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regulam_fw-la catholici_fw-la episcopi_fw-la illo_fw-la tempore_fw-la suos_fw-la adversarios_fw-la haereticos_fw-la coëgerunt_fw-la ibidem_fw-la ubi_fw-la etiam_fw-la refert_fw-la illud_fw-la quod_fw-la suprà _fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la ex_fw-la hier._n de_fw-fr sancti_fw-la marci_n euangelio_fw-la per_fw-la sanctum_fw-la petrum_fw-la approbato_fw-la beginning_n he_o say_v papae_fw-la moderamen_fw-la &_o decisio_fw-la pro_fw-la irrefragabili_fw-la vero_fw-la tenebatur_fw-la à _fw-la patribus_fw-la the_o pope_n direction_n and_o decision_n be_v by_o the_o father_n mark_n that_o by_o the_o father_n hold_v for_o a_o truth_n which_o can_v be_v contradict_v to_o the_o same_o purpose_n be_v many_o thing_n add_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n which_o be_v of_o the_o prerogative_n of_o perpetual_a immunity_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n where_o among_o other_o thing_n he_o say_v that_o 48._o that_o propter_fw-la hanc_fw-la incorruptionem_fw-la &_o claritatem_fw-la famosam_fw-la omnes_fw-la 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woman_n 3._o antoninus_n his_o mind_n touch_v counsel_n pvto_n tamen_fw-la quod_fw-la si_fw-la papa_n moveretur_fw-la melioribus_fw-la rationibus_fw-la &_o authoritatibus_fw-la quà m_fw-la concilium_fw-la quod_fw-la standum_fw-la esset_fw-la sententiae_fw-la suae_fw-la no_o &_o concilium_fw-la potest_fw-la errare_fw-la sicut_fw-la aâ—ià s_fw-la erravit_fw-la super_fw-la matrimonium_fw-la contrahendum_fw-la inter_fw-la raptorem_fw-la &_o raptum_fw-la et_fw-la infrà _fw-la nec_fw-la obstat_fw-la si_fw-la dicatur_fw-la quod_fw-la concilium_fw-la generale_fw-mi non_fw-la potest_fw-la
intellecta_fw-la vel_fw-la à _fw-la nobis_fw-la s._n aug_n epist_n 111._o other_o book_n have_v not_o in_o every_o part_n that_o infallibility_n other_o writer_n have_v not_o such_o ample_a assistance_n as_o the_o sacred_a writer_n have_v si_fw-it divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la earum_fw-la sc_fw-la quae_fw-la canonicae_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la nominantur_fw-la perspicua_fw-la firmatur_fw-la authoritate_fw-la sine_fw-la ullae_fw-la dubitatione_n credendum_fw-la est_fw-la alijs_fw-la verò_fw-la testibus_fw-la vel_fw-la testimonijs_fw-la quibus_fw-la aliquid_fw-la credendum_fw-la esse_fw-la suadetur_fw-la tibi_fw-la credere_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la credere_fw-la liceat_fw-la quantum_fw-la ea_fw-la momenti_fw-la ad_fw-la faciendam_fw-la fidem_fw-la vel_fw-la habere_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la habere_fw-la perpenderis_fw-la baro_n p._n 336._o ex_fw-la aug._n epist_n 112._o 2._o the_o second_o exception_n be_v that_o s._n augustine_n in_o a_o other_o place_n epist_n 112._o speak_v not_o 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and_o urge_v the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n which_o do_v receive_v such_o as_o be_v penitent_a into_o communion_n without_o rebaptise_v he_o make_v this_o discourse_n 19_o discourse_n s._n aug._n de_fw-fr unit_fw-la eccles_n c._n 19_o if_o some_o wise_a man_n to_o who_o our_o lord_n jesus_n give_v testimony_n shall_v be_v consult_v of_o we_o in_o this_o question_n we_o ought_v not_o way_n to_o doubt_v of_o do_v or_o put_v in_o execution_n what_o he_o tell_v we_o lest_o we_o shall_v be_v esteem_v to_o repugn_v not_o so_o much_o he_o as_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n by_o who_o testimony_n he_o be_v commend_v now_o our_o lord_n jesus_n do_v give_v testimony_n to_o his_o church_n wherefore_o as_o that_o church_n diffuse_v through_o all_o nation_n begin_v at_o jerusalem_n do_v receive_v such_o penitent_n so_o without_o all_o wind_n and_o tergiversation_n thou_o be_v to_o be_v receive_v and_o if_o thou_o will_v not_o thou_o do_v most_o perniciouslie_o contrary_a to_o thy_o own_o salvation_n strive_v against_o not_o i_o or_o any_o man_n but_o our_o saviour_n himself_o whilst_o thou_o will_v not_o believe_v that_o thou_o be_v so_o to_o be_v admit_v as_o that_o church_n which_o he_o who_o not_o to_o believe_v thou_o do_v confess_v to_o be_v detestable_a commend_v with_o his_o testimony_n do_v admit_v the_o same_o be_v confirm_v out_o of_o the_o gospel_n wherein_o our_o bless_a saviour_n say_v to_o his_o apostle_n and_o disciple_n and_o in_o they_o to_o the_o church_n that_o they_o shall_v bear_v 15_o bear_v matth._n 24._o joan._n 15_o testimony_n of_o he_o yet_o the_o apostle_n the_o disciple_n the_o whole_a church_n be_v not_o scripture_n again_o 10._o again_o luc._n 10._o he_o that_o hear_v you_o hear_v i_o say_v our_o saviour_n he_o that_o contemn_v you_o contemn_v i_o there_o be_v therefore_o a_o authority_n alive_a and_o distinct_a from_o the_o write_a word_n which_o we_o must_v yield_v unto_o by_o s._n augustine_n also_o confess_v and_o consequent_o it_o be_v not_o in_o our_o choice_n to_o believe_v or_o contemn_v any_o but_o the_o scripture_n nor_o be_v the_o primitive_a christian_n without_o obligation_n of_o believe_v the_o gospel_n propose_v unto_o they_o by_o the_o apostle_n before_o it_o be_v write_v down_o as_o you_o know_v by_o those_o word_n which_o immediate_o follow_v their_o commission_n ult._n commission_n marc._n ult._n he_o that_o believe_v not_o shall_v be_v condemn_v to_o the_o place_n object_v 107._o supra_fw-la pag_n 107._o alijs_fw-la testibus_fw-la vel_fw-la testmonijs_fw-la quibus_fw-la aliquid_fw-la credendum_fw-la esse_fw-la suadetur_fw-la tibi_fw-la crederâ—_n vel_fw-la non_fw-la credere_fw-la liceat_fw-la quantum_fw-la ea_fw-la momenti_fw-la etc._n etc._n 108._o pag._n 108._o his_o word_n above_o cite_v do_v suggest_v a_o easy_a answer_n as_o this_o other_o not_o commend_v by_o this_o authority_n believe_v or_o not_o believe_v as_o you_o see_v cause_n but_o other_o commend_v by_o this_o authority_n you_o must_v believe_v as_o far_o as_o by_o it_o they_o be_v warrant_v and_o commend_v our_o saviour_n prove_v that_o those_o who_o believe_v moses_n and_o the_o prophet_n and_o the_o psalm_n must_v believe_v he_o for_o of_o he_o they_o give_v testimony_n the_o like_v it_o be_v of_o the_o church_n if_o you_o believe_v the_o prophet_n you_o must_v believe_v the_o universal_a church_n for_o they_o give_v testimony_n of_o it_o and_o as_o s._n augustine_n say_v more_o clear_a then_o of_o our_o 2._o our_o s._n augu._n enarr_n in_o psal_n 30._o conc_fw-fr 2._o saviour_n himself_o one_o testimony_n may_v warrant_v another_o and_o so_o they_o will_v become_v in_o a_o manner_n one_o he_o that_o obai_v the_o magistrate_n do_v therein_o honour_v the_o prince_n by_o who_o he_o be_v put_v in_o authority_n and_o he_o that_o yield_v all_o due_a reverence_n to_o prince_n do_v therein_o a_o duty_n unto_o god_n who_o command_v it_o we_o stoop_v to_o god_n when_o with_o all_o reverence_n we_o receive_v his_o 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ecclesiasticae_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la idem_fw-la in_o eâ—st_n ad_fw-la episc_n africa_n overthrow_v the_o contrary_a and_o to_o put_v the_o matter_n ibidem_fw-la matter_n ego_fw-la arbitrabar_fw-la omnium_fw-la quotquot_fw-la unquam_fw-la fuere_fw-la haereticorum_fw-la inanem_fw-la garrulitatem_fw-la nicaeno_n concilio_n sedatam_fw-la esse_fw-la nam_fw-la fides_fw-la quae_fw-la inibi_fw-la a_o patribus_fw-la secundum_fw-la sacras_fw-la scripturas_fw-la tradita_fw-la &_o confessionibus_fw-la confirmata_fw-la est_fw-la satis_fw-la mihi_fw-la idonea_fw-la efficax_n que_fw-fr videbatur_fw-la ad_fw-la omnem_fw-la impietatem_fw-la evertendam_fw-la &_o pietatem_fw-la eius_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o christo_fw-la est_fw-la fidei_fw-la constituendan_n atque_fw-la ideo_fw-la diversis_fw-la concilijs_fw-la per_fw-la gallian_n &_o hispanias_n &_o romae_fw-la celebratis_fw-la omnes_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la conventu_fw-la fuere_fw-la istos_fw-la luci_fw-la fugas_fw-la qui_fw-la seize_v etiamnum_fw-la 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epist._n ad_fw-la episc_n africa_n verbum_fw-la illud_fw-la domini_fw-la per_fw-la â—licaenum_fw-la concilium_fw-la manet_fw-la in_o aeterâ—um_fw-la as_o for_o the_o comparison_n which_o he_o â—akes_v with_o scripture_n it_o ibidem_fw-la it_o catholici_fw-la scripturam_fw-la sacram_fw-la non_fw-la subijciunt_fw-la sed_fw-la anteponunt_fw-la concilijs_fw-la neque_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la ulla_fw-la controversia_fw-la esâ—_n bellarm._n li._n 2._o de_fw-la concilijs_fw-la c._n 12._o quod_fw-la si_fw-la interdum_fw-la aliqâ—_n catholici_fw-la dicunt_fw-la scripturam_fw-la pendere_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la sive_fw-la 〈◊〉_d concilio_n non_fw-la intelligunt_fw-la quoad_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la &_o secundum_fw-la se_fw-la sed_fw-la quoad_fw-la explicationem_fw-la &_o quoad_fw-la nos_fw-la ibidem_fw-la hurt_v â—ot_n he_o that_o say_v the_o scripture_n where_o it_o be_v plain_a and_o universallie_o â—eceaved_v be_v more_o powerful_a than_o a_o council_n or_o that_o the_o eternal_a vertie_n 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praestaâ—_n paruulis_fw-la inter_fw-la extremos_fw-la errores_fw-la stabilem_fw-la retinens_fw-la veritatem_fw-la c._n 19_o in_o principio_fw-la that_o other_o also_o may_v conceive_v the_o same_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o waldensis_n be_v dispute_v there_o against_o wickleff_n about_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o creed_n we_o profess_v to_o believe_v and_o be_v therefore_o by_o he_o call_v thâ—_n church_n symbolical_a wickleff_n consider_v that_o the_o faith_n of_o it_o be_v to_o be_v indeficient_a it_o be_v still_o true_a to_o say_v there_o be_v such_o a_o church_n or_o congregation_n will_v have_v it_o to_o be_v the_o ibidem_fw-la the_o quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la nostra_fw-la symboliba_fw-la est_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la titulus_fw-la cap._n 17._o li._n 2._o mugit_fw-la acriter_fw-la wickleffus_fw-la contra_fw-la papam_fw-la &_o pastor_n ecclesiae_fw-la sub_fw-la titulo_fw-la iustae_fw-la appâ—lationis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la christi_fw-la quae_fw-la 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diâ—cultas_fw-la de_fw-la quidditate_fw-la huius_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la symbolicae_fw-la quam_fw-la utiâ—_n credere_fw-la debemus_fw-la etc._n etc._n ibidem_fw-la predestinate_a only_o who_o do_v final_o persevere_v in_o the_o faith_n waldensis_n over_o and_o above_o a_o indeficiencie_n do_v avouch_v and_o according_a to_o scripture_n matt._n ult._n luc._n 10._o joan._n 15._o &_o 21._o act._n 20._o cor._n 1.12_o ephes_n 4._o etc._n etc._n that_o it_o be_v to_o teach_v and_o give_v testimony_n of_o the_o truth_n in_o that_o sort_n that_o all_o may_v learn_v of_o it_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v to_o be_v a_o visible_a congregation_n die_v congregation_n ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la fidelium_fw-la congregatio_fw-la it_o involue_v a_o hierarchy_n ephes_n 4_o who_o tell_v wickleff_n that_o all_o the_o believer_n the_o predestinate_v only_o except_v do_v fall_n from_o the_o faith_n before_o they_o die_v or_o society_n hierachicallie_o dispose_v whence_o he_o determine_v it_o to_o be_v according_a to_o the_o word_n of_o the_o creed_n itself_o the_o catholic_a or_o universal_a church_n that_o be_v the_o wholeranke_a or_o company_n of_o the_o faithful_a people_n successivelie_o descend_v from_o the_o first_o assembly_n make_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o bank_n of_o jordan_n until_o our_o time_n and_o from_o henceforth_o until_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n and_o reach_v into_o all_o part_n of_o the_o world_n wheresoever_o the_o shine_a testimony_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o christ_n the_o head_n and_o author_n be_v kindle_v ibidem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la in_o which_o description_n by_o he_o there_o prove_v out_o of_o scripture_n and_o confirm_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n augustine_n he_o have_v comprehend_v a_o twofold_a universality_n one_o loci_fw-la of_o place_n another_o temporis_fw-la of_o time_n as_o be_v more_o distinctlie_o there_o specify_v in_o the_o same_o chapter_n by_o himself_o and_o the_o benefit_n of_o this_o universality_n heâ—_n say_v be_v ut_fw-la t_o sciamus_fw-la discretè_fw-la quae_fw-la sit_fw-la vera_fw-la christi_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la veramque_fw-la habenâ—_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la fidei_fw-la that_o we_o may_v know_v distinctlie_o as_o a_o community_n so_o universal_a be_v find_v easy_o which_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n and_o have_v the_o true_a doctrine_n of_o faith_n heresy_n be_v limit_v as_o he_o show_v for_o time_n and_o place_n but_o the_o symbolical_a church_n be_v both_o way_n universal_a and_o to_o it_o when_o heresy_n arise_v 18._o arise_v ad_fw-la hanc_fw-la ecclesiamergo_fw-la quae_fw-la per_fw-la totum_fw-la mundum_fw-la unam_fw-la habet_fw-la doctrinam_fw-la apostolicam_fw-la omnes_fw-la fideles_fw-la intonante_fw-la nova_fw-la haeresi_fw-la debent_fw-la habere_fw-la recursum_fw-la ipsi_fw-la enim_fw-la apostoli_fw-la cum_fw-la una_fw-la sana_fw-la doctrina_fw-la adhuc_fw-la manente_fw-la imbuerunt_fw-la totam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la &_o ob_fw-la hoc_fw-la tota_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la etiam_fw-la apostolica_fw-la nominatur_fw-la walden_n c._n 18._o fideles_fw-la omnes_fw-la debeâ—_n habere_fw-la recursum_fw-la all_o faithful_a must_v have_v recourse_n as_o he_o say_v in_o the_o next_o chapter_n the_o reason_n be_v because_o she_o have_v q._n have_v c._n 18._o ut_fw-la suprà _fw-la ad_fw-la lit_fw-fr q._n in_o her_o heart_n the_o gospel_n write_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n together_o with_o a_o most_o certain_a interpretation_n of_o the_o christian_a law_n and_o also_o give_v 49._o give_v addit_fw-la adhuc_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la symbolica_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la quam_fw-la tenemâ—_n in_fw-la dubijs_fw-la credere_fw-la sub_fw-la poenae_fw-la perfidiae_fw-la addit_fw-la enim_fw-la ecclesiâ—_n sic_fw-la dictae_fw-la communiter_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la communi_fw-la rationi_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la 〈◊〉_d omnibus_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la abstracta_fw-la rationem_fw-la unius_fw-la fidelis_fw-la &_o induâ—bitantis_fw-la testimonij_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la ratione_fw-la qua_fw-la est_fw-la una_fw-la sic_fw-la enim_fw-la â—credimus_fw-la unam_fw-la sanctam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la non_fw-la quidem_fw-la gente_fw-la vel_fw-la patria_fw-la sed_fw-la professione_n unam_fw-la &_o fide_fw-la de_fw-la qua_fw-la fide_fw-la unicum_fw-la â—cunctis_fw-la gentibus_fw-la reddit_fw-la testimonium_fw-la cap._n 18._o no_o &_o hoc_fw-la est_fw-la credere_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la catholicam_fw-la credere_fw-la eam_fw-la habere_fw-la veram_fw-la â—fidem_fw-la de_fw-la deo_fw-la &_o vera_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la ibidem_fw-la ratione_fw-la ergo_fw-la qua_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la est_fw-la obiectum_fw-la fidei_fw-la christianae_n sic_fw-la facit_fw-la testimonium_fw-la abundanter_fw-la de_fw-la christo_fw-la cuilibet_fw-la eam_fw-la vel_fw-la secundum_fw-la eam_fw-la credenti_fw-la ibidem_fw-la definita_fw-la veritas_fw-la antequam_fw-la habeatur_fw-la pro_fw-la definita_fw-la plus_fw-la exigit_fw-la sc_fw-la ultra_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la scripturae_fw-la &_o spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la revelationem_fw-la fidem_fw-la in_o dictis_fw-la assumentis_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la extorqueat_fw-la &_o industriam_fw-la quod_fw-la per_fw-la elusionem_fw-la non_fw-la seducatur_fw-la aut_fw-la non_fw-la fingat_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la ipsum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la sponsus_fw-la ille_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la sponsae_fw-la reliquit_fw-la in_o dotem_fw-la
it_o in_o your_o heart_n not_o to_o meditate_v before_o what_o you_o shall_v answer_v for_o i_o will_v give_v you_o a_o mouth_n and_o wisdom_n which_o â—ll_v your_o adversary_n shall_v not_o be_v able_a to_o gainsay_v nor_o resist_v luc._n 21._o it_o shall_v â—e_v give_v to_o you_o in_o that_o same_o hour_n what_o â—ou_n shall_v speak_v for_o it_o it_o not_o you_o that_o â—peak_v 5._o cum_fw-la venerit_fw-la ille_fw-la spiritus_fw-la veritatis_fw-la docebit_fw-la vos_fw-la omnem_fw-la veritatem_fw-la non_fw-la enim_fw-la loquetur_fw-la a_o semetipso_fw-la sed_fw-la quaecunque_fw-la audiet_fw-la loquetur_fw-la etc._n etc._n de_fw-fr meo_fw-la accipiet_fw-la &_o annunciabit_fw-la vobis_fw-la joan._n 16._o mea_fw-la doctrina_fw-la â—onâ—st_fw-la mea_fw-la sed_fw-la eius_fw-la qui_fw-la misit_fw-la i_o joan._n 6_o tâ—es_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la testimonium_fw-la daunt_v in_fw-la caelum_fw-la etc._n etc._n &_o high_a tres_fw-la unum_fw-la sunt_fw-la 1._o joan._n 5._o but_o the_o spirit_n of_o your_o father_n that_o â—eaketh_v in_o you_o matt._n 10._o my_o word_n â—hat_n i_o have_v put_v in_o thy_o mouth_n shall_v not_o â—epart_v out_o of_o thy_o mouth_n and_o out_o of_o the_o â—outh_n of_o thy_o seed_n etc._n etc._n say_v our_o lord_n â—om_n hence_o forth_o and_o forever_o esaie_n â—9_n he_o that_o hear_v you_o hear_v i_o â—uke_n 10._o since_o you_o seek_v a_o proof_n of_o â—hrist_n speak_v in_o i_o 2._o cor._n 12._o the_o spirit_n of_o our_o lord_n have_v speak_v by_o i_o â—nd_v his_o word_n by_o my_o tongue_n 2._o king_n â—_o again_o the_o decree_n which_o we_o â—eak_v of_o have_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o â—olie_a ghost_n and_o the_o scripture_n â—ue_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o holy_a â—host_n now_o the_o holy_a ghost_n give_v testimony_n to_o both_o these_o iâ—_n not_o thereby_o in_o himself_o divide_v into_o two_o he_o be_v still_o the_o same_o testis_fw-la saint_n gregory_n our_o apostle_n reverence_v the_o four_o first_o general_a counsel_n 24._o li._n 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