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or_o priest_n in_o that_o sense_n that_o these_o office_n pertain_v unto_o jesus_n christ_n dissolve_v jesus_n deni_v jesus_n christ_n to_o have_v come_v in_o the_o flesh_n who_o come_v to_o be_v our_o only_a master-teacher_n according_a 8._o to_o the_o manifest_a text_n of_o scripture_n which_o have_v teach_v we_o all_o thing_n likewise_o our_o only_a spiritual_a king_n &_o eternal_a 25._o and_o high_a priest_n who_o office_n both_o kingly_a and_o priestly_a be_v confirm_v to_o he_o by_o a_o oath_n pass_v 16._o not_o from_o he_o unto_o any_o other_o in_o succession_n but_o remain_v always_o the_o only_a mighty_a prince_n king_n of_o king_n and_o lord_n of_o lord_n whoesoever_o therefore_o derogate_v from_o christ_n any_o part_n of_o these_o dignity_n &_o office_n deni_v jesus_n christ_n come_v in_o the_o flesh_n and_o so_o do_v the_o popish_a catholic_n or_o papist_n by_o their_o doctrine_n of_o tradition_n pope_n authority_n sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n and_o such_o like_a nay_o 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oppugn_v the_o very_a word_n of_o luther_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v defen_n verb_n caenae_n accipite_fw-la etc._n etc._n be_v these_o quare_fw-la in_o superioribus_fw-la dixi_fw-la hunc_fw-la spiritum_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la bonum_fw-la neque_fw-la per_fw-la istos_fw-la fanaticos_fw-la homines_fw-la quicquam_fw-la boni_fw-la machinari_fw-la quanquam_fw-la existimem_fw-la hos_fw-la concionatores_fw-la contra_fw-la quos_fw-la haec_fw-la scribuntur_fw-la nondum_fw-la mali_fw-la quicquam_fw-la in_o animo_fw-la habere_fw-la sed_fw-la bene_fw-la deus_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la svi_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la compotes_fw-la &_o continentes_fw-la à _fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o captivi_fw-la tenentur_fw-la quare_fw-la eye_n nimium_fw-la sidendum_fw-la non_fw-la ect_fw-la nam_fw-la spiritus_fw-la qui_fw-la christi_fw-la carnem_fw-la dissoluit_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la à _fw-la deo_fw-la inquit_fw-la joannes_n idqque_fw-la probam_fw-la spirituum_fw-la vult_fw-la esse_fw-la hic_fw-la spiritus_fw-la 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the_o flesh_n be_v remit_v in_o baptism_n not_o so_o that_o it_o be_v not_o but_o so_o that_o it_o be_v not_o impute_v to_o sin_n and_o albeit_o the_o guilt_n thereof_o be_v loose_v yet_o it_o remain_v until_o all_o our_o infirmity_n behealed_a the_o renew_v of_o the_o inward_a man_n profit_v from_o day_n to_o day_n when_o the_o outward_a man_n shall_v have_v put_v on_o incorruption_n for_o it_o remain_v not_o substantial_o as_o a_o body_n or_o a_o spirit_n but_o it_o be_v a_o certain_a affection_n of_o evil_a qualitic_a as_o a_o sickness_n these_o word_n declare_v that_o concupiscence_n be_v a_o affection_n of_o evil_a quality_n which_o be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v as_o sin_n remane_v in_o the_o regenerate_a although_o it_o be_v not_o impute_v to_o they_o as_o sin_n for_o that_o if_o they_o 〈◊〉_d against_o it_o it_o shall_v not_o prevaill_n against_o they_o to_o condemn_v they_o a_o sin_n not_o impute_v be_v a_o sin_n of_o his_o own_o nature_n the_o sin_n of_o god_n elect_v be_v not_o 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