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A41792 Truth and peace, or, The last and most friendly debate concerning infant-baptism being a brief answer to a late book intituled, The case of infant-baptism (written by a doctor of the Church of England) ... whereunto is annexed a brief discourse of the sign of the cross in baptism, and of the use of the ring, and bowing at the altar, in the solemnization of marriage / by Thomas Grantham. Grantham, Thomas, 1634-1692. 1689 (1689) Wing G1550; ESTC R41720 89,378 100

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all_o that_o be_v like_a unto_o it_o and_o like_v unto_o this_o be_v the_o next_o follow_v p._n 36._o for_o though_o it_o be_v true_a that_o consider_v the_o previous_a law_n of_o circumcision_n gen._n 17._o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v doubt_v but_o that_o david_n or_o solomon_n will_v both_o observe_v it_o in_o any_o commission_n which_o they_o may_v give_v to_o propagate_v it_o but_o what_o be_v all_o this_o to_o the_o purpose_n where_o be_v the_o previous_a law_n that_o command_v infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v and_o such_o a_o law_n as_o must_v be_v suppose_v according_a to_o the_o similitude_n to_o oblige_v our_o david_n and_o solomon_n even_o christ_n himself_o to_o observe_v it_o where_o i_o say_v be_v this_o law_n to_o be_v find_v not_o in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n the_o doctor_n confess_v that_o where_o then_o why_o in_o the_o talmud_n the_o gemara_n etc._n etc._n very_o well_o but_o then_o this_o wretched_a talmud_n be_v not_o finish_v in_o our_o saviour_n day_n but_o 500_o year_n 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nature_n of_o the_o christian_n religion_n and_o that_o it_o be_v a_o impracticable_a principle_n etc._n etc._n p._n 49_o 50._o but_o that_o this_o great_a principle_n well_o understand_v shall_v be_v speak_v against_o by_o a_o protestant_n be_v something_o strange_a and_o especial_o that_o he_o do_v not_o suffer_v it_o to_o take_v place_n in_o that_o which_o be_v essential_a in_o a_o church-state_n as_o who_o be_v and_o who_o be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v be_v such_o a_o case_n but_o he_o will_v have_v infant-baptism_n to_o be_v admit_v as_o lawful_a and_o allowable_a though_o it_o be_v not_o warrant_v by_o precept_n nor_o example_n to_o free_v this_o principle_n from_o abuse_n as_o here_o suggest_v against_o it_o we_o will_v explain_v it_o as_o we_o hold_v and_o maintain_v it_o 1._o then_o we_o do_v not_o say_v that_o every_o thing_n which_o be_v natural_o or_o mere_o accidental_a and_o circumstantial_a in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n must_v have_v precept_n and_o example_n in_o 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