Selected quad for the lemma: scripture_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
scripture_n	according_a	church_n	rule_n	4,531	5	7.0483	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A00793	The answere vnto the nine points of controuersy, proposed by our late soueraygne (of famous memory) vnto M. Fisher of the Society of Iesus And the reioynder vnto the reply of D. Francis VVhite minister. With the picture of the sayd minister, or censure of his writings prefixed.	Fisher, John, 1569-1641.; Floyd, John, 1572-1649.	1626 (1626)	STC 10911; ESTC S102112	538,202	656

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in_o baptism_n the_o minister_n say_v pag._n 302._o that_o it_o be_v

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not_o have_v do_v have_v he_o not_o know_v they_o appellant_n they_o the_o minister_n pag._n 314._o lin_v 12._o say_v this_o place_n be_v understand_v not_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o nature_n but_o of_o a_o angel_n by_o type_n answer_n we_o must_v understand_v the_o word_n of_o god_n in_o the_o literal_a sense_n except_o we_o can_v clear_o demonstrate_v by_o scripture_n the_o literal_a sense_n to_o be_v absurd_a and_o this_o obligation_n do_v more_o special_o lie_v upon_o protestant_n who_o from_o perpetual_a tradition_n appeal_v unto_o scripture_n understand_v by_o exact_a conference_n of_o place_n as_o unto_o the_o last_o and_o supreme_a judge_n but_o you_o bring_v not_o one_o word_n of_o scripture_n to_o prove_v that_o in_o this_o place_n a_o angel_n by_o nature_n can_v be_v understand_v therefore_o you_o run_v to_o type_n and_o tropical_a sense_n without_o warrant_n of_o scripture_n by_o which_o yet_o you_o pretend_v you_o will_v be_v final_o try_v be_v you_o not_o then_o a_o 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angel_n which_o show_v that_o we_o live_v in_o the_o sight_n of_o angel_n &_o that_o they_o behold_v what_o we_o do_v and_o hear_v what_o we_o say_v even_o in_o our_o heart_n but_o as_o the_o same_o scripture_n luc._n 20.36_o math._n 22.30_o aver_v the_o saint_n be_v like_a unto_o the_o angel_n and_o equal_a unto_o the_o angel_n and_o in_o heaven_n the_o same_o be_v the_o measure_n of_o a_o man_n &_o of_o a_o angel_n apocal._n 21.17_o aug._n ep_v 112._o ergo_fw-la knowledge_n of_o our_o prayer_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v to_o glorious_a saint_n the_o fellow_n of_o angel_n neither_o can_v saint_n without_o knowledge_n of_o humane_a affair_n be_v perfect_o bless_v blessedness_n be_v a_o state_n wherein_o all_o just_a and_o reasonable_a desire_n of_o nature_n be_v satisfy_v with_o uttermost_a content_n according_a to_o that_o of_o the_o psalm_n 16.15_o satiabor_fw-la cùm_fw-la apparuerit_fw-la gloria_fw-la tua_fw-la and_o who_o can_v think_v that_o saint_n full_a of_o glory_n and_o charity_n do_v not_o earnest_o desire_v desire_n desire_v the_o minister_n against_o this_o reply_n pag._n 319._o saying_n that_o the_o saint_n desire_v to_o know_v no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v god_n will_v they_o shall_v know_v but_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o it_o be_v god_n will_v they_o shall_v know_v the_o thing_n do_v on_o earth_n answer_n we_o must_v still_o suppose_v that_o the_o course_n and_o will_n of_o god_n be_v suitable_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o thing_n except_o the_o contrary_n be_v clear_o prove_v the_o nature_n of_o charity_n be_v to_o desire_v to_o know_v the_o state_n of_o our_o friend_n and_o their_o proceed_n and_o affection_n towards_o us._n ergo_fw-la the_o saint_n be_v full_a of_o charity_n be_v to_o be_v suppose_v to_o desire_v to_o know_v the_o state_n of_o their_o friend_n they_o leave_v behind_o they_o upon_o earth_n and_o for_o who_o salvation_n they_o ●e_v solicitous_a except_o our_o minister_n

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adorans_fw-la so_o that_o this_o adoration_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n word_n angel_n the_o minister_n say_v pag._n 325._o that_o elias_n elizaeus_n and_o the_o angel_n be_v present_a visible_o and_o sensible_o but_o the_o saint_n be_v not_o sensible_o present_a &_o so_o we_o must_v not_o bow_v unto_o saint_n decease_v as_o child_n kneel_v not_o to_o their_o parent_n when_o they_o be_v absent_a answer_n we_o have_v prove_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n that_o to_o be_v true_a which_o the_o father_n teach_v with_o full_a consent_n namely_o s._n basill_n the_o virgin_n c._n 16._o every_o angel_n &_o holy_a spirit_n of_o saint_n see_v what_o be_v do_v every_o where_n and_o if_o this_o be_v true_a that_o they_o be_v present_a unto_o we_o and_o we_o a_o spectacle_n unto_o they_o why_o shall_v we_o not_o worship_v they_o as_o much_o as_o if_o they_o be_v sensible_o present_a not_o sense_n but_o faith_n be_v the_o ground_n of_o our_o devotion_n towards_o saint_n may_v we_o worship_v saint_n that_o be_v present_a to_o we_o according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o flesh_n and_o not_o worship_v they_o that_o be_v present_a according_a to_o the_o judgement_n of_o faith_n and_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n word_n with_o more_o than_o human_a &_o natural_a respect_n and_o with_o acknowledgement_n of_o more_o than_o humane_a and_o natural_a perfection_n in_o they_o be_v clear_o deduceable_a from_o holy_a scripture_n neither_o have_v protestant_n reason_n to_o stand_v against_o so_o many_o pregnant_a example_n of_o scripture_n upon_o the_o one_o example_n in_o the_o apocalyps_n of_o the_o angel_n refuse_v to_o be_v adore_v of_o s._n john_n say_v see_v thou_o do_v it_o not_o i_o be_o one_o of_o thy_o fellow_n servant_n adore_v god_n special_o this_o place_n be_v explicate_v long_o ago_o by_o the_o father_n as_o not_o against_o the_o custom_n of_o christian_a saint-worship_n for_o either_o the_o angel_n so_o appear_v as_o saint_n john_n take_v he_o to_o be_v god_n &_o will_v have_v adore_v he_o as_o god_n whereof_o the_o adorer_n be_v to_o be_v warn_v as_o s._n augustine_n adorator_fw-la augustine_n s._n august_n q._n 61._o in_o genes_n corrigendus_fw-la erat_fw-la adorator_fw-la expound_v or_o rather_o the_o angel_n for_o bad_a that_o worship_n not_o as_o injurious_a unto_o god_n but_o only_o as_o coumbersome_a to_o himself_o be_v loath_a as_o s._n gregory_n note_v after_o the_o incarnation_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n to_o see_v a_o man_n lie_v prostrate_a unto_o he_o special_o so_o holy_a a_o man_n and_o so_o special_a a_o friend_n of_o jesus_n and_o the_o word_n do_v it_o not_o adore_v god_n import_v no_o more_o which_o i_o declare_v suppose_v that_o one_o praise_v a_o preacher_n to_o his_o face_n for_o a_o excellent_a sermon_n he_o have_v make_v &_o the_o preacher_n out_o of_o modesty_n say_v praise_v not_o i_o i_o be_o a_o unworthy_a instrument_n of_o divine_a wisdom_n praise_v the_o author_n of_o all_o this_o his_o speech_n do_v not_o import_v that_o he_o think_v to_o commend_v a_o preacher_n sermon_n to_o be_v idolatry_n &_o give_v away_o the_o glory_n of_o god_n to_o a_o creature_n but_o only_o that_o modesty_n make_v he_o wish_v that_o man_n will_v not_o praise_v he_o but_o rather_o turn_v all_o the_o praise_n &_o glory_n of_o that_o sermon_n upon_o god_n in_o this_o sort_n the_o angel_n see_v the_o great_a and_o glorious_a friend_n of_o jesus_n prostrate_v at_o his_o fee●e_n request_v he_o to_o rise_v up_o not_o condemn_v that_o adoration_n as_o idolatrous_a but_o refuse_v it_o as_o a_o action_n though_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o offerer_n pious_a &_o godly_a yet_o to_o he_o the_o receiver_n cumbersome_a which_o he_o can_v not_o without_o some_o unwillingnes_n behold_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o dignity_n of_o the_o person_n he_o see_v prostrate_v before_o he_o rayl_v he_o the_o minister_n in_o this_o place_n be_v large_a in_o bitterness_n against_o we_o because_o he_o know_v not_o what_o to_o say_v or_o how_o to_o frame_v a_o argument_n against_o we_o out_o of_o this_o text_n of_o the_o apocalips_n for_o if_o s._n john_n do_v give_v divine_a and_o religious_a worship_n to_o the_o angel_n due_a to_o god_n only_o the_o example_n be_v not_o to_o the_o purpose_n for_o we_o say_v saint_n be_v not_o to_o be_v honour_v as_o go_n if_o he_o do_v only_o offer_v honour_n more_o than_o civil_a unto_o the_o angel_n in_o respect_n of_o his_o supernatural_a dignity_n with_o prostration_n of_o body_n than_o the_o same_o be_v not_o unlawful_a for_o the_o minister_n pag._n 336._o lin_v 30._o force_v by_o the_o jesuit_n argument_n do_v acknowledge_v such_o obeisance_n and_o reverend_a comportment_n may_v and_o must_v be_v do_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n when_o they_o be_v corporal_o &_o visible_o present_a as_o his_o angel_n be_v visible_o and_o corporal_o present_a to_o s._n john_n now_o that_o this_o great_a apostle_n of_o christ_n be_v more_o ignorant_a than_o any_o trivial_a minister_n that_o he_o know_v not_o what_o be_v 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signify_v the_o same_o as_o or._n because_o to_o strike_v father_n apart_o and_o to_o strike_v mother_n apart_o be_v worthy_a of_o death_n in_o a_o son_n therefore_o the_o scripture_n exod._n 21._o saying_n he_o that_o strike_v his_o father_n &_o mother_n let_v he_o die_v the_o death_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v disiunctive_o his_o father_n or_o mother_n this_o may_v be_v prove_v by_o other_o innumerable_a instance_n nor_o can_v so_o much_o as_o one_o example_n be_v bring_v where_o this_o rule_n fail_v this_o suppose_a i_o assume_v but_o the_o scripture_n teach_v that_o the_o eat_n of_o christ_n body_n a_o part_n by_o itself_o be_v sufficient_a unto_o eternal_a life_n john_n 6.52_o the_o bread_n which_o i_o will_v give_v be_v my_o flesh_n for_o the_o life_n of_o the_o world_n and_o 58._o he_o that_o eat_v i_o shall_v live_v by_o i_o and_o 59_o he_o that_o eat_v this_o bread_n shall_v live_v for_o ever_o ergo_fw-la the_o precept_n except_o you_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n you_o shall_v not_o have_v life_n in_o you_o be_v understand_v disiunctive_o except_o you_o eat_v his_o flesh_n or_o drink_v his_o blood_n hence_o the_o father_n when_o they_o say_v the_o gospel_n command_v drink_v of_o blood_n they_o mean_v disiunctive_o because_o they_o ground_n the_o precept_n upon_o this_o text_n the_o author_n of_o the_o book_n de_fw-fr coena_fw-la domini_fw-la say_v the_o law_n forbid_v the_o eat_n of_o blood_n but_o the_o gospel_n command_v drink_v thereof_o to_o wit_n disiunctive_o &_o s._n austin_n q._n 57_o in_o levit._n in_o the_o law_n man_n be_v forbid_v so_o taste_v of_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n but_o in_o the_o new_a law_n from_o take_v the_o blood_n of_o our_o sacrifice_n by_o way_n of_o nourishment_n no_o man_n be_v forbid_v yea_o rather_o all_o be_v invite_v thereunto_o that_o will_v have_v life_n to_o wit_n disiunctive_o that_o be_v they_o be_v invite_v if_o they_o will_v have_v life_n to_o eat_v the_o flesh_n or_o drink_v the_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n other_o place_n bring_v out_o of_o the_o father_n by_o you_o be_v partly_o from_o the_o purpose_n partly_o falsify_v from_o the_o purpose_n be_v the_o place_n which_o affirm_v no_o more_o then_o that_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v give_v in_o the_o sacrament_n unto_o all_o chrysostom_n hom_n 18._o in_o ●_o ad_fw-la cor._n the_o cup_n as_o distribute_v unto_o all_o ignatius_n epist_n ad_fw-la philadelphenses_fw-la etc._n etc._n falsify_v be_v the_o testimony_n of_o s._n justine_n pag._n 497._o but_o special_o pag._n 482._o for_o thus_o you_o cite_v it_o justinus_n martyr_n say_v that_o christian_n in_o his_o age_n distribute_v the_o sanctify_v bread_n &_o wine_n to_o every_o one_o present_a and_o he_o add_v further_a the_o apostle_n teach_v that_o jesus_n do_v command_v they_o to_o do_v thus_o you_o have_v corrupt_v his_o testimony_n two_o or_o three_o way_n first_o by_o omission_n for_o s._n justin_n do_v mention_v not_o only_a wine_n but_o also_o water_n the_o deacon_n say_v he_o distribute_v unto_o every_o one_o present_a consecrate_a bread_n wine_n and_o water_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d wherefore_o if_o by_o this_o testimony_n you_o can_v prove_v it_o be_v a_o divine_a precept_n to_o give_v wine_n you_o prove_v also_o that_o it_o be_v a_o divine_a precept_n to_o give_v water_n &_o consequent_o yourselves_o to_o be_v transgressor_n of_o the_o divine_a precept_n who_o give_v it_o not_o that_o this_o your_o perversity_n to_o urge_v we_o with_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n justin_n which_o make_v not_o to_o the_o purpose_n or_o else_o by_o the_o same_o yourself_o be_v condemn_v may_v not_o appear_v you_o falsify_v the_o place_n cite_v what_o please_v you_o and_o leave_v out_o what_o serve_v not_o your_o turn_n second_o these_o word_n of_o s._n justine_n the_o apostle_n teach_v that_o jesus_n command_v they_o so_o to_o do_v be_v not_o join_v upon_o the_o word_n that_o mention_v the_o 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justine_n by_o which_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o say_v that_o jesus_n give_v a_o precept_n not_o of_o communion_n in_o both_o kind_n but_o of_o believe_v the_o real_a presence_n whence_o your_o three_o corruption_n be_v discover_v make_v s._n justine_n to_o say_v that_o jesus_n command_v to_o do_v thus_o for_o to_o do_v thus_o be_v add_v unto_o the_o text_n against_o the_o drift_n thereof_o which_o manifest_o speak_v of_o a_o precept_n to_o believe_v thus_o not_o to_o do_v thus_o in_o like_a manner_n you_o falsify_v s._n cyprian_n pag._n 497._o you_o produce_v these_o his_o word_n as_o make_v against_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n in_o consecrate_v and_o administer_a the_o cup_n unto_o the_o people_n some_o do_v not_o that_o which_o our_o lord_n do_v appoint_v and_o command_v as_o who_o shall_v say_v these_o man_n do_v transgress_v the_o divine_a precept_n in_o that_o they_o give_v not_o the_o cup_n unto_o layman_n have_v s._n cyprian_n mean_v this_o he_o shall_v not_o have_v 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