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A34020	Gospel order revived being an answer to a book lately set forth by ... Increase Mather ... entituled, The order of the gospel, &c ... / by sundry ministers of the gospel in New England.	Colman, Benjamin, 1673-1747.; Pemberton, Ebenezer, 1672-1717.; Woodbridge, Timothy, 1656-1732.; Bradstreet, Simon, 1671-1741.	1700 (1700)	Wing C5399; ESTC W13238	38,537	52

no Wife is a Husband This is worn thred-bare and answered long ago by the Assembly at London and others and sometimes by the Author himself A Minister may be considered under a double Notion as a Minister of C 〈…〉 t or of this or that particular Church In this latter sence they are Relate Correlate and no otherwise Hence if he leaves them he ceases to be their Minister and they cease to be his Flock but still he may be a Minister of Christ and they a Church of Christ And thus in that little Book that is en●it●led The judgment of several Divines of the Congregational way concerning a Pastors Power occasionally to exe●t Ministerial acts in another Church besides that which is his particular Flock the Reverend Author expresses himself after this manner pag. 1. The Ministerial Power which a Pastor has received from the Lord Jesus Christ ●● not so ●o●fined to his particular Flock as that he shall cease to be a Minister when he shall act in the Name of the Lord else where And a little after I am as to this particular fully of the same judgment with the learned Dr. J. Owen in 〈◊〉 judicious Treatise concerning a Gospel Church Pag. 100 101 where he has these words Although we have no concer●●●us in the sig●ent of an indelible Character accompanying sacred Orders yet we do not think the Pastoral Office is such a thing as a man must leave be●●nd him every time he goes from home for my own part ● I did not think my self b●●nd to preach as a Minister authorized in all places and ●● all occasions when I am called thereunto I think I should never preach more in this World Thus Dr. Owen We see then that our Reverend Author and the famous Dr. Owen plainly hold that though there be a Relation to a particular flock yet a Minister is so au●hro●zed by Jesus Christ that he is capable in his Name to perform Ministerial Acts in other places and upon all occasions And were not our Author sincerely of this Opinion we cannot but think he would highly condemn any Minister that should be absent from his Flock four years together upon any service whatsoever ●ure if he be no way capable to act as a Minister of Jesus Christ he is all that while but as a stray Bird idly wandering from its Nest Yet at this time our Author would bear the World in hand that a Minister has no power to act as such but to his particular Flock and therefore quotes the words of the Plat-form chap. 9. sect 7. He that is clearly loosed from his Office Relation to that Church whereof he was a Minister cannot be looked on as an Officer nor perform any act of O 〈…〉 e in any other Church unless he be again called unto Office But a more eminent Assembly of Divines at London have quoted this very Paragraph pag 1●5 and severely but justly answered it as a great ●bs●rdity and contrary to sound Doctrine The answer to the other part of the Question Whether a Minister should be ordained only in the presence of that Church where he is ●●serve ● Will result from what has been already laid down The presence of Christ must be supposed when ever a person is seperated to his Ministry but seeing our Lord Commissions none immediately such must be present as have Power to authorize Commission and give the charge in his Name When ever a Call is given received and accepted whether it be by Words Message or letter both Minister and People are conceived as present face to face But the Circumstances of Times Places Persons Distance c. must determine this matter which as they m●● fall out may sometimes render it both prodent regular and necessar● then its the Voice of Providence for a Min 〈…〉 to be ordained on one Land and to serve in another Q. 14. Is the Practice of the Churches of New-England in granting Letters of Dismission or Recommendation from one Church to another according to Scripture and the Example of other Churches The Reverend Author refers to many Scriptures to prove the Affirmative but not one of them reaches the Question or proves ●● dismission for this end soil to take a person off from being a Member of one Church to be made a Member of another The Epistles or Letters he refers to are all Apo●ta●●cal or Ministerial not the Letters of one Church to another some only excepted which is mentioned as writ by the Brethren but Apol●● on whole behalf they wrote was not a Member of their Church nor do they write to those in Achaia to receive him as a Member but rather as a Minister or as a Christian of eminence and singular goodness Indeed there may be a good use of Letters of Recommendation and especially among strangers and where a Member removes from one Church to another a mutual satisfaction may be laboured after But we cannot but think such Letters frivilous when in the same Town and at two streets distance a Person known over all the Town for an exemplary Conversation prefers anothers Ministry Civility will constrain such persons to acquaint then Ministers of their purposes and the same Christian Civility obliges such a Minister to acquaint the other Pastor if need be to whose Ministry they repair that they have carried themselves well in his Communion and that he hopes they may prove blessings in all other But as for the Brethren We need not go to them to make a second Speech now to ask leave to with-draw and to render an account to every impertinent Talker who thinks the man Married to him and that his bed is broke into or that there 's no just reason for a divorce Moreover some people are forever dissatisfied neither conveniencies of Habitation liking the others Ministry profiting under it or dislike of some Customs and Practices which he would willingly be rid of the light of can satisfy And what must the grieved person do further in this case Why truly he has done his duty and may hear and communicate where God and his own sober Conscience directs him No● ought any Minister of Christ to reject his claim to the Lords Table with him To say no more our Reverend Author having in a former Treatise proved that persons baptized are thereby subjects of Discipline We think they all ought to be accountable to the Society where they are there persons being dismissed by the Providence of God whether they have letters of dismission or not Else by their principles an ordained Minister in London formerly of Communion with a Church in Boston being called to Office in a particular Church and having accepted the Pastoral Care thereof must first send over a Pacquet to New-England for a Letter of dismission And don't you think he would be well imployed Qu. 15 Is not the asserting that a Pastor may administer the Sacrament to another Church besides his own particular Church at the a●fire

enough to set us down resolved against any such thing if we can say there is a silence about it in the Scripture that God has no where commanded it in his word either expresly or by just and necessary consequence it s no Order of his devising Scripture silence about any Tradition gives a full condemnation what ever ●leas men may bring for it as That it is profitable many have been edified by it it is a prudent way to secure the Interest of Religion many wise holy learned Men have pleaded for it and practised it that there is much of decency in it and the thing it self is no waye harm●u● A●l this is fully answered with that one word God has spoke nothing about it Heb. 7. 4. It never entered into his h●art to enjoyn it Jer. 7. 31. Thus he This being publickly practised and printed so long a go by so eminent a Minister and never since contradicted we take it for granted that none have any thing to say against it And we are thankful to him for furnishing us with a Doctrine so fully laid down to bear off the Institutions Traditions and Impositions that men would lay upon us But it is high time now to consider the Questions which the Reverend Author propounds and the Answer he gives to each of them In which attempt we shall offer no other Apology for our brevity save that our Author himself 〈…〉 ight have been as brief and yet full as clear and 〈…〉 iv● Gospel Order Revived c. THe two first Questions might have been wholy spared yet may serve as a good Introduction to others of a●● ill aspect Quest 1. Whether particular Churches ought to consist of Saints and true Believers in Christ It is granted that the matter of a particular Church for the Question is not stated with reference to the Catholick is visible Saints And tho' the Answer is not given in the words yet we would charitably hope his sense is the same with the united Ministers in London That none shall be admitted as members in order to Communion in all the special Ordinances of the Gospel but such as are knowing and sound in the fundamental Doctrines of the Christian Religion without scandal in their Lives and to a judgment regulated by the word of God are Persons of visible Godliness and honesty credibly professing cordial subjection to Jesus Christ Had our Reverend Author only said thus much and indeed more is needless he had saved us the labour of any Reflections on this part of his Essay But there is one passage in p. 15 which we cannot but except against A Scripture saith he which has respect in the times of the Gospel severely rebukes those Ministers which shall bring men that are uncircumcised in bear● unregenerate persons into the sanctuary into the Church of God to eat the Bread and drink the Blood which 〈…〉 y that are there partake o● Ezek. 44. 7 9. A hard saying and w●o can ●ear it The Text is here mangled and the principal things left out What God has joyned our Reverend Author has seperated to drive on his design The Text saith Uncircumcised in heart and uncircumcised in flesh but here we have it only uncircumcise in hea●t interpreted unregenerate persons What a rebuke is this to the best of Ministers because forsooth they are not heart searchers and dare not invade the prerogative of God Did the Reverend Author or the Church with him never admit any un 〈…〉 ●erate Person to communion with them He will not dare to pretend to it and therefore the rebuke is to himself We know our Lord Jesus Christ admitted Judas uncircumcised in heart an unregenerate Person to holy things and in the purest Ages of the Church there were Hypocrites crept in many of whom turned Apostates Nay our Author is so sensible of this that p. 19. he quotes the opinion of the Reverend M. Co●ton That its better to admit diverse Hypocrites than to keep out one sincere Child of God It is obvious then that Hypocrites may be admitted and yet the Minister incur neither the rebukes of Conscience or of this Scripture nay he may be approved of God as doing his Duty though Hypocrisie may too well consist with sufficient Knowledge found belief a blameless Life a credible Profession c. To conclude It s very observeable the Reverend Author closes this first Enquiry by saying That the Churches here are free to admit those into their communion who are thus qualified We marvel then his Zeal is not stirred to rebuke them afresh But what will the Reader think if we should make an Apology after all for the Reverend Author and assure him he means no more than that Ministers ought not to admit known Infidels or Prophane for for his part he pretends not to know mens hearts We only can intreat the Reader not to rebuke the Author too severely for his inconsistency for he may mean well and all parties are agreed Unless he should imagine himself attacqued by the Reverend Author of the Doctrine of instituted Churches Q 2. Whether there ought not to be a Tryal of Persons concerning their qualifications and fitness for Church communion before they are admitted thereunto We shall not here examine the force of the Authors arguments whether they unresistably conclude or not and whether the consequence is good from the tryal of the Apostles the Porters at the Temple or the 12 Angels at the Gates of the Mystical Jerusalem to the tryal of Church Members It suffices that the Reverend Author has modestly stated this Truth and cited us to a merciful Bar the judgment seat of a rational Charity where the Judge avoids severity and the tryal is managed with abundant tenderness the bruised Reed is not broken nor the smoaking flax quenched the tender Lambs find the kind Shepherds Arms to fold them and a gentle carriage in his bosom This is indeed the part of the good shepherd and we could now gladly commit our selves to the Reverend Authors Pastoral care So many good words remove all jealousie of a rigid Tryal But alas the Clouds return upon us and a black doubt is started as follows Q 3 Whether are not the Brethren and not the Elders of the Church only to judge concerning the qualifications and fitness of those who art admitted into their Communion The Reverend Author allows there may be a difference of apprehension as to this point and yet no breach of Union We think so too and therefore as we continue to honour the Person though we expose his opinion so we ●o●● the negative will not dele●ve the popular cry Oh Apostacy Apostacy The difference as the Reverend Author tells us is between the Brethren of the Presbyterian and the Congregational way the former giving this power only to the Eldership the latter joyning the fraternity with them He takes up for the latter but whether he proves it the world may see when we have considered his