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A62668 To receive the Lords Supper, the actual right and duty of all church-members of years not excommunicate made good against Mr. Collins his exceptions against The bar removed, written by the author : and what right the ignorant and scandalous tolerated in the church have to the Lords Supper declared : many thing belonging to that controversie more fully discussed, tending much to the peace and settlement of the church : and also a ful answer to what Mr. Collins hath written in defence of juridical suspension, wherein his pretended arguments from Scripture are examined and confuted : to which is also annexed A brief answer to the Antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders / by John Timson ... Timson, John.; Timson, John. Brief answer to the antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders. 1655 (1655) Wing T1296; ESTC R1970 185,323 400

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unworthiness_n persist_v in_o unto_o obstinacy_n be_v the_o only_a object_n of_o church_n censure_n of_o person_n in_o the_o church_n yet_o all_o actual_a unworthiness_n do_v not_o necessary_o run_v person_n upon_o eat_v and_o drink_v the_o lord_n supper_n unworthy_o in_o the_o apostle_n sense_n there_o be_v no_o personal_a unworthiness_n in_o the_o church_n in_o a_o relative_a sense_n in_o reference_n to_o the_o sacrament_n or_o any_o uth_a ordinance_n but_o the_o careless_a neglect_n thereof_o be_v most_o unworthy_a and_o punishable_a not_o to_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n be_v not_o to_o put_v a_o difference_n between_o common_a bread_n and_o the_o institute_v sign_n set_v a_o part_n by_o word_n and_o prayer_n to_o represent_v the_o death_n of_o christ_n for_o remission_n of_o sin_n examination_n be_v a_o private_a duty_n to_o be_v perform_v between_o god_n and_o the_o conscience_n unto_o a_o profitable_a receive_n have_v a_o special_a eye_n to_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o whole_a 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express_v or_o employ_v he_o deny_v that_o church-membership_a alone_o do_v give_v a_o full_a right_n to_o the_o sacrament_n therefore_o superadde_v knowledge_n faith_n and_o the_o fruit_n of_o holiness_n to_o give_v one_o right_a all_o which_o say_v i_o be_v include_v in_o membership_n and_o his_o superad_n will_v give_v a_o pagan_a right_n he_o affirm_v that_o he_o look_v upon_o all_o church-member_n habitual_o worthy_a from_o their_o interest_n in_o christ_n until_o they_o discover_v the_o contrary_a by_o their_o actual_a offending_n then_o say_v i_o he_o hold_v that_o all_o infant_n be_v habitual_o worthy_a from_o their_o interest_n in_o christ_n and_o common_o fall_v away_o from_o that_o state_n of_o grace_n he_o say_v it_o be_v not_o much_o material_a whether_o the_o corinth_n be_v punish_v for_o habitual_a unworthiness_n or_o no_o and_o yet_o upon_o the_o matter_n that_o the_o whole_a he_o dispute_v against_o he_o say_v the_o unregenerate_a be_v personal_o unworthy_a and_o 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be_v great_o requisite_a which_o yet_o say_v he_o can_v be_v have_v but_o by_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o church_n then_o in_o the_o second_o end_n lest_o as_o it_o be_v wont_a to_o come_v to_o pass_v with_o the_o continual_a company_n of_o the_o evil_a the_o good_a shall_v be_v corrupt_v this_o end_n the_o apostle_n touch_v when_o he_o command_v the_o corinth_n to_o put_v the_o incestuous_a person_n out_o of_o their_o company_n a_o little_a leaven_n say_v he_o corrupt_v the_o whole_a and_o he_o foresee_v herein_o so_o great_a a_o danger_n that_o he_o forbid_v he_o all_o fellowship_n and_o so_o apply_v the_o 11._o verse_n to_o the_o same_o with_o the_o incestuous_a person_n if_o any_o brother_n be_v either_o a_o whoremonger_n or_o a_o idolater_n etc._n etc._n with_o such_o a_o one_o i_o grant_v you_o not_o leave_v so_o much_o as_o to_o eat_v therefore_o you_o may_v clear_o conceive_v that_o calvin_n apply_v that_o particular_a instance_n to_o be_v speak_v of_o all_o other_o the_o apostle_n name_v in_o the_o 11._o verse_n this_o reverend_a author_n will_v have_v none_o debar_v the_o sacrament_n but_o by_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o church_n nor_o have_v any_o excommunicate_a for_o lesser_a sin_n when_o the_o severity_n of_o word_n authoritative_o will_v amend_v they_o but_o when_o they_o grievous_o offend_v the_o church_n they_o ought_v for_o a_o time_n to_o be_v deprive_v of_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o supper_n till_o they_o have_v give_v assurance_n of_o their_o repentance_n his_o ground_n be_v 1_o cor._n 5.5_o thus_o explain_v himself_o for_o against_o the_o corinthian_a paul_n use_v not_o only_o rebuke_v of_o word_n but_o drive_v he_o out_o of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n what_o be_v this_o but_o excommunication_n and_o yet_o mr._n collins_n quote_v this_o very_a place_n to_o prove_v suspension_n distinct_a from_o excommunication_n in_o his_o pag._n 140_o 141._o if_o he_o deal_v thus_o with_o his_o authority_n he_o make_v such_o a_o noise_n 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as_o touch_v this_o reverend_a author_n for_o my_o purpose_n 1._o he_o admit_v of_o no_o other_o proceed_n in_o the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n but_o according_a to_o that_o know_a rule_n matth._n 18.15_o and_o that_o in_o all_o case_n of_o scandal_n and_o open_a ungodliness_n 2._o not_o to_o proceed_v unto_o excommunication_n but_o in_o point_n of_o obstinacy_n persist_v in_o 3._o he_o define_v excommunication_n to_o be_v the_o banish_n of_o a_o grievous_a transgressor_n or_o a_o open_a ungodly_a and_o obstinate_a person_n from_o the_o fellowship_n of_o the_o faithful_a by_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o elder_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n and_o by_o the_o authority_n of_o christ_n and_o by_o the_o holy_a scripture_n and_o then_o say_v when_o the_o church_n pronounce_v of_o any_o that_o they_o be_v not_o godly_a they_o must_v be_v excommunicate_v and_o not_o admit_v unto_o the_o sacrament_n etc._n etc._n in_o his_o 5._o question_n upon_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n 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word_n can_v free_v they_o from_o rigid_a and_o absolute_a separation_n that_o which_o follow_v we_o shall_v have_v the_o better_a satisfaction_n in_o our_o conscience_n while_o god_n be_v our_o witness_n that_o we_o have_v take_v pain_n draw_v loss_n upon_o our_o estate_n stir_v up_o the_o envy_n of_o the_o multitude_n for_o his_o service_n sake_n and_o who_o have_v require_v this_o at_o your_o hand_n answ_n where_o be_v it_o write_v that_o you_o shall_v act_v as_o you_o do_v if_o you_o meet_v with_o suffering_n for_o your_o irregular_a act_n what_o thank_v have_v you_o it_o be_v not_o the_o goodness_n of_o the_o man_n or_o end_n but_o the_o goodness_n of_o the_o cause_n that_o make_v a_o martyr_n and_o bring_v solid_a comfort_n to_o the_o soul_n of_o god_n people_n all_o sect_n be_v apt_a to_o bless_v themselves_o in_o what_o they_o suffer_v by_o contrary_a mind_n but_o this_o and_o the_o rest_n that_o follow_v be_v but_o weak_a and_o beg_v too_o i_o come_v to_o his_o answer_n of_o 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