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chief_a controversy_n handle_v in_o these_o two_o encounter_n in_o the_o first_o encounter_n who_o be_v proper_o catholyk_v and_o who_o heretyk_v by_o the_o old_a law_n of_o cath._n christian_n emperor_n and_o whether_o the_o law_n make_v against_o heretyk_n by_o these_o emperor_n do_v touch_v protestant_n or_o papist_n at_o this_o day_n in_o england_n annotat_fw-la upon_o the_o epist_n of_o o.e._n &_o cap._n 2._o num_fw-la 2._o how_o a_o man_n may_v make_v a_o most_o clear_a and_o evident_a deduction_n of_o cath._n religion_n by_o the_o foresaid_a imperial_a law_n if_o no_o other_o proof_n be_v and_o whether_o ever_o any_o christian_a be_v punishable_a before_o our_o time_n for_o stick_v to_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n in_o religion_n ibid._n num_fw-la 12.13.27.28_o etc._n etc._n how_o old_a christian_a emperor_n do_v promulgate_v law_n about_o religion_n &_o against_o the_o transgressor_n thereof_o &_o how_o different_a a_o thing_n it_o be_v from_o that_o which_o protestant_a prince_n be_v teach_v to_o do_v at_o this_o day_n ibid._n what_o be_v the_o old_a rule_n of_o faith_n so_o much_o esteem_v and_o talk_v of_o among_o the_o ancient_a father_n &_o how_o cathol_o &_o heretyk_n may_v easy_o &_o evident_o be_v try_v by_o thesame_n cap._n 15._o whether_o the_o english-parlament_n rule_v of_o faith_n set_v down_o by_o o.e._n be_v sufficient_a to_o discern_v catholyk_n from_o heretic_n and_o whether_o a_o parliament_n can_v make_v any_o rule_n of_o faith_n cap._n 16._o num_fw-la 1.2_o etc._n etc._n whether_o canonist_n do_v call_v the_o pope_n god_n or_o no_o and_o how_o false_a s._n francis_n and_o his_o chaplayne_n be_v find_v in_o this_o point_n cap._n 2._o &_o 3_o &_o enc._n 2._o cap._n 3._o num_fw-la 10.11.12_o etc._n etc._n in_o what_o sense_n a_o creature_n may_v be_v call_v god_n and_o how_o constantine_n the_o great_a do_v call_v pope_n silvester_n so_o cap._n 2._o &_o 3._o what_o wonderful_a reverend_a opinion_n the_o ancient_a father_n have_v of_o the_o high_a and_o divine_a power_n give_v to_o priest_n upon_o earth_n especial_o to_o the_o high_a priest_n ibid._n whether_o protestant_n have_v union_n among_o they_o or_o any_o mean_a to_o make_v union_n or_o to_o find_v out_o certainty_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n cap._n 4._o num_fw-la 10._o item_n cap._n 5.6.14.15.16.17_o what_o synod_n and_o counsel_n conference_n conventicle_n and_o other_o meeting_n protestant_n have_v have_v throughout_o the_o world_n to_o procure_v some_o show_n of_o union_n but_o eveâ—_o have_v depart_v more_o disagree_v then_o before_o cap._n 4._o num_fw-la 12.13_o whether_o lutheran_n and_o caluinist_n may_v any_o way_n be_v say_v to_o be_v brethren_n or_o of_o one_o church_n as_o both_o s._n f._n &_o john_n fox_n do_v hold_v cap._n 3_o 4.5_o etc._n etc._n whether_o zwinglian_o and_o caluinist_n and_o other_o sacramentary_a protestans_fw-la be_v true_o heretic_n according_a to_o the_o judgement_n and_o sentence_n of_o martin_n luther_n and_o what_o blessing_n he_o give_v they_o as_o to_o bastard_n child_n ca._n 5._o n._n 1.2.3_o etc._n etc._n whether_o english_a protestant_n and_o puritan_n do_v agree_v in_o jesus_n christ_n crucify_v as_o s._n f._n say_v or_o may_v be_v account_v true_a brethren_n &_o of_o one_o church_n ca._n 6._o &_o 10_o n._n 8._o etc._n etc._n 12._o n._n 6._o whether_o liberty_n for_o all_o unlearned_a to_o read_v scripture_n in_o english_a without_o difference_n or_o restraint_n be_v a_o blessing_n or_o a_o curse_n profitable_a or_o hurtful_a to_o the_o people_n ca._n 8._o &_o enc._n 2._o c._n 3._o whether_o publyke_a service_n in_o english_a be_v a_o hurt_n or_o benefit_n to_o all_o sort_n of_o people_n cap._n 8._o num_fw-la 7._o &_o cap._n 9_o whether_o and_o how_o the_o merit_n of_o holy_a man_n may_v stand_v with_o merit_n &_o satisfaction_n of_o christ._n cap._n 9_o num_fw-la 7.8.9_o whether_o abundance_n of_o good_a work_n be_v a_o peculiar_a blessing_n of_o protestant_n or_o no_o as_o s._n f._n defend_v cap._n 10._o n._n 2.3_o 4.5_o &_o cap._n 17._o &_o 18._o whether_o english_a nobility_n and_o commonalty_n be_v rich_a at_o this_o day_n then_o in_o old_a time_n by_o change_n of_o religion_n cap._n 11._o num_fw-la 7.8.9_o etc._n etc._n whether_o it_o be_v a_o special_a grace_n and_o bless_a nature_n of_o protestant_n to_o persecute_v no_o man_n for_o religion_n cap._n 10._o whether_o freedom_n from_o exaction_n long_a peace_n great_a power_n in_o other_o country_n great_a wealth_n of_o the_o land_n and_o more_o abundant_a multiply_v of_o child_n then_o before_o be_v special_a benefit_n and_o benediction_n bring_v into_o england_n by_o change_n of_o religion_n cap._n 11._o whether_o the_o universal_a church_n may_v be_v say_v proper_o to_o teach_v we_o or_o no_o which_o o._n e._n deni_v cap._n 11._o num_fw-la 12._o whether_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n be_v a_o new_a invention_n or_o no_o and_o whether_o the_o number_n of_o 7._o sacrament_n be_v not_o agree_v on_o before_o the_o late_a council_n of_o trent_n as_o o.e._n affirm_v cap._n 13._o num_fw-la 7.8.9.10_o etc._n etc._n how_o far_o catholyke_a man_n do_v depend_v of_o the_o pope_n for_o the_o certainty_n of_o their_o religion_n ca._n 16._o n._n 17.18.19_o enc._n 2._o c._n 13._o n._n 16._o whether_o any_o one_o new_a or_o old_a heresy_n can_v be_v prove_v true_o to_o be_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o papist_n at_o this_o day_n and_o how_o that_o there_o be_v many_o proper_o and_o formal_o hold_v by_o protestant_n cap._n 16._o num_fw-la 20._o what_o difference_n of_o doctrine_n or_o opinion_n may_v be_v among_o cath._n man_n without_o heresy_n or_o breach_n of_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n according_a to_o the_o ancient_a father_n cap._n 16._o num_fw-la 6._o how_o contemptuous_o the_o protestant_n do_v speak_v not_o only_o of_o the_o old_a father_n but_o also_o of_o their_o own_o writer_n when_o they_o make_v against_o they_o cap._n 17._o num_fw-la 17._o whether_o temporal_a blessing_n enter_v into_o england_n and_o other_o country_n round_o about_o with_o the_o new_a gospel_n and_o change_n of_o the_o old_a religion_n cap._n 12._o &_o 13.14_o &_o 18._o how_o many_o and_o how_o great_a inconvenience_n in_o matter_n of_o state_n &_o otherwise_o have_v ensue_v in_o england_n by_o change_n of_o religion_n since_o k._n henry_n the_o 8._o his_o departure_n from_o the_o union_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n cap._n 17._o &_o 18._o in_o the_o second_o encounter_n whether_o there_o be_v more_o darkness_n &_o ignorance_n in_o q._n maryes_fw-mi time_n &_o former_a age_n than_o now_o &_o whether_o protestant_n be_v better_a learned_a than_o catholyk_n cap._n 2._o num_fw-la 18.19_o &_o cap._n 3.4_o &_o 6._o whether_o friar_n weâ—e_v brave_a liar_n in_o k._n richard_n 2._o his_o time_n as_o s.f._n say_v and_o what_o manner_n of_o friar_n they_o be_v to_o wit_n corrupt_v by_o wickliff_n cap._n 2._o num_fw-la 11._o whether_o scripture_n be_v read_v general_o in_o english_a in_o s._n bede_n his_o time_n or_o no_o cap._n 3._o num_fw-la 5.6_o etc._n etc._n whether_o john_n husse_v and_o martin_n luther_n offer_v disputation_n to_o catholyk_n or_o no_o and_o whether_o they_o be_v of_o one_o and_o thesame_a religion_n or_o that_o any_o of_o they_o do_v agree_v full_o with_o s._n francis_n and_o o._n e._n in_o their_o religion_n now_o profess_v cap._n 3._o &_o 4._o whether_o the_o catholyk_n or_o hugonote_v minister_n in_o the_o conference_n at_o poysy_n in_o france_n anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1561._o have_v the_o better_a cap_n 4._o num_fw-la 14._o whether_o catholyk_n do_v ever_o hold_v it_o for_o heresy_n to_o read_v scripture_n in_o english_a or_o have_v ever_o put_v man_n or_o woman_n to_o death_n for_o that_o fact_n only_o cap._n 4._o &_o 5._o &_o 6._o num_fw-la 12._o &_o 15._o &_o cap._n 9_o num_fw-la 3._o whether_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v use_v to_o pray_v to_o saint_n and_o
angel_n or_o no_o cap._n 6._o num_fw-la 6._o num_fw-la 8._o whether_o the_o name_n of_o lucifugi_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la or_o scripture-battes_n use_v by_o tertullian_n do_v proper_o agree_v to_o protestant_n or_o catholyks_n cap._n 6._o num_fw-la 24.25.26_o etc._n etc._n whether_o ignorance_n be_v hold_v by_o catholyk_n to_o be_v the_o mother_n of_o devotion_n cap._n 7._o num_fw-la 1.2_o etc._n etc._n whether_o ignorance_n in_o some_o point_n concern_v religion_n may_v in_o some_o people_n be_v commendable_a and_o meritorious_a as_o s._n hilary_n say_v or_o not_o ibid._n cap._n 8._o num_fw-la 3._o whether_o the_o distinction_n of_o fides_fw-la implicita_fw-la and_o explicita_fw-la be_v a_o true_a &_o necessary_a distinction_n for_o the_o salvation_n of_o many_o man_n soul_n which_o can_v possible_o be_v save_v without_o the_o use_n thereof_o cap_n 7._o num_fw-la 6._o whether_o it_o be_v true_a that_o catholyk_v teach_v that_o layman_n must_v not_o meddle_v in_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o how_o far_o they_o be_v to_o meddle_v cap._n â—_o why_o the_o cath._n church_n do_v use_v index_n expurgatorius_fw-la against_o the_o corruption_n of_o heretyk_n and_o their_o book_n how_o it_o must_v be_v use_v and_o what_o great_a good_a ensue_v thereof_o cap._n 9_o num_fw-la 23.24_o etc._n etc._n whether_o s._n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n be_v a_o true_a martyr_n and_o of_o his_o miracle_n cap._n 10._o &_o 11._o whether_o his_o case_n be_v like_o the_o case_n of_o s._n john_n bapt._n with_o his_o king_n or_o of_o s._n ambrose_n with_o his_o emperor_n or_o no_o cap._n 10._o whether_o the_o miracle_n wrought_v by_o s._n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n after_o his_o death_n be_v true_a miracle_n and_o do_v prove_v he_o a_o saint_n or_o no._n cap._n 11._o which_o be_v the_o better_a spirit_n and_o more_o conform_a to_o scripture_n and_o the_o old_a father_n to_o believe_v easy_o miracle_n or_o to_o discredit_v they_o cap._n 11._o num_fw-la 19_o how_o true_a saint_n may_v be_v 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the_o 〈…〉_o justify_v by_o 〈…〉_o at_o the_o present_a 〈…〉_o chair_n 〈…〉_o and_o not_o only_o 〈…〉_o man_n judge_v how_o 〈…〉_o justify_v himself_o and_o his_o accuâ—aâ—â—on_n but_o yet_o to_o the_o end_n he_o may_v seem_v to_o say_v something_o to_o prove_v that_o pope_n command_z sometime_o both_o blasphemy_n and_o disloyalty_n he_o allege_v for_o the_o first_o about_o blasphemy_n certain_a piece_n of_o prayer_n out_o of_o portiphorium_fw-la use_v upon_o the_o festival_n day_n of_o s._n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n tuper_n thoma_n sanguinem_fw-la prayer_n 〈…〉_o our_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n which_o the_o k_o t._n to_o show_v himself_o a_o good_a versifier_n put_v down_o in_o a_o poem_n thus_o by_o the_o blood_n of_o thomas_n which_o he_o for_o thou_o do_v spend_v make_v we_o o_o christ_n to_o climb_v whither_o tho._n do_v ascend_v and_o then_o again_o opem_fw-la nobis_fw-la o_o thoma_n porridge_n etc._n etc._n o_o thomas_n lend_v we_o thy_o help_n etc._n etc._n out_o of_o which_o word_n 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as_o 13._o as_o before_o i_o haveâ—_n show_v by_o many_o example_n and_o may_v do_v here_o much_o more_o if_o i_o will_v stand_v therein_o nor_o dare_v s_n r._n francis_n 13._o or_o any_o heretyke_a in_o the_o world_n to_o join_v issue_n upon_o this_o point_n of_o all_o holy_a father_n practice_n in_o this_o behalf_n but_o only_o be_v force_v to_o say_v of_o they_o as_o they_o do_v of_o we_o that_o it_o be_v ignorance_n blasphemy_n or_o simplicity_n in_o they_o and_o now_o after_o this_o sharp_a encounter_n against_o the_o name_n of_o the_o blood_n and_o merit_n of_o s._n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n the_o knight_n choler_n and_o pride_n mount_v up_o to_o the_o assault_n of_o a_o far_o high_a saint_n which_o be_v the_o mother_n of_o god_n herself_o who_o sacred_a conception_n he_o take_v heynous_o that_o it_o shall_v be_v honour_v with_o a_o several_a feast_n and_o holy_a day_n by_o pope_n sixtus_n quartus_fw-la for_o thus_o he_o write_v sixtus_n the_o four_o take_v up_o the_o 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from_o original_a sin_n yet_o do_v he_o never_o decree_v the_o same_o but_o leave_v it_o â—ree_v for_o every_o 〈…〉_o he_o will_v therein_o 〈…〉_o trouble_v or_o 〈…〉_o appear_v by_o 〈…〉_o sixtus_n extant_a in_o 〈…〉_o a_o 1466._o and_o 〈…〉_o the_o same_o 〈…〉_o of_o pope_n 〈◊〉_d quintus_fw-la 〈◊〉_d super_fw-la specula_fw-la wherein_o refer_v himself_o to_o the_o former_a constitution_n of_o sixtus_n quartus_n &_o to_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n ses._n 5._o in_o the_o decree_n of_o original_a sin_n the_o last_o paragraphe_n where_o the_o say_a constitution_n of_o sixtus_n be_v also_o mention_v and_o approve_a untruth_n this_o constitution_n of_o pius_n 5._o have_v these_o word_n liberam_fw-la cuique_fw-la faculâ—atem_fw-la relinquentes_fw-la opinandi_fw-la huius_fw-la controversiae_fw-la quamlibet_fw-la partem_fw-la prout_fw-la vel_fw-la magis_fw-la piam_fw-la â—el_a magis_fw-la probabilem_fw-la esse_fw-la indicaverit_fw-la leave_v to_o every_o man_n freedom_n to_o hold_v in_o this_o controversy_n what_o opinion_n he_o think_v more_o godly_a or_o more_o probable_a this_o ordain_v pius_n 5._o withal_o indifferency_n though_o he_o be_v of_o s._n dominiks_n order_n and_o nothing_o different_a from_o that_o which_o sixtus_n 4._o of_o s._n francis_n order_n have_v ordain_v before_o he_o so_o as_o hereby_o be_v see_v the_o first_o foul_a untruthe_n of_o our_o knight_n avouch_v that_o pope_n sixtus_n 4._o have_v decree_v the_o question_n on_o the_o other_o side_n and_o of_o this_o first_o follow_v the_o second_o untruth_n more_o foul_a than_o the_o former_a untruth_n â—_o untruth_n if_o it_o may_v be_v where_o he_o say_v that_o pope_n sixtus_n excommunicate_v and_o condemn_v they_o for_o heretyk_n that_o be_v of_o the_o other_o opinion_n the_o plain_a opposite_a and_o contrary_n whereof_o be_v set_v down_o in_o sixtus_n his_o 〈…〉_o simili_fw-la poena_fw-la 〈…〉_o asserrere_fw-la 〈…〉_o gloriosam_fw-la 〈…〉_o to_o fuisse_fw-la conceptam_fw-la 〈…〉_o mortale_fw-la cùm_fw-la 〈…〉_o sede_fw-la decisum_fw-la we_o 〈…〉_o and_o censure_n all_o tâ—ose_n 〈…〉_o to_o affirm_v that_o those_o who_o hold_v the_o contrary_a opinion_n untruth_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o glorious_a virgin_n mary_n be_v conceive_v in_o original_a sin_n to_o incur_v heresy_n or_o mortal_a sin_n thereby_o untruth_n see_v that_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o yet_o decide_v by_o the_o roman_a church_n and_o sea_n apostolyke_n in_o which_o word_n we_o see_v two_o point_n most_o evident_a for_o convince_a the_o former_a two_o falsehood_n of_o the_o knight_n the_o one_o that_o the_o pope_n himself_o affirm_v here_o that_o the_o matter_n be_v not_o yet_o decide_v by_o he_o or_o the_o sea_n apostolyk_n the_o second_o that_o he_o be_v so_o far_o of_o from_o excommunicate_v or_o condemn_v for_o heretyk_n those_o that_o hold_v the_o contrary_a opinion_n to_o his_o as_o s_o r._n francis_n say_v here_o he_o do_v that_o he_o excommunicate_v all_o those_o that_o shall_v hold_v they_o for_o heretyk_n or_o
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53._o that_o albeit_o the_o pope_n and_o his_o clergy_n command_z blasphemy_n etc._n etc._n yet_o must_v he_o be_v obey_v upon_o pain_n of_o damnation_n he_o add_v present_o and_o his_o meaning_n be_v most_o true_a not_o so_o much_o defend_v the_o word_n as_o the_o meaning_n of_o the_o writer_n as_o though_o he_o have_v have_v conference_n with_o the_o knight_n about_o it_o for_o justify_v of_o which_o meaning_n he_o bring_v in_o this_o substantial_a proof_n james_n 〈…〉_o k._n henry_n the_o 〈…〉_o the_o popish_a 〈…〉_o this_o 〈…〉_o the_o proof_n 〈…〉_o he_o in_o the_o 〈…〉_o detestable_a 〈…〉_o example_n of_o god_n 〈…〉_o most_o excellent_a mystery_n of_o christ_n 〈…〉_o etc._n etc._n and_o then_o he_o quote_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d the_o oration_n of_o sixtus_n quintus_n and_z la_fw-fr sulmanante_n etc._n etc._n but_o first_o if_o all_o this_o be_v true_a which_o be_v most_o false_a and_o wicked_o devise_v out_o of_o his_o own_o finger_n end_n prove_v a_o vain_a ridiculous_a kind_n of_o prove_v 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though_o much_o be_v practise_v as_o to_o our_o grief_n we_o see_v from_o this_o he_o pass_v to_o allege_v certain_a old_a verse_n cite_v by_o kennitius_n as_o true_a a_o writer_n 〈…〉_o as_o he_o say_v in_o a_o stone_n in_o a_o 〈…〉_o the_o bituriges_n in_o aquitany_n 〈…〉_o nothing_o at_o all_o 〈…〉_o only_o exhort_v man_n to_o 〈…〉_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o 〈…〉_o by_o god_n and_o 〈…〉_o of_o scripture_n themselves_o 〈…〉_o our_o knight_n lack_v other_o 〈…〉_o they_o in_o against_o 〈◊〉_d some_o of_o they_o i_o shall_v allege_v hear_v for_o example_n sake_n 69._o 〈◊〉_d pag._n 69._o hic_fw-la des_fw-fr devotè_fw-fr coelestibus_fw-la associate_n mentes_n aegrotae_fw-la per_fw-la munera_fw-la sunt_fw-la tibi_fw-la lotae_fw-la ergo_fw-la veni_fw-la tote_fw-la gentes_fw-la à _fw-la sede_fw-la remotae_fw-la qui_fw-la datis_fw-la estote_fw-la certi_fw-la de_fw-la divite_fw-la dote_v hic_fw-la si_fw-la largè_fw-fr des_fw-fr in_o caelum_fw-la sit_fw-la tua_fw-la sedes_fw-la qui_fw-la serit_fw-la hic_fw-la parcè_fw-la parcè_fw-la comprendit_fw-la in_o arce_fw-la sir_n francis_n his_o translation_n give_v free_o here_o in_o heaven_n a_o place_n prepare_v your_o sickly_a soul_n by_o gift_n clean_o purge_v be_v come_v people_n then_o which_o dwell_v far_o from_o this_o place_n you_o that_o do_v give_v rest_v sure_a of_o much_o grace_n if_o thou_o give_v free_o here_o heaven_n be_v thy_o hire_n he_o that_o give_v little_a shall_v little_o there_o acquire_v these_o verse_n allege_v s_n r._n francis_n to_o make_v sport_n at_o indulgence_n but_o if_o you_o take_v away_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o latyn_a and_o poensy_n incident_a to_o that_o age_n they_o contain_v no_o absurdity_n at_o all_o but_o do_v set_v forth_o the_o force_n and_o virtue_n of_o alm_n in_o the_o very_a word_n almost_o that_o be_v find_v in_o scripture_n for_o in_o the_o 〈…〉_o day_n &_o dabitur_fw-la vobis_fw-la etc._n etc._n 〈…〉_o give_v unto_o you_o in_o 〈…〉_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n 〈…〉_o omne_fw-la 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we_o yet_o go_v not_o you_o currant_n but_o do_v halt_a down_o to_o the_o ground_n and_o that_o in_o three_o thing_n about_o this_o one_o text_n first_o in_o the_o citation_n then_o in_o the_o deduction_n or_o illation_n of_o the_o sense_n three_o in_o the_o word_n themselves_o allege_v and_o let_v the_o reader_n consider_v whether_o falsehood_n may_v be_v find_v in_o more_o point_n than_o these_o in_o the_o handle_n or_o allege_v of_o any_o author_n for_o the_o first_o though_o he_o name_n durandus_fw-la yet_o quote_v he_o no_o place_n shift_n the_o first_o shift_n where_o you_o may_v find_v it_o which_o for_o the_o most_o part_n as_o before_o we_o have_v note_v impli_v light_o some_o deceit_n or_o subtle_a trick_n in_o the_o allegation_n which_o he_o will_v not_o have_v discover_v as_o now_o by_o experience_n we_o have_v learn_v and_o the_o three_o point_n shall_v declare_v for_o the_o second_o about_o the_o illation_n he_o make_v out_o of_o the_o word_n of_o durand_n shift_n the_o 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