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A93576	The hidden things of Esau brought to light, and reproved in an answer to a book intituled A true relation of a dispute between Francis Fulwood, minister of West Alvington, in the county of Devon, and Thomas Salthouse, as it is said, of the county of Westmerland, before the congregation of them called Quakers, in the house of Henry Pollexpher Esquire, in the said parish of West. Published in the truth's defence, and sent abroad in the world, to pursue the unknown authors imperfect relation. By a follower of the Lamb in the war against the Beast and false prophet, known to the world by the name of Thomas Salthouse.	Salthouse, Thomas, 1630-1691.	1657 (1657)	Wing S473; Thomason E912_4; ESTC R204852	26,539	40

and especially if any that witnesseth Davids conditions come in among them that cannot bow to their will-worship but stand a witness against them If they do not smite with the fist of wickedness they will be sure to smite with the tongue in scorn and derision with the name of Quaker or some other invented reproachful term as their forefathers who said they were of Abraham did with Christ and his Ministers that declared against their customs and traditions away with such a fellow say they It is not fit he should live upon the earth he brings in customs not lawful to be observed You that are guilty apply this to your selves and be you witnesses against your selves that you are the children of them that killed the Prophets crucified Christ and persecuted his Ministers though you may profess their words and cover your selves with their cloathing their life you are strangers unto and we are even become your enemies because we tell you the truth The last thing as it is also in the Relation was about the plain language of Scripture as thee or thou to a particular person Fulw. This is but the translation and it was indifferent for the Translators to have translated it you or thou the original will suffer either Ans Let that of God in thy conscience and all who know the original be witnesses against thee for a lier it had never been written nor translated to the natural mans understanding the original is pure even the Word of God which was in the beginning before transgression was and when the world was all of one Language before the dispersing of Babels builders And this word is the original and not the confounded Tongues and Languages of the Nations of this World that are under the vail yet untaken away and they that speak not according to this Word are such as rebel against the light and those who are in darkness call the Hebrew and Greek the Original and have erred from the right way not knowing the Scripture nor the power of God for the natural man by his faln wisdom perceives not the things of the Spirit of God and evil men and seducers are grown worse and worse Therefore it s more reason that those who are not come to a perfect understanding of the thing that was in the beginning should believe the Scripture as it is translated rather then such Dreamers and Diviners as set up their ancient Heathenish customs above the Scripture or the rule declared of in Scripture Did not God himself use the same expressions unto Adam and Adam unto him again Gen. 3. And also to Abraham and Abraham to him again Gen. 18. And likewise to Moses and Moses to him again Exod. 33. And also to Jeremiah a true Prophet and Jeremiah to him again Jere. 11. And to Jonah and Jonah to him again Jonah 4. And Christ Jesus the end of the Prophets to his Father used these expressions John 17. with a cloud of witnesses that might be instanced if it were required that this is the pure Language to one particular person Fulw. Pray let me take occasion to minde you when these expressions of thee and thou have their use in custom namely in two cases First In a way of great familiarness as to our very intimate or those much below us Secondly In way of great reverence and distance as to God and to a Prince but in neither of these senses do you use them Answ Can the Blackmoor change his skin or the Leopard his spots then may those who are accustomed to lye and to do evil be changed Although we do not use these words as a custom yet we use them with reverence and godly fear both unto God and to our Superiors Equals and Inferiors in love and familiarily and not with respect to the persons of Princes or any other that seeks honor from men And those that are our intimate friends in the truth are not offended at the expression but they that are at a distance and strangers to the Covenant of Promise and aliens to the Commonwealth of Israel cry out against us as being diverse in our Laws and Customs from all other people This is a custom not lawful to be observed say they Come let us expel them out of our coasts 1 Cor. 11.16 these contentious men we have no such custom these familiar expressions cannot be borne in our Country And therefore we deny to contend for such indifferent things as these people make conscience of who place Religion in words and even thus the brutish Pastor slights not onely the words of truth and soberness but also the weightier matters of the Law which God hath required Judgment Mercy and Humility and by their lyes and lightness have they caused many to forsake the right way and to follow their devised fables traditions and heathenish customs instead of true and sound Doctrine To the substance of what passed that day in the Dispute thus much in answer in brief for the Reasons above mentioned And where as the Relation saith one went one way and an other another way as if nothing had been spoken but in the Dispute It may be taken notice of that after Francis Fulwood and his company was gone our meeting continued a pretty season and a door of utterance was given me afterwards to speak to the people for their further satisfaction in things that lay dark as a difference between us in the dispute and something for their further information and edification and so our meeting was for the better and not for the worse and according to order the Assembly was dismist at that time Come down and sit in the dust ye Marchants of Babylon Isai 3.3 and all ye cunning Artificers and eloquent Orators that long have traded with the Saints words sit silent and get you into darkness for no more is your persons to be had in admiration because of advantage Gird your selves with Sackcloth ye Ministers of the Letter and hired Parish Teachers that have long used your tongues and said Ezek 34. Thus faith the Lord when the Lord never spoke unto you Yet have sed your selves with the fat and cloathed your selves with the wooll you have drunk of the deep wate●s and have fouled the residue with your seet and the poor of the flock have eaten that which ye have troden down and drunk that which ye have fouled with your feet Be ye ashamed O ye Husbandmen for the Seed is even rotten under the clods weep and howl ye pretended Vine-dressers for the Vineyard is over-grown with thorns bryers and fruitless Trees the day of your visitation is come the trumpet is sounded in Zion and an alarum is heard in the holy Mountain of the Lord. Let all the children of the West tremble be afraid ye sinners in Zion and let fearfulness take hold of all deceitful hypocrites the Lords controversie is against the false Prophet and Idol-shepherd the sword shall be upon his arm

hide and uphold Book There were some things very remarkable and the cunning craftiness of the Quaker was such That do what Mr. Fulwood could to force him to it he still found some trick or other to evade the maintaining those passages of dangerous consequence which he let fall in his first discourse which were not a few and which he took notice Mr. Fulwood wrote down Answ O ye deceitful Craftsmen and false Accusers what were these passages of dangerous consequence was it declaring against sin and exhorting to purity and holiness to minde the light and take up the Cross and follow Christ in the straight way or was it the laying open the deceit of the false Prophets hirelings and such as say they are Ministers of Christ and are not such as are called of Men Master take the cheif Seats in the Assemblies uppermost rooms at Feasts and whose hearts are exercised with covetous practises and have forsaken the right way and are gone in the way of Cain and run greedily after the error of Balaam for gifts and rewards If he that you call Mr. Fulwood wrote down any thing of dangerous consequence it had been his duty or yours in this Relation to have published them that so they might have been avoided and the Author ashamed for you say this was published out of a sincere desire that truth might be cleared and error ashamed And here you have added another lye to say That I took notice that Mr. Fulwood wrote down those passages of dangerous consequence for I did not see him nor any other write any thing that day of that discourse which I was moved of the Lord to speak not fearing all that came to oppose themselves Although I were sensible there were many that day come together to lie in wait to catch me in my words and if I had seen any write down what I said that day I had no cause to be afraid nor ashamed knowing that I have a witness in all your consciences that heard me even the Authors of his Book though they manifested themselves to be my subtil Adversaries their cunning will deceive them in the end as their deceit comes to be laid open by the light which makes manifest every mans work of what sort it is Book 2. He took all occasions to bring the dispute to such points as lay in difference between us and the Anabaptists that thus he might engage the Anabaptists with himself which indeed he effected the greatest advantage he got that day Answ Have you no other resuge but lies to shelter under what occasion took I to engage the Anabaptists both they and most of the company then present saw the deceit of Francis Fulwood that day and many of them declared against it I utterly deny that I endeavored to engage any further then the truth convinced them neither did I fear any that did engage against me And if the Lord raised up a witness in those you call Anabaptists or any others to contend for the truth against your deceit let him have the glory I admire no mans person because of advantage and if Francis Fulwood lost the advantage that day with your assistance or likely with the help of his Brethren of the Craft he may think to regain what he then lost by enlarging upon his confused Answers and Arguments and diminishing and wresting my Answers Replies and Arguments that day made in the truths defence but neither yours nor the as formed weapons shall prosper your refuge of lies the Lord will sweep away Book 3. That upon every stand or difficulty he continually fled unto the common Refuge of Hireling taking Tithes c. Answ It s a better refuge then lies to flie unto did not the true Prophets Ministers and Messengers of Christ declare against hirelings such as divined for money bare rule by their means sought for their gain from their quarter and against covetous proud heady high-minded men Is Francis Fulwood guilty of any of these If so let him repent in time and turn you from him if not neither he nor you need be offended at me nor account it too grateful a discourse to any Book 4. Although he first urged to have the express words of Scripture to be the rule of the dispute c. Answ You still flie to your old refuge which cannot long stand to wit lies look back to the third remarkable thing as you call it and compare it with this and your contradictions and confusions will appear remarkable indeed Did not you there say that in every stand I fled to the common refuge of Tithes Hirelings Diviners for money c. which are express words of Scripture and are you now so impudent as to say that I did not so much as once keep so exactly to the express words of Scripture Here you have given an opportunity sufficiently to discover and lay open your folly Book 5. Yet his cunning deceived him in that as is most remarkable The very Texts which he urged as before noted afforded so direct and plain Answers upon every occasion that he had no room left for any colourable Reply Answ What can you not open your mouths without lying I need give no other answer to this but appeal to all those that heard the dispute whose judgments are not captivated with prejudice Where are those plain Answers how is it you had not set down some of them in that which you call a true Relation A Reply that had not given satisfaction might stand for a colour but as troups of Robbers that lay in wait to murder by consent you bend your tongues for lies and shoot out your arrows even bitter words Book 6. Lastly And which did justly amaze us how boldly and with what inforcing Repetitions did Mr. Fulwood challenge him to set down his opinions and engage that thereupon he would at the next meeting bring Papists Books c. Answ All opinions and sects I deny neither can I remember at present that I heard him speak of writing down any but my principles what I owned and disowned I freely declared that day which neither be nor you hath or can disprove that dispute being the Fourteenth day of the Moneth called October 1656. I had three meetings the same Moneth one at the house of Henry Pollexphen aforesaid on the Six and twentieth day another the Seven and twentieth at Batson and another the Eight and twentieth at Kingsbridge of which its likely Francis Fulwood had notice For Nicholas Tripe in whose house the Meeting then was informed me that he sent a Messenger to him with a Message to this purpose That if he were dissatisfied in any thing in the forementioned discourse he might have free liberty to come into his house and be answered to what he had to object which was done at my request Let his practise and mine be judged by the Light which is nearer to Popery and who it was that fainted Book The Lord awaken us betime

least we say peace peace when sudden destruction cometh Answ Let him that nameth the name of the Lord depart from iniquity for none calls Jesus Lord but by the Holy Ghost What have you to do to take his name into your mouths and thus bend your tongues for lies and hate to be reformed upon you that are asleep will the day of the Lord come as a theif in the night even as sudden destruction from the Almighty Therefore arise and be awakened and prepare to meet the Lord by repentance that if peradventure the thoughts of your hearts may be forgiven you For the Lord hath appointed a day in the which he will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ and with equity will he plead the cause of the innocent against whom you make war and shoot your arrows in secret fear and tremble weep and howl for the misery that is coming upon you in flames of fire will God render vengeance upon his adversaries out of Heaven will he thunder upon them and they shall be even broken to peeces as the Vessel of a Potter is broken with a rod of Iron In vain do ye pot-sheards of the Earth strive to set Bryers and Thorns in battle your formed weapons cannot prosper a consumption is even determined upon the whole Earth and every mans work is to be tried by fire that the approved of God may be made manifest Can ye contend with the Almighty before whom all Nations are as the drop of a Bucket or as the small dust of the ballance Give over stop your mouths let all flesh be silent before the Lord. Come down and sit in the dust you that are high and lifted up and meet the Judge by the way Kiss the Son least he be angry and lay down your Crown at the feet of the Lamb and let the Lord be your fear and let him be your dreads and let the light of Christ in your consciences try your words and works and cease from your blinde Leaders that have used their tongues and not profited the people And while you have the light believe in the light and know while the Spirit of the Lord strives with you resist not his power lest your Bonds be made strong and you for ever shut up in utter darkness A price is put into your hands the Lord will not the death of a sinner the times of ignorance God winked at but now he calls all men every where to repent Call not this the railing discourse but take it as a Call to you and a warning from the Lord by a servant of the Truth made willing by the power of God to follow the Lamb wheresoever he goeth Thomas Salthouse Francis Fulwood TO the substance of what passed between thee and me in the discourse upon the Four and twentieth day of the Eight Moneth 1656. in the house of Henry Pollexphen which its like thou wast not unacquainted with the Printing of if no the cheifest actor I shall return something in Answer for the Truth 's vindication especially to the particulars of most concernment which I call to minde since I saw this Relation As first After I had spoken to the people that day as I was moved and directed by the Spirit of Truth then a Friend of mine being moved also stood up according to the order in the Churches of the Saints and spoke to the people then present to whom I gave liberty the spirits of the Prophets being made subject to the Prophets And as thou mayest remember thy first Objection was against her for saying Eternal life was not to be found in the Scriptures The second thing was a Quere by me propounded to thee which I yet received no satisfactory Answer unto from thee The third thing was an Objection made by thee against me for expressing as I was declaring to the people That those who are out of the Doctrine of Christ as they were then described by their fruirs and marks were such as Preach another Gospel then that which the Apostle had preached and so under the curse as it is written Gal 1. The fourth thing was about the light spoken of in Johns Declaration and something concerning Tithes Fifthly Concerning Baptism and the words thee and thou which many are offended at as they are and were given and taken by the servants of God one to another as we read in the Scriptures of Truth To these things in order as God doth direct I shall for the truths sake answer and as for the other passages in the Relation not worth the taking notice of or repeating over again I shall let them stand and wither as an untimely birth begotten by one of the adulterate generation and brought forth of the womb of consusion I might have written down a gross sum of lies but it feems the Authors were pricked at the heart when they saw what they had done and so to hide themselves have concealed their names from the visible eye of man But this Cave of earthly subtilty will not long hide them from the All-seeing eye of him with whom we have to do If thou be one of their confederacy fear and tremble before the Lord and come forth to the Light that thou mayst be proved and tried and be not thou called of men Master but learn of Jesus Christ to be meek and lowly take up his Cross and follow him and side not longer with the Chief Priests against him and his Ministers whom he hath sent forth as sheep among wolves to reprove sin in the Gates and to preach Repentance that people may be turned from the darkness to the light and from under Satans power unto God who hath appointed a day in the which he will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my Gospel To the first of these particulars I shall proceed Thy first Objection which the Book also mentions against the Woman is as follows Fulwood I Have one word first unto this woman that spake last and that is to charge her with speaking expresly against the Scripture She told us that Eternal life was not to be found in the Scriptures whereas the Apostle saith expresly that the holy Scriptures are able to make wise unto salvation Answ The Scripture is plain for what she intended John 5. Search the Scriptures for in them ye think to have eternal life and they are they that testifie of me saith Christ But ye will not come unto me that you may have life And again he saith I am the Way the Truth and the Life and he that hath the Son hath life and he that hath not the Son hath not life although he may have the Scriptures 2 Cor. 4.10 For the Minister of Christ waited for and witnessed the life of Christ manifested in his mortal Body and travailed again in birth with others till Christ the Life was formed in them I in them and they in me saith Christ John 17. And Christ in you the Hope

of glory the Mystery that hath been hid from ages and generations and this is Life eternal saith Christ to his Father that they may know thee the onely true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent For that which may be known of God is manifest in them and this is plain That eternal life is not to be found in the Scriptures although it is acknowledged they testifie of these things Here is no mention made That eternal life is to be found in the Scriptures and thus thy Objection is answered Fulw. True but this Son in whom eternal life is is alone to be found in Scriptures as the next words affirm They are they which testifie of me therefore eternal life is to be found in the Scriptures And thus your own Text overthrows you Ans Be not hasty but look back to thy confused stuff wherin doth the Text overthrow me for what the Scripture saith own but neither by this Text nor any other Canst thou ever prove that eternal life is to be found in the Scriptures or the Son whom to know is eternal life therefore let thy mouth be stopped and proceed no farther to pervert the right ways of God nor to wrest the Scriptures to thy own destruction for they are of no private interpretation although many who have them think to finde eternal life in them both thou and they are deceived that seek the living among the dead for the letter killeth 2 Cor. 3.6 but the spirit alone giveth life He that hath understanding let him read The Scripture being thus plain against thy Objection thy next shift was this The Apostle saith expresly That the Scriptures are able to make wise unto salvation But this was not to the thing in hand for the Scriptures I own and witness to be profitable for Doctrine and Reproof and to furnish the Man of God perfectly and through Faith which is alone in Jesus Christ are they able to make wise unto salvation and without Faith its impossible to please God And the company seeing the Objection answered said Leave this here is an end of it And my Quere to thee was as follows Whether is it lawful for a Minister of Christ to take Tithe● hire gifts or rewards for preaching the Gospel in these days since the Law and the Priesthood was changed yea or nay Fulw. You think you have put a Question that will gravel me have but a little patience and this will have its place I demand of you Whether the Scripture in the express Letter of it shall be our rule or whether we may draw consequences from it Answ I deny thy consequences and meanings and private interpretations answer thou my Quere by plain Scripture Fulw. He may be a lawful Minister that takes hire prove the contrary if you can Answ This is no answer to my Quere yet I shall prove the contrary by Scriptures The Prophets prophesie falsly and the Priests te●ch for hire and by their means they bear rule and my people love to have it so saith the Lord. This was a wonderful horrible thing that was then committed in the Land and not lawful And for this cause saith the Lord shall Zion be ploughed as a field and Jerusalem shall become heaps and the mountain of the house as the high places of the forest They run but I never sent them saith the Lord therefore they shall not profit this people at all night shall be unto them that they shall not have a vision and the day shall be dark over them Micah 3. then shall the Seers be ashamed and the Diviners confounded they shall all cover their lips for there is no answer of God they have fed themselves with the fat and cloathed themselves with the wool and my people are destroyed for want of knowledge as troups of robbers wait for a man even so the company of Priests murder in the way by consent Put into their mouths and they cry peace peace Put not into their mouths and they bite with their teeth and even prepare war against them This is not the lawful Ministry for the wo is gone forth against the men that do this both the Master and the Schollar and he that helpeth and he that is holpen shall fall together Therefore all people every where come out from among them and be ye separated hold them not up nor be partakers with them in their sins that so you may escape the misery that is coming upon those blind guides that have forsaken the way of the true Prophets Christ and his Ministers who called all men to come freely without money and without price and abode in the truth and gave freely as they had freely received a necessity being laid upon them to preach the Gospel freely and to make it without charge Is this thy practise 1 Cor. 9. or dost not thou preach for hire Fulw. If I do I have Scripture for it and you cannot say I preach for hire unless you could see my heart and besides my preaching twice every Lords day which is all I am bound by man unto I Catechise I Expound upon some part of Scriture I desire particular Conference in order to the Sacrament I visit the sick I preach my turn at some Lectures and this day I am here doing more then I am bound to do or can expect any reward from man for ye all know I might have been quiet in my Study at home but for love to the Souls of my poor people that if possibly I might save them out of the hands of such Deceivers and Seducers Answ Here thou art upon thy Self-justification yet art thou not clear from being an hiteling for thou hast acknowledged thy self to be bound by man and also thou acknowledgest thou hadst a competent maintenance in lieu of Preaching What command or example hast thou for these things and what Scripture hast thou for the Word Sacrament or Catechising or to premeditate aforehand and when had any of the Ministers of Christ Studies as thou saist thou mightiest have been quiet in thy Study at home Thou art out of the steps of the true Ministers of Christ expounding and giving meanings to the Scriptures adding and diminishing interpreting and wresting the Scriptures And therefore thy Gospel is easily proved to be another then theirs was and if thou call us Deceivers or Seducers prove it by Scripture That we are such as draw from the anointing within unto outward observations for such are Seducers and he is a Deceiver that transgresseth and abideth not in the Doctrine of Christ and steals the Word from his neighbor that useth his tongue and saith Thus saith the Lord when the Lord never sent him among whom thou art found although thou lean upon the Lord and with the Pharisee justifie thy self for Preaching many Lectures and visiting the sick thy long Prayers and thy Lecture Preaching is but the divination of thy own brain and thy Service and Sacrifices is no more

and the glory of the Lord is risen and arising and shall cover the face of the earth as the waters cover the Sea And now the sinners in Zion begin to tremble and fearfulness surprises the Hypocrites the voice of Babylons merchants is heard with a loud cry Rev. 18. Alas alas for none will buy our merchandise any longer Come say they let us smite with the tongue the hope of our gain is gone you know that by this craft we have got our wealth and if these mens doctrine be received not onely our craft is endangered but our Church and Ordinances which all the world worships in will be denied and our Tithes Augmentations Gifts and Rewards for Preaching will be taken away Report and we will report it let us call them Deceivers and Seducers for none dare contradict us When we are in the Pulpits the Law of the Land is our protection and by it we have liberty to imprison them if they disturb or interrupt us And thus you Parish-Teachers shelter your selves for a season but your covering is too narrow and your bed will be found shorter then a man can stretch himself upon it Your wickedness is manifest and reproved by the light and by a foolish people are you provoked to jealousie whom God hath chosen to confound the wisdom of the wise glory to his Name for ever who hath put an end to the first Covenant that made not the comers thereunto perfect as pertaining to the conscience and hath disannulled the Commandment going before by reason of the weakness and unprofitableness of it This is our God we have waited for him he alone is our Judge King and Law-giver to whom our soul is subject for he ever liveth and hath an unchangable Priesthood even him who is able to save to the uttermost all that come to God by him Which we now witness and deny and declare against the changable Priesthood that took Tithes and denied Christ to be come in the flesh Fulw. Tithes are lawful because not forbidden yea they seem to be encouraged by Christ himself ye Tithe Mint c. And ye do well therefore we do not ill to take them Answ Read thy portion among them to whom Christ spoke and if thou do well mayst thou not be accepted Wo unto you Scribes Pharisees Hypocrites for ye pay Tithe of Mint Mat. 23. Annise and Cummin and have omitted the weightier matters of the Law Judgment Mercy and Faith These you ought to have done and not to leave the other undone But he did not say You did well in so doing but called them fools and bl●nde And so may I truly call him who saith this is an encouragement to takes Tithes If thou or any of thy Brethren take them on this account for shame never profess your selves to be Ministers of the Gospel for Christ gave no command or encouragement to the Twelve Seventy or to any of his Disciples to take Tithes And besides those to whom Christ then spake did not believe in him nor confess him to be the end of the first Covenant in which Tithes was commanded and due to be paid to the Levitical Priesthood which were many Priests because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death But this man hath an unchangable Priesthood for he ever liveth to make intercession for his and is able to save to the uttermost all them that come to the Father by him who is made a Priest for ever not by the Law of a carnal command but by the power of an endless life and of the things which are spoken Heb. 8.1 both concerning Melchisedec and the Levitical Priesthood in that Declaration to the Hebrews This is the sum and substance Jesus Christ who is set on the right hand of the Throne of the Majestie in the Heavens a Minister of the Sanctuary and of the true Tabernacle which God hath pitched and not man For finding fault with the first Covenant Behold the days come saith the Lord that I will make with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new Covenant not according to the old which Covenant they brake Even this is the Covenant that I will make with the house of Israel After those days saith the Lord I will put my Law in their mindes and write them in their hearts I will be unto them a God and they shall be my people And thus the Law and Priesthood being changed as is clear by Scripture neither thou nor thy Brethren have any right to take Tithes either by the Law of God or example of Christs Ministers nor no encouragement from his words nor from that of Abraham who freely gave Tithes to Melchisedec out of the spoils who blessed him when he returned from the Conquest but ye receive the tenth not of the spoils onely but out of poor mens labors and of them who receive no blessing from you and for whom you do no work In the time of the Law there were indeed many Priests and the Priests lips were to preserve the knowledge of the people and then they ought to have brought their Tithes into the storehouse And these Priests had a necessity daily to offer Sacrifice first for their own sin and then for the peoples But Christ being come the Everlasting High Priest of good things to come by a greater and a more perfect Tabernacle not made with hands as the figures and shadows of these good things was He hath obtained a more excellent Ministry in as much as he is the Mediator of a better Covenant established upon better promises And so the Priesthood being changed Heb. 7.12 there is made of necessity a change of the Law Fulw. I have two things to defend our taking of Tithes against his Verse one of which I am sure will hold The first is That we claim not Tithes by the Law of God as it were commanded there but by the Law of the Land whereby we have as clear a title to our Tithes as that Gentleman hath to his Estate The second thing that I have to say is That you cannot prove by this Text that the onely Law for Tithes in the Word of God is abolished Answ Even upon this ground hath thy generation whose hearts are exercised with coveteous practises in all ages caused the Saints and Servants of God of whom the world was not worthy to suffer Some the spoiling of their goods Heb. 11. and others the trials of cruel mockings yea moreover Bonds and Imprisonments for bearing witness against their deceit Here thou hast manifested thy self sufficiently to be out of Christs doctrine and command as before in this Relation is expressed to wit bound by man to Preach every Lords day and by the Law of man thou receivest thy reward And so if thou hast a minde to sue any of those that believe in Christ at the Law and take away their Coat thou maist have their Cloak also for they cannot resist thee