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minister_n shall_v be_v judge_v in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a by_o the_o consistory_n of_o the_o emperor_n because_o it_o consist_v of_o layman_n and_o will_v he_o allow_v a_o b._n or_o minister_n shall_v be_v judge_v yea_o depose_a and_o deprive_v by_o a_o parishional_a consistory_n or_o whole_a parish_n consist_v of_o layman_n do_v he_o commend_v the_o good_a emperor_n that_o say_v he_o be_v unable_a to_o judge_v among_o bishop_n and_o will_v he_o allow_v of_o private_a man_n unlearned_a and_o unacquainted_a with_o government_n as_o competent_a judge_n in_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a and_o thus_o much_o of_o my_o denial_n of_o their_o exposition_n of_o ambrose_n make_v good_a by_o sufficient_a proof_n chap._n viii_o the_o proof_n of_o their_o exposition_n of_o ambrose_n disprove_v and_o the_o reasâ—os_n which_o i_o allege_v why_o the_o counsel_n of_o the_o senior_n be_v neglect_v defend_v serm._n sect._n 7._o pag._n 14._o but_o let_v we_o examine_v the_o force_n of_o their_o argument_n 39_o ambrose_n say_v there_o be_v elder_n in_o the_o church_n as_o well_o as_o in_o the_o synagogue_n therefore_o say_v they_o there_o be_v elder_n it_o follow_v not_o &c_n &c_n to_o learned_a presbyter_n in_o the_o middle_n of_o pag._n 16._o their_o argument_n be_v here_o such_o as_o in_o this_o question_n of_o lay-elder_n perpetuallie_o they_o use_v in_o all_o their_o proof_n of_o scripture_n and_o father_n that_o be_v from_o the_o genus_fw-la to_o the_o species_n yea_o to_o a_o fancy_a or_o feign_a species_n affirmative_o as_o if_o they_o shall_v say_v he_o be_v a_o magistrate_n therefore_o a_o constable_n a_o ancient_a citizen_n therefore_o a_o alderman_n or_o rather_o thus_o it_o be_v a_o man_n therefore_o the_o man_n in_o the_o moon_n i_o see_v a_o ship_n therefore_o it_o be_v argo_n like_o the_o wise_a man_n of_o athens_n who_o stand_v in_o pyraeo_n on_o the_o key_n there_o say_v every_o ship_n he_o see_v be_v he_o save_v that_o he_o be_v somewhat_o wise_a because_o he_o have_v 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have_v a_o senate_n of_o presbyter_n ergo_fw-la of_o lay-elder_n and_o that_o no_o man_n shall_v live_v in_o fear_n of_o the_o great_a stroke_n which_o this_o great_a champion_n have_v threaten_v let_v he_o understand_v that_o these_o be_v all_o the_o stroke_n that_o he_o will_v strike_v when_o his_o turn_n of_o strike_v come_v to_o this_o argument_n and_o all_o the_o rest_n i_o answer_v by_o deny_v the_o consequence_n which_o be_v so_o bad_a as_o the_o refuter_fw-la be_v loath_a to_o father_n it_o and_o yet_o neither_o in_o this_o nor_o in_o any_o other_o of_o their_o testimony_n they_o have_v or_o can_v make_v no_o better_o well_o say_v he_o whatsoever_o the_o argument_n be_v the_o answer_n be_v well_o worse_o meaning_n as_o it_o seem_v the_o reason_n of_o the_o answer_n which_o be_v this_o for_o even_o the_o synagogue_n have_v senior_n of_o the_o priest_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o people_n my_o reason_n may_v thus_o be_v explain_v if_o not_o only_o the_o church_n have_v senior_n 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5.14_o the_o three_o testimony_n i_o find_v not_o urge_v any_o where_o but_o in_o the_o counterpoison_v where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o james_n will_v they_o when_o they_o be_v weak_a to_o send_v for_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n thereby_o plain_o declare_v that_o the_o church_n ought_v not_o only_o to_o have_v a_o pastor_n and_o a_o doctor_n who_o chief_a attendance_n must_v be_v on_o read_v exhortation_n and_o doctrine_n but_o also_o many_o who_o ought_v always_o to_o be_v ready_a at_o a_o instant_n call_v of_o diverse_a and_o many_o at_o once_o that_o none_o in_o that_o necessary_a work_n be_v neglect_v it_o follow_v thereby_o that_o beside_o they_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v such_o other_o elder_n as_o may_v admonish_v the_o unruly_a comfort_v the_o weak_a mind_a and_o be_v patient_a towards_o all_o if_o all_o this_o be_v grant_v as_o it_o be_v propound_v it_o will_v not_o follow_v thereupon_o that_o therefore_o there_o shall_v be_v any_o lay-elder_n but_o many_o minister_n in_o every_o church_n for_o such_o be_v those_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v 5.12.14_o and_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o those_o who_o james_n will_v have_v send_v for_o to_o attend_v unto_o read_v doctrine_n and_o exhortation_n but_o his_o meaning_n no_o doubt_n be_v this_o there_o aught_o to_o be_v many_o elder_n in_o every_o church_n therefore_o some_o lay-elder_n the_o consequence_n he_o take_v for_o grant_v the_o antecedent_n he_o prove_v thus_o there_o be_v many_o elder_n in_o every_o church_n in_o s._n james_n time_n therefore_o there_o ought_v to_o be_v many_o now_o for_o answer_v to_o his_o antecedent_n and_o proof_n thereof_o we_o be_v to_o distinguish_v of_o the_o word_n church_n for_o if_o thereby_o he_o mean_v the_o church_n of_o a_o whole_a city_n and_o country_n adjoin_v there_o be_v and_o be_v many_o presbyter_n in_o every_o church_n but_o if_o thereby_o he_o mean_v every_o several_a congregation_n meeting_n or_o assembly_n of_o christian_n there_o neither_o be_v nor_o 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presbyter_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o therefore_o in_o every_o parish_n there_o shall_v be_v diverse_a presbyter_n but_o his_o consequence_n be_v especial_o to_o be_v insist_v upon_o for_o though_o there_o be_v in_o each_o church_n many_o presbyter_n as_o at_o ephesus_n act._n 20._o and_o at_o jerusalem_n where_o james_n himself_o be_v bishop_n act._n 15._o &_o 21._o of_o which_o number_n james_n will_v have_v the_o weak_a to_o send_v for_o some_o yet_o in_o that_o number_n there_o be_v not_o one_o who_o be_v not_o a_o minister_n neither_o can_v any_o sound_a reason_n be_v allege_v why_o we_o shall_v conceive_v these_o presbyter_n of_o who_o james_n speak_v to_o have_v be_v any_o other_o than_o minister_n first_o the_o title_n which_o be_v give_v they_o viz_o presbyter_n of_o the_o church_n as_o act._n 20.17_o be_v peculiar_a to_o minister_n not_o one_o instance_n to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o contrary_n second_o the_o function_n for_o the_o performance_n whereof_o they_o 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betwixt_o a_o b._n and_o a_o minister_n mean_v that_o the_o name_n be_v confound_v and_o that_o nothing_o be_v to_o be_v get_v by_o the_o succession_n of_o popish_a bb._n as_o minister_v not_o but_o lord_n it_o yet_o nothing_o can_v be_v allege_v out_o of_o he_o to_o prove_v that_o he_o disallow_v the_o government_n of_o orthodoxal_a bishop_n but_o it_o be_v strange_a that_o he_o shall_v allege_v b._n hooper_n and_o b._n bale_n as_o disallow_v in_o their_o judgement_n the_o superiority_n of_o bb._n which_o they_o allow_v in_o their_o practice_n but_o all_o that_o be_v say_v out_o of_o b._n hooper_n be_v either_o that_o bb._n be_v not_o till_o silvester_v or_o constantine_n time_n 8._o such_o as_o they_o be_v now_o which_o be_v true_a in_o respect_n of_o their_o outward_a estate_n which_o by_o the_o peace_n and_o prosperity_n of_o the_o church_n be_v much_o increase_v but_o be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o substance_n of_o their_o call_n or_o that_o excommunication_n shall_v not_o be_v use_v by_o the_o b._n alone_o which_o be_v little_a or_o nothing_o to_o the_o present_a purpose_n as_o if_o he_o must_v needs_o disallow_v the_o episcopal_a function_n who_o will_v not_o have_v the_o bishop_n to_o excommunicate_v alone_o 164._o b._n bale_n understand_v by_o the_o name_n of_o blasphemy_n write_v on_o the_o head_n of_o the_o beast_n apoc._n 13._o the_o title_n of_o popish_a office_n which_o he_o say_v be_v usurp_v and_o not_o appoint_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n among_o which_o when_o he_o reckon_v metropolitan_n diocesan_n parson_n vicar_n and_o doctor_n he_o can_v be_v understand_v as_o speak_v of_o these_o office_n in_o the_o true_a church_n but_o as_o they_o be_v member_n of_o antichrist_n for_o what_o be_v the_o office_n of_o a_o parson_n but_o of_o a_o pastor_n etc._n etc._n and_o that_o this_o be_v his_o meaning_n appear_v by_o the_o other_o allegation_n 17.3_o wherein_o beside_o the_o title_n and_o office_n of_o the_o popish_a hierarchy_n among_o who_o he_o reckon_v bb._n doctor_n &_o priest_n he_o add_v temporal_a governor_n also_o as_o emperor_n king_n prince_n duke_n earl_n lord_n justice_n deputy_n judge_n lawyer_n mayor_n bailiff_n constable_n etc._n etc._n leave_v their_o own_o duty_n office_n as_o to_o minister_v right_o to_o serve_v their_o abomination_n after_o these_o for_o want_v of_o better_a proof_n he_o allege_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o english_a man_n which_o be_v at_o geneva_n in_o queen_n mary_n time_n and_o be_v the_o first_o author_n of_o this_o contention_n for_o the_o pretend_a discipline_n among_o we_o to_o who_o testimony_n in_o their_o own_o cause_n that_o they_o present_v to_o we_o the_o form_n of_o a_o church_n limit_v within_o the_o compass_n of_o god_n word_n what_o shall_v i_o answer_v but_o that_o they_o have_v often_o say_v but_o never_o will_v be_v able_a to_o prove_v that_o their_o discipline_n be_v prescribe_v in_o god_n word_n last_o he_o allege_v m._n fox_n who_o testimony_n though_o in_o vain_a i_o seek_v in_o three_o several_a edition_n yet_o his_o judgement_n be_v apparent_a by_o that_o which_o may_v easy_o be_v find_v he_o therefore_o say_v according_a to_o the_o refuter_n allegation_n that_o in_o the_o primitive_a church_n there_o be_v not_o then_o any_o one_o mother_n church_n such_o as_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n now_o pretend_v herself_o to_o be_v above_o other_o church_n but_o the_o whole_a universal_a church_n be_v the_o mother_n church_n under_o which_o universal_a church_n in_o general_n be_v comprehend_v all_o other_o particular_a church_n in_o special_a he_o mean_v the_o church_n of_o several_a country_n and_o province_n as_o sister_n church_n together_o not_o one_o great_a than_o another_o but_o all_o in_o like_a aequalitie_n what_o will_v he_o hence_o conclude_v that_o therefore_o there_o be_v no_o bb._n nor_o archbishop's_n not_o so_o but_o that_o therefore_o as_o the_o diocesan_n church_n be_v equal_a so_o be_v the_o bb._n and_o as_o the_o metropolitan_a church_n be_v equal_a so_o the_o archbb._n hear_v mr._n fox_n 1570._o himself_o where_o he_o debate_v this_o question_n if_o they_o say_v there_o must_v needs_o be_v distinction_n of_o degree_n in_o the_o church_n and_o in_o this_o distinction_n of_o degree_n superiority_n must_v necessary_o be_v grant_v for_o the_o outward_a discipline_n of_o the_o church_n for_o direct_v matter_n for_o quiet_v of_o schism_n for_o set_v order_n for_o commence_v of_o convocation_n &_o council_n as_o need_n shall_v require_v etc._n etc._n against_o this_o superiority_n we_o stand_v not_o and_o therefore_o we_o yield_v to_o our_o superior_a power_n king_n and_o prince_n our_o due_a obedience_n and_o to_o our_o lawful_a governor_n under_o god_n of_o both_o regiment_n ecclesiastical_a and_o temporal_a also_o in_o the_o ecclesiastical_a state_n we_o take_v not_o away_o the_o distinction_n of_o ordinary_a degree_n such_o as_o by_o the_o scripture_n be_v appoint_v or_o by_o the_o primitive_a church_n allow_v as_o patriarch_n or_o archbb._n bb._n minister_n and_o deacon_n for_o of_o these_o four_o we_o especial_o read_v as_o chief_a in_o which_o four_o degree_n as_o we_o grant_v diversity_n of_o office_n so_o we_o admit_v in_o the_o same_o also_o diversity_n of_o dignity_n neither_o deny_v that_o which_o be_v due_a to_o each_o degree_n neither_o yet_o maintain_v the_o ambition_n of_o any_o singular_a person_n for_o as_o we_o give_v to_o the_o minister_n place_n above_o the_o deacon_n to_o the_o b_o above_o the_o minister_n to_o the_o archbishop_n above_o the_o b._n so_o we_o see_v no_o cause_n of_o inequality_n why_o one_o minister_n shall_v be_v above_o another_o minister_n one_o bishop_n in_o his_o degree_n above_o another_o b._n to_o deal_v in_o his_o diocese_n or_o one_o archbb._n above_o another_o archbishop_n and_o this_o be_v to_o keep_v a_o order_n due_o and_o true_o in_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n here_o then_o be_v the_o question_n between_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n whether_o the_o metropolitan_a church_n of_o rome_n with_o the_o archbb._n of_o the_o same_o aught_o to_o be_v prefer_v before_o other_o metropolitan_a church_n and_o archbb_n through_o universal_a christendom_n or_o not_o 11._o and_o thus_o i_o have_v examine_v his_o testimony_n which_o if_o you_o shall_v compare_v with_o those_o whereunto_o in_o the_o sermon_n i_o refer_v the_o reader_n you_o will_v acknowledge_v that_o he_o have_v little_a cause_n either_o to_o accuse_v my_o speech_n of_o untruth_n or_o to_o justle_v out_o the_o surveyor_n testimony_n with_o his_o own_o as_o though_o they_o have_v not_o be_v worthy_a to_o have_v be_v hear_v in_o comparison_n of_o he_o whereas_o indeed_o if_o there_o have_v be_v no_o more_o testimony_n allege_v then_o of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o augustane_n conâ—ession_n and_o the_o subscriber_n thereunto_o who_o i_o especial_o mean_v be_v the_o man_n
exposition_n favour_v lay-elder_n have_v the_o consent_n of_o new_a writer_n his_o proposition_n examine_v and_o whether_o the_o authority_n of_o old_a writer_n or_o new_a be_v to_o be_v prefer_v rheti_fw-la l._n 1._o c._n 15._o §_o sect._n â—_o his_o assumption_n answer_v 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d writer_n §_o sect._n 5._o not_o all_o those_o who_o he_o cit_v do_v expound_v this_o text_n of_o lay-elder_n adverse_a falso_fw-la nomiâ—_n episc._n 331._o dec._n 5._o serm._n 3_o §_o sect._n 6._o ad_fw-la pag._n 21._o his_o three_o reason_n because_o my_o exposition_n be_v not_o make_v by_o any_o of_o the_o father_n primus_fw-la in_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o 〈◊〉_d 1._o tim._n â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o be_v to_o rise_v well_o to_o spare_v or_o forbear_v nothing_o for_o the_o care_n of_o the_o sheep_n §_o sect._n 7._o in_o cant._n 8_o 1â—_n the_o 2_o reason_n that_o lay-elder_n 〈…〉_z tim._n 5.17_o 1._o thess._n â—_o 12.13_o ad_fw-la pag._n 22._o §_o sect._n 2._o his_o answer_n to_o the_o 2._o reason_n and_o first_o to_o the_o proposition_n by_o applâ—â—o_v he_o â—â—6_n 16_o §_o sect._n 〈…〉_z but_o a_o 〈◊〉_d shift_n ad_fw-la pag._n 2._o &_o â—4_n 2._o king_n 22._o §_o sect._n 4._o his_o 1._o reason_n that_o my_o exposition_n be_v a_o bare_a shift_n §_o sect._n 5._o his_o 2._o reason_n §_o sect._n 6._o ad_fw-la pag._n 25._o his_o three_o reason_n contain_v 3._o syllogism_n §_o sect._n 7._o answer_v to_o his_o first_o syllogism_n to_o the_o 2._o 1._o tim._n 4.3_o attend_v to_o read_v and_o doctrine_n pag._n 7._o &_o 8._o §_o sect._n 8._o his_o 3._o syllogism_n answer_v §_o sect._n 9_o the_o reason_n 〈…〉_z exposition_n examine_v the_o first_o reason_n aâ—_n pag._n 26._o calvin_n in_o act._n etc._n etc._n d._n whiâ—ak_v the_o ponâ—_n rom._n pag._n 1_o §_o sect._n 11._o inst._n li_n 4._o c._n 3._o §_o 8._o calvin_n in_o tit._n 1.5_o pag._n 101._o in_o act._n 2_o §_o sect._n 12._o pag._n 14.15_o tit._n 3.8.14_o ad_fw-la pag._n 28._o john_n 21.1_o act._n 20.28_o 1._o pet._n 5._o â—_o john_n 21_o 1â—_n 16.17_o to_o feed_v 〈◊〉_d flock_n say_v raynolds_n to_o perform_v the_o duty_n of_o pastor_n unto_o conf._n with_o â—_o 461._o cal._n in_o 1._o peâ—_n 5.2_o epist._n 59_o ad_fw-la paulinum_n apoca._n 1.6_o in_o act._n 14.23_o in_o act._n 20.28_o cons._n wâ—_n haâ—â—_n pâ—_n §_o secâ—_n ad._n pag._n 29._o his_o cauâ—â—_n the_o prop_n his_o spite_n against_o the_o assumption_n their_o 〈◊〉_d thâ—_n tenancy_n due_a to_o 〈…〉_z bez._n in_o vit_fw-mi an._n 1536._o 〈◊〉_d 1541._o see_v the_o law_n of_o geneva_n &_o sum_n capit_fw-la diâ—câ—ph_n eccl._n genâ—a_fw-la inter_fw-la eâ—ist_n caluiâ—j_fw-la bez._n de_fw-fr grad_v mâ—â—â—â—_n c._n 11._o pag._n â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d ibid._n 〈◊〉_d before_o the_o helâ—et_v confess_v lib._n 1._o 179._o §_o sect_n 4._o his_o objection_n deny_v their_o confession_n refute_v d._n bilâ—on_n pag._n 130._o pag._n 7._o pag._n 129.130_o ad_fw-la pag_n 30._o d._n 〈◊〉_d pag._n 90._o 1._o tim._n 5._o 1._o pet_n 5._o lib._n 1.17_o 179._o chap._n 14._o pag._n 74._o chap._n 4.5.6.7.9.11.12.14.16.17.18.19.31.34_o his_o 2_o objection_n gal._n 6.7_o lib._n 1.178_o 1._o cor._n 9.11_o object_n 3._o object_n 4._o §_o sect._n the_o execution_n that_o elder_n if_o need_v be_v have_v allowance_n answer_v t.c._n in_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o §_o sect._n 7_o his_o exceptiâ—â—_n that_o allowanâ—_n occasion_v by_o the_o eldeâ—_n need_v be_v yield_v for_o theâ—_n work_v answer_v ad_fw-la pag._n 3â—_n §_o sect._n 8._o no_o honour_n of_o maintenance_n appoint_v to_o lay-elder_n in_o god_n book_n see_v the_o survey_n of_o discipli_v pag._n 440.441_o demonst_a prefac_o demonsâ—_n ibid._n luk._n 19_o &_o 27._o table_n oâ—_n cipl_n §_o sect._n 9_o the_o office_n lay-elder_n nâ—t_v prescribe_v in_o the_o scripture_n eccl._n dis_fw-fr foe_fw-mi 5_o t.c._n l._n pag_n 16_o demonsâ—_n pag_n 1_o â—_o the_o part_n the_o elder_n â—ice_n not_o pâ—â—scribed_v in_o scripture_n heb_n 1_o leu._n 19_o matt_n 18_o 15_o 16_o 17_o eccl._n discipl_a 122_o t.c._n beza_n argument_n prove_v the_o office_n of_o elder_n out_o of_o the_o scripture_n answer_v §_o sect._n â—â—_o their_o 2._o argument_n 1._o thess._n 5.12_o act._n 20.28_o heb._n 13.17_o 1._o pet._n 5.1.2_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d §_o sect._n 12._o the_o quality_n of_o elder_n not_o describe_v in_o god_n word_n 〈…〉_z pag_n 44_o §_o sect._n 13._o his_o 3._o cauâ—â—les_n against_o pag._n 10._o answer_v answer_v with_fw-mi â—_o confess_v â—_o s._n 30._o synâ—_n rom._n sub_fw-la sylu_a c._n 12._o q._n 2._o â—_o 27.28.2.30_o §_o sect._n 1â—_n ad_fw-la pag._n 3â—_n his_o 2._o caâ—â—â—_n his_o 3._o cavil_n the_o testimony_n of_o ambrose_n discuss_v li._n 2._o part_n â—_o pag._n 44._o chap._n 3._o §_o 9_o &_o 10._o ad_fw-la pag._n 33_o t_o 〈◊〉_d 1._o pag._n 183._o joh._n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 2._o pag._n 44._o §_o sect._n 2._o concern_v the_o mactation_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d doâ—â—â—rum_n §_o sect._n 3._o 〈◊〉_d discuss_v 〈◊〉_d testimony_n â—_o ambâ—â—se_n 17._o page_n 〈◊〉_d t._n c._n h._n 2._o part_n 1._o pag._n â—_o 14._o 〈◊〉_d 528._o luk._n 1._o pag._n 41._o 〈◊〉_d 1._o tim._n 3.16_o §_o sect._n three_o â—â—_o note_a in_o handle_v this_o tesâ—â—â—â—nie_n of_o ambrose_n ambrose_n my_o reâ—â—_n their_o caption_n as_o â—â—ging_v ambrose_n â—â—â—â—red_v as_o â—â—â—dest_a ad_fw-la pag._n 3_o &_o 35._o in_o prefat_n §_o sect_n 5._o the_o reason_n why_o their_o exposition_n be_v to_o be_v reject_v ad_fw-la pag._n 36._o §_o sect._n 9_o his_o answer_n to_o the_o reason_n the_o â—_o conâ—â—â—â—â—â—ce_n pag_n 62â—_n apolog_fw-la c._n 3_o de_fw-fr offic_n li._n c._n 20._o §_o sect._n 7._o the_o second_o consequence_n ad_fw-la pag._n 37._o 1._o sam._n 12.12_o deut._n 33.5_o jud._n 17.6_o &_o 19.1_o &_o 21.21_o 1._o sam._n 8.7_o 1._o sam._n 8_o 11.12.13.14.15.16.17.18_o the_o .3_o consequence_n §_o sect._n 9_o the_o â—_o branch_n of_o the_o assumption_n 〈◊〉_d ambrose_n 〈◊〉_d a_o diocesan_n b._n b._n geograph_n lib._n 5._o insubres_n hac_fw-la aetate_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la mediolanum_n metropolin_n habuere_fw-la habuere_fw-la epist._n ad_fw-la solita_fw-la solita_fw-la de_fw-fr grad_v min._n c._n 24._o 24._o centur._n 4_o c._n 10_o 11â—7_n ruffin_n hist._n li._n 2_o c._n 11._o paulin._n in_o vit_fw-mi ambr._n ambr._n theod._n lib._n 4._o c._n 5._o 5._o balsam_n in_o conc._n cost_n in_o c._n 2._o olim_fw-la omnes_fw-la pro._n â—inciarum_fw-la metropolitani_n a_o proprijs_fw-la synodis_fw-la eligebantur_fw-la conc_fw-fr c._n haelc_n act_n 11._o ostendat_fw-la bassianus_n si_fw-la per_fw-la synodum_fw-la remetropolis_n remetropolis_n cap._n 3._o 3._o theodor_n li_z 5._o c._n 18._o 18._o ibid._n ibid._n epist._n 32._o ad_fw-la valentin_n imp_n imp_n orat._n in_o auxent_n l._n 5._o epist._n inter_fw-la epist._n 32._o &_o 33._o epist._n 33._o cap._n 11.157_o §_o sect._n 13._o the_o 3._o branch_n of_o the_o assumption_n cons._n aquil._n epist._n 32._o ad_fw-la pag._n 39_o 39_o matt._n 18._o 18._o act_n 14.23_o 14.23_o jam_fw-la 5._o 5._o rom._n 12.8_o 12.8_o ad_fw-la trallian_n trallian_n apolo_n 39_o 39_o in_o esa._n 3_o 3_o quintil._n li_n 5._o c_o 10._o 10._o topic_n 2.2_o 2.2_o jer._n 19.1_o ps._n 37.2_o §_o sect._n 2._o their_o argument_n urge_v &_o refute_v ad_fw-la pag._n 40._o pag_n 67._o pag_n 26.29.31_o §_o sect._n 3._o four_o thing_n declare_v first_o that_o bb._n be_v call_v doctores_fw-la doctores_fw-la li._n 2._o part_n 2._o pag._n 42._o &_o 43._o 43._o socr._n lib._n 5._o c._n 22._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sozom._n li_n 7._o c._n 19_o 19_o possidon_n in_o vita_fw-la augustini_fw-la augustini_fw-la de_fw-fr offic_n li._n 2._o c._n 24._o 24._o conc._n carth._n graec_fw-la c._n 54._o carthag_n 3._o c._n 42._o mat._n 23.8.10_o §_o sect._n 4._o the_o 2._o that_o presbyter_n though_o not_o call_v doctores_fw-la yet_o be_v minister_n minister_n conc._n aneyr._n c._n 1._o &_o 2._o can._n apost_n 8.14.16.17.50_o conc._n nic._n c._n 3._o con._n carth._n graec_fw-la c._n 3._o &_o 4._o carth._n 2._o c._n 2._o antioch_n c._n 3._o chalced._n c._n 2._o sard._n c._n 10._o etc._n etc._n etc._n con._n carth._n 2._o c._n 2._o grae_fw-la c._n 3._o 3._o de_fw-fr prescript_n advers_a herstico_fw-la herstico_fw-la lib._n 4._o epist._n 10._o 10._o sacerdotibus_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la cum._n episcopo_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la sacerdotali_fw-la honore_fw-la coniuncti_fw-la lib._n 3._o epist_n 1._o 1._o ecclesiast_n hierarch_n c._n 5._o 5._o soz._n li._n 7._o c._n 19_o 19_o isid._n de_fw-fr eccles_n offic_n lib._n 2._o c._n 7._o 7._o conc._n ancyr_n c._n 1._o 1._o in_o mat._n 25._o homil_n 53._o 53._o conc._n laod._n c._n 8._o 8._o tertull._n de_fw-fr baptism_n hier._n adu_fw-la lucifer_n lucifer_n can._n apost_n 3._o &_o 31._o conc._n neocaesar_n 13._o c._n carth._n graec_fw-la 4._o conâ—_n elib_n c._n 32._o c._n const._n in_o trullo_n c._n 26._o 26._o conc._n nic._n c._n 18._o 18._o cypr._n li._n 3._o epist_n 14._o &_o 15._o 15._o hier._n ad_fw-la euagr._fw-la euagr._fw-la conc._n