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A54844 The new discoverer discover'd by way of answer to Mr. Baxter his pretended discovery of the Grotian religion, with the several subjects therein conteined : to which is added an appendix conteining a rejoynder to diverse things both in the Key for Catholicks, and in the book of disputations about church-government and worship, &c. : together with a letter to the learned and reverend Dr. Heylin, concerning Mr. Hickman and Mr. Bashaw / by Thomas Pierce ... Pierce, Thomas, 1622-1691. 1659 (1659) Wing P2186; ESTC R44 268,193 354

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pretend_v to_o any_o more_o for_o obedience_n due_a from_o all_o secular_o unto_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o church_n he_o cite_v the_o 70._o the_o ibid._n p._n 70._o augustan_n confession_n for_o the_o want_n of_o reformation_n in_o the_o presbyterian_a church_n he_o cite_v the_o 73._o the_o ibid._n p._n 73._o confession_n of_o mr._n rivet_n for_o the_o admit_v of_o such_o word_n as_o transelementation_n and_o transubstantiation_n with_o their_o convenient_a explication_n in_o order_n to_o peace_n and_o reconcilement_n 77._o reconcilement_n ibid._n p._n 77._o he_o cite_v modrevi●s_a and_o our_o king_n james._n for_o the_o protestant_n return_v to_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n upon_o condition_n that_o that_o church_n will_v also_o return_v unto_o the_o primitive_a he_o cite_v the_o prayer_n and_o protestation_n of_o learned_a zanchy_a 157._o ab_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la rom●nå_n non_fw-la ali●_n discessimus_fw-la animo_fw-la quàm_fw-la ut_fw-la si_fw-la correcta_fw-la ad_fw-la priorem_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la formam_fw-la redeat_fw-la nos_fw-la quoque_fw-la ad_fw-la illam_fw-la revertamu●_n &_o communionem_fw-la cum_fw-la illâ_fw-la in_o suis_fw-la porrò_fw-la coetibus_fw-la habeamus_fw-la apud_fw-la grot._n p._n 14._o apud_fw-la ipsum_fw-la zanch._n in_o confess_v art_n 19_o p._n 157._o who_o notwithstanding_o his_o be_v a_o presbyterian_a conclude_v his_o
pr●terea_fw-la tollantur_fw-la ea_fw-la etc._n etc._n condition_n or_o proviso_n that_o reformation_n shall_v be_v make_v 5._o he_o condition_n be_v that_o this_o be_v do_v etc._n do_v quod_fw-la si_fw-la curâ_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la &_o regum_fw-la tollantur_fw-la ea_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o king_n and_o bishop_n in_o their_o respective_a place_n of_o jurisdiction_n without_o take_v notice_n of_o the_o pope_n who_o consent_n he_o think_v needless_a as_o well_o as_o impossible_a to_o be_v have_v 6._o he_o add'_v the_o chief_a thing_n which_o you_o be_v please_v to_o take_v no_o no●ice_n of_o unto_o your_o reader_n hope_v they_o will_v not_o take_v the_o pain_n to_o examine_v grotius_n in_o his_o original_a ibid._n original_a nec_fw-la aliud_fw-la desiderat_fw-la confessio_fw-la augustana_n ibid._n ibid._n that_o the_o augustan_n cenfession_n do_v not_o desire_v any_o thing_n else_o in_o order_n to_o a_o closure_n of_o both_o the_o church_n he_o add'_v the_o profession_n not_o only_o of_o zanchie_a a_o single_a protestant_n but_o of_o the_o protestant_a prince_n and_o city_n de_fw-fr nullo_n articulo_fw-la fidei_fw-la dissentire_fw-la se_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la catholicâ_fw-la sed_fw-la paucos_fw-la abusus_fw-la à_fw-la se_fw-la omitti_fw-la qui_fw-la novi_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o contra_fw-la voluntatem_fw-la canonum_fw-la vitio_fw-la temporum_fw-la recepti_fw-la you_o see_v that_o grotius_n have_v express_v a_o lesser_a propensity_n to_o the_o papist_n than_o the_o protestant_n who_o adhere_v unto_o the_o augustan_n confession_n 15._o et_fw-la optima_fw-la est_fw-la &_o auctoritate_fw-la maximâ_fw-la quip_n in_o regnis_fw-la aliquot_fw-la etc._n etc._n discuss_v p._n 15._o which_o of_o all_o the_o protestant_a confession_n be_v judge_v by_o grotius_n to_o be_v the_o best_a and_o of_o the_o great_a authority_n as_o be_v receive_v in_o some_o kingdom_n and_o in_o some_o of_o the_o greaté_v principality_n and_o in_o diverse_a free_a city_n or_o commonwealth_n bucer_n be_v one_o of_o that_o synod_n who_o you_o know_v be_v assist_v to_o our_o true_a english_a reformation_n now_o what_o a_o hard_a hap_n be_v this_o that_o that_o must_v be_v popery_n in_o grotius_n which_o be_v not_o such_o in_o any_o one_o else_o let_v all_o the_o kingdom_n and_o commonwealth_n which_o embrace_v the_o augustan_n confession_n be_v reckon_v papistical_a as_o well_o as_o grotius_n or_o else_o let_v grotius_n be_v a_o protestant_n as_o well_o as_o them_o but_o you_o be_v implacable_a to_o grotius_n who_o must_v be_v therefore_o what_o you_o will_v have_v he_o rather_o than_o want_v a_o staff_n to_o beat_v that_o dead_a lion_n who_o can_v less_o resist_v you_o than_o a_o live_v dog_n you_o be_v resolve_v to_o call_v it_o 37._o it_o this_o you_o do_v in_o your_o c●et_fw-la relig._n p._n 37._o his_o way_n to_o peace_n au●_n per_fw-la papae_fw-la eximiè_fw-la beni_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la aut_fw-la concilium_fw-la generale_fw-mi etc._n etc._n vot_o pro_fw-la pace_n p._n 9_o which_o your_o eye_n have_v make_v your_o conscience_n witness_n be_v the_o way_n of_o some_o other_o pacific_a person_n do_v you_o not_o know_v the_o true_a english_a of_o vidi_fw-la eos_fw-la in_o id_fw-la incumbere_fw-la omnes_fw-la and_o again_o eos_fw-la sentire_fw-la ineundas_fw-la vias_fw-la beside_o of_o 9_o of_o eas_fw-la autem_fw-la esse_fw-la tres._n ●ot_n p._n 9_o three_o way_n you_o name_v but_o two_o 1._o the_o authority_n of_o a_o pope_n extreme_o good_a 2._o or_o a_o general_n council_n right_o call_v during_o the_o vacancy_n of_o the_o popedom_n which_o late_a word_n you_o leave_v out_o 3._o or_o the_o conference_n of_o king_n direct_v by_o the_o bishop_n with_o that_o intent_n that_o the_o result_n of_o their_o thought_n may_v be_v bring_v to_o the_o see_v of_o rome_n as_o nothing_o else_o but_o a_o coagulum_fw-la a_o kind_n of_o cement_n and_o mean_n of_o concord_n this_o whole_a three_o way_n you_o will_v not_o mention_v sect._n 13._o you_o object_n against_o grotius_n 185._o discuss_v p._n 185._o that_o in_o interpret_n place_n of_o scripture_n he_o profess_v he_o will_v not_o cross_v the_o rule_n which_o be_v deliver_v by_o himself_o and_o by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n p._n 386_o but_o you_o name_v not_o the_o rule_n nor_o direct_v your_o reader_n where_o to_o find_v it_o if_o you_o know_v it_o not_o yourself_o why_o will_v you_o vilify_v you_o know_v not_o what_o and_o if_o you_o want_v no_o knowledge_n of_o it_o why_o will_v you_o argue_v against_o your_o knowledge_n why_o will_v you_o brand_v he_o as_o a_o papist_n for_o adhere_v to_o a_o rule_n which_o be_v the_o rule_n of_o the_o protestant_n as_o well_o as_o papist_n i_o will_v convince_v you_o of_o your_o rashness_n from_o whatsoever_o principle_n it_o issue_v out_o by_o tell_v your_o reader_n the_o very_a rule_n of_o which_o you_o either_o be_v ignorant_a or_o else_o dissemble_v your_o understanding_n it_o be_v 30._o be_v regula_n prudentissima_fw-la ejus_fw-la synodi_fw-la de_fw-la non_fw-la interpretandâ_fw-la scripturâ_fw-la contra_fw-la unanimem_fw-la consensum_fw-la patrum_fw-la etc._n etc._n discuss_v p._n 18●_n lin_v 30._o the_o most_o prudent_a and_o protestant_a rule_n of_o not_o interpret_n scripture_n against_o the_o full_a and_o unanimous_a consent_n of_o father_n be_v you_o so_o near_o to_o the_o socinian_o as_o to_o decry_v such_o rule_n as_o these_o o●_n be_v every_o thing_n popish_a for_o be_v approve_v by_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n go_v to_o sir_n go_z to_z i_o understand_v you_o better_o and_o better_o the_o better_a to_o make_v you_o understand_v yourself_o i_o be_o to_o mind_v you_o of_o the_o stile_n which_o grotius_n speak_v in_o ibid._n in_o ibid._n nihil_fw-la fecisset_fw-la grotius_n ne_fw-la contra_fw-la synodum_fw-la quidem_fw-la tridentinam_fw-la if_o you_o shall_v say_v of_o yourself_o in_o some_o particular_a that_o in_o this_o you_o do_v nothing_o contrary_a even_o to_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n will_v 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