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A01309 A defense of the sincere and true translations of the holie Scriptures into the English tong against the manifolde cauils, friuolous quarels, and impudent slaunders of Gregorie Martin, one of the readers of popish diuinitie in the trayterous Seminarie of Rhemes. By William Fvlke D. in Diuinitie, and M. of Pembroke haule in Cambridge. Wherevnto is added a briefe confutation of all such quarrels & cauils, as haue bene of late vttered by diuerse papistes in their English pamphlets, against the writings of the saide William Fvlke. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1583 (1583) STC 11430.5; ESTC S102715 542,090 704

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than_o a_o good_a subject_n will_v call_v his_o lawful_a prince_n a_o tyrant_n do_v he_o not_o here_o tell_v we_o that_o which_o we_o will_v have_v to_o wit_n that_o we_o may_v not_o speak_v or_o translate_v according_a to_o the_o original_a property_n of_o the_o word_n but_o according_a to_o the_o common_a usual_a and_o accustom_a signification_n thereof_o as_o we_o may_v not_o translate_v phalaris_n tyrannus_fw-la phalaris_n the_o king_n as_o sometime_o tyrannus_n do_v signify_v and_o in_o ancient_a author_n do_v signify_v but_o phalaris_n the_o tyrant_n as_o now_o this_o word_n tyrannus_fw-la be_v common_o take_v and_o understand_v even_o so_o we_o may_v idolis_fw-la not_o now_o translate_v my_o child_n keep_v you_o self_n from_o image_n 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o word_n may_v and_o do_v sometime_o signify_v according_a 5._o to_o the_o original_a property_n thereof_o but_o we_o must_v translate_v keep_v yourselves_o from_o idol_n according_a to_o the_o common_a use_n and_o signification_n 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mean_v not_o false_o count_v worthy_a but_o worthy_a in_o deed_n as_o when_o it_o be_v say_v that_o abraham_n be_v repute_v just_a we_o acknowledge_v that_o he_o be_v true_o so_o repute_v and_o that_o he_o be_v just_a in_o deed_n but_o where_o you_o appeal_v to_o our_o conscience_n whether_o to_o be_v count_v worthy_a and_o to_o be_v worthy_a and_o to_o deserve_v and_o to_o merit_n be_v not_o all_o one_o i_o answer_v you_o plain_o and_o accord_a to_o my_o conscience_n they_o be_v not_o but_o even_o as_o abraham_n be_v repute_v just_a and_o be_v just_a in_o deed_n not_o by_o desert_n but_o by_o faith_n so_o in_o those_o three_o text_n the_o faithful_a be_v count_v worthy_a and_o be_v worthy_a in_o deed_n not_o by_o their_o merit_n and_o desert_n but_o for_o jesus_n christ_n sake_n for_o herein_o your_o heresy_n be_v great_o deceive_v to_o imagine_v that_o he_o which_o be_v just_a by_o christ_n by_o faith_n or_o by_o imputation_n be_v not_o true_o just_a or_o not_o just_a in_o deed_n 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translate_v thus_o that_o you_o may_v be_v make_v worthy_a and_o so_o be_v worthy_a of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n for_o which_o also_o you_o suffer_v you_o know_v the_o case_n be_v like_a in_o both_o place_n and_o in_o the_o greek_a doctor_n you_o special_o shall_v know_v by_o your_o ostentation_n of_o read_v they_o in_o greek_a that_o they_o according_a to_o this_o use_n of_o holy_a scripture_n very_o often_o use_v also_o this_o word_n both_o active_o and_o passive_o to_o make_v 〈◊〉_d worthy_a and_o to_o be_v make_v or_o to_o be_v worthy_a see_v the_o greek_a liturgy_n fulk_n 15._o they_o must_v needs_o be_v worthy_a who_o god_n make_v worthy_a but_o then_o be_v they_o not_o worthy_a by_o their_o merit_n or_o desert_n but_o by_o his_o grace_n in_o jesus_n christ_n &_o so_o our_o translator_n mean_v when_o they_o say_v 2._o thess._n 1._o 11._o that_o our_o god_n may_v make_v you_o worthy_a of_o this_o call_n although_o the_o clear_a translation_n have_v be_v that_o god_n may_v account_v you_o worthy_a as_o the_o vulgar_a latin_a have_v ut_fw-la dignetur_fw-la for_o dignor_fw-la be_v not_o to_o make_v worthy_a but_o to_o vouchsafe_v or_o to_o account_v worthy_a wherefore_o you_o do_v vain_o here_o snatch_v at_o a_o word_n contrary_a to_o the_o meaning_n both_o of_o the_o translator_n and_o of_o the_o text_n for_o those_o who_o god_n make_v worthy_a be_v not_o worthy_a by_o their_o desert_n but_o by_o his_o grace_n accept_v they_o how_o the_o greek_a doctor_n use_v the_o word_n it_o be_v not_o now_o the_o question_n but_o how_o it_o signify_v in_o the_o scripture_n although_o i_o see_v not_o how_o you_o prove_v that_o the_o doctor_n use_v it_o to_o make_v worthy_a or_o to_o be_v make_v worthy_a by_o desert_n mart._n 16._o which_o saint_n chrysostome_n to_o put_v all_o out_o 〈◊〉_d of_o doubt_n explicate_v thus_o in_o other_o word_n that_o he_o make_v we_o worthy_a of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n ser._n 1._o de_fw-la orando_fw-la deo_fw-la and_o upon_o the_o epistle_n to_o titus_n cap._n 3._o in_o the_o same_o sense_n passive_o god_n grant_v we_o may_v all_o be_v make_v worthy_a 〈◊〉_d or_o be_v worthy_a of_o the_o good_a thing_n promise_v to_o they_o that_o love_v he_o and_o in_o a_o other_o place_n of_o the_o say_v doctor_n it_o must_v needs_o signify_v to_o be_v worthy_a as_o when_o he_o say_v in_o colos_n 1._o no_o man_n live_v such_o a_o trade_n of_o life_n that_o he_o be_v worthy_a 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o kingdom_n but_o all_o be_v his_o gift_n for_o to_o say_v thus_o no_o man_n so_o live_v that_o he_o can_v be_v count_v worthy_a of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v false_a be_v against_o the_o protestant_n own_o opinion_n which_o say_v they_o be_v count_v worthy_a that_o be_v not_o again_o to_o say_v no_o man_n so_o live_v that_o he_o can_v be_v make_v worthy_a be_v false_a because_o god_n can_v make_v the_o worst_a man_n worthy_a it_o remain_v then_o to_o say_v no_o man_n so_o live_v that_o he_o be_v worthy_a which_o a_o little_a before_o he_o declare_v thus_o no_o man_n by_o his_o own_o proper_a 〈◊〉_d merit_n obtain_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n that_o be_v as_o his_o own_o and_o of_o himself_o without_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n and_o yet_o we_o must_v show_v further_a out_o of_o the_o scripture_n that_o god_n make_v we_o worthy_a and_o so_o we_o be_v in_o deed_n worthy_a and_o here_o also_o we_o must_v convince_v you_o of_o false_a and_o partial_a interpretation_n fulk_n 16._o saint_n chrysostome_n put_v not_o the_o matter_n any_o whit_n out_o of_o doubt_n for_o your_o side_n for_o he_o do_v not_o expound_v this_o text_n of_o 2._o thess._n 1._o but_o only_o in_o the_o late_a end_n of_o his_o sermon_n pray_v that_o god_n have_v mercy_n upon_o we_o all_o will_v make_v we_o worthy_a of_o his_o kingdom_n where_o you_o may_v have_v see_v if_o you_o have_v not_o be_v blind_a with_o frowardness_n that_o god_n make_v we_o worthy_a by_o his_o mercy_n not_o by_o our_o merit_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o his_o prayer_n upon_o the_o 3._o to_o titus_n be_v take_v to_o be_v make_v worthy_a rather_o than_o to_o be_v account_v worthy_a you_o have_v no_o proof_n but_o your_o own_o authority_n although_o for_o god_n to_o make_v worthy_a by_o his_o mercy_n &_o to_o account_v worthy_a be_v all_o one_o in_o effect_n the_o three_o place_n in_o epist._n ad_fw-la col._n cap._n 1._o be_v altogether_o against_o you_o where_o he_o say_v no_o man_n live_v such_o a_o trade_n of_o life_n that_o he_o may_v be_v judge_v or_o account_v worthy_a of_o that_o kingdom_n but_o all_o be_v the_o gift_n of_o god_n be_v not_o his_o meaning_n plain_a that_o no_o man_n can_v be_v account_v worthy_a by_o work_n or_o merit_n but_o altogether_o by_o the_o grace_n and_o gift_n of_o god_n with_o this_o distinction_n therefore_o which_o be_v plain_a even_o by_o those_o word_n which_o you_o cite_v that_o chrysostome_n make_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o any_o inconvenience_n may_v signify_v in_o this_o place_n to_o be_v account_v worthy_a no_o man_n by_o his_o own_o proper_a merit_n obtain_v the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n say_v he_o but_o even_o as_o a_o lot_n be_v rather_o by_o hap_n &_o chance_n so_o it_o be_v here_o mean_v that_o god_n give_v his_o kingdom_n no_o more_o according_a to_o man_n desert_n than_o lot_n do_v fall_v to_o man_n by_o chance_n which_o yet_o god_n dispose_v as_o it_o please_v he_o final_o the_o whole_a discourse_n of_o the_o doctor_n be_v against_o man_n merit_n use_v the_o word_n in_o the_o same_o place_n so_o often_o of_o god_n dignation_n vouchsafe_v or_o account_v worthy_a you_o have_v great_a scarcity_n of_o example_n out_o of_o the_o doctor_n that_o bring_v this_o place_n to_o prove_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o be_v make_v worthy_a by_o merit_n and_o not_o by_o mere_a mercy_n mart._n 17._o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o pray_v you_o what_o do_v it_o signify_v ●_o you_o must_v answer_v that_o it_o signify_v not_o only_o meet_v but_o also_o worthy_a for_o so_o beza_n reach_v you_o and_o so_o you_o 〈◊〉_d translate_v mat._n 3._o 11._o &_o cap._n 8._o &_o 1_o cor._n 15._o 9_o i_o be_o not_o worthy_a in_o all_o three_o place_n and_o why_o i_o pray_v you_o do_v you_o not_o likewise_o follow_v the_o old_a latin_a interpreter_n one_o step_n further_o say_v give_v thanks_n to_o god_n the_o father_n that_o have_v make_v we_o worthy_a but_o translate_n rather_o thus_o 12._o which_o have_v make_v we_o meet_v to_o be_v partaker_n of_o the_o inheritance_n of_o the_o saint_n in_o light_n here_o be_v the_o place_n where_o you_o shall_v have_v
publican_n justify_v only_o by_o remission_n 7._o of_o his_o sin_n and_o of_o the_o harlot_n save_v by_o faith_n which_o he_o use_v do_v plain_o declare_v and_o yet_o sanctification_n and_o the_o fruit_n of_o good_a life_n be_v not_o exclude_v from_o the_o person_n justify_v and_o save_v but_o only_o merit_v or_o desert_n of_o work_n according_a to_o which_o as_o the_o same_o chrysostome_n say_v in_o ep_n col._n 1._o we_o must_v say_v we_o be_v unprofitable_a servant_n when_o we_o have_v do_v all_o that_o be_v command_v us._n but_o this_o be_v no_o place_n to_o handle_v controversy_n of_o religion_n but_o translation_n of_o the_o scripture_n the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d except_o you_o bring_v we_o better_o evidence_n than_o yet_o we_o see_v any_o in_o all_o place_n where_o we_o read_v it_o we_o may_v translate_v it_o dignari_fw-la which_o be_v to_o vouchsafe_v or_o account_v worthy_a mart._n 19_o thus_o we_o see_v how_o the_o holy_a scripture_n use_v equivalent_a word_n to_o signify_v merit_n which_o you_o suppress_v as_o much_o as_o you_o can_v so_o likewise_o we_o may_v tell_v you_o of_o other_o word_n and_o phrase_n that_o do_v plain_o import_v and_o signify_v merit_n as_o when_o it_o be_v say_v ecclesiastici_fw-la 16._o every_o man_n shall_v find_v according_a to_o his_o work_n budee_fw-mi both_o your_o master_n 〈◊〉_d and_o we_o in_o the_o greek_a tongue_n tell_v we_o that_o the_o greek_a word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o find_v be_v propre_o to_o receyve_v for_o that_o which_o a_o man_n have_v give_v or_o labour_v and_o to_o require_v you_o with_o some_o profane_a authority_n because_o you_o delight_n much_o in_o that_o kind_n the_o whole_a oration_n of_o demosthenes_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d will_v tell_v you_o the_o same_o now_o to_o receyve_v for_o that_o which_o a_o man_n have_v labour_v or_o wrought_v what_o do_v it_o else_o presuppose_v but_o merit_n and_o desert_n 22._o it_o be_v a_o common_a phrase_n of_o the_o scripture_n 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signification_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v to_o deserve_v bring_v example_n therefore_o out_o of_o demosthenes_n oration_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o i_o pray_v you_o do_v our_o say_a master_n affirm_v this_o to_o be_v the_o only_a signification_n of_o that_o verb_n where_o he_o bring_v you_o the_o example_n out_o of_o gregory_n of_o saul_n which_o seek_v his_o father_n ass_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d find_v a_o kingdom_n do_v he_o mean_v that_o by_o seek_v his_o father_n ass_n he_o deserve_v a_o kingdom_n again_o the_o example_n he_o bring_v out_o of_o saint_n luke_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d thou_o have_v find_v favour_n or_o grace_n with_o god_n do_v he_o understande_v that_o the_o virgin_n marie_n deserve_v the_o grace_n of_o god_n but_o you_o object_n that_o it_o be_v a_o common_a phrase_n of_o the_o scripture_n that_o god_n will_v judge_v or_o reward_v or_o repay_v to_o every_o man_n according_a to_o his_o work_n it_o be_v true_a but_o not_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sometime_o gladius_n &_o sometime_o en●i●_n it_o be_v no_o fault_n no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v in_o we_o to_o use_v the_o word_n justice_n and_o righteousness_n work_v and_o deed_n faith_n and_o belief_n trust_n and_o confidence_n etc._n etc._n and_o you_o yourselves_o in_o such_o word_n do_v often_o use_v the_o same_o liberty_n mart._n 21._o but_o will_v you_o not_o yet_o see_v merit_n and_o meritorious_a work_n in_o the_o scripture_n i_o marvel_v your_o skill_n in_o the_o greek_a teach_v you_o nothing_o in_o this_o point_n s._n john_n say_v look_v 8._o to_o yourselves_o that_o you_o lose_v not_o the_o thing_n which_o you_o have_v wrought_v but_o that_o you_o may_v receive_v a_o full_a reward_n i_o think_v in_o these_o word_n the_o equivalent_a of_o merit_n be_v easy_o see_v of_o any_o man_n that_o be_v not_o wilful_o blind_a but_o you_o shall_v see_v 〈◊〉_d further_o than_o the_o common_a sort_n for_o you_o know_v that_o the_o greek_a here_o signify_v not_o 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far_o more_o than_o walk_v humble_o and_o which_o be_v whole_o suppress_v by_o so_o translate_n see_v the_o psalm_n 34._o v._n 14._o ps._n 37._o v._n 7._o ps._n 41._o v._n 10._o where_o the_o prophet_n 〈◊〉_d use_v many_o word_n and_o speech_n to_o express_v sorrowful_a penance_n and_o for_o that_o which_o in_o latin_a be_v always_o contristatus_fw-la in_o greek_a a_o word_n more_o significant_a in_o hebrew_n it_o be_v the_o same_o kind_n of_o word_n that_o they_o translate_v humble_o whereas_o in_o deed_n this_o word_n have_v no_o signification_n of_o humility_n proper_o no_o not_o of_o that_o humility_n i_o mean_v which_o be_v rather_o to_o be_v call_v humiliation_n or_o affliction_n as_o the_o greek_a word_n imply_v but_o it_o signify_v proper_o the_o very_a 〈◊〉_d manner_n countenance_n gesture_n habit_n of_o a_o pensive_a or_o sorlorne_a man_n &_o if_o they_o will_v say_v that_o they_o so_o translate_v it_o in_o other_o place_n the_o more_o be_v their_o fault_n that_o know_v the_o 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