ in baptizing of believers onely; and that the magistrates may be induced more and more to encourage the preaching thereof in publike. III. A declaration written to the election of grace, who for want of information are of contrary judgment. Written by William Kaye, minister of the Gospel at Stokesley. Kaye, William. 1653 (1653) Wing K32; Thomason E715_13; ESTC R207264 49,935 54

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he_o speak_v unto_o the_o pharisee_n and_o sadducee_n man_n of_o age_n and_o degenerate_a from_o abraham_n faith_n person_n that_o live_v in_o their_o own_o work_n and_o righteousness_n therefore_o he_o call_v they_o a_o generation_n of_o viper_n which_o be_v not_o as_o they_o be_v abraham_n child_n but_o as_o they_o walk_v not_o in_o abraham_n step_n and_o be_v quite_o degenerate_a answ_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o plea_n be_v not_o vain_a as_o mr._n s._n in_o the_o content_n of_o his_o chapter_n pretend_v that_o be_v by_o we_o make_v from_o matth._n 3.8_o 9_o though_o to_o obscure_v the_o light_n that_o therein_o shine_v or_o for_o mr._n s._n to_o light_v his_o candle_n or_o gloss_n or_o interpretation_n to_o darken_v the_o sun-light_n of_o express_a scripture_n be_v labour_n in_o vain_a in_o that_o 1._o i_o say_v that_o matth._n 3.8_o 9_o in_o the_o general_n be_v direct_o against_o infant-baptism_n in_o that_o none_o but_o such_o as_o have_v faith_n and_o repentance_n must_v think_v to_o be_v baptize_v be_v as_o clear_v a_o place_n as_o can_v be_v desire_v or_o plead_v for_o 2._o that_o the_o pretence_n or_o consequence_n from_o circumcision_n from_o this_o of_o mat._n 3.8_o 9_o think_v not_o to_o say_v you_o have_v abraham_n to_o your_o father_n be_v also_o condemn_v it_o appear_v that_o john_n do_v not_o judge_v they_o to_o have_v any_o benefit_n or_o privilege_n as_o be_v abraham_n seed_n according_a to_o the_o law_n rom._n 4.16_o whereby_o abraham_n be_v their_o father_n by_o circumcision_n gen._n 17.5_o 16._o and_o therefore_o john_n apprehend_v the_o pharisee_n and_o sadducee_n as_o mr._n s._n etc._n etc._n do_v to_o style_v themselves_o through_o this_o pretend_a privilege_n from_o abraham_n without_o look_v home_o for_o faith_n and_o repentance_n which_o every_o child_n of_o abraham_n shall_v have_v which_o call_v abraham_n father_n by_o faith_n as_o only_o they_o that_o believe_v aught_o to_o do_v gal._n 3.7_o therefore_o to_o undeceive_v the_o pharisee_n and_o sadducee_n and_o to_o unbottom_v they_o and_o to_o throw_v down_o their_o sandy_a foundation_n that_o john_n in_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o gospel_n may_v be_v downright_a with_o they_o though_o it_o be_v true_a that_o mr._n s._n say_v that_o he_o do_v not_o call_v they_o a_o generation_n of_o viper_n as_o they_o be_v abraham_n seed_n yet_o that_o they_o may_v not_o through_o fleshly_a confidence_n make_v their_o plea_n or_o rest_n upon_o this_o account_n that_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v be_v but_o abraham_n seed_n according_a to_o law_n and_o not_o by_o faith_n he_o tell_v they_o to_o undeceive_v they_o say_v think_v not_o to_o say_v that_o you_o have_v abraham_n to_o your_o father_n as_o that_o you_o shall_v think_v upon_o this_o account_n that_o i_o shall_v baptize_v you_o therefore_o john_n without_o as_o much_o as_o take_v notice_n which_o he_o will_v have_v do_v if_o there_o have_v be_v cause_n of_o any_o legal_a privilege_n they_o have_v by_o 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