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A16701 The apologie of the Romane Church deuided into three seuerall tractes whereof 1. The first, concerneth the antiquitie and continuance of the Catholike Romane religion ever since the Apostles time. 2. The second that the Protestantes religion was not so much as in being, at or before Luthers first appearing. 3. The thirde that Catholickes are no lesse loyall and dutifull to their soveraigne, then Protestantes. All which are vndertaken and proued by testimonies of the learned Protestantes themselues. Anderton, Lawrence.; Anderton, James, fl. 1624, attributed name. 1604 (1604) STC 3604; ESTC S119868 294,461 212

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19_o 20._o 21._o 22._o 23._o 24._o etc._n etc._n incomparablie_o the_o most_o universal_a and_o violent_a persecution_n that_o ever_o be_v yet_o the_o same_o notwithstanding_o our_o adversary_n med_n adversary_n centur._n 1_o &_o cent._n 2._o &_o 3._o throughout_o and_o pantaleon_n in_o chronogra_fw-la &_o functius_n in_o chronolog_n &_o osiander_n cent._n 1._o 2._o &_o 3_o &_o fox_n act_n mon._n in_o his_o discourse_n of_o the_o ten_o first_o persecution_n of_o the_o primative_a church_n and_o dresserus_n in_o millenar_n 5._o pag_n 11._o &_o 12._o and_o of_o the_o sundry_a counsel_n or_o synod_n then_o assemble_v and_o have_v see_v mr._n fulks_n book_n the_o successione_n ecclesiastica_fw-la contra_fw-la stapletonum_fw-la pa._n 246_o ante_fw-la med_n the_o centurie_n writer_n and_o sundry_a otherr_v do_v at_o this_o day_n take_v certain_a and_o particular_a notice_n of_o the_o catholic_a bishop_n and_o pastor_n by_o name_n in_o every_o of_o those_o age_n of_o their_o administration_n 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no_o less_o than_o priest_n and_o this_o faw_v by_o the_o authority_n of_o christ_n himself_o say_v do_v this_o in_o remembrance_n of_o i_o this_o christ_n speak_v to_o all_o there_o present_a and_o to_o come_v afterwards_o whosoever_o shall_v eat_v of_o that_o br●ad_n and_o drink_v of_o that_o wine_n etc._n etc._n this_o also_o be_v witness_v by_o st._n pau●e_n who_o .1_o cor_fw-la 11._o repeat_v this_o apply_v it_o to_o all_o the_o corinthian_n make_v they_o all_o a●_n himself_o be_v that_o be_v to_o say_v cons●crators_n &_o if_o then_o that_o which_o be_v great_a than_o all_o be_v give_v indifferent_o to_o all_o man_n and_o woman_n i_o mean_v the_o word_n and_o baptism_n then_o that_o which_o be_v l_o sse_n i_o mean_v to_o consecrate_v the_o supper_n be_v also_o give_v to_o they_o and_o the_o like_a doctrine_n do_v he_o affirm_v no_o less_o plain_o 138._o plain_o luther_n in_o assertionibus_fw-la damnatis_fw-la per_fw-la leonen_fw-mi decimum_fw-la art_n 13._o say_v in_o sacramento_fw-la poenitentiae_fw-la ac_fw-la remissione_n culpae_fw-la non_fw-la plus_fw-la facit_fw-la papa_n ●piscopus_fw-la quam_fw-la infimus_fw-la sacerdos_n immo_n ubi_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la sacerdos_n aeque_fw-la tantum_fw-la quilibet_fw-la christianus_n etiamsi_fw-la mulier_fw-la aut_fw-la pver_fw-la estet_fw-la etc._n etc._n quod_fw-la autem_fw-la absente_n sacerdote_fw-la etiam_fw-la pver_fw-la aut_fw-la mulier_fw-la &_o quilibet_fw-la christianus_n absoluere_fw-la potest_fw-la mat._n 18._o clare_v patet_fw-la ubi_fw-la christus_fw-la omnibus_fw-la christianis_fw-la dicit_fw-la quodcun_fw-la que_fw-la solueritis_fw-la super_fw-la terram_fw-la solutum_fw-la erit_fw-la in_o coelis_fw-la hanc_fw-la invictam_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la non_fw-la mihi_fw-la subvertent_n and_o see_v further_o in_o loc_n comun_n class_n 2._o page_n 136._o &_o 138._o in_o other_o of_o his_o write_n be_v as_o mr._n d._n covel_n affirm_v medium_n affirm_v mr._n covel_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o mr._n hooker_n 5._o book_n of_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n art_n 15._o pag._n 101_o post_n med_n and_o see_v luther_n de_fw-fr missa_fw-la privata_fw-la editio_fw-la anno._n 1534._o and_o see_v hospinianus_n in_o histor_n sacramentar_n page_n 22._o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la medium_n not_o afraid_a to_o affirm_v that_o sacrament_n be_v affectual_a t●ough_o administer_v by_o satan_n himself_o this_o do_v luther_n write_v against_o the_o pope_n though_o else_o where_o to_o serve_v his_o own_o turn_n against_o the_o anabaptiste_n who_o use_v the_o very_a same_o weapon_n against_o he_o he_o press_v and_o charge_v they_o for_o their_o want_n of_o ordinary_a call_n so_o variable_a consueverunt_fw-la variable_a zuinglius_fw-la in_o responsione_n ad_fw-la confessionem_fw-la lutheri_fw-la say_v lutherus_n nunc_fw-la hoc_fw-la nunc_fw-la illud_fw-la de_fw-la eadem_fw-la repronunciat_fw-la nec_fw-la usquam_fw-la sibi_fw-la constat_fw-la haud_fw-la dub●é_fw-la ea_fw-la inconstantia_fw-la &_o levitate_fw-la in_o dei_fw-la verbo_fw-la utendun_v esse_fw-la existimat_fw-la qua_fw-la effrictae_fw-la frontis_fw-la scurrae_fw-la inter_fw-la aleam_fw-la uti_fw-la consueverunt_fw-la inconstant_a and_o temporise_v as_o occasion_n requier_v be_v he_o in_o his_o doctrine_n 8_o concern_v the_o sufficiency_n of_o our_o redemption_n by_o our_o saviour_n passion_n in_o his_o humane_a nature_n upon_o the_o cross_n luther_n teach_v thus_o far_o to_o the_o contrary_a as_o that_o not_o habet_fw-la not_o luther_n in_o confession_n maiore_fw-la de_fw-la caena_fw-la domini_fw-la say_v cum_fw-la credo_fw-la quod_fw-la sola_fw-la humuna_fw-la natura_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o passa_fw-la est_fw-la christus_fw-la ille_fw-la vilis_fw-la nec_fw-la magni_fw-la praetij_fw-la saluator_fw-la est_fw-la immo_n ipse_fw-la quoque_fw-la saluatore_fw-la opus_fw-la habet_fw-la only_o the_o humane_a nature_n of_o christ_n suffer_v for_o we_o for_o say_v he_o in_o affirm_v but_o so_o much_o ●upra_fw-la much_o luther_n ut_fw-la ●upra_fw-la christ_n be_v a_o saviour_n of_o vile_a and_o small_a account_n and_o need_v himself_o also_o a_o saviour_n but_o also_o that_o b._n that_o luther_n libro_fw-la de_fw-la concilijs_fw-la part_n 2._o say_v of_o the_o zwinglian_n pertinacissi●●é_fw-fr contra_fw-la i_o pugnabant_fw-la quod_fw-la divinitas_fw-la christi_fw-la pati_fw-la non_fw-la posset_n etc._n etc._n and_o see_v luther_n further_o tom_fw-mi 3._o germ_n jen._n fol._n 455._o b._n the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n do_v suffer_v which_o his_o opinion_n of_o the_o godhead_n suffering_n be_v admire_v and_o yet_o further_o taugh_v by_o andrea_n islebio_n andrea_n silvester_n czecanorius_fw-la in_o dial_n de_fw-fr corruptis_fw-la moribus_fw-la utriusque_fw-la partis_fw-la fol._n 5._o say_v andrea_n musculus_fw-la non_fw-la veritus_fw-la fuit_fw-la palám_fw-la docere_fw-la divinam_fw-la christi_fw-la naturi_fw-la q●●e_fw-la deu●_n est_fw-la un●_n cum_fw-la human_a anatura_fw-la mortuam_fw-la fuisse_fw-la in_o cruse_n etc._n etc._n nec_fw-la destirit_n etc._n etc._n id_fw-la dogma_fw-la de_fw-la mortua_fw-la divinitate_fw-la publi●è_fw-la profiteri_fw-la ac_fw-la spargere_fw-la adiutore_fw-la joanne_n islebio_n m●s●ulus_n and_o sundry_a finem_fw-la sundry_a nichol●us_fw-la seluecerus_n in_o confut_o accusat_fw-la sol_fw-it 192._o say_v nemo_fw-la dicere_fw-la posset_n vel_fw-la debet_fw-la d●um_fw-la non_fw-la este_fw-la p●ssum_fw-la vel_fw-la mortuum_fw-la and_o the_o same_o doctrine_n be_v in_o like_a manner_n affirm_v by_o stephanus_n gerlachius_n contra_fw-la busaeum_n pag._n 24._o &_o 126._o and_o by_o jacobus_n andreas_n whereof_o see_v in_o respon_n ad_fw-la acta_fw-la colloq●_n montisbelgar_a pag._n 82._o versus_fw-la finem_fw-la &_o 92._o versus_fw-la finem_fw-la other_o of_o luther_n scholar_n and_o so_o intolerable_o and_o gross_o that_o they_o be_v therefore_o the●in_o special_o 4._o special_o beza_n in_o epistolis_fw-la theologicis_fw-la ep_v 60_o initio_fw-la and_o after_o the_o geneva_n print_n of_o anno._n 1573._o pag._n 285._o say_v non_fw-la potest_fw-la a_o nobis_fw-la satis_fw-la bene_fw-la disputari_fw-la de_fw-la sententia_fw-la islebij_fw-la &_o musculi_fw-la andreae_n contendentium_fw-la christum_fw-la in_fw-la utraque_fw-la natura_fw-la passum_fw-la esse_fw-la etc._n etc._n istorum_fw-la sententia_fw-la prophetarum_fw-la &_o apostolorum_fw-la &_o ominum_fw-la orthodoxorum_fw-la sanae_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la adversari_fw-la videtur_fw-la whereupon_o he_o do_v at_o large_a confate_n that_o opinion_n there_o pag._n 286._o 287._o 291._o and_o see_v beza_n hereof_o further_o in_o respon_n ad_fw-la acta_fw-la colloquij_fw-la mentisbelgar_a part_n 1._o pag._n 82._o versus_fw-la finem_fw-la &_o 92._o versus_fw-la finem_fw-la and_o silvester_n czecanorius_fw-la ut_fw-la supra_fw-la at_o 5._o and_o luther_n ut_fw-la supra_fw-la at_o 4._o contradict_v by_o diverse_a other_o learned_a protestant_n 9_o concern_v his_o contempt_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n and_o his_o own_o great_a undertake_a knowledge_n he_o say_v initio_fw-la say_v luther_n in_o libro_fw-la ad_fw-la ducem_fw-la georgium_n and_o luther_n ad_fw-la cap._n 1._o ad_fw-la galatas_fw-la say_v esto_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la augustinus_n &_o alij_fw-la doctores_fw-la item_n petrus_n apollo_n imo_fw-la angelus_n e_fw-la coelo_fw-la diversum_fw-la doceant_fw-la tamen_fw-la mea_fw-la doctrina_fw-la est_fw-la eiusmomodi_fw-la quae_fw-la solius_fw-la dei_fw-la gloriam_fw-la illustrate_v etc._n etc._n petrus_n apostolorum_fw-la summus_fw-la vivebat_fw-la &_o docebat_fw-la extra_fw-la verbum_fw-la dei_fw-la and_o after_o the_o english_a translation_n fol._n 33._o b._n paulo_fw-la post_fw-la med_n &_o 34._o a._n initio_fw-la since_o the_o apostle_n time_n no_o doctor_n or_o writer_n have_v so_o excellent_o and_o clear_o confirm_v instruct_v and_o comfort_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o secular_a state_n as_o i_o have_v do_v by_o the_o singular_a grace_n of_o god_n this_o certain_o i_o know_v that_o neither_o austin_n nor_o ambros_n who_o be_v yet_o in_o this_o matter_n the_o best_a be_v equal_a to_o i_o herein_o and_o again_o jerusalem_n again_o luther_n in_o serm_n de_fw-fr eversione_n jerusalem_n the_o gospel_n be_v so_o copious_o preach_v by_o we_o that_o true_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n it_o be_v not_o so_o clear_a in_o what_o strange_a manner_n he_o contemn_v origen_n athanasius_n chrysostom_n basill_n cyprian_n hierome_n and_o gregory_n i_o pass_v over_o as_o be_v else_o where_o b._n where_o see_v this_o in_o gasper_n vkenbergius_n in_o his_o book_n entitle_v grave_n &_o iustae_fw-la causae_fw-la cur_n catholicis_n in_o communione_fw-la veteris_fw-la eiusque_fw-la very_fw-la christianismi_fw-la constantèr_fw-la usque_fw-la ad_fw-la aquavitae_fw-la finem_fw-la permanendum_fw-la sit_fw-la etc._n etc._n print_v anno._n 1589._o causa_fw-la 7._o pag._n 175._o &_o 176._o and_o see_v coccius_n his_o thesaurus_fw-la tom_n 1._o pag._n 1118._o b._n collect_v special_o from_o his_o own_o particular_a say_n over_o tediouse_a and_o unworthy_a here_o to_o rehearse_v how_o high_o he_o esteem_v of_o such_o doctrine_n as_o himself_o collecteh_a from_o the_o scripture_n and_o how_o much_o he_o prefer_v himself_o therein_o before_o the_o father_n himself_o signify_v say_v 342._o say_v luther_n tom_n 2._o l._n contra_fw-la regem_fw-la angliae_fw-la fol._n 342._o god_n word_n be_v above_o all_o the_o divine_a majesty_n make_v for_o i_o so_o as_o i_o pass_v not_o if_o a_o thousand_o austin_n a_o thousand_o cyprian_n a_o thousand_o king_n harrie_n church_n stand_v against_o i_o nay_o he_o doubt_v not_o in_o plain_a term_n to_o exempte_v volo_fw-la exempte_v luther_n
h●guenotes_n etc._n etc._n imprimee_fw-fr a_fw-fr caen._n 1590._o en_fw-fr argum_fw-la du_fw-fr liure_fw-fr pag._n 2._o ca●h●l●_n ke●_n and_o h_n g●●●●●s_v to_o be_v of_o one_o say_v and_o rol_v g_o ●n_n with_o who_o agree_v another_o l_o ke_v ●rite●_n term_v they_o in_o like_a manner_n 204._o manner_n apology_n catholic_n etc._n etc._n part_n 2._o pag._n 26._o &_o 203_o &_o 204._o dom●sti●kes_v ●f_a o●●_n fa●●h_o and_o branche_n of_o one_o and_o the_o same_o vine_n and_o hen_n e_o last_o it_o come_v that_o the_o lee_n n_v protestant_n as_o wee_a before_o 6._o before_o heretofore_o tract_n 1._o s●ct_n 6._o have_v she●ed_v do_v afford_v to_o our_o c●tho_n ike_z professor_n the_o ho_o efull_a promise_n of_o salvation_n affirm_v this_o to_o be_v finem_fw-la be_v m._n d._n some_o ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 176._o prope_fw-la finem_fw-la the_o judgement_n of_o a●l_a ●●a_n n●●_n pr●●e●tan●_n &_o use_v medium_n use_v m._n b●nny_n in_o his_o treatise_n tend_v to_o pacification_n pag._n 93._o circa_fw-la medium_n ●are_v by_o the_o wh●l●_n course_n of_o all_o ●heir_a writ●_n g_v in_o so_o ●uch_o archey_n doubt_v not_o to_o cha●ge_v such_o of_o their_o other_o headstrong_a brethren_n as_o affirm_v the_o contrary_a even_o with_o medium_n with_o mr._n d._n covell_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o m._n hooker_n pag._n 68_o paulo_n post_n medium_n ignorant_a zeal_n a_o brief_a repetition_n of_o ●he_n premise_n of_o this_o second_o chapter_n sect_n 14._o since_o therefore_o most_o gratiouse_a sover●igne_n it_o appear_v by_o the_o second_o chapter_n of_o this_o second_o tra●t_n ground_v upon_o the_o scripture_n and_o that_o confess_a sense_n thereof_o which_o our_o adversary_n themselves_o acknowledge_v 1_o first_o that_o the_o church_n pastor_n and_o ●_z their_v impugn_v of_o error_n administration_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament●_n must_v evermore_o z._n evermore_o see_v heretofore_o troth_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 1._o b._n c._n d._n &_o ibid._n n_o o._n u._n &_o ibidem_fw-la x._o y._n z._n continue_v in_o be_v 2_o second_o that_o where_o these_o be_v want_v there_o the_o true_a church_n be_v z._n be_v see_v heretofore_o troth_n 2._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 1_o y._n z._n not_o 3_o three_o that_o the_o example_n of_o 7._o of_o see_v heretofore_o troth_n 2._o c●p_n ●_o sect_n 7._o bertram_n the_o 3._o the_o see_v heretofore_o tract_n 2._o c._n 2._o sect_n 3._o wal●e_n s_o s_o 4._o s_o see_v heretofore_o tract_n 2._o cap._n 2._o sect._n 4._o wi●liffe_n 5._o wi●liffe_n see_v heretofore_o troth_n 2._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 5._o huss_n ●nd_n 11._o ●nd_n see_v heretofore_o troth_n 2._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 10._o and_o 11._o luther_n upon_o which_o our_o adversary_n doe_n most_o insist_v and_o all_o other_o 7._o other_o see_v heretofore_o troth_n 2._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 7._o example_n of_o former_a time_n be_v altogether_o impertinent_a to_o enable_v but_o so_o much_o a_o respecti_fw-la ely_z for_o those_o time_n a_o continuan_a e_fw-la of_o their_o church_n administration_n of_o the_o word_n &_o sacrament_n in_o so_o much_o as_o themselves_o be_v urge_v to_o confess_v that_o the_o same_o have_v continue_v latent_fw-la and_o z._n and_o see_v heretofore_o troth_n 2_o c._n 1._o sect_n 4._o p._n q._n r._n s_o t._n u._n x._o y._n z._n invisible_a to_o the_o world_n at_o the_o least_o for_o these_o 1000_o year_n l_o st_z past_a 4_o four_o why_o h_o po●nt_n only_o wo●●d_v suffice_v to_o convince_v our_o adversary_n t●at_v not_o so_o much_o as_o a_o one_o example_n thereof_o can_v be_v find_v b●t_v during_o even_o the_o last_o xx_o 11._o xx_o see_v heretofore_o troth_n 2._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 11._o year_n before_o luther_n first_o preach_v against_o the_o pope_n which_o be_v yet_o within_o the_o memory_n of_o t●is_n present_a age_n 5_o five_o th●t_n in_o regard_v thereof_o our_o adversary_n a_n e_o for_o preservation_n of_o themselves_o urge_v to_o flee_v i._n flee_v heretofore_o tract_n 2._o c●p_n 2._o sect_n 13_o y._n &_o ibidem_fw-la z._n b_o c._n d._n e._n f._n g._n h._n i._n to_o our_o catholic_a church_n who_o pastor_n administration_n of_o the_o word_n &_o sacrament_n have_v accord_v to_o their_o former_a confession_n continue_v y._n continue_v see_v heretofore_o troth_n 1._o sect_n 2._o &_o tract_n 2._o cap._n 1._o sect_n 4._o q._n r._n s_o t_o y._n know_v and_o visible_a ●or_a 1300._o year_n last_o ●ast_n &_o so_o to_o acknowledge_v it_o for_o a_o true_a c._n true_a see_v heretofore_o troth_n 1._o sect_n 6._o e._n f._n &_o ibidem_fw-la g._n h._n l._n &_o tract_n 2._o ca._n 2._o sect_n 13_o b._n c._n church_n whereof_o lu●her_n at_o and_o after_o his_o s●●d_n fi●st_v pray_fw-mi c●●ing_a be_v and_o y._n and_o heretofore_o tract_n 2._o cap._n 2._o sect_n 13._o y._n continue_v accord_v to_o their_o enforced_a con●ession_n a_o know_a and_o professed_a member_n we_o do_v most_o humb_o ●e_v now_o hereupon_o appeal_v to_o your_o majesty_n concern_v the_o equity_n of_o this_o our_o pre●ent_a apology_n and_o whether_o ●h_a t_o we_o have_v not_o she_o by_o great_a cause_n to_o stand_v a●_n we_o do_v against_o our_o adversary_n in_o defence_n of_o our_o catholic_a church_n and_o when_o her_o also_o that_o they_o be_v not_o in_o all_o sen●e_n and_o reason_n fo●nde_v of_o all_o other_o most_o unreasonable_a n_o thei●_n seek_v further_o to_o afflict_v &_o persecute_v the_o same_o the_o third_z tract_n first_o chapter_n sect_n 1._o concern_v the_o confess_v antiquity_n of_o catholic_a priesthood_n confe_fw-mi sion_fw-la absolution_n mass_n etc._n etc._n and_o of_o the_o penal_a law_n make_v against_o they_o albeit_o most_o gracious_a sovereign_n that_o in_o regard_n of_o these_o so_o plain_a and_o confess_v premise_n already_o allege_v in_o behalf_n of_o our_o catholic_a faith_n the_o same_o can_v appear_v even_o to_o our_o enemy_n no_o less_o than_o worthy_a of_o all_o reverend_a &_o due_a estim_a tion_n such_o yet_o nevertheless_o have_v be_v the_o calamity_n of_o our_o former_a ti●es_n the_o it_o even_o for_o this_o faith_n though_o th●s_v bewt●full_a with_o all_o this_o outward_a o_o na●et_v of_o confessed_a probability_n which_o be_v indeed_o but_o as_o it_o be_v the_o mother_n pear●e_o contain_v under_o it_o such_o further_a special_a proof_n fr●m_v scripture_n father_n ●nd_n protestant_n writer_n s_o be_v much_o more_o orient_a ●nd_n rich_o demonstrative_a the_o particulars_n whereof_o we_o humble_o pray_v but_o by_o this_o discourse_n m●de_v only_o in_o general_a da●e_n not_o presume_v to_o offer_v to_o your_o majesty_n we_o h●ue_v for_o many_o year_n pass_v sustain_v the_o imposition_n of_o sundry_a penal_a law_n the_o catholic_a priesthood_n catholic_a s._n chrysostom_n write_v a_o special_a book_n of_o this_o priesthood_n priest_n hood_n of_o our_o spiritua_n l_o pastor_n who_o as_o st._n austin_n say_v be_v now_o not_o ●●properlie_o but_o sacerdotes_fw-la but_o aug._n the_o civ_o dei_fw-la l._n 20._o c._n 10._o post_v medium_n say_v non_fw-la utique_fw-la de_fw-fr solis_fw-la episcopis_fw-la &_o presb●teris_fw-la d●ctum_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-fr ●an_v prope_a vocantur_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la proper_o call_v priest_n in_o th●_n church_n and_o to_o w●om_n therefore_o the_o word_n presbyter_n and_o sa●●rd_n s_o be_v ●nd_v fferent_o antiquity_n fferent_o a●gust●●_n ut_fw-la supra_fw-la &_o the_o greek_a word_n hiereus_n which_o signify_v sacerdos_n be_v use_v and_o refer_v to_o christian_a priest_n by_o dionysius_n areopagita_n de_fw-fr eccles_n hierarch_n c._n 5._o &_o epist_n 8._o ad_fw-la demophilum_fw-la monachus_fw-la and_o ignatius_n in_o his_o undoubted_a epistle_n ad_fw-la smyrnenses_n now_o extante_n whereof_o divers_a sentence_n be_v verbatim_o allege_v under_o the_o name_n of_o ignatius_n and_o title_n of_o this_o epistle_n by_o hierom._n lib._n de_fw-la viris_fw-la illustribus_fw-la and_o by_o eusebius_n lib._n 3._o cap._n 32._o as_o be_v more_o at_o large_a urge_v and_o prove_v by_o the_o l._n archbishop_n of_o canturburie_n in_o his_o defence_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 408._o circa_fw-la medium_n &_o he_o not_o so_o much_o as_o therein_o gainsaid_a by_o carthwright_n affirm_v the_o bishop_n to_o be_v as_o the_o high_a priest_n &_o chr●sts_n image_n in_o respect_n that_o he_o sacrifice_v affirm_v further_a that_o in_o the_o church_n nothing_o be_v great_a than_o the_o bishop_n who_o sacrifice_v to_o god_n for_o the_o safety_n of_o the_o w●ole_a world_n and_o nazianz●●_n in_o epist_n 8._o ad_fw-la simplicium_fw-la heret_fw-la affirm_v the_o priest_n to_o be_v the_o mediator_n between_o god_n and_o man_n and_o sacrifice_v together_o with_o christ_n this_o point_n be_v so_o evident_a and_o common_a in_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a father_n that_o m._n whitaker_n lib._n 9_o contra_fw-la d●●●am_fw-la pag._n 813_o initio_fw-la acknowledge_v the_o same_o and_o answer_v only_o that_o the_o say_v father_n use_v the_o word_n h●●reus_n and_o sacerdos_n non_fw-la proprie_fw-la sed_fw-la catacrestico_v not_o proper_o direct_o against_o
most_o worthy_a honourable_a and_o able_a instrument_n most_o instant_o urge_v &_o require_v it_o concern_v the_o evident_a incertainety_n &_o disagreement_n of_o protestant_n in_o their_o faith_n and_o the_o reason_n &_o particular_a example_n thereof_o with_o a_o like_a humble_a petition_n thereupon_o for_o disputation_n sect_n 7._o and_o now_o last_o for_o so_o much_o as_o our_o learned_a adversary_n do_v hold_v 1_o first_o that_o concern_v matter_n of_o faith_n they_o faith_n they_o m._n w_n llet_n in_o his_o synopsis_n pag._n 38._o initio_fw-la say_v the_o scripture_n be_v not_o one_o of_o the_o mean_n but_o the_o sole_a whole_a &_o only_a mean_n to_o work_v faith_n be_v to_o believe_v nothing_o for_o certain_a but_o the_o holy_a scripture_n only_o 2_o second_o that_o medium_n that_o m._n d._n raynolds_n in_o his_o conference_n with_o harte_n pag_n 68_o ante_fw-la medium_n it_o be_v not_o the_o show_n but_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n of_o scripture_n that_o must_v decide_v controversy_n and_o that_o herein_o the_o scripture_n do_v not_o thing_n not_o m._n hooker_n in_o his_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n lib._n 2._o pag._n 116._o paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la medium_n say_v the_o scripture_n can_v not_o teach_v we_o the_o thing_n that_o be_v of_o god_n unless_o we_o do_v credit_n man_n who_o have_v teach_v we_o that_o the_o word●_n of_o scripture_n do_v signify_v those_o thing_n instruct_v they_o of_o itself_o but_o only_o by_o certain_a anabaptisticum_n certain_a m.d._n whitaker_n de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la scriptura_fw-la pag._n 521._o circa_fw-la medium_n say_v nam_fw-la quando_fw-la scriptura_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la vivam_fw-la vocem_fw-la quam_fw-la audiamus_fw-la utenuum_fw-la est_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la medijs_fw-la quibus_fw-la in_o vestigamus_fw-la quid_fw-la sit_fw-la ●_o nsus_fw-la quae_fw-la mens_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la and_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr ecclesi●_n contra_fw-la bellarminum_fw-la controu_fw-fr 2._o quaest_n 4._o pag._n 221._o ante_fw-la med_n demand_v of_o we_o if_o we_o affirm_v the_o church_n to_o interpret_v the_o scripture_n without_o mean_n say_v si_fw-mi sine_fw-la medijs_fw-la dixerunt_fw-la est_fw-la &_o anabaptisticum_n mean_n on_o their_o behalf_n to_o be_v observe_v 3_o three_o that_o these_o mean_n be_v affirm_v to_o be_v their_o 523._o their_o m._n d._n raynolds_n in_o his_o conference_n pag._n 83._o 84._o 92._o 98._o 99_o and_o m._n whitaker_n de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la scriptura_fw-la pag._n 521._o 522._o 523._o ree_n thereof_o their_o conf●rences_n of_o place_n their_o weigh_v of_o the_o circumstance_n of_o the_o text_n their_o skill_n in_o the_o tongue_n their_o diligence_n prayer_n and_o such_o like_a in_o which_o if_o they_o err_v they_o do_v also_o thereby_o err_v in_o the_o r_o understand_v of_o the_o scripture_n 4_o four_o that_o these_o be_v action_n on_o their_o behalf_n be_v but_o humane_a endeavour_n &_o such_o wherein_o every_o man_n without_o extraordinary_a privilege_n from_o god_n be_v subject_a to_o errare_fw-la to_o lubbertus_n de_fw-fr principijs_fw-la christian_n dog_n pag._n 563._o initio_fw-la say_v of_o the_o le●r●●d_a interpreter_n hos_fw-la omnes_fw-la ut_fw-la interpretando_fw-la errare_fw-la post_n ostendimus_fw-la ita_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o iudicando_fw-la errare_fw-la posse_fw-la asserimus_fw-la and_o hierome_n zanchius_n de_fw-fr sacra_fw-la scriptura_fw-la pag._n 411._o fine_a &_o 412._o initio_fw-la say_v of_o they_o cum_fw-la judicio_fw-la eos_fw-la audiamus_fw-la p●rsu_fw-la si_fw-la eos_fw-la esse_fw-la homines_fw-la &_o potu●ss●_n ac_fw-la post_n errare_fw-la error_n oversight_n &_o man_n infirmity_n all_o his_o prayer_n and_o possible_a diligence_n notwithstanding_o 5_o five_o that_o in_o full_a demonstration_n hereof_o aswell_o martin_n initi●_n martin_n m._n bridge_n in_o his_o defence_n o●_n the_o government_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 559._o &_o m._n perkine_n in_o his_o four_o treatize_n tract_n how_o to_o apply_v god_n word_n etc._n etc._n s●ct_n 10._o initi●_n luther_n who_o themselves_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v 4.2_o be_v apolog._n angl._n part_n 4._o c_o 4.2_o a_o man_n send_v of_o god_n to_o lighten_v the_o world_n initio_fw-la world_n f●x●_n in_o his_o act_n &_o monument_n pag._n 416._o a._n initio_fw-la the_o h●lias_n conductor_n and_o chariot_n of_o israel_n who_o calling_n they_o think_v initio_fw-la think_v aretius_n loc._n comun_n loc_fw-la 63._o pag._n 198._o circa_fw-la medium_n and_o danaeus_n in_o isagog_n christian_n part_n 4._o lib._n 2._o pag._n 36._o initio_fw-la extraordinary_a and_o special_o fine_a special_o the_o book_n entitle_v antic●r●stus_n sive_fw-la prognostic_n finis_fw-la mundi_fw-la pag._n 12._o 13._o &_o 86._o fine_a and_o schluse_a burg_n in_o cai●●_n haeret._n lib._n 13_o &_o vit_fw-mi pag._n 314_o and_o 316_o fine_a foreshow_v the_o scripture_n &_o since_o foretell_v in_o like_a manner_n by_o 324._o by_o act._n m●n_z pag._n 399._o b._n initio_fw-la and_o 〈◊〉_d in_o ap●ca●_n pag._n 324._o s●ndry_a prophecy_n that_o go_v of_o he_o himself_o be_v furthermore_o affirm_v to_o be_v there_o be_v ●leydane_a in_o engli●●_n 101._o 222._o b._n paulo_fw-la post_fw-la medium_n and_o see_v the_o margin_n there_o a_o prophet_n and_o most_o assure_a and_o volo_fw-la and_o luther_n adversus_fw-la falso_fw-la nominatum_fw-la ecclesiasticum_fw-la statum_fw-la say_v scire_fw-la vos_fw-la volo_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o posterum_fw-la non_fw-la amplius_fw-la vos_fw-la hoc_fw-la honore_fw-la dignabor_fw-la ut_fw-la sinam_fw-la vel_fw-la vos_fw-la vel_fw-la ipsos_fw-la angelos_fw-la de_fw-la coelo_fw-la de_fw-la mea_fw-la doctrina_fw-la iudicare_fw-la etc._n etc._n nec_fw-la volo_fw-la meam_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la à_fw-la quoquam_fw-la iudicari_fw-la atque_fw-la adeò_fw-la ne_fw-la ab_fw-la angelis_fw-la quidem_fw-la cum_fw-la enim_fw-la certus_fw-la de●ea_fw-la sim_fw-la per_fw-la eam_fw-la quoque_fw-la &_o vester_fw-ge &_o angelorum_fw-la iudex_fw-la esse_fw-la volo_fw-la certain_a of_o this_o doctrine_n and_o likewise_o initio_fw-la likewise_o m._n whitguift_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o admonition_n pag._n 201_o circa_fw-la med_n and_o m._n spark_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o m._n john_n d'_fw-fr albines_n pag._n 107._o initio_fw-la calvine_n beza_n calvine_n m._n d._n sutclyffe_n and_o d._n saravia_n have_v write_v whole_a treatize_n hereof_o against_o beza_n beza_n absurdity_n beza_n in_o m._n whitguift_n defence_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 522._o initio_fw-la m._n cartwright_n say_v bucer_n though_o otherwise_o very_o learned_a have_v gross_a absurdity_n bucer_n etc._n etc._n and_o sundry_a of_o the_o 94_o the_o m.d._n fulke_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o a_o counterfeit_n catholic_a pag._n 35._o &_o 87._o &_o gomarus_n in_o speculo_fw-la verae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la christi_fw-la pa._n 93._o &_o 94_o ancient_a father_n and_o general_n 92._o general_n m._n fulke_o ibidem_fw-la pag._n 89._o &_o 90._o and_o m._n willet_n in_o his_o synopsis_n pag._n 92._o counsel_n be_v according_o affirm_v to_o have_v err_v notwithstanding_o all_o their_o prayer_n and_o possible_a diligence_n in_o confer_v the_o scripture_n as_o also_o it_o be_v further_o teach_v that_o even_o fine_a even_o m._n fulke_o ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 86._o fine_a the_o whole_a church_n millitant_a may_v err_v altogether_o as_o every_o part_n thereof_o these_o be_v the_o confess_a ground_n and_o principle_n of_o our_o adversary_n doctrine_n they_o do_v appear_v to_o be_v no_o other_o but_o as_o it_o be_v link_v chain_n or_o naked_a convection_n of_o unavoidable_a incertainetie_n and_o be_v such_o can_v therefore_o afford_v to_o our_o adversary_n not_o assure_v knowledge_n or_o certainty_n of_o faith_n etc._n faith_n m._n whitaker_n de_fw-fr ecclesia_fw-la contra_fw-la bellarminum_fw-la controu_fw-fr 2._o quaest_n 4._o pag._n 221._o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la med_a say_v hereof_o qualia_fw-la illa_fw-la media_fw-la sunt_fw-la talem_fw-la ipsam_fw-la interpretationem_fw-la este_fw-la 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