secondary_a church_n which_o receive_v authority_n from_o the_o prime_a church_n &_o that_o under_o the_o like_a condition_n to_o wit_n that_o no_o rectour_n or_o president_n be_v make_v without_o election_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v combine_v in_o that_o assembly_n this_o he_o declare_v at_o large_a and_o refute_v the_o contrary_a argument_n now_o this_o election_n of_o a_o president_n be_v a_o act_n of_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n a_o part_n of_o the_o church_n power_n and_o see_v this_o be_v confess_v to_o be_v in_o synod_n it_o appear_v hence_o also_o that_o synod_n be_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n &_o admonition_n but_o also_o for_o the_o exercise_n of_o jurisdiction_n a_o sixth_o controversy_n about_o synod_n concern_v the_o execution_n of_o the_o synodall_n canon_n 30._o canon_n ibid._n l._n 3_o c._n 30._o mr_n park_n hold_v that_o this_o belong_v not_o unto_o any_o one_o bishop_n or_o archbishop_n but_o unto_o particular_a church_n and_o their_o eldership_n he_o 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witness_n here_o allege_v by_o he_o that_o if_o any_o church_n shall_v desire_v or_o choose_v or_o consent_v upon_o by_o the_o most_o part_n some_o that_o be_v unmeet_a either_o for_o doctrine_n or_o manner_n than_o the_o minister_n and_o elder_n of_o other_o church_n round_o about_o shall_v advertise_v first_o and_o afterward_o as_o occasion_n shall_v serve_v sharp_o &_o severe_o charge_v that_o they_o forbear_v such_o election_n or_o if_o it_o be_v make_v that_o they_o confirm_v it_o not_o by_o suffer_v he_o to_o exercise_v any_o ministry_n ii_o a_o second_o extraordinary_a and_o gross_a error_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v in_o his_o logic_n while_o in_o the_o prosecution_n of_o his_o argument_n he_o not_o know_v which_o be_v the_o major_a or_o which_o be_v the_o minor_a proposition_n in_o his_o own_o syllogism_n that_o which_o shall_v be_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o his_o minor_a proposition_n that_o he_o apply_v for_o proof_n of_o the_o major_a that_o which_o
abuse_n about_o excommunication_n he_o say_v can_v the_o bishop_n alone_o excommunicate_a excommunication_n do_v not_o belong_v unto_o any_o one_o man_n whosoever_o he_o be_v but_o unto_o the_o church_n by_o these_o &_o the_o like_a speech_n of_o zuinglius_fw-la it_o appear_v that_o his_o testimony_n be_v not_o prejudicial_a unto_o our_o practice_n nor_o unto_o that_o authority_n of_o synod_n which_o we_o maintain_v see_v we_o grant_v that_o no_o one_o person_n alone_o can_v by_o right_a excommunicate_a any_o man_n by_o his_o own_o authority_n neither_o can_v any_o church_n or_o church_n excommunicate_v those_o that_o be_v not_o in_o communion_n with_o they_o the_o other_o place_n cite_v out_o of_o zuinglius_fw-la touch_v the_o call_n of_o minister_n be_v so_o far_o from_o prove_v any_o thing_n against_o we_o that_o be_v due_o consider_v it_o may_v fit_o serve_v to_o blame_v those_o popular_a course_n which_o mr_n can._n plead_v for_o and_o to_o justify_v our_o practice_n in_o not_o 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lawful_a minister_n because_o they_o have_v not_o a_o due_a call_n thus_o bishop_n they_o be_v not_o for_o they_o be_v not_o choose_v of_o any_o church_n by_o lawful_a and_o unanimous_a consent_n the_o authority_n of_o other_o bishop_n excel_v in_o faith_n and_o prudence_n also_o concur_v observe_v how_o that_o with_o the_o free_a consent_n of_o the_o people_n he_o join_v not_o only_o the_o counsel_n or_o advise_v as_o he_o have_v call_v it_o before_o but_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o officer_n of_o other_o congregation_n moreover_o that_o zuinglius_fw-la do_v not_o absolute_o deny_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n though_o he_o speak_v much_o against_o popish_a synod_n may_v appear_v if_o we_o consider_v the_o reason_n which_o he_o use_v against_o they_o viz._n because_o they_o be_v not_o assemble_v in_o the_o holy_a ghost_n because_o they_o do_v not_o judge_v of_o matter_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n but_o according_a to_o the_o ordinance_n and_o custom_n of_o man_n etc._n etc._n now_o this_o be_v not_o to_o dispute_v against_o the_o thing_n itself_o but_o against_o the_o abuse_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o have_v speak_v against_o such_o counsel_n of_o the_o pope_n cardinal_n and_o bishop_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o mr_n can_v have_v allege_v he_o 75._o he_o ch._n pl._n p._n 75._o before_o he_o add_v withal_o expl_n withal_o art_n 8._o expl_n i_o speak_v only_o of_o these_o that_o be_v such_o my_o writing_n shall_v not_o hurt_v other_o who_o set_v themselves_o under_o the_o scripture_n not_o above_o the_o scripture_n and_o that_o these_o condition_n for_o the_o want_n whereof_o he_o oppose_v those_o popish_a synod_n may_v yet_o be_v find_v in_o other_o synod_n which_o have_v make_v decree_n for_o the_o decide_n of_o controversy_n raise_v in_o the_o church_n he_o acknowledge_v in_o these_o word_n 116._o word_n paraene_n ad_fw-la commun_n helvet_n civ_o tom._n 1._o f._n 116._o if_o the_o council_n of_o gangra_n be_v assemble_v in_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o no_o good_a man_n will_v deny_v while_o he_o see_v that_o the_o decree_n thereof_o do_v agree_v with_o the_o law_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o with_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n it_o be_v unworthy_o do_v of_o those_o that_o come_v after_o that_o have_v disannul_v the_o decree_n thereof_o without_o be_v move_v by_o any_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n again_o in_o another_o place_n speak_v of_o the_o four_o general_n counsel_n though_o he_o just_o blame_v those_o that_o account_v they_o to_o be_v of_o equal_a authority_n with_o the_o four_o evangelist_n yet_o he_o say_v 137._o say_v archeteles_n t._n 1._o f._n 137._o true_o i_o will_v not_o have_v any_o thing_n to_o be_v detract_v from_o they_o he_o be_v not_o therefore_o of_o mr_n cannes_n mind_n who_o will_v have_v all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n to_o be_v detract_v or_o remove_v from_o synod_n beside_o zuinglius_fw-la do_v not_o only_o approve_v of_o these_o synod_n hold_v in_o former_a time_n but_o he_o also_o show_v himself_o ready_a to_o join_v in_o the_o like_a practice_n even_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o same_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n that_o be_v use_v in_o those_o synod_n for_o when_o the_o magistrate_n of_o zurich_n have_v assemble_v together_o all_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n both_o in_o their_o city_n and_o country_n and_o have_v procure_v the_o presence_n of_o divers_a other_o for_o the_o solemn_a vindicate_v of_o the_o doctrine_n teach_v in_o their_o church_n there_o faber_n vicar_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o constance_n have_v speak_v of_o a_o general_n council_n that_o it_o only_o have_v authority_n to_o determine_v these_o thing_n zuinglius_fw-la reply_n â—10_n reply_n act._n disp_n 1._o tom._n 2._o f._n â—10_n whereas_o in_o this_o our_o assembly_n there_o be_v so_o many_o right_a faithful_a man_n both_o of_o our_o own_o country_n and_o stranger_n and_o furthermore_o see_v here_o be_v so_o many_o godly_a &_o learned_a bishop_n present_a who_o doubtless_o have_v a_o desire_v not_o only_o to_o hear_v and_o understand_v but_o also_o to_o advance_v divine_a truth_n very_o i_o see_v nothing_o to_o hinder_v even_o in_o this_o place_n whereby_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v lawful_a for_o we_o according_a to_o the_o vicar_n meaning_n to_o dispute_v of_o these_o thing_n and_o to_o decree_v what_o truth_n teach_v but_o other_o nation_n he_o say_v will_v never_o consent_v unto_o these_o our_o decree_n etc._n etc._n by_o these_o and_o the_o like_a etc._n like_a ibid._n f._n 621._o etc._n etc._n passage_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o zuinglius_fw-la do_v allow_v the_o minister_n of_o several_a congregation_n assemble_v in_o a_o synod_n not_o only_o to_o consult_v and_o dispute_v but_o also_o to_o determine_v yea_o and_o to_o make_v decree_n for_o the_o remove_n of_o controversy_n &_o settle_v peace_n in_o the_o church_n while_o they_o do_v it_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v the_o same_o that_o we_o maintain_v the_o word_n of_o mr_n luther_n who_o he_o cite_v in_o the_o next_o place_n as_o they_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n allege_v against_o we_o see_v they_o touch_v not_o the_o question_n as_o i_o show_v before_o so_o be_v compare_v with_o other_o his_o writing_n they_o make_v it_o appear_v that_o these_o two_o proposition_n may_v well_o stand_v together_o viz._n that_o the_o church_n have_v power_n to_o judge_v to_o call_v to_o depose_v etc._n etc._n and_o yet_o that_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o confine_v within_o the_o bound_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n but_o that_o synod_n &_o counsel_n have_v authority_n to_o judge_v of_o church_n affair_n and_o to_o censure_v offender_n forasmuch_o as_o luther_n do_v as_o plain_o and_o as_o full_o avouch_v the_o one_o as_o the_o other_o in_o the_o year_n 1518_o have_v understand_v that_o they_o proceed_v against_o he_o in_o the_o pope_n court_n at_o rome_n and_o that_o a_o unjust_a sentence_n be_v likely_a to_o
some_o redress_n 7.4_o redress_n esth_n 7.4_o i_o crave_v leave_v therefore_o to_o suggest_v a_o few_o of_o the_o woeful_a fruit_n â€_o &_o sad_a consequent_n of_o prelatical_a proceed_n prelacy_n proceed_n sad_a consequent_n of_o prelacy_n for_o even_o hence_o it_o be_v come_v to_o pass_v that_o i._o some_o well_o affect_a parent_n have_v be_v discourage_v from_o train_v up_o their_o hopeful_a son_n in_o such_o learning_n as_o shall_v fit_v to_o the_o ministry_n ii_o some_o conscientious_a young_a man_n have_v attain_v to_o a_o good_a degree_n of_o learning_n have_v divert_v &_o apply_v their_o study_n otherways_o iii_o some_o in_o the_o ministry_n concern_v the_o faith_n have_v make_v shipwreck_n or_o schism_v dangerous_o entertain_v unsound_a &_o unwarrantable_a opinion_n &_o course_n turn_v to_o be_v anabaptist_n separatist_n semi-separatist_n etc._n etc._n and_o other_o become_v licentious_a or_o mere_o formal_a and_o careless_a in_o the_o execution_n of_o their_o call_n iv_o some_o of_o the_o 2.2_o the_o 2._o pet._n 2.2_o people_n have_v follow_v their_o pernicious_a &_o deceivable_a way_n of_o anabaptism_n separation_n independency_n popularity_n &_o profaneness_n by_o reason_n of_o who_o the_o way_n of_o truth_n be_v evil_a speak_v of_o 4.9_o of_o hos_fw-la 4.9_o like_a priest_n like_o people_n v._o but_o behold_v great_a scandal_n they_o these_o for_o hence_o 8.3_o hence_o ezek._n 8.3_o the_o image_n of_o jealousy_n which_o provoke_v to_o jealousy_n even_o 2.7_o even_o 2._o thes_n 2.7_o the_o mystery_n of_o iniquity_n have_v be_v more_o bold_a to_o lift_v up_o the_o head_n &_o 16._o &_o ezek._n 8.12_o 16._o chamber_n of_o imagery_n have_v be_v raise_v at_o the_o upper_a end_n of_o chancel_v &_o altar_n place_v thereon_o and_o worship_v direct_v towards_o the_o east_n vi_o hence_o ceremony_n hence_o in_o the_o year_n 16_o 17._o d._n morton_n b._n of_o chester_n frame_v the_o direction_n for_o the_o first_o liberty_n grant_v to_o sport_n on_o the_o lord_n day_n at_o the_o same_o time_n he_o so_o eager_o prosecute_v the_o nonconformist_n about_o ceremony_n a_o wide_a gap_n have_v be_v open_v to_o libertinism_n in_o the_o audacious_a profanation_n of_o the_o lord_n day_n gross_a contempt_n of_o the_o faithful_a ministry_n scorn_v at_o the_o performance_n of_o family_n duty_n bolster_n of_o ignorance_n the_o stepdame_n of_o devotion_n countenance_v of_o wake_n rushbearings_a mixt-dancing_n maypole_n beare-beating_n stageplay_n revel_v healthing_n &_o all_o manner_n of_o the_o like_a disorder_a course_n with_o a_o censure_v all_o strictness_n in_o religion_n &_o circumspect_a walk_n to_o be_v foolish_a preciseness_n &_o puritanisme_n vii_o hence_o have_v follow_v those_o irregular_a confusion_n in_o the_o popular_a and_o independent_a government_n of_o the_o brownistical_o affect_v break_v in_o piece_n again_o and_o again_o to_o their_o great_a reproach_n &_o yet_o discover_v thereby_o that_o their_o 5.38_o their_o act._n 5.38_o new_a way_n be_v not_o of_o god_n since_o it_o do_v daily_o come_v to_o nought_o by_o their_o own_o disunit_a and_o unchurch_v of_o themselves_o viij_o 5.15_o viij_o judg._n 5.15_o hence_o have_v rise_v those_o great_a thought_n of_o heart_n among_o brethren_n occasion_v bitter_a contention_n fruitless_a jangle_n censorious_a word_n tart_a &_o gall_a writing_n alienation_n of_o affection_n strangeness_n of_o countenance_n breach_n of_o christian_a fellowship_n interruption_n of_o prayer_n &_o neglect_v of_o necessary_a mutual_a office_n ix_o yea_o &_o hence_o doubtless_o have_v issue_v as_o from_o the_o proper_a original_n that_o unworthy_a remonstrance_n against_o presbytery_n represent_v to_o the_o house_n of_o peer_n from_o divers_a nobleman_n and_o gentleman_n of_o cheshire_n as_o appear_v by_o a_o print_a book_n under_o the_o name_n of_o sir_n thomas_n aston_n baronet_n 1641._o the_o grievous_a scandal_n &_o offence_n whereof_o may_n in_o some_o part_n be_v evince_v by_o these_o short_a animadversion_n follow_v remonstrance_n animadversion_n on_o the_o cheshire_n remonstrance_n i._o the_o title_n of_o it_o a_o remonstrance_n against_o presbytery_n animadvers_fw-la of_o the_o title_n the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v which_o be_v observe_v vorstius_n declaration_n against_o vorstius_n by_o the_o great_a &_o wise_a king_n james_n of_o famous_a memory_n touch_v the_o title_n of_o bertius_n his_o book_n de_fw-la apostasia_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la viz._n the_o title_n only_o be_v enough_o to_o make_v it_o worthy_a the_o fire_n because_o i._o the_o holy_a scripture_n approve_v of_o presbytery_n as_o a_o divine_a ordinance_n both_o for_o the_o 4.14_o the_o 1._o tim._n 4.14_o imposition_n of_o hand_n &_o also_o for_o 5.17_o for_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o the_o exercise_n of_o rule_n &_o government_n ii_o presbytery_n be_v establish_v in_o the_o neighbour_n reform_a church_n which_o be_v precious_a in_o the_o eye_n of_o the_o lord_n &_o of_o all_o well-affected_a to_o the_o reform_a religion_n in_o england_n iii_o prelatical_a man_n be_v not_o wont_a in_o their_o writing_n to_o contradict_v it_o simple_o how_o come_v it_o then_o to_o pass_v that_o some_o in_o cheshire_n 12.8_o cheshire_n numb_a 12.8_o be_v not_o afraid_a to_o speak_v against_o presbytery_n ii_o the_o pretend_a occasion_n of_o the_o remonstrance_n against_o presbytery_n allege_v by_o the_o contriver_n &_o subscriber_n be_v a_o petition_n &_o position_n preach_v at_o chester_n &_o knutesford_n annex_v to_o the_o remonstrance_n animadv_n the_o occasion_n of_o the_o suggest_a pretence_n be_v but_o a_o mere_a pretence_n have_v no_o just_a ground_n at_o all_o for_o i._n neither_o the_o petition_n nor_o position_n annex_v to_o the_o remonstrance_n do_v seek_v for_o government_n for_o presbyterian_a discipline_n mention_v in_o the_o position_n in_o great_a character_n seem_v to_o be_v the_o word_n of_o remonst_z not_o of_o the_o preacher_n disaffect_v to_o presbyterian_a government_n presbytery_n but_o seem_v rather_o to_o affect_v a_o popular_a government_n ii_o the_o patron_n of_o popular_a government_n contend_v for_o in_o the_o position_n be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n either_o separatist_n or_o semi-separatist_n who_o be_v as_o opposite_a to_o presbyterial_a government_n as_o they_o be_v to_o prelacy_n as_o be_v well_o know_v to_o they_o that_o know_v they_o and_o therefore_o it_o behoove_v cheshire_n man_n to_o 7.24_o to_o john_n 7.24_o give_v righteous_a judgement_n when_o they_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o censure_v &_o in-no-wise_a confound_v &_o jumble_v together_o opinion_n &_o defender_n of_o they_o so_o direct_o opposite_a for_o 5.10_o for_o 2._o cor._n 5.10_o we_o must_v all_o appear_v at_o the_o tribunal_n of_o the_o 18.25_o the_o gen._n 18.25_o righteous_a judge_n of_o all_o the_o world_n who_o will_v do_v right_a iii_o remonstr_n take_v for_o grant_v that_o conclude_v that_o provincial_n &_o diocesan_n b_o b._n be_v to_o be_v understand_v by_o the_o remonstr_n otherwise_o nothing_o be_v conclude_v provincial_n &_o diocesan_n bishop_n be_v of_o apostolical_a institution_n 3.1_o institution_n philip._n 1.1_o 1._o tim._n 3.1_o allege_v in_o the_o margin_n two_o text_n of_o scripture_n for_o his_o proof_n animadv_n neither_o of_o the_o text_n allege_v do_v infer_v a_o apostolical_a institution_n of_o provincial_n &_o diocesan_n bishop_n for_o i._o the_o original_a word_n translate_v 〈◊〉_d translate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d bishop_n or_o overseer_n &_o 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d presbyter_n or_o elder_n be_v equivalent_a name_n of_o the_o same_o office_n &_o be_v so_o use_v in_o the_o 2._o the_o act._n 20.17_o 28._o 1._o pet._n 5.1_o 2._o scripture_n ii_o the_o pleader_n for_o hierarchy_n do_v grant_v that_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n in_o scripture_n phrase_n be_v the_o same_o iii_o the_o text_n in_o the_o epist_n to_o phil._n 1.1_o mention_v bishop_n in_o the_o plural_a number_n that_o be_v such_o officer_n as_o do_v oversee_v the_o church_n at_o philippi_n &_o not_o a_o bishop_n alone_o superior_a to_o other_o officer_n in_o degree_n or_o government_n according_a to_o the_o opinion_n of_o hierarchicall_a man_n 9_o man_n 3._o john_n 9_o affect_v preeminence_n iv_o the_o text_n in_o 1._o tim._n 3.1_o mention_v also_o office_n as_o well_o as_o bishop_n which_o office_n be_v describe_v in_o the_o 7._o the_o 1._o tim._n 3.2_o 3_o 4_o 5_o 6_o 7._o subsequent_a verse_n to_o be_v the_o office_n of_o the_o presbyter_n and_o this_o may_v appear_v further_o by_o compare_v therewith_o the_o 7._o the_o tit._n 1.5_o 6_o 7._o epist_n to_z titus_n v._o it_o be_v good_a to_o be_v wise_a according_a to_o sobriety_n in_o understand_v some_o thing_n in_o 3.16_o in_o 2._o pet._n 3.16_o paul_n epistle_n &_o other_o scripture_n lest_o for_o want_v of_o learning_n &_o stability_n they_o be_v wrest_v to_o destruction_n this_o be_v a_o useful_a item_n for_o cheshire_n man_n &_o other_o also_o iv_o remonstr_n commend_v bishop_n that_o they_o be_v the_o great_a light_n of_o the_o church_n and_o martyr_n in_o primitive_a time_n animadv_n
at_o home_n and_o in_o matter_n of_o judgement_n see_v justice_n be_v to_o be_v do_v to_o one_o person_n as_o well_o as_o to_o a_o multitude_n jer._n 21.12_o &_o 22.3_o esa_n 58.6_o amos_n 5.12.24_o therefore_o if_o one_o person_n think_v himself_o oppress_v by_o a_o particular_a church_n the_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n be_v not_o to_o be_v deny_v he_o iii_o whereas_o they_o say_v hence_o our_o divine_n teach_v etc._n etc._n who_o do_v they_o mean_v by_o this_o phrase_n our_o divine_n do_v w._n b._n mean_v the_o arminian_n divine_v unto_o who_o he_o have_v decline_v and_o be_v become_v one_o of_o their_o disciple_n do_v mr_n c._n mean_v the_o divine_n of_o the_o separation_n the_o communion_n of_o other_o divine_n be_v renounce_v by_o they_o and_o these_o also_o be_v such_o that_o if_o a_o whole_a church_n together_o shall_v agree_v to_o refer_v their_o controversy_n unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o a_o synod_n they_o hold_v it_o to_o be_v a_o antichristian_a bondage_n do_v they_o mean_v mr_n parker_n who_o they_o allege_v immediate_o before_o and_o unto_o who_o they_o seem_v to_o have_v reference_n by_o that_o ambiguous_a quotation_n so_o set_v down_o in_o the_o margin_n as_o if_o it_o belong_v unto_o that_o which_o go_v before_o yet_o he_o be_v but_o one_o and_o none_o of_o they_o mr_n parker_n say_v indeed_o 338._o indeed_o pol._n eccl._n p._n 338._o there_o that_o this_o delegation_n and_o power_n of_o delegate_a be_v not_o in_o one_o bishop_n but_o in_o the_o church_n themselves_o he_o speak_v of_o that_o communication_n of_o church_n when_o some_o deal_n with_o other_o concern_v any_o ecclesiastical_a business_n by_o send_v their_o delegate_n or_o messenger_n unto_o they_o which_o power_n of_o send_v delegate_n in_o ecclesiastical_a affair_n he_o prove_v to_o be_v in_o the_o church_n itself_o and_o not_o in_o any_o one_o bishop_n in_o opposition_n unto_o the_o hierarchy_n who_o will_v have_v such_o business_n to_o be_v do_v by_o themselves_o and_o in_o their_o own_o name_n that_o which_o mr_n parker_n say_v be_v no_o way_n contrary_a unto_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o class_n and_o synod_n where_o the_o deputy_n and_o delegate_n of_o the_o church_n appear_v in_o the_o name_n of_o those_o several_a church_n from_o which_o they_o be_v send_v acknowledge_v the_o power_n of_o their_o delegation_n to_o be_v derive_v unto_o they_o from_o the_o same_o mr_n c._n and_o w._n b._n confound_v these_o two_o thing_n which_o be_v to_o be_v distinguish_v viz._n the_o deal_n in_o church_n affair_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n which_o they_o only_o be_v allow_v to_o do_v who_o be_v choose_v of_o the_o church_n and_o design_v thereunto_o and_o the_o propound_v of_o personal_a grievance_n in_o case_n of_o appeal_n or_o complaint_n touch_v any_o thing_n that_o be_v amiss_o which_o as_o we_o say_v before_o be_v free_a unto_o every_o officer_n and_o member_n of_o the_o church_n when_o he_o can_v otherwise_o be_v satisfy_v he_o do_v it_o still_o in_o his_o own_o name_n now_o both_o these_o may_v be_v understand_v by_o that_o their_o phrase_n of_o bring_v thing_n from_o one_o congregation_n to_o another_o whereas_o mr_n parker_n mean_v only_o the_o former_a as_o be_v plain_a by_o his_o whole_a discourse_n in_o the_o place_n mention_v though_o mr_n c._n and_o w._n b._n will_v fain_o apply_v it_o unto_o the_o latter_a as_o appear_v by_o the_o inference_n which_o thence_o they_o make_v against_o i_o but_o for_o this_o their_o opinion_n they_o can_v show_v any_o one_o word_n of_o god_n nor_o any_o one_o divine_a whereas_o i_o have_v the_o 37.41_o the_o pag._n 37.41_o witness_n of_o both_o iv_o touch_v the_o accusation_n of_o i_o in_o particular_a that_o i_o have_v bring_v matter_n to_o the_o classis_fw-la without_o consent_n of_o the_o consistory_n or_o any_o one_o of_o they_o etc._n etc._n how_o earnest_n soever_o they_o be_v both_o in_o the_o line_n and_o in_o the_o margin_n to_o load_v i_o with_o double_a rebuke_n yet_o their_o own_o word_n fall_v upon_o they_o and_o while_o they_o seek_v to_o accuse_v they_o excuse_v i_o rather_o for_o if_o it_o be_v as_o they_o say_v than_o it_o appear_v that_o the_o matter_n i_o take_v in_o hand_n be_v such_o as_o may_v stand_v firm_a upon_o trial_n and_o examination_n by_o the_o deputy_n minister_n and_o elder_n of_o many_o church_n when_o as_o the_o contrary_a proceed_n be_v all_o undo_v and_o come_v to_o nothing_o and_o yet_o it_o be_v also_o false_a which_o they_o say_v of_o the_o church_n consent_n the_o matter_n be_v never_o propound_v unto_o the_o church_n nor_o their_o consent_n require_v or_o ask_v notwithstanding_o all_o that_o be_v do_v by_o some_o particular_a person_n the_o complaint_n and_o reproach_n with_o which_o they_o make_v up_o their_o 6_o exception_n be_v not_o worth_a the_o answer_n the_o testimony_n of_o the_o english_a church_n at_o franekford_n be_v afterward_o to_o be_v consider_v i._o can._n vii_o the_o thing_n then_o and_o there_o conclude_v be_v divine_a scripture_n impose_v upon_o all_o other_o church_n of_o the_o gentile_n although_o they_o have_v no_o delegate_n there_o v._o 22_o 28._o ch_z 16.4_o answ._n i._n the_o argument_n be_v not_o take_v from_o the_o infallibility_n of_o truth_n that_o be_v in_o the_o decree_n of_o this_o synod_n but_o from_o the_o order_n according_a to_o which_o they_o be_v make_v and_o the_o person_n determine_v the_o thing_n that_o be_v then_o and_o there_o conclude_v be_v such_o as_o do_v not_o all_o belong_v unto_o that_o particular_a congregation_n where_o the_o controversy_n be_v raise_v ii_o though_o the_o decree_n in_o that_o synod_n be_v ground_v upon_o the_o scripture_n as_o i_o grant_v 66._o grant_v pag._n 66._o before_o yet_o they_o can_v not_o be_v say_v to_o be_v divine_a scripture_n until_o they_o be_v by_o luke_n record_v among_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n neither_o be_v it_o manifest_v unto_o all_o that_o they_o be_v according_a to_o the_o scripture_n until_o it_o be_v conclude_v in_o the_o synod_n for_o else_o it_o have_v be_v in_o vain_a to_o have_v repair_v thither_o for_o this_o resolution_n iii_o he_o that_o will_v seem_v to_o say_v 69._o say_v pag._n 69._o before_o out_o of_o d._n whit._n that_o this_o assembly_n do_v bind_v only_o but_o in_o a_o special_a or_o particular_a meeting_n do_v now_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o thing_n then_o and_o there_o conclude_v do_v bind_v all_o other_o church_n of_o the_o gentile_n be_v impose_v upon_o they_o all_o to_o be_v observe_v by_o they_o it_o be_v true_a indeed_o that_o the_o decree_n of_o this_o synod_n be_v direct_v and_o deliver_v unto_o several_a church_n of_o the_o gentile_n where_o the_o observation_n of_o they_o be_v judge_v to_o be_v necessary_a not_o only_o because_o they_o be_v by_o infallible_a direction_n from_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o reason_n be_v employ_v by_o mr_n robinson_n from_o whence_o this_o and_o the_o substance_n of_o most_o of_o the_o former_a exception_n be_v borrow_v when_o he_o add_v 199._o add_v justif_n of_o sep._n p._n 199._o and_o so_o impose_v upon_o all_o other_o church_n etc._n etc._n but_o beside_o because_o the_o apostle_n be_v chief_a judge_n in_o this_o synod_n who_o as_o i_o have_v show_v often_o 72._o often_o pag._n 62_o 72._o before_o be_v as_o delegate_n from_o all_o the_o church_n in_o which_o respect_n as_o be_v also_o note_v 69._o note_v pag._n 69._o out_o of_o mr_n cartwright_n this_o synod_n may_v be_v account_v a_o general_n council_n i._o can._n viii_o it_o be_v observable_a how_o mr_n paget_n stumble_v at_o the_o same_o stone_n and_o misapply_v the_o very_a same_o place_n of_o scripture_n as_o the_o papist_n etc._n papist_n rhem._n on_o the_o place_n etc._n etc._n have_v do_v before_o for_o thus_o they_o write_v paul_n and_o barnabas_n condescend_v to_o refer_v the_o whole_a controversy_n &_o the_o determination_n thereof_o to_o the_o apostle_n and_o ancient_n at_o jerusalem_n that_o be_v to_o say_v to_o commit_v the_o matter_n to_o be_v try_v by_o the_o head_n and_o bishop_n and_o their_o determination_n in_o council_n and_o indeed_o such_o application_n of_o it_o better_o serve_v the_o turn_n of_o jesuit_n and_o priest_n that_o seek_v to_o set_v up_o the_o pope_n supremacy_n and_o a_o tyrannical_a hierarchy_n than_o those_o that_o desire_v to_o stand_v for_o the_o right_n and_o privilege_n which_o christ_n have_v give_v unto_o his_o church_n answ._n there_o be_v nothing_o say_v here_o but_o either_o it_o be_v refute_v by_o that_o which_o i_o have_v say_v already_o or_o else_o it_o be_v a_o mere_a beg_n of_o the_o question_n by_o avouch_v that_o which_o remain_v by_o he_o to_o be_v prove_v and_o which_o i_o be_o to_o disprove_v when_o i_o come_v to_o the_o examination_n of_o his_o argument_n though_o the_o papist_n abuse_n and_o
controversy_n that_o arise_v in_o the_o same_o and_o according_a to_o mr_n parker_n do_v exercise_v a_o lawful_a jurisdiction_n herein_o from_o this_o communication_n of_o church_n he_o come_v to_o speak_v 340._o speak_v ibid._n c._n 23._o p._n 345._o 340._o of_o their_o combination_n from_o whence_o arise_v a_o combine_a church_n derive_v from_o other_o church_n this_o combination_n he_o note_v to_o consist_v either_o of_o two_o or_o more_o church_n a_o instance_n of_o this_o combination_n of_o two_o he_o give_v in_o the_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n act._n 15._o and_o say_v it_o be_v a_o council_n and_o synod_n and_o that_o proper_o and_o that_o of_o two_o church_n to_o wit_n of_o antioch_n and_o jerusalem_n for_o the_o messenger_n send_v from_o antioch_n be_v present_a which_o represent_v the_o church_n of_o antioch_n as_o be_v usual_a in_o counsel_n and_o notwithstanding_o a_o objection_n make_v against_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n yet_o he_o say_v that_o church_n be_v also_o judge_v in_o that_o council_n because_o their_o messenger_n bring_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o same_o with_o they_o hereupon_o he_o reprove_v two_o spirit_n of_o error_n the_o one_o of_o grotius_n who_o 〈◊〉_d say_v to_o reject_v the_o use_n of_o synod_n altogether_o for_o who_o will_v write_v this_o say_v mr_n parâ—…_n 〈◊〉_d be_v that_o be_v bewitch_v with_o error_n see_v the_o church_n of_o god_n have_v always_o hold_v that_o sâ—…_n be_v here_o institute_v of_o god_n to_o endure_v for_o ever_o etc._n etc._n the_o second_o spirit_n of_o error_n will-he_n reprove_v be_v that_o of_o the_o hierarchy_n 347._o hierarchy_n p._n 347._o because_o they_o condemn_v the_o reform_a synod_n as_o if_o they_o be_v degenerate_a quae_fw-la tamen_fw-la ad_fw-la hunc_fw-la typum_fw-la accuratissime_fw-la efformantur_fw-la which_o be_v notwithstanding_o most_o exact_o frame_v according_a to_o this_o pattern_n hence_o it_o appear_v that_o mr_n parker_n hold_v the_o synod_n of_o divine_a institution_n to_o be_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n but_o for_o jurisdiction_n also_o for_o otherwise_o he_o can_v not_o have_v say_v with_o truth_n that_o the_o reform_a synod_n all_o which_o exercise_n jurisdiction_n do_v answer_v exact_o thereunto_o otherwise_o he_o may_v rather_o have_v say_v that_o the_o synod_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n swarve_v from_o the_o primitive_a pattern_n be_v indeed_o adulterare_fw-la and_o degenerate_a usurp_a authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n which_o do_v not_o belong_v unto_o they_o the_o combination_n of_o more_o church_n mr_n par._n describe_v in_o divers_a kind_n or_o degree_n also_o ibiden_v also_o ibiden_v and_o first_o that_o which_o be_v of_o many_o church_n into_o one_o eldership_n the_o reason_n of_o this_o be_v because_o some_o little_a church_n know_v their_o own_o weakness_n do_v join_v themselves_o unto_o the_o neighbour_n church_n and_o so_o make_v but_o one_o eldership_n only_o among_o themselves_o he_o give_v a_o instance_n of_o this_o in_o those_o small_a church_n about_o geneva_n which_o not_o be_v sufficient_a for_o themselves_o do_v join_v themselves_o unto_o the_o church_n in_o the_o next_o city_n so_o that_o they_o come_v together_o weekly_o into_o the_o neighbour-consistory_n of_o the_o city_n this_o combination_n of_o lesser_a church_n into_o one_o eldership_n or_o consistory_n mr_n parker_n approve_v and_o justifyes_n and_o declare_v his_o judgement_n touch_v this_o kind_n of_o consociation_n 1._o he_o say_v it_o be_v ground_v upon_o the_o communion_n of_o church_n and_o derive_v from_o the_o wisdom_n of_o the_o spirit_n and_o complain_v of_o the_o hierarchy_n that_o do_v so_o virulent_o impugn_v the_o same_o 2._o 348._o 2._o p._n 348._o whereas_o nothing_o be_v more_o object_v against_o the_o reformation_n in_o england_n then_o that_o many_o church_n or_o parish_n be_v unable_a for_o it_o want_v fit_a man_n to_o govern_v and_o to_o exercise_v discipline_n in_o eldership_n mr_n parker_n answer_v hereunto_o if_o it_o be_v so_o let_v they_o join_v themselves_o unto_o the_o next_o eldership_n or_o erect_v a_o common_a eldership_n among_o themselves_o and_o so_o from_o common_a counsel_n and_o help_n let_v they_o seek_v remedy_n for_o their_o weakness_n now_o it_o be_v record_v 167._o record_v calvin_n epist_n 167._o that_o in_o the_o discipline_n at_o geneva_n the_o right_a of_o excommunication_n be_v in_o the_o power_n of_o this_o consistory_n or_o common_a eldership_n and_o hereby_o then_o it_o appear_v that_o all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o limit_v unto_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o that_o mr_n parker_n allow_v of_o this_o government_n at_o geneva_n be_v not_o against_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o many_o church_n over_o one_o again_o whereas_o d._n bancroft_n and_o d._n field_n object_n that_o the_o church_n at_o geneva_n and_o the_o village_n of_o the_o netherlands_o have_v not_o the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n and_o whereas_o my_o opposite_n complain_v that_o church_n be_v bring_v into_o bondage_n and_o loose_v their_o liberty_n when_o they_o may_v not_o excommunicate_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o other_o mr_n parker_n answer_n be_v 349._o be_v p._n 349._o that_o the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n ordination_n and_o other_o jurisdiction_n remain_v pure_a in_o they_o save_v that_o communion_n which_o ought_v to_o be_v among_o church_n every_o church_n in_o great_a matter_n use_v the_o consent_n and_o counsel_n of_o her_o neighbour_n as_o of_o the_o classis_fw-la or_o eldership_n in_o the_o city_n quod_fw-la ego_fw-la ecclesiis_fw-la vel_fw-la perfectissimis_fw-la non_fw-la indigâ—um_fw-la reor_fw-la which_o i_o judge_v say_v he_o not_o to_o be_v unmeet_a even_o for_o the_o most_o perfect_a church_n thus_o he_o require_v not_o only_a counsel_n but_o consent_n of_o other_o church_n in_o weighty_a matter_n which_o be_v that_o we_o stand_v for_o this_o do_v not_o as_o he_o say_v 390._o say_v p._n 390._o import_v any_o hierarchicall_a subjection_n in_o the_o parish_n at_o geneva_n unless_o happy_o any_o can_v be_v subject_v unto_o himself_o for_o these_o parish_n each_o for_o their_o part_n and_o that_o equal_o be_v this_o very_a eldership_n what_o subjection_n be_v it_o where_o all_o as_o well_o city-churche_n as_o the_o country-churche_n be_v equal_a for_o the_o country-churche_n be_v no_o more_o subject_a unto_o this_o eldership_n then_o be_v the_o city-churche_n the_o next_o combination_n of_o many_o church_n which_o mr_n parker_n speak_v of_o etc._n of_o ibid._n c._n 24._o p._n 353._o etc._n etc._n be_v when_o they_o be_v unite_v into_o one_o classis_fw-la and_o of_o these_o he_o give_v instance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o the_o netherlands_o and_o in_o scotland_n where_o the_o 52_o presbytery_n so_o call_v by_o they_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o so_o many_o class_n for_o the_o warrant_n of_o these_o he_o bring_v both_o divers_a ground_n of_o holy_a scripture_n and_o the_o example_n of_o antiquity_n he_o there_o answer_v 10_o objection_n make_v by_o the_o hierarchy_n against_o these_o class_n and_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o he_o do_v not_o simple_o speak_v of_o class_n in_o general_a but_o of_o these_o class_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o these_o country_n of_o our_o class_n as_o he_o use_v to_o call_v they_o not_o only_o for_o that_o he_o approve_v they_o but_o because_o together_o with_o we_o he_o be_v a_o member_n of_o this_o communion_n and_o live_v under_o the_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la with_o we_o if_o he_o have_v not_o allow_v their_o jurisdiction_n which_o he_o know_v and_o see_v to_o be_v exercise_v by_o they_o how_o can_v he_o with_o good_a conscience_n have_v praise_v they_o as_o he_o do_v speak_v of_o the_o ancient_a discipline_n use_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n he_o say_v 357._o say_v p._n 357._o omnia_fw-la his_fw-la in_o politeia_fw-la nostra_fw-la &_o in_fw-la classibus_fw-la nostris_fw-la similia_fw-la o_o 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219._o the_o p._n 219._o preface_n to_o the_o forementioned_a confession_n of_o their_o faith_n that_o their_o father_n have_v appeal_v unto_o a_o synod_n etc._n etc._n where_o if_o any_o thing_n shall_v be_v find_v dissonant_n from_o the_o scripture_n they_o be_v willing_a from_o the_o heart_n and_o love_o to_o be_v subject_a and_o obedient_a to_o the_o censure_n and_o appointment_n of_o the_o synod_n in_o all_o thing_n this_o show_v their_o dissent_n from_o mr_n can_n and_o his_o people_n iii_o the_o combination_n of_o the_o christian_a and_o orthodox_n church_n in_o bohemia_n and_o moravia_n call_v by_o themselves_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o brethren_n in_o bohemia_n do_v give_v a_o clear_a testimony_n unto_o the_o truth_n touch_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n for_o the_o government_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o judgement_n of_o their_o cause_n by_o a_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o as_o appear_v in_o the_o book_n of_o their_o discipline_n where_o they_o 38._o they_o ratio_fw-la discip_n ordinisq_fw-la ecc._n in_o unitate_fw-la frat_fw-la bohem._n c._n 2._o p._n 33.34_o &_o 38._o profess_v that_o for_o weighty_a cause_n in_o provide_v for_o the_o necessity_n of_o the_o whole_a unity_n or_o some_o diocese_n therein_o they_o use_v to_o hold_v synod_n either_o general_n or_o particular_a etc._n etc._n they_o allege_v these_o 5_o end_n to_o confirm_v brotherly_a love_n and_o concord_n to_o strengthen_v they_o in_o the_o work_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o preserve_v the_o vigour_n of_o discipline_n to_o exclude_v scandalous_a person_n out_o of_o the_o number_n of_o their_o minister_n etc._n etc._n to_o ordain_v minister_n etc._n etc._n and_o for_o the_o 41._o the_o ib._n p._n 41._o examination_n of_o minister_n before_o they_o be_v confirm_v the_o exercise_n of_o this_o authority_n be_v also_o declare_v in_o their_o etc._n their_o ib._n cap._n 6._o p._n 87_o 88_o etc._n etc._n visitation_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v in_o their_o unity_n or_o consociation_n this_o example_n of_o these_o brethren_n of_o the_o unity_n be_v so_o much_o the_o more_o to_o be_v regard_v of_o we_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o singular_a providence_n &_o blessing_n of_o god_n in_o preserve_v they_o to_o this_o day_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o so_o many_o persecution_n as_o they_o have_v endure_v be_v more_o ancient_a than_o other_o reform_a church_n have_v continue_v from_o the_o day_n of_o john_n husse_n and_o be_v holpen_v by_o the_o waldenses_n that_o be_v scatter_v into_o those_o part_n so_o that_o they_o 3._o they_o ib._n pref_o p._n 2_o 3._o be_v increase_v to_o almost_o 200_o little_a congregation_n in_o bohemia_n &_o moravia_n about_o the_o year_n 1500_o before_o the_o time_n of_o luther_n their_o piety_n love_n concord_n and_o zeal_n of_o religion_n notwithstanding_o some_o imperfection_n appear_v by_o their_o order_n to_o be_v very_o great_a in_o special_a their_o care_n of_o sanctify_v the_o
the_o church_n or_o whether_o the_o officer_n be_v choose_v with_o the_o public_a knowledge_n and_o free_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n have_v not_o by_o virtue_n of_o their_o call_a power_n to_o hear_v &_o judge_v matter_n to_o rebuke_v and_o censure_v offender_n without_o the_o advice_n of_o the_o multitude_n yet_o so_o that_o in_o matter_n of_o great_a importance_n &_o more_o public_a concernment_n as_o admission_n excommunication_n &_o absolution_n of_o member_n election_n &_o deposition_n of_o officer_n etc._n etc._n the_o case_n be_v make_v know_v unto_o &_o determine_v with_o the_o free_a consent_n of_o the_o people_n according_a to_o the_o practice_n above-written_a the_o former_a of_o these_o be_v deny_v the_o latter_a affirm_v &_o maintain_v in_o the_o ensue_a discourse_n chap._n ii_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o power_n of_o the_o eldership_n injudging_a &_o end_v some_o cause_n without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o congregation_n 1._o the_o title_n give_v by_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o ecclesiastical_a office_n &_o officer_n be_v such_o as_o import_v a_o power_n of_o judge_a cause_n be_v such_o title_n as_o do_v express_a &_o declare_v the_o power_n of_o judgement_n which_o be_v in_o the_o ruler_n of_o israel_n both_o civil_a &_o ecclesiastical_a as_o for_o example_n 1._o a_o guide_n or_o leader_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v the_o title_n give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n heb._n 13.7_o 17_o 24._o &_o be_v the_o same_o that_o in_o the_o greek_a translation_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n agreeable_a to_o the_o original_a be_v give_v to_o civil_a ruler_n josh_n 13.21_o deut._n 1.13_o mica_n 3.9_o 11.2_o chro._n 5.1_o ezek._n 44.3_o &_o 45.7_o dan._n 3.2_o as_o also_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n act._n 7.10_o beside_o it_o be_v the_o same_o with_o another_o word_n so_o often_o give_v unto_o civil_a ruler_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mat._n 2.6_o &_o 27.2_o act._n 23.24_o 26_o 33._o 1._o pet._n 2.14_o etc._n etc._n and_o so_o be_v this_o word_n also_o use_v by_o other_o humane_a writer_n abundant_o 2._o a_o bishop_n or_o overseer_n the_o title_n give_v by_o the_o h._n ghost_n unto_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n to_o describe_v their_o authority_n &_o power_n act._n 20.28_o phil._n 1.1_o 1._o tim._n 3.2_o tit._n 1.7_o be_v the_o same_o word_n that_o be_v give_v to_o express_v the_o power_n of_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o the_o greek_a translation_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n num._n 31.14_o judg._n 9.28_o 2._o kin._n 11.15_o and_o very_o often_o in_o other_o writer_n 3._o a_o elder_a nafi_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nafi_n the_o title_n which_o the_o scripture_n use_v to_o denote_v &_o show_v the_o office_n of_o ecclesiastical_a elder_n act._n 14.23_o &_o 15.2_o 4._o &_o 20.17_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o tit._n 1.5_o 1._o pet._n 5.1_o be_v the_o same_o word_n which_o be_v likewise_o give_v to_o civil_a ruler_n &_o elder_n in_o the_o gate_n judg._n 8.14_o ruth_n 4.2_o 3._o etc._n etc._n 2._o sam._n 5.3_o 1._o chron._n 11.3_o 4._o a_o prince_n or_o ruler_n be_v the_o title_n of_o civil_a governor_n in_o the_o commonwealth_n to_o signify_v their_o authority_n num._n 7.2_o gen._n 25.16_o &_o 34.2_o levit._fw-la 4.22_o rom._n 13.3_o 1._o cor._n 2.6_o be_v also_o give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a ruler_n to_o note_v their_o office_n and_o authority_n as_o act._n 23.5_o with_o exod._n 22.28_o mat._n 9.18_o luk._n 8.41_o joh._n 3.1_o num._n 3.24_o 30_o 32_o 35._o and_o hereby_o it_o may_v appear_v how_o untrue_a it_o be_v which_o mr_n robinson_n write_v concern_v the_o difference_n betwixt_o civil_a officer_n &_o church-governors_n when_o have_v mention_v some_o of_o the_o title_n give_v to_o magistrate_n he_o say_v 135._o say_v justify_v of_o sep._n p._n 135._o ecclesiastical_a officer_n be_v not_o capable_a of_o these_o &_o the_o like_a title_n which_o can_v neither_o be_v give_v without_o flattery_n unto_o they_o nor_o receive_v by_o they_o without_o arrogancy_n and_o yet_o the_o very_a first_o of_o the_o title_n wherein_o he_o give_v instance_n be_v that_o title_n which_o here_o i_o show_v to_o be_v give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a ruler_n as_o well_o as_o to_o civil_a 5._o the_o title_n of_o head_n rosch_n rosch_n wherein_o mr_n robinson_n ibid._n robinson_n justific_n ibid._n instance_v in_o the_o second_o place_n that_o it_o may_v not_o be_v give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n be_v yet_o if_o we_o will_v regard_v what_o the_o scripture_n affirm_v give_v to_o they_o as_o well_o as_o to_o civil_a ruler_n as_o it_o be_v give_v to_o magistrate_n in_o deut._n 1.15_o the_o place_n allege_v by_o mr_n robinson_n so_o be_v it_o also_o give_v to_o minister_n in_o 1._o chron._n 15.12_o &_o 23.24_o &_o 24.4_o &_o 26.10_o 12._o 2._o chron._n 19.11_o ezra_n 8.1_o 17._o nehem._n 12.12_o 22_o 23_o 24._o 6._o the_o title_n of_o governor_n or_o government_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o the_o greek_n be_v gr._n be_v steph._n thes_n ling._n gr._n note_v to_o use_v to_o express_v the_o power_n of_o civil_a magistrate_n thereby_o by_o a_o metaphor_n from_o pilot_n out_o of_o xenophon_n aristotle_n plato_n cicero_n etc._n etc._n be_v the_o same_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n also_o use_v to_o signify_v unto_o we_o thereby_o the_o authority_n of_o church-governors_n in_o guide_v the_o ship_n of_o christ_n church_n 1._o cor._n 12.28_o 7._o the_o title_n of_o ruler_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o h._n stephanus_n gr._n stephanus_n the_o saur_n l._n gr._n show_v to_o be_v use_v by_o thucydides_n demosthenes_n herodotus_n plato_n plutarch_n &_o other_o for_o the_o ruler_n of_o city_n of_o army_n &_o kingdom_n be_v that_o same_o which_o the_o scripture_n use_v to_o describe_v unto_o we_o those_o officer_n that_o bear_v rule_n in_o the_o church_n which_o be_v the_o city_n of_o the_o live_a god_n and_o his_o spiritual_a kingdom_n rom._n 12.8_o 1._o thes_n 5.12_o 1._o tim._n 5.17_o 8_o the_o title_n of_o elohim_n of_o elohim_n god_n which_o be_v so_o often_o use_v to_o express_v the_o dignity_n and_o authority_n of_o civil_a governor_n psal_n 82.1_o exo._n 21.6_o &_o 22.8_o 1._o sam._n 2.25_o etc._n etc._n be_v also_o give_v to_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n to_o declare_v &_o signify_v the_o authority_n that_o they_o have_v though_o mr_n robinson_n 135._o robinson_n justif_n of_o sep._n p._n 135._o deny_v this_o title_n also_o unto_o they_o yet_o if_o we_o diligent_o weigh_v what_o the_o scripture_n say_v we_o may_v well_o discern_v that_o this_o title_n be_v also_o give_v to_o church-governors_n &_o minister_n for_o 1._o the_o description_n of_o those_o person_n to_o who_o this_o title_n be_v give_v be_v that_o they_o be_v such_o to_o who_o the_o word_n of_o god_n come_v such_o as_o the_o father_n have_v sanctify_v &_o send_v joh._n 10.35_o 36._o and_o therefore_o according_a to_o the_o exposition_n of_o our_o saviour_n see_v the_o word_n of_o god_n be_v come_v unto_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n &_o ruler_n give_v they_o thereby_o a_o commission_n to_o administer_v in_o his_o name_n see_v such_o be_v sanctify_v &_o send_v of_o god_n we_o may_v hereby_o see_v how_o this_o title_n belong_v unto_o they_o 2._o by_o the_o exposition_n &_o application_n of_o the_o apostle_n those_o who_o in_o moses_n be_v call_v god_n &_o ruler_n exod._n 22.28_o be_v show_v to_o be_v ecclesiastical_a ruler_n act._n 23.5_o and_o howsoever_o some_o differ_v about_o this_o title_n yet_o be_v there_o of_o the_o learnede_a that_o do_v 6._o do_v jun._n &_o trem._n annot_n on_o ex._n 22.28_o jun._n anal_n expl_n ex._n 22_o 28._o joan._n rainol_n cens_fw-la lib._n apocr_n tom_fw-mi 1._o prael_n 6._o so_o interpret_v these_o place_n viz._n of_o such_o as_o have_v either_o civil_a or_o ecclesiastical_a administration_n commit_v unto_o they_o and_o if_o we_o come_v unto_o those_o author_n that_o be_v so_o much_o honour_v by_o you_o they_o will_v also_o confirm_v the_o same_o the_o 7.1_o the_o onkelos_n targum_fw-la on_o exo._n 4.16_o &_o 7.1_o chaldee_n paraphra_v upon_o those_o place_n where_o this_o title_n of_o god_n be_v give_v to_o moses_n translate_v it_o rab_n a_o master_n or_o doctor_n which_o be_v such_o a_o word_n as_o be_v give_v unto_o ecclesiastical_a minister_n other_o 22.28_o other_o aben_n ezra_n come_v on_o exo._n 22.28_o of_o the_o learnede_a jew-doctours_a do_v expound_v that_o title_n of_o the_o priest_n &_o levite_n &_o so_o apply_v it_o to_o church-governors_n another_o 22.28_o another_o baal_n hatturim_fw-la on_o exo._n 22.28_o cabalist_n often_o allege_v in_o your_o annotation_n do_v show_v these_o god_n mention_v in_o exo._n 22._o to_o be_v all_o kind_n of_o ruler_n over_o the_o people_n by_o his_o gematria_n because_o the_o numeral_a letter_n of_o the_o word_n elohim_n venasi_fw-la yield_v the_o same_o number_n with_o these_o hu_o dajan_n vecol_fw-mi shehu_fw-mi signify_v judge_n of_o
all_o sort_n the_o say_a word_n as_o they_o be_v write_v in_o their_o own_o letter_n be_v compare_v together_o either_o joint_o or_o several_o ii_o if_o the_o deacon_n may_v distribute_v some_o alm_n unto_o the_o poor_a without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o whole_a congregation_n then_o may_v the_o elder_n also_o judge_v some_o cause_n without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o consequence_n of_o the_o proposition_n be_v prove_v by_o this_o because_o the_o whole_a church_n have_v as_o much_o right_a &_o authority_n to_o dispose_v of_o the_o church-treasure_n &_o alm_n as_o they_o have_v to_o judge_v of_o the_o offence_n that_o be_v commit_v therein_o this_o the_o scripture_n show_v by_o the_o example_n of_o sundry_a church_n of_o antiochia_n macedonia_n achaia_n etc._n etc._n act._n 11.29_o 30._o rom._n 15_o 25-28_a 1._o cor._n 16.3.2_o cor._n 8.1.4.19_o phil._n 2.25_o with_o c._n 4.18_o the_o assumption_n be_v manifest_a and_o your_o own_o practice_n confirm_v it_o iii_o if_o arbiter_n choose_v by_o consent_n of_o some_o particular_a person_n may_v judge_v the_o cause_n of_o wrong_n &_o injury_n whether_o public_a or_o private_a wherein_o they_o strive_v against_o one_o another_o then_o may_v the_o elder_n choose_v by_o consent_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n judge_v the_o cause_n &_o offence_n that_o arise_v when_o they_o willing_o submit_v unto_o the_o same_o but_o arbiter_n so_o choose_v may_v judge_v the_o cause_n refer_v unto_o they_o therefore_o the_o elder_n may_v do_v it_o also_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o proposition_n appear_v because_o the_o free_a &_o solemn_a consent_n of_o the_o church_n in_o any_o election_n give_v authority_n unto_o such_o person_n either_o in_o general_a or_o special_a work_n as_o well_o as_o the_o choice_n of_o any_o particular_a man_n in_o their_o cause_n act._n 14.23_o &_o 2._o cor._n 8.19_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o assumption_n appear_v by_o the_o 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priest_n say_v to_o make_v he_o pollute_v or_o to_o make_v he_o clean_o leu._n 13.3.6_o etc._n etc._n in_o such_o tibar_fw-la such_o timme_fw-mi tibar_fw-la phrase_n as_o in_o their_o full_a signification_n do_v express_v unto_o we_o the_o judicial_a sentence_n of_o their_o remoovall_n out_o of_o the_o host_n as_o well_o as_o a_o bare_a declaration_n of_o their_o opinion_n in_o the_o matter_n even_o as_o the_o like_a use_n of_o other_o phrase_n in_o the_o scripture_n deut._n 25.1_o prov._n 17.15_o signify_v to_o hirshiagn_n to_o hitsdik_fw-mi hirshiagn_n make_v just_a &_o to_o make_v wicked_a do_v also_o import_v the_o judicial_a sentence_n of_o absolution_n &_o condemnation_n &_o not_o only_o a_o declaration_n of_o the_o judge_n opinion_n thereabouts_o 2._o it_o be_v note_v of_o the_o prieft_n that_o in_o doubtful_a case_n in_o the_o trial_n of_o the_o leprosy_n he_o shall_v shut_v up_o he_o that_o have_v the_o plague_n seven_o dave_n levit._fw-la 13.4_o 5._o now_o as_o he_o have_v 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this_o benefit_n of_o combination_n with_o other_o church_n in_o classical_a government_n yet_o do_v we_o acknowledge_v that_o notwithstanding_o this_o want_n such_o a_o church_n may_v still_o subsist_v &_o be_v repute_v a_o true_a church_n and_o yet_o so_o that_o we_o hold_v every_o church_n bind_v to_o seek_v this_o dependency_n &_o union_n with_o other_o church_n as_o god_n shall_v give_v opportunity_n &_o mean_n and_o can_v without_o sin_n neglect_v the_o same_o to_o this_o place_n belong_v the_o answer_n unto_o two_o of_o those_o question_n which_o mr_n can_v 33._o can_v church_n plea._n p._n 33._o propound_v upon_o another_o occasion_n i._o can._n whither_o it_o be_v jure_fw-la divino_fw-la that_o ecclesiastical_a officer_n of_o many_o church_n be_v necessary_o bind_v to_o determine_v by_o joint_a authority_n the_o case_n of_o many_o particular_a congregation_n or_o whither_o it_o be_v a_o thing_n arbitrary_a &_o leave_v unto_o every_o man_n liberty_n answ._n that_o the_o 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rom._n 12.5_o 1._o cor._n 12.25_o eph._n 4.16_o i._o can._n whither_o all_o such_o case_n and_o controversy_n as_o be_v decide_v by_o many_o minister_n combine_v into_o class_n &_o synod_n must_v so_o stand_v as_o that_o particular_a congregation_n may_v not_o if_o they_o think_v fit_a reject_v the_o same_o and_o practice_v otherwise_o then_o have_v be_v there_o determine_v by_o joint_a authority_n answ._n man_n be_v bind_v to_o stand_v unto_o the_o judgement_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n so_o far_o as_o their_o determination_n be_v find_v agreeable_a unto_o the_o word_n &_o no_o further_o act._n 4.19_o but_o if_o any_o particular_a church_n reject_v their_o sentence_n &_o determination_n be_v consonant_n unto_o the_o scripture_n than_o that_o church_n commit_v double_a sin_n once_o for_o transgress_v against_o the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n and_o again_o for_o despise_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o contemn_v the_o joint_a authority_n of_o such_o as_o be_v meet_v together_o in_o his_o name_n particular_a church_n be_v so_o to_o respect_n and_o stand_v unto_o the_o determination_n of_o classical_a or_o provincial_n synod_n even_o as_o particular_a man_n and_o member_n of_o a_o church_n be_v bind_v to_o stand_v unto_o the_o sentence_n of_o that_o church_n where_o they_o be_v member_n viz._n according_a to_o the_o truth_n and_o will_n of_o god_n and_o not_o otherwise_o chap._n ii_o the_o first_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o word_n of_o the_o law_n deut._n 17_o 8-12_a the_o first_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n deliver_v by_o moses_n of_o old_a unto_o israel_n where_o the_o people_n of_o god_n in_o particular_a congregation_n be_v teach_v to_o bring_v their_o hard_a &_o difficult_a controversy_n as_o well_o ecclesiastical_a as_o civil_a unto_o a_o superior_a judicatory_a unto_o the_o priest_n the_o levite_n or_o unto_o the_o judge_n in_o those_o day_n according_a to_o the_o quality_n of_o the_o cause_n for_o the_o decide_n thereof_o deut._n 17_o 8-12_a this_o order_n be_v also_o reestablish_v in_o the_o day_n of_o jehoshaphat_n who_o place_v and_o settle_v in_o jerusalem_n a_o ecclesiastical_a synedrion_fw-mi or_o senate_n for_o the_o matter_n of_o the_o lord_n over_o which_o amariah_n be_v precedent_n &_o these_o be_v to_o receive_v the_o complaint_n and_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o their_o brethren_n that_o come_v up_o unto_o they_o from_o other_o city_n &_o place_n of_o their_o habitation_n even_o as_o there_o be_v also_o a_o civil_a synedrion_fw-mi for_o the_o affair_n of_o the_o king_n over_o which_o zebadiah_n be_v precedent_n 2._o chron._n 19_o 8-11_a this_o form_n of_o government_n be_v commend_v unto_o we_o of_o david_n as_o the_o praise_n of_o jerusalem_n when_o he_o point_v out_o distinct_o these_o two_o kind_n of_o senate_n 122._o senate_n see_v jun._n annot._n on_o psal_n 122._o ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a throne_n of_o judgement_n and_o throne_n of_o the_o house_n of_o david_n whereunto_o the_o tribe_n even_o the_o tribe_n of_o the_o lord_n do_v go_v up_o psa_fw-la 122.4.5_o as_o paul_n once_o rejoice_v in_o the_o spirit_n to_o see_v the_o order_n of_o the_o colossian_n col._n 2.5_o so_o david_n consider_v the_o beauty_n of_o this_o order_n declare_v the_o same_o to_o be_v one_o special_a cause_n of_o his_o spiritual_a gladness_n &_o joy_n in_o the_o lord_n witness_v in_o that_o psalm_n hereby_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o assembly_n &_o synagogue_n of_o israel_n be_v not_o independent_a but_o stand_v under_o a_o ecclesiastical_a authority_n out_o of_o themselves_o they_o have_v no_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n all_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v not_o limit_v unto_o particular_a congregation_n now_o let_v we_o see_v what_o our_o opposite_n say_v to_o this_o i._o can._n 44._o can._n church_n plea._n p._n 43_o 44._o he_o seek_v to_o strengthen_v the_o authority_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n by_o the_o jewish_a polity_n &_o government_n now_o the_o papist_n to_o establish_v the_o sea_n of_o rome_n use_v the_o same_o argument_n and_o the_o truth_n be_v if_z mr_n paget_n intend_v to_o dispute_v this_o way_n they_o will_v carry_v it_o quite_o away_o from_o he_o but_o i_o think_v he_o will_v hereafter_o be_v more_o considerate_a and_o speak_v no_o further_o of_o that_o manner_n and_o form_n of_o church_n government_n see_v he_o know_v the_o most_o learned_a on_o our_o side_n do_v condemn_v the_o papist_n for_o it_o viz._n 4._o viz._n animadv_n contr_n 1._o l._n 3._o c._n 4._o junius_n 2._o junius_n inst_z l._n 4._o c_o 6._o sect_n 2._o calvin_n 614._o calvin_n ag._n whitg_n l._n 2._o p._n 614._o cartwright_n 1._o cartwright_n contr._n 4._o qu._n 1._o d._n whitaker_n &_o other_o answ._n mr_n ainsworth_n before_o he_o speak_v much_o in_o like_a manner_n to_o this_o purpose_n he_o say_v 15.16_o say_v animadv_n p._n 15.16_o it_o be_v a_o main_a pillar_n of_o popery_n to_o proportion_v the_o church_n now_o in_o the_o outward_a polity_n to_o israel_n the_o rhemist_n will_v have_v 23.2_o have_v rhem._n annot_fw-mi on_o mat._n 23.2_o the_o see_v of_o rome_n in_o the_o new_a law_n to_o be_v answerable_a to_o the_o chair_n of_o moses_n cardinal_n bellarmine_n 1_o bellarmine_n de_fw-fr rom._n pout_v l._n 4._o c._n 1_o make_v his_o first_o argument_n for_o the_o pope_n judge_v of_o controversy_n from_o the_o priest_n &_o judge_n that_o be_v appoint_v in_o the_o law_n deut._n 17._o etc._n etc._n and_o there_o also_o he_o allege_v three_o of_o the_o same_o witness_n against_o argue_v from_o the_o jewish_a policy_n which_o here_o mr_n can_n cit_v again_o mr_n davenp_n plead_v to_o the_o same_o effect_n say_v 254._o say_v apol._n repl_n p._n 254._o the_o text_n which_o bellarmine_n allege_v for_o the_o power_n of_o council_n in_o make_v law_n be_v the_o same_o which_o the_o answerer_n sometime_o harp_v upon_o in_o this_o case_n but_o junius_n clear_o show_v that_o they_o
superior_a judicatory_a either_o civil_a or_o ecclesiastical_a to_o be_v among_o these_o judicial_a law_n that_o be_v perpetual_a arise_v from_o the_o ground_n of_o common_a equity_n in_o like_a manner_n g._n bucerus_n speak_v of_o these_o same_o judicatories_n inferior_a &_o superior_a &_o apply_v that_o which_o he_o have_v speak_v before_o in_o general_a unto_o this_o particular_a ordinance_n show_v that_o 65._o that_o dissert_n de_fw-fr gubern_n eccl._n p._n 65._o the_o judicatories_n of_o the_o church_n at_o this_o day_n be_v lawful_o frame_v according_a to_o the_o same_o form_n and_o that_o the_o reasonis_fw-la because_o it_o clear_o appear_v that_o this_o order_n be_v ancient_o institute_v of_o god_n &_o most_o religious_o observe_v of_o the_o father_n do_v belong_v only_o unto_o the_o good_a order_n of_o the_o church_n and_o not_o unto_o the_o paedagogie_n of_o the_o law_n etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o to_o be_v abolish_v again_o it_o be_v prophesy_v of_o christ_n and_o his_o kingdom_n that_o he_o shall_v deliver_v the_o needy_a when_o he_o cry_v the_o poor_a also_o and_o he_o that_o have_v no_o helper_n that_o he_o shall_v redeem_v their_o soul_n from_o deceit_n &_o violence_n etc._n etc._n psal_n 72.12_o 14._o but_o if_o liberty_n of_o appeal_v be_v now_o take_v away_o by_o the_o come_n of_o christ_n then_o in_o respect_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n confess_v to_o be_v a_o part_n of_o christ_n kingdom_n the_o yoke_n of_o the_o law_n shall_v be_v more_o tolerable_a sweet_a and_o easy_a in_o this_o point_n of_o appeal_n than_o the_o yoke_n of_o christ_n for_o under_o the_o law_n the_o poor_a be_v oppress_v in_o judgement_n by_o unrighteous_a judge_n in_o one_o place_n they_o cry_v for_o help_v by_o appeal_n unto_o a_o superior_a synedrion_fw-mi and_o there_o find_v release_v and_o so_o be_v redeem_v from_o deceit_n &_o violence_n but_o now_o under_o the_o gospel_n if_o it_o be_v as_o our_o opposite_n hold_v that_o all_o spiritual_a 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that_o will_v &_o can_v give_v i_o they_o and_o i_o make_v open_a promise_n of_o prosecute_a this_o my_o appellation_n by_o the_o way_n of_o disannul_v abuse_n etc._n etc._n but_o according_a to_o the_o tenent_n of_o our_o opposite_n it_o shall_v thus_o have_v be_v answer_v unto_o he_o by_o they_o seek_v no_o comfort_n in_o such_o appeal_v under_o moses_n policy_n they_o be_v lawful_a but_o now_o under_o the_o new_a testament_n they_o be_v unlawful_a there_o be_v no_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n out_o of_o a_o particular_a church_n that_o may_v give_v sentence_n in_o your_o cause_n etc._n etc._n what_o a_o unworthy_a conceit_n be_v this_o thus_o to_o dishonour_v the_o new_a testament_n as_o if_o god_n have_v show_v more_o grace_n and_o provide_v more_o help_n for_o afflict_a soul_n under_o the_o law_n then_o under_o the_o gospel_n this_o erroneous_a conceit_n be_v so_o much_o the_o more_o blame-worthy_a in_o some_o of_o the_o brownist_n in_o that_o when_o they_o plead_v against_o the_o usurpation_n and_o injustice_n of_o elder_n they_o they_o confess_v this_o same_o thing_n in_o effect_n say_v 22._o say_v h._n ain_n animadv_n p._n 22._o be_v it_o meet_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v judge_n in_o their_o own_o case_n in_o israel_n when_o any_o complain_v of_o wrong_n in_o the_o synagogue_n or_o city_n there_o be_v a_o high_a court_n to_o control_v unruly_a elder_n &_o to_o help_v the_o oppress_v but_o now_o 2_o or_o 3_o elder_n in_o a_o church_n bear_v themselves_o upon_o their_o forge_a â—â—thority_n from_o mat._n 18.17.20_o may_v be_v lawless_a and_o who_o shall_v let_v they_o in_o their_o proceed_n and_o for_o proof_n of_o this_o liberty_n in_o israel_n they_o allege_v deut._n 17.8_o 9_o &_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 10._o and_o why_o then_o can_v mr_n can_v endure_v that_o i_o shall_v allege_v the_o very_a same_o scripture_n to_o a_o like_a end_n for_o be_v it_o meet_v that_o particular_a church_n shall_v be_v judge_n in_o their_o own_o case_n in_o israel_n if_o 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and_o natural_a right_n and_o certain_o very_o necessary_a in_o every_o society_n because_o of_o the_o iniquity_n or_o ignorance_n of_o many_o judge_n otherwise_o the_o innocent_a person_n shall_v be_v undo_v if_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a to_o appeal_v from_o a_o unrighteous_a sentence_n and_o see_v many_o controversy_n do_v arise_v in_o cause_n &_o person_n ecclesiastical_a who_o can_v deny_v that_o the_o right_n of_o appeal_v be_v of_o necessity_n to_o be_v grant_v thus_o he_o avouch_v that_o the_o denial_n of_o appeal_n be_v against_o common_a equity_n against_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n d._n rainolds_n also_o 572.575_o also_o conf._n with_o hart_n c._n 9_o div_o 2._o p._n 572.575_o agree_v with_o d._n whit._n in_o allow_v of_o appeal_n in_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n as_o both_o of_o they_o condemn_v the_o appeal_v unto_o
rome_n so_o both_o do_v grant_v liberty_n of_o appeal_v unto_o synod_n yea_o and_o all_o the_o argument_n general_o both_o of_o greek_n and_o latin_n direct_v against_o the_o appeal_n make_v unto_o the_o pope_n do_v yet_o reserve_v a_o liberty_n of_o appeal_n unto_o synod_n this_o may_v be_v observe_v from_o d._n whit._n in_o his_o etc._n his_o de_fw-fr pont._n rom._n qu._n 4._o p._n 4_o 6._o &_o 48â—_n etc._n etc._n large_a &_o ample_a defence_n of_o the_o argument_n of_o nilus_n the_o learned_a bishop_n of_o thessalonica_n as_o he_o call_v he_o and_o in_o his_o maintain_n of_o the_o argument_n of_o the_o latin_n also_o and_o now_o if_o these_o appeal_n be_v grant_v then_o be_v the_o question_n clear_o grant_v and_o full_o yield_v unto_o i_o then_o be_v not_o all_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n limit_v to_o a_o particular_a church_n then_o be_v not_o church_n independent_a then_o be_v there_o a_o superior_a ecclesiastical_a power_n to_o judge_v the_o controversy_n of_o particular_a 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policy_n 276.277_o policy_n 8._o theol._n lib._n 7._o c._n 7._o p._n 276.277_o allege_v this_o also_o deut._n 17.9_o with_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o zepperus_n to_o show_v a_o divine_a warrant_n for_o the_o government_n of_o church_n by_o synod_n 709._o synod_n polit._n eccles_n l._n 3._o c._n 8._o p._n 707._o &_o 709._o allege_v these_o same_o place_n of_o scripture_n deut._n 17.8_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o ruardus_fw-la acronius_n in_o like_a manner_n in_o his_o treatise_n 13._o treatise_n cap._n 7._o with_o c._n 13._o of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n &_o the_o government_n thereof_o to_o teach_v how_o the_o more_o weighty_a controversy_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v from_o synagogue_n and_o from_o particular_a congregation_n unto_o great_a assembly_n he_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o judicial_a law_n of_o moses_n this_o special_a place_n deut._n 17.8_o etc._n etc._n to_o omit_v many_o other_o how_o be_v it_o that_o mr_n can_v do_v so_o much_o forget_v the_o practice_n of_o his_o own_o sect_n 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these_o to_o eat_v up_o and_o devour_v at_o one_o mouthful_n a_o whole_a book_n of_o judicial_a law_n and_o not_o to_o permit_v another_o to_o have_v a_o crumb_n thereof_o or_o to_o allege_v one_o of_o those_o ordinance_n to_o prove_v that_o prince_n for_o their_o transgression_n be_v subject_a unto_o censure_n and_o judgement_n 245._o judgement_n ibid._n p._n 14._o &_o 245._o to_o be_v disfranchise_v out_o of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o be_v deliver_v over_o unto_o satan_n as_o well_o as_o any_o other_o offendor_n he_o allege_v sundry_a example_n and_o all_o out_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n all_o of_o such_o king_n as_o stand_v under_o the_o jewish_a policy_n can_v they_o from_o the_o jewish_a policy_n prove_v they_o to_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o great_a censure_n and_o can_v they_o not_o from_o the_o same_o law_n procure_v they_o liberry_n of_o appeal_n when_o they_o judge_v they_o be_v oppress_v be_v the_o policy_n of_o moses_n in_o force_n to_o bind_v they_o and_o be_v it_o then_o abrogate_v when_o they_o seek_v relief_n by_o appeal_n unto_o a_o superior_a judicatory_a this_o be_v indeed_o a_o injury_n &_o a_o misery_n to_o prince_n &_o people_n to_o high_a and_o low_a to_o be_v bring_v into_o great_a bondage_n under_o christ_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n than_o other_o be_v under_o moses_n in_o the_o old_a these_o thing_n be_v due_o consider_v it_o may_v hereby_o also_o appear_v how_o vain_a that_o be_v which_z mr_n dau._n except_v concern_v appeal_n or_o the_o bring_n of_o cause_n unto_o class_n touch_v that_o which_o i_o have_v say_v upon_o another_o occasion_n from_o deut._n 17.8_o with_o 1.12_o &_o 2._o chron._n 19.8.9_o 10._o he_o except_v as_o follow_v i._o dav_n 215_o dav_n apol._n repl._n p._n 215_o the_o pretend_a reason_n etc._n etc._n will_v not_o help_v he_o in_o the_o case_n question_v unless_o he_o can_v prove_v i._o that_o the_o class_n be_v of_o the_o same_o use_n by_o divine_a institution_n for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n which_o have_v the_o assistance_n of_o their_o eldership_n whereof_o that_o judicatory_a be_v for_o the_o help_n of_o moses_n etc._n etc._n answ._n i._o observe_v how_o mr_n dau._n being_n a_o accuser_n and_o a_o advocate_n of_o accuser_n instead_o of_o bring_v any_o proof_n to_o justify_v the_o accusation_n call_v upon_o i_o for_o proof_n of_o that_o establish_a order_n of_o government_n so_o long_o enjoy_v in_o these_o country_n ii_o see_v it_o appear_v that_o the_o order_n of_o ecclesiastical_a government_n prescribe_v deut._n 17._o &_o 2._o chron._n 19_o be_v for_o the_o substance_n of_o it_o no_o part_n of_o the_o ceremonial_a law_n but_o of_o common_a and_o perpetual_a equity_n and_o that_o the_o power_n of_o class_n for_o the_o receive_n of_o appeal_n &_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v include_v therein_o it_o be_v thence_o also_o manifest_a that_o the_o power_n &_o authority_n exercise_v by_o class_n &_o synod_n be_v therefore_o of_o divine_a institution_n for_o the_o same_o use_n from_o the_o same_o ground_n of_o holy_a scripture_n iii_o what_o reason_n have_v he_o in_o describe_v the_o use_n of_o class_n to_o mention_v this_o only_a that_o they_o be_v for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n see_v both_o they_o &_o those_o judicatories_n deut._n 17.2_o chron._n 19_o be_v for_o the_o help_n &_o benefit_n of_o every_o member_n of_o the_o synagogue_n then_o and_o the_o church_n now_o as_o well_o as_o for_o the_o help_n of_o pastor_n iu._n what_o reason_n have_v he_o also_o in_o speak_v of_o pastor_n now_o to_o add_v these_o word_n which_o have_v the_o assistance_n of_o their_o eldership_n see_v in_o the_o synagogue_n ancient_o their_o pastor_n &_o teacher_n have_v the_o assistance_n of_o a_o eldership_n and_o ruler_n of_o the_o synagogue_n as_o well_o as_o now_o i._o dav_n it_o be_v to_o be_v prove_v ii_o that_o the_o cause_n in_o question_n which_o
say_v if_o thy_o brother_n sin_n against_o thou_o etc._n etc._n so_o have_v moses_n do_v before_o thou_o shall_v not_o hate_v thy_o brother_n in_o thy_o heart_n etc._n etc._n as_o christ_n require_v not_o only_o a_o simple_a tell_n of_o the_o fault_n but_o a_o 〈◊〉_d a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d convince_a of_o the_o offendor_n so_o have_v moses_n teach_v israel_n before_o tochiach_n before_o hocheach_v tochiach_n thorough_o to_o reprove_v or_o convince_v and_o not_o to_o suffer_v sin_n upon_o a_o brother_n mat._n 18.15_o with_o leu._n 19.17_o as_o christ_n in_o the_o same_o place_n to_o encourage_v unto_o this_o duty_n propound_v the_o win_n of_o a_o brother_n so_o the_o lord_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n show_v how_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o righteous_a be_v a_o tree_n of_o life_n and_o how_o the_o wise_a do_v win_v soul_n prov._n 11.30_o thus_o far_o it_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n the_o second_o degree_n of_o admonition_n be_v with_o witness_n if_o he_o hear_v thou_o not_o take_v with_o thou_o one_o or_o two_o more_o that_o in_o the_o mouth_n of_o two_o or_o three_o witness_n every_o word_n may_v be_v establish_v mat._n 18.16_o this_o be_v express_o take_v from_o &_o ground_v upon_o the_o policy_n of_o moses_n who_o prescribe_v the_o same_o order_n for_o israel_n deut._n 19.15_o hitherto_o therefore_o it_o be_v the_o same_o rule_n the_o three_o degree_n of_o admonition_n be_v by_o the_o church_n be_v complain_v unto_o and_o tell_v of_o the_o offence_n mat._n 18.17_o this_o admonition_n be_v also_o observe_v in_o israel_n when_o as_o the_o church_n or_o those_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n which_o represent_v the_o church_n either_o in_o synagogue_n or_o as_o occasion_n require_v in_o superior_a judicatories_n do_v teach_v inform_v and_o admonish_v offender_n before_o they_o give_v sentence_n of_o their_o obstinacy_n and_o presumption_n deut._n 17.9_o 10_o 11._o 2._o chron._n 19.10_o herein_o likewise_o the_o same_o rule_n be_v prescribe_v and_o the_o word_n thus_o due_o speak_v in_o his_o place_n or_o ophnan_o or_o gnal_n ophnan_o on_o the_o wheel_n of_o order_n in_o divers_a degree_n of_o admonition_n that_o it_o may_v run_v and_o prevail_v be_v like_o apple_n of_o gold_n in_o picture_n of_o silver_n prov._n 25.11_o the_o censure_n which_o follow_v upon_o the_o contempt_n of_o these_o admonition_n be_v excommunication_n or_o rejection_n of_o the_o obstinate_a offender_n mat._n 18.17_o this_o be_v no_o new_a kind_n of_o censure_n see_v excommunication_n be_v also_o a_o ancient_a ordinance_n a_o part_n of_o that_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n under_o the_o old_a testament_n yea_o describe_v by_o the_o same_o phrase_n of_o â—â—tting_v off_o exod._n 12.19_o num._n 15.30_o 31._o which_o be_v also_o use_v in_o the_o gospel_n of_o christ_n gal._n 5.12_o as_o in_o israel_n they_o have_v a_o censure_n of_o separate_n from_o the_o congregation_n ezra_n 10.8_o so_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n in_o a_o equivalent_a phrase_n the_o like_a judgement_n be_v signify_v by_o denounce_v some_o to_o be_v accurse_v anathema_n or_o separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o god_n gal._n 1.9_o and_o even_o in_o this_o text_n mat._n 18.17_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n be_v describe_v by_o declare_v man_n to_o be_v as_o heathen_n &_o publican_n there_o be_v not_o only_o a_o manifest_a allusion_n and_o respect_n unto_o the_o estate_n of_o the_o jew_n but_o a_o commandment_n of_o the_o same_o order_n for_o avoid_v the_o obstinate_a by_o deny_v civil_a communion_n of_o eat_v &_o drink_v with_o excommunicate_n as_o they_o do_v unto_o the_o publican_n mat._n 9.11_o luk._n 15.2_o and_o both_o religious_a &_o civil_a communion_n both_o in_o public_a &_o private_a as_o they_o do_v unto_o the_o heathen_a act._n 11.2_o 3._o &_o 21.28_o 29._o neither_o can_v this_o rule_n be_v well_o understand_v without_o knowledge_n of_o the_o present_a practice_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o this_o behalf_n the_o confirmation_n of_o this_o censure_n be_v describe_v in_o the_o rule_n of_o christ_n by_o a_o threefold_a testimony_n and_o promise_n 1._o that_o this_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n give_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v ratify_v in_o heaven_n either_o for_o bind_v or_o lose_v mat._n 18.18_o and_o so_o moses_n set_v life_n and_o death_n blessing_n and_o curse_v the_o judgement_n of_o god_n before_o israel_n call_v heaven_n &_o earth_n to_o record_v for_o confirmation_n to_o bind_v they_o to_o reverence_v those_o ordinance_n of_o god_n deut._n 30.19_o &_o 4.26_o 2._o as_o solomon_n under_o the_o law_n at_o the_o build_n of_o the_o temple_n do_v by_o his_o prayer_n confirm_v israel_n in_o hope_n of_o have_v their_o prayer_n to_o ascend_v from_o earth_n to_o heaven_n 1._o king_n 8.30_o 31_o 32._o so_o christ_n here_o promise_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o those_o which_o agree_v touch_v any_o thing_n on_o earth_n shall_v be_v grant_v in_o heaven_n vers_fw-la 19_o 3._o as_o josaphat_n for_o the_o establishment_n of_o the_o judaical_a policy_n encourage_v the_o judge_n with_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n presence_n &_o assistance_n that_o the_o lord_n will_v be_v with_o they_o in_o the_o matter_n of_o judgement_n that_o the_o lord_n will_v be_v with_o the_o good_a 2._o chron._n 19.6_o 11._o so_o here_o christ_n to_o encourage_v his_o servant_n in_o the_o observation_n of_o this_o order_n promise_v his_o presence_n to_o be_v in_o the_o midst_n of_o two_o or_o three_o gather_v together_o in_o his_o name_n vers_fw-la 20._o thus_o it_o appear_v from_o the_o enumeration_n of_o all_o the_o several_a part_n of_o this_o rule_n compare_v with_o the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n that_o this_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n though_o there_o be_v many_o other_o ceremonial_a and_o temporary_a ordinance_n in_o the_o law_n for_o the_o purge_n of_o sin_n and_o uncleanness_n yet_o so_o far_o as_o concern_v this_o rule_n mat._n 18._o there_o be_v no_o new_a order_n prescribe_v herein_o here_o be_v nothing_o specify_v which_o be_v not_o teach_v before_o even_o those_o witness_n before_o allege_a by_o mr_n can_n and_o before_o he_o by_o mr_n ainsw_n do_v testify_v the_o same_o they_o and_o other_o the_o most_o excellent_a servant_n of_o god_n the_o star_n of_o the_o church_n subscribe_v unto_o this_o truth_n and_o bear_v witness_n with_o we_o unto_o this_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n and_o argue_v divers_a way_n for_o the_o authority_n of_o class_n &_o synod_n from_o this_o place_n mat._n 18._o and_o special_o in_o this_o respect_n that_o it_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n calvine_n speak_v of_o this_o rule_n and_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n prescribe_v therein_o say_v plain_o 4._o plain_o instit_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 11._o §_o 2._o &_o 4._o christus_fw-la nihil_fw-la hîc_fw-la novum_fw-la instituit_fw-la etc._n etc._n christ_n here_o institute_v no_o new_a thing_n but_o follow_v the_o custom_n always_o observe_v in_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o his_o own_o nation_n whereby_o he_o signify_v that_o the_o church_n can_v not_o want_v the_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n which_o have_v be_v from_o the_o beginning_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o he_o also_o apply_v unto_o the_o jurisdiction_n exercise_v in_o synod_n when_o he_o write_v 2._o write_v ibid._n c._n 9_o §_o 2._o if_o it_o be_v demand_v what_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n be_v from_o the_o scripture_n there_o be_v no_o clear_a promise_n extant_a then_o in_o this_o sentence_n of_o christ_n where_o two_o or_o three_o be_v gather_v together_o in_o my_o name_n there_o be_o i_o in_o the_o midst_n of_o they_o mat._n 18.20_o again_o in_o his_o exposition_n of_o those_o word_n tell_v the_o church_n he_o say_v 18.17_o say_v harm_n evang._n in_o mat._n 18.17_o the_o quaestion_n be_v what_o he_o mean_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n for_o paul_n command_v that_o the_o incestuous_a corinthian_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v not_o by_o any_o choice_n number_n but_o by_o the_o whole_a company_n of_o the_o godly_a 1._o cor._n 5.5_o 6._o and_o therefore_o it_o may_v seem_v probable_a that_o the_o judgement_n be_v here_o refer_v unto_o all_o the_o people_n but_o because_o there_o be_v then_o no_o church_n which_o have_v give_v the_o name_n unto_o christ_n nor_o such_o a_o manner_n appoint_v but_o that_o the_o lord_n speak_v as_o of_o a_o usual_a and_o receive_a custom_n there_o be_v no_o doubt_n but_o that_o he_o allude_v unto_o the_o order_n of_o the_o old_a church_n even_o as_o in_o other_o place_n also_o he_o apply_v his_o speech_n unto_o the_o know_a custom_n etc._n etc._n so_o therefore_o he_o now_o have_v respect_n unto_o the_o form_n of_o discipline_n which_o be_v receive_v among_o the_o jew_n because_o it_o will_v have_v be_v absurd_a to_o propound_v the_o judgement_n of_o a_o church_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o moreover_o see_v the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n among_o the_o jew_n be_v now_o in_o the_o
no_o new_a rule_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n when_o the_o like_a order_n be_v establish_v for_o go_v first_o unto_o the_o eldership_n and_o seek_v redress_n of_o evil_a by_o they_o mr_n ainsw_n acknowledge_v that_o 451._o that_o ibid._n p._n 451._o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v in_o more_o special_a manner_n give_v unto_o they_o and_o therefore_o in_o special_a manner_n ought_v they_o to_o be_v tell_v and_o speak_v unto_o for_o the_o reformation_n of_o evil_n see_v they_o be_v to_o guide_v and_o go_v before_o the_o people_n as_o in_o other_o affair_n so_o in_o administer_a the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n therefore_o ordinary_o matter_n be_v to_o be_v bring_v unto_o they_o before_o they_o be_v bring_v unto_o the_o whole_a congregation_n 11._o as_o it_o be_v the_o ordinance_n of_o god_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n 1._o cor._n 5._o &_o according_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o these_o country_n that_o the_o more_o weighty_a affair_n &_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v not_o be_v administer_v without_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n so_o that_o none_o be_v either_o receive_v for_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n or_o cast_v out_o by_o excommunication_n but_o they_o do_v first_o tell_v the_o church_n even_o the_o whole_a congregation_n be_v solemn_o &_o public_o acquaint_v therewith_o &_o liberty_n grant_v unto_o they_o to_o show_v their_o assent_n or_o dissent_v therein_o so_o mr_n ainsw_n himself_o acknowledge_v that_o there_o be_v a_o like_a order_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n the_o scripture_n which_o he_o allege_v and_o his_o manner_n of_o argue_v from_o they_o do_v import_v so_o much_o of_o israel_n he_o say_v 8._o say_v commun_n of_o s._n c._n 18._o §_o 8._o unto_o all_o &_o every_o of_o the_o israelite_n be_v commend_v the_o care_n &_o observation_n of_o all_o god_n statute_n that_o neither_o all_o nor_o any_o of_o they_o man_n nor_o woman_n nor_o family_n nor_o tribe_n shall_v forsake_v the_o lord_n nor_o suffer_v among_o they_o any_o root_n to_o bring_v forth_o gall_n and_o wormwood_n etc._n etc._n deut._n 29.18_o so_o of_o the_o multitude_n of_o believer_n and_o people_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n he_o write_v in_o like_a manner_n that_o 9_o that_o ibid._n §_o 9_o they_o be_v will_v to_o exhort_v and_o admonish_v each_o other_o even_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o look_v that_o no_o root_n of_o bitterness_n spring_v up_o and_o trouble_v they_o etc._n etc._n heb._n 12.15_o etc._n etc._n again_o he_o say_v 8._o say_v ibid._n c._n 18._o §_o 8._o even_o the_o leprous_a &_o unclean_a though_o the_o trial_n of_o they_o apperteyn_v to_o the_o priest_n leu._n 13._o yet_o all_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n be_v to_o look_v that_o such_o be_v remove_v out_o of_o the_o host_n yea_o the_o care_n of_o the_o priest_n purity_n in_o their_o administration_n apperteyn_v to_o all_o the_o people_n levit._fw-la 21.1_o 8_o 24._o and_o long_o after_o both_o in_o counsel_n &_o in_o the_o redress_v of_o public_a evil_n and_o trespass_n all_o israel_n indifferent_o have_v their_o hand_n and_o presence_n as_o the_o scripture_n show_v 2._o chron._n 30.21_o 23._o ezra_n 10.1_o 9_o 12_o etc._n etc._n then_o present_o he_o parallel_v the_o course_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n with_o this_o suppose_a practice_n in_o the_o old_a save_v the_o church_n in_o the_o apostle_n day_n have_v also_o the_o like_a right_n and_o liberty_n for_o the_o multitude_n of_o believer_n be_v both_o beholder_n and_o actor_n in_o the_o common_a affair_n etc._n etc._n afterward_o again_o speak_v of_o the_o rule_n of_o admonition_n &_o of_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n he_o say_v 449._o say_v ibid._n c._n 22._o §_o 12_o p._n 449._o the_o keep_n of_o which_o rule_n belong_v to_o all_o the_o saint_n as_o the_o commandment_n direct_v of_o old_a to_o the_o child_n of_o israel_n num._n 5.2_o levit._fw-la 19.17_o and_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o all_o the_o brethren_n &_o church_n do_v show_v matt._n 18.15_o 1._o cor._n 5._o and_o thus_o by_o his_o own_o confession_n yea_o even_o according_a to_o his_o own_o opinion_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o church_n power_n and_o the_o people_n right_a there_o be_v no_o new_a rule_n give_v by_o christ_n in_o mat._n 18._o whereas_o it_o be_v object_v that_o the_o jewish_a synedrion_fw-mi 76._o synedrion_fw-mi h._n barr._n resut_o of_o giff._n p._n 76._o by_o the_o institution_n of_o god_n be_v mere_o civil_a etc._n etc._n that_o 21._o that_o d._n bilson_n perpet_n gov_fw-mi ch_n 4._o p._n 21._o moses_n appoint_v neither_o judge_n nor_o elder_n in_o city_n or_o synedrion_n but_o they_o be_v magistrate_n to_o execute_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o law_n &_o have_v the_o sword_n to_o chastise_v the_o body_n and_o punish_v with_o death_n etc._n etc._n the_o error_n of_o this_o assertion_n have_v be_v show_v 35.41_o show_v pag._n 34_o 35.41_o before_o from_o the_o scripture_n deut._n 17._o &_o 2._o chron._n 19_o from_o these_o place_n be_v the_o distinction_n of_o civil_a and_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n maintain_v by_o many_o learned_a writer_n as_o 204._o as_o conf._n with_o hart_n c._n 6._o div_o 2._o p._n 203_o 204._o d._n rainolds_n 152.153_o rainolds_n first_o reply_n to_o d._n whitg_n p._n 192._o second_o reply_n latter_a part_n p._n 152.153_o mr_n cartwright_n 490.491_o cartwright_n counterp_v in_o part_n of_o regist_n p._n 490.491_o mr_n fenner_n and_o the_o 522._o the_o ibid._n p._n 522._o defender_n of_o he_o and_o most_o large_o by_o etc._n by_o diss_n de_fw-fr gub._n eccl._n p._n 59_o etc._n etc._n g._n bucerus_n as_o for_o h._n barrow_n he_o sufficient_o resute_v himself_o when_o he_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o priest_n do_v bear_v the_o charge_n and_o have_v the_o decide_n of_o all_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n numb_a 18._o deut._n 17._o this_o they_o can_v not_o do_v without_o judge_v of_o they_o &_o therefore_o it_o appear_v hence_o that_o they_o have_v a_o double_a synedrion_fw-mi one_o ecclesiastical_a the_o other_o civil_a chap._n vi_o the_o three_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o the_o apostle_n time_n our_o three_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a christian_a church_n after_o the_o ascension_n of_o christ_n from_o which_o we_o reason_n on_o this_o manner_n that_o government_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v commend_v unto_o we_o &_o approve_v by_o the_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o apostolic_a church_n be_v worthy_o to_o be_v embrace_v of_o we_o but_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o synod_n which_o beside_o their_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n do_v also_o with_o authority_n judge_n and_o determine_v the_o weighty_a cause_n and_o affair_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v commend_v unto_o we_o as_o be_v above_o say_v therefore_o etc._n etc._n the_o assumption_n of_o this_o argument_n be_v prove_v i._o by_o that_o holy_a assembly_n or_o synod_n which_o be_v record_v act._n 1_n 15-26_a wherein_o there_o be_v not_o only_o counsel_v give_v but_o also_o a_o exercise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a power_n &_o authority_n and_o that_o in_o such_o a_o business_n as_o be_v of_o great_a and_o rare_a importance_n in_o the_o choice_n of_o a_o new_a apostle_n this_o assembly_n be_v not_o a_o ordinary_a congregation_n or_o particular_a church_n but_o it_o be_v a_o synodical_a assembly_n and_o perform_v such_o a_o work_n as_o do_v not_o belong_v unto_o any_o one_o particular_a church_n this_o appear_v divers_a way_n i._o in_o respect_n of_o the_o person_n of_o who_o this_o assembly_n do_v consist_v and_o these_o again_o of_o two_o sort_n first_o of_o apostle_n who_o be_v such_o person_n as_o be_v not_o tie_v unto_o any_o particular_a church_n but_o have_v a_o universal_a charge_n matt._n 28.19_o rom._n 10.15_o 18._o this_o commission_n be_v unto_o they_o as_o much_o as_o if_o they_o have_v have_v a_o special_a delegation_n from_o many_o or_o all_o church_n so_o that_o their_o presence_n and_o concurrence_n be_v sufficient_a to_o make_v this_o assembly_n in_o some_o measure_n as_o a_o general_a or_o universal_a synod_n these_o eleven_o apostle_n have_v also_o a_o peculiar_a charge_n to_o be_v at_o this_o time_n at_o jerusalem_n the_o place_n of_o this_o assembly_n and_o to_o tarry_v there_o for_o a_o while_n luk._n 24.49_o act._n 1.4_o be_v by_o divine_a direction_n bring_v unto_o this_o synod_n second_o for_o other_o person_n the_o disciple_n that_o be_v present_a at_o this_o assembly_n it_o appear_v they_o be_v from_o divers_a place_n some_o of_o they_o from_o galilee_n as_o the_o brethren_n of_o christ_n there_o mention_v act._n 1.14_o with_o mat._n 13.55_o 56._o &_o how_o many_o of_o they_o be_v inhabitant_n of_o jerusalem_n or_o judaea_n it_o be_v not_o specify_v
so_o that_o the_o 120_o person_n meet_v together_o at_o this_o time_n act._n 1.15_o can_v be_v say_v to_o have_v be_v a_o distinct_a particular_a church_n of_o person_n dwell_v in_o jerusalem_n but_o a_o occasional_a assembly_n or_o synod_n upon_o such_o ground_n as_o the_o story_n of_o the_o scripture_n do_v manifest_a ii_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o business_n itself_o here_o perform_v viz._n the_o election_n of_o a_o apostle_n it_o be_v such_o a_o work_n as_o do_v not_o appertain_v unto_o any_o one_o particular_a church_n but_o all_o church_n have_v interest_n therein_o see_v the_o care_n of_o all_o the_o church_n be_v commit_v unto_o the_o apostle_n 2._o cor._n 11.28_o all_o church_n be_v alike_o bind_v to_o beware_v of_o false_a apostle_n that_o can_v transform_v themselves_o into_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n 2._o cor._n 11.13_o it_o have_v be_v a_o presumption_n in_o any_o one_o church_n and_o a_o wrong_n unto_o all_o the_o rest_n if_o without_o their_o consent_n one_o alone_o shall_v have_v choose_v a_o apostle_n especial_o consider_v there_o be_v even_o at_o this_o time_n a_o multitude_n of_o the_o faithful_a in_o other_o place_n who_o this_o work_n concern_v many_o have_v be_v late_o convert_v by_o the_o ministry_n of_o john_n baptist_n matt._n 11.12_o and_o now_o immediate_o before_o the_o ascension_n of_o christ_n we_o read_v of_o more_o than_o 500_o brethren_n at_o once_o which_o be_v witness_n of_o the_o resurrection_n of_o christ_n 1._o cor._n 15.6_o these_o 120_o have_v do_v injury_n unto_o they_o save_v that_o these_o general_a person_n the_o apostle_n call_v of_o god_n for_o the_o service_n of_o all_o church_n do_v for_o they_o by_o divine_a appointment_n appear_v in_o this_o synod_n iii_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o this_o election_n which_o be_v make_v with_o a_o threefold_a limitation_n 1._o unto_o one_o of_o those_o man_n which_o have_v company_v with_o the_o apostle_n all_o the_o time_n that_o the_o lord_n jesus_n go_v in_o and_o out_o among_o they_o begin_v from_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n even_o until_o that_o same_o day_n that_o he_o be_v take_v up_o from_o they_o act._n 1.21_o 22._o now_o these_o disciple_n that_o thus_o wait_v on_o christ_n such_o as_o barsabas_n and_o mathias_n be_v be_v no_o inhabitant_n of_o jerusalem_n what_o power_n have_v a_o particular_a church_n to_o determine_v and_o dispose_v of_o they_o that_o be_v no_o member_n of_o their_o particular_a society_n 2._o there_o be_v a_o restraint_n from_o absolute_a elect_n of_o any_o one_o of_o these_o they_o be_v only_o allow_v to_o present_v two_o and_o to_o offer_v they_o unto_o the_o choice_n of_o the_o lord_n vers_fw-la 23.24_o 3._o the_o way_n and_o mean_n of_o inquire_v the_o will_n of_o god_n herein_o be_v determine_v and_o restrain_v unto_o a_o lot_n whereby_o the_o judgement_n and_o definitive_a sentence_n of_o god_n be_v declare_v unto_o the_o synod_n that_o rest_v therein_o and_o by_o these_o extraordinary_a direction_n it_o please_v god_n to_o honour_v this_o first_o synod_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n it_o be_v here_o also_o to_o be_v observe_v that_o although_o some_o writer_n have_v speak_v of_o this_o election_n as_o make_v by_o a_o particular_a church_n yet_o we_o have_v sundry_a learned_a man_n consent_v with_o we_o in_o the_o exposition_n of_o this_o story_n who_o labour_v to_o show_v the_o profit_n and_o necessity_n of_o synod_n 3._o synod_n whitak_n de_fw-fr council_n qu._n 1._o c._n 3._o do_v argue_v from_o this_o place_n act._n 1._o and_o affirm_v that_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n the_o apostle_n and_o whole_a church_n do_v celebrate_v a_o synod_n for_o the_o choose_n of_o mathias_n into_o the_o place_n of_o judas_n the_o professor_n of_o leyden_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n 49._o purpose_n synop_n pur_fw-it theol._n disp_n 49._o allege_v this_o example_n act._n 1._o and_o call_v it_o the_o first_o synod_n at_o jerusalem_n ii_o the_o example_n of_o that_o renown_a synod_n which_o be_v record_v act._n 15._o be_v a_o sufficient_a warrant_n wherein_o the_o use_n and_o authority_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n be_v commend_v unto_o we_o and_o this_o not_o only_o for_o counsel_n and_o admonition_n but_o also_o for_o the_o judgement_n of_o cause_n and_o for_o the_o exercise_n of_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n as_o that_o which_o go_v before_o the_o synod_n namely_o the_o great_a dissension_n about_o a_o dangerous_a error_n with_o seek_v of_o redress_n by_o a_o solemn_a deputation_n of_o messenger_n from_o the_o church_n of_o antioch_n act._n 15.1_o 2._o do_v call_v for_o help_v in_o the_o most_o effectual_a manner_n so_o the_o thing_n do_v in_o the_o synod_n be_v a_o evidence_n of_o the_o authority_n which_o they_o use_v therein_o both_o by_o a_o definitive_a sentence_n which_o they_o pronounce_v concern_v that_o controversy_n which_o be_v bring_v unto_o they_o vers_n 28_o 29._o and_o by_o a_o authentic_a ambassage_n of_o choose_a man_n send_v from_o that_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n elder_n and_o brethren_n both_o to_o carry_v the_o epistle_n that_o be_v write_v and_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n to_o declare_v the_o same_o thing_n vers_fw-la 22_o 23_o 25_o 27._o that_o also_o which_o be_v note_v to_o have_v be_v do_v after_o the_o synod_n in_o the_o publication_n of_o the_o act_n thereof_o do_v also_o bear_v witness_n touch_v the_o authority_n of_o those_o act_n in_o that_o they_o be_v call_v the_o decree_n ordain_v of_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n etc._n etc._n act._n 16.4_o the_o fruit_n also_o which_o by_o the_o blessing_n of_o god_n follow_v hereupon_o in_o be_v a_o mean_n of_o great_a consolation_n and_o establishment_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o faith_n act._n 15.31_o &_o 16.5_o be_v to_o be_v consider_v as_o a_o argument_n whereby_o the_o h._n ghost_n do_v further_a commend_v unto_o we_o the_o authority_n of_o such_o synod_n in_o the_o right_a government_n of_o the_o church_n upon_o this_o example_n do_v general_o all_o judicious_a writer_n build_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n as_o upon_o a_o sure_a foundation_n &_o groundwork_n calvine_n say_v that_o 15.6_o that_o comment_fw-fr in_o act._n 15.6_o here_o be_v prescribe_v of_o god_n the_o form_n and_o order_n of_o gather_v synod_n etc._n etc._n beza_n upon_o this_o place_n 23._o place_n annot._n maj_o in_o act._n 15.12_o &_o v._o 23._o have_v show_v that_o here_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o forego_v consultation_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n which_o be_v relate_v unto_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o ratify_v in_o the_o common_a assembly_n thereof_o he_o affirm_v that_o this_o be_v the_o right_a form_n of_o a_o lawful_a and_o true_a apostolic_a synod_n etc._n etc._n and_o both_o these_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o such_o synod_n as_o exercise_v authority_n of_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n according_a to_o the_o practice_n of_o those_o church_n wherein_o they_o live_v of_o which_o more_o hereafter_o bullinger_n observe_v here_o as_o be_v 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that_o which_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n teach_v they_o ordain_v that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n and_o certain_a other_o of_o they_o shall_v go_v up_o to_o jerusalem_n to_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n about_o that_o question_n act._n 15.2_o and_o so_o by_o their_o common_a agreement_n &_o decree_n the_o controversy_n be_v end_v the_o truth_n of_o faith_n keep_v and_o peace_n maintain_v in_o the_o church_n after_o which_o example_n the_o etc._n the_o euseb_n hist_o eccl._n l._n 5._o c._n 14._o &_o 21._o &_o 22._o lib._n 7._o c._n 26._o &_o 28._o cypr._n epist_n 6._o &_o 14_o &_o 31._o &_o 53._o &_o 72._o &_o 75._o council_n ancyr_n gangr_n antioch_n laodic_n etc._n etc._n bishop_n that_o succeed_v they_o make_v the_o like_a assembly_n on_o the_o like_a occasion_n and_o by_o common_a conference_n take_v order_n for_o such_o matter_n both_o of_o doctrine_n and_o discipline_n
as_o concern_v in_o common_a the_o state_n of_o their_o church_n so_o do_v the_o apostle_n and_o apostolic_a man_n provide_v against_o schism_n and_o heresy_n their_o wisdom_n reach_v not_o unto_o the_o policy_n of_o one_o chief_a judge_n thus_o d._n rainolds_n do_v many_o way_n acknowledge_v the_o authority_n of_o synod_n he_o call_v that_o power_n which_o they_o have_v the_o chiefty_a of_o judgement_n he_o avouch_v that_o they_o have_v it_o by_o divine_a right_n that_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n have_v commit_v it_o unto_o they_o he_o plead_v from_o the_o forename_a warrant_n act._n 15._o he_o extend_v this_o power_n unto_o matter_n both_o of_o doctrine_n and_o discipline_n the_o testimony_n which_o in_o his_o margin_n he_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a history_n to_o show_v that_o the_o like_a assembly_n be_v keep_v in_o succeed_a time_n be_v such_o as_o speak_v of_o their_o excommunicate_v wicked_a heretic_n viz._n euseb_n hist_o eccl._n l._n 5._o c._n 14._o etc._n etc._n l._n 7._o c._n 26_o 28._o etc._n etc._n whereby_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o allow_v unto_o synod_n not_o only_a counsel_n or_o admonition_n but_o a_o power_n of_o exercise_v ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n &_o censure_n those_o counsel_n mention_v and_o point_a at_o by_o he_o for_o instance_n of_o this_o chiefty_a of_o judgement_n be_v such_o as_o do_v not_o only_o admonish_v but_o also_o determine_v and_o judge_v of_o cause_n the_o synod_n of_o etc._n of_o barthol_n carranza_n summa_fw-la council_n p._n â—3_n etc._n etc._n ancyra_n in_o galatia_n make_v most_o severe_a ecclesiastical_a law_n for_o the_o exclude_v of_o such_o as_o do_v fall_v in_o time_n of_o persecution_n the_o synod_n of_o 463_o of_o magdeb._n cent._n 4._o c._n 3._o col_fw-fr 111._o etc._n etc._n 6._o col_fw-fr 463_o gangris_n in_o paphlagonia_n exercise_v ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o depose_v eustathius_n bishop_n of_o sebastia_n for_o his_o error_n and_o the_o like_a may_v be_v note_v for_o the_o rest_n whatsoever_o particular_a error_n be_v in_o any_o of_o these_o yet_o the_o authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n itself_o be_v approve_v of_o he_o as_o proceed_n from_o the_o wisdom_n of_o god_n declare_v in_o this_o place_n act._n 15._o d._n whitaker_n in_o his_o disputation_n against_o bellarmine_n touch_v counsel_n lay_v down_o this_o text_n act._n 15.6_o for_o a_o ground_n of_o that_o which_o he_o take_v occasion_n to_o entreat_v of_o and_o etc._n and_o de_fw-fr council_n qu._n 1._o c._n 1._o p_o 1_o 3_o 4_o etc._n etc._n often_o repeat_v that_o text_n apply_v it_o to_o each_o of_o the_o question_n which_o he_o discuss_v and_o whereas_o our_o opposite_n do_v grant_v a_o lawful_a use_n of_o synod_n for_o counsel_n but_o not_o to_o judge_v nor_o to_o give_v judicial_a sentence_n for_o the_o decide_n of_o cause_n d._n whitak_n describe_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n betwixt_o we_o and_o the_o papist_n touch_v the_o person_n that_o be_v to_o be_v call_v to_o a_o synod_n show_v that_o 79._o that_o ibid._n qu._n 3._o c._n 1._o p._n 79._o the_o papist_n will_v have_v only_o the_o bishop_n or_o great_a prelate_n to_o be_v allow_v for_o judge_n and_o the_o presbyter_n or_o inferior_a clergy_n to_o be_v only_a inquisitor_n disputer_n or_o consulter_n to_o give_v counsel_n but_o not_o to_o have_v suffrage_n in_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n this_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o the_o 15._o the_o bellar._n tom._n 2._o contr._n 1._o de_fw-fr council_n l._n 1._o c._n 15._o romish_a church_n now_o d._n whit._n in_o the_o refutation_n of_o the_o papist_n do_v as_o well_o refute_v the_o brownist_n and_o other_o opposite_n while_o he_o prove_v 3._o prove_v de_fw-fr council_n qu._n 3._o c._n 3._o that_o all_o who_o have_v a_o lawful_a deputation_n and_o calling_n be_v to_o be_v allow_v for_o judge_n and_o not_o for_o counsellor_n only_o and_o that_o their_o suffrage_n be_v not_o only_o for_o consultation_n but_o for_o decision_n as_o be_v hereafter_o show_v more_o at_o large_a observe_v only_o at_o this_o time_n that_o the_o first_o argument_n in_o that_o dispute_n be_v take_v from_o this_o very_a place_n act._n 15._o g._n bucerus_n plead_v from_o this_o same_o ground_n of_o scripture_n and_o write_v 65._o write_v dissert_n de_fw-fr gub._n ecc._n p._n 65._o that_o not_o only_o several_a particular_a church_n have_v their_o proper_a distinct_a presbytery_n but_o that_o the_o history_n of_o the_o apostle_n witness_v that_o when_o great_a controversy_n do_v arise_v which_o can_v not_o be_v end_v in_o lesser_a college_n then_o more_o church_n under_o the_o new_a testament_n do_v run_v unto_o a_o general_n synod_n act._n 15._o and_o what_o power_n they_o be_v wont_a to_o exercise_v therein_o he_o show_v by_o a_o distinction_n of_o person_n come_v to_o the_o synod_n as_o d._n whit._n refute_v the_o popish_a distinction_n of_o great_a and_o lesser_a clergy_n show_v that_o there_o be_v a_o right_a and_o power_n of_o suffrage_n &_o judgement_n in_o the_o synod_n so_o bucerus_n etc._n bucerus_n ibid._n p._n 107._o 108._o etc._n etc._n confirm_v the_o distinction_n of_o junius_n viz._n that_o some_o person_n come_v to_o the_o synod_n as_o delegate_n send_v from_o the_o church_n which_o therefore_o do_v give_v definitive_a sentence_n of_o matter_n propound_v that_o other_o come_v without_o such_o deputation_n and_o commission_n may_v give_v their_o advice_n and_o counsel_v but_o without_o suffrage_n do_v hereby_o acknowledge_v a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o synod_n by_o those_o that_o be_v peculiar_o call_v to_o be_v judge_n therein_o zepperus_n etc._n zepperus_n polit._n eccl._n l._n 3._o c._n 8._o de_fw-fr syn._n p._n 713._o 714._o 715._o etc._n etc._n allege_v act._n 15._o for_o a_o pattern_n of_o synod_n declare_v that_o after_o the_o apostle_n the_o primitive_a church_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v most_o studious_a of_o this_o consociation_n or_o combination_n in_o synod_n do_v not_o only_o communicate_v by_o letter_n but_o meet_v together_o in_o nationall_n or_o general_n counsel_n do_v hear_v the_o cause_n of_o heretic_n &_o other_o that_o appear_v before_o they_o &_o so_o convince_v condemn_a and_o excommunicate_v they_o &_o send_v their_o decree_n unto_o all_o church_n with_o the_o name_n &_o heresy_n of_o those_o that_o be_v excommunicate_a etc._n etc._n thus_o do_v he_o acknowledge_v the_o right_n of_o synod_n not_o only_o for_o counsel_n &_o admonition_n but_o also_o for_o jurisdiction_n in_o censure_v piscator_fw-la 361-364_a piscator_fw-la thes_n theolog._n vol._n 1._o loc._n 23._o p._n 361-364_a writing_n of_o counsel_n and_o synod_n and_o of_o the_o seven_o question_n concern_v they_o do_v seven_o time_n allege_v this_o place_n act._n 15._o for_o a_o ground_n of_o direction_n in_o each_o of_o they_o and_o for_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n he_o plain_o express_v his_o meaning_n when_o speak_v of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n in_o general_a he_o say_v 63._o say_v thes_n 62_o 63._o it_o consist_v chief_o in_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n and_o again_o distinguish_v this_o jurisdiction_n into_o two_o part_n he_o say_v that_o the_o one_o part_n consist_v in_o the_o power_n of_o make_v law_n &_o potissimum_fw-la spectatur_fw-la in_o conciliis_fw-la that_o be_v it_o be_v chief_o see_v in_o synod_n bucanus_n 27._o bucanus_n loc._n con_n loc._n 43._o qu._n 21_o 22_o 25_o 27._o write_v much_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n and_o asscribe_v unto_o synod_n authority_n of_o make_v law_n of_o decide_v controversy_n and_o this_o from_o the_o example_n of_o that_o synod_n act._n 15._o often_o mention_v by_o he_o mr_n fenner_n 278-281_a fenner_n s._n theol._n l._n 7._o c._n 7._o p._n 278-281_a brief_o and_o methodical_o describe_v the_o nature_n of_o synod_n the_o kind_n the_o use_n &_o authority_n of_o they_o do_v derive_v their_o authority_n from_o this_o ground_n act._n 15._o which_o even_o in_o that_o short_a description_n be_v more_o than_o ten_o time_n allege_v by_o he_o many_o other_o such_o testimony_n may_v be_v produce_v to_o show_v the_o consent_n of_o judicious_a and_o learned_a divine_n in_o this_o point_n of_o which_o somewhat_o more_o be_v to_o be_v say_v when_o i_o come_v to_o give_v answer_n touch_v that_o multitude_n of_o author_n which_o mr_n can_v allege_v against_o i_o let_v we_o now_o hear_v what_o my_o opposite_n say_v concern_v this_o example_n mr_n dau._n his_o exception_n touch_v act._n 15._o answer_v i._o dav_n 255._o dav_n apol_n reply_n p._n 254._o 255._o this_o text_n act._n 15._o be_v allege_v by_o bellarmine_n to_o prove_v the_o bind_a force_n of_o the_o decree_n of_o council_n and_o by_o the_o answerer_n to_o show_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o classis_fw-la whereunto_o junius_n give_v 2_o answer_n also_o 1._o non_fw-la sequitur_fw-la ex_fw-la particulari_fw-la si_fw-la custodienda_fw-la fuerint_fw-la decreta_fw-la concilii_fw-la apostolici_fw-la ergo_fw-la &_o omnium_fw-la seruari_fw-la oportere_fw-la it_o
do_v not_o follow_v from_o a_o particular_a that_o because_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o apostolical_a council_n be_v to_o be_v observe_v therefore_o the_o decree_n of_o all_o council_n must_v be_v so_o keep_v 16._o contr._n 3._o li._n 4._o cap._n 16._o and_o whereas_o bellarmine_n affirm_v that_o the_o question_n there_o be_v not_o define_v by_o scripture_n but_o by_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o apostle_n junius_n deny_v that_o any_o thing_n be_v ordain_v in_o that_o council_n but_o from_o the_o scripture_n as_o he_o have_v before_o demonstrate_v and_o thereunto_o refer_v the_o reader_n answ._n i._n it_o may_v be_v observe_v here_o how_o untrue_a it_o be_v which_o mr_n dau._n pretend_v in_o excuse_n of_o his_o large_a writing_n say_v reader_n say_v pref._n to_o the_o reader_n for_o the_o help_n of_o the_o reader_n in_o compare_v the_o reply_n with_o the_o answer_n i_o have_v insert_v his_o own_o word_n every_o where_n this_o have_v he_o not_o do_v here_o nor_o in_o many_o other_o place_n i_o 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just_a cause_n so_o to_o answer_v bellarmine_n that_o maintain_v a_o unlawful_a and_o absolute_a authority_n of_o synod_n and_o exact_v obedience_n of_o necessity_n to_o all_o their_o decree_n be_v not_o this_o to_o abuse_v both_o i_o and_o his_o reader_n and_o to_o blear_v their_o eye_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o right_o discern_v the_o state_n of_o the_o question_n iii_o that_o the_o reader_n may_v better_o conceive_v in_o what_o manner_n a_o authority_n and_o power_n be_v asscribe_v to_o class_n and_o synod_n let_v the_o authority_n of_o particular_a church_n be_v consider_v as_o a_o example_n and_o model_n of_o that_o authority_n which_o be_v in_o synod_n my_o opposite_n themselves_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v in_o particular_a congregation_n a_o authority_n and_o power_n to_o judge_v and_o censure_v offender_n and_o yet_o they_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o they_o may_v err_v in_o their_o judgement_n that_o they_o want_v such_o infallible_a direction_n as_o the_o apostle_n 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by_o that_o right_n which_o he_o asscribe_v unto_o they_o for_o the_o decision_n of_o cause_n and_o not_o for_o counsel_v only_o as_o be_v show_v 48._o show_v pag._n 47._o 48._o before_o and_o this_o may_v further_o be_v see_v by_o that_o blame_n which_o be_v impute_v unto_o he_o for_o scottize_v and_o genevate_n declare_v 5._o declare_v chap._n 7._o sect_n 5._o hereafter_o have_v he_o be_v of_o this_o new_a opinion_n he_o can_v not_o have_v defend_v the_o cause_n of_o reformation_n so_o as_o he_o do_v but_o shall_v have_v open_v the_o mouth_n of_o his_o adversary_n against_o he_o otherwise_o then_o he_o have_v do_v sect_n ii_o his_o allegation_n of_o mr_n fenner_n examine_v for_o mr_n fenner_n in_o the_o allegation_n of_o his_o testimony_n mr_n dau._n have_v make_v himself_o guilty_a of_o a_o threefold_a unfaithfulnes_n 1._o in_o the_o omission_n of_o such_o thing_n as_o snow_v his_o mind_n full_o touch_v synod_n 2._o in_o the_o mistranslation_n of_o his_o word_n 3._o in_o the_o misinterpretation_n and_o false_a collection_n that_o he_o make_v from_o they_o i._o for_o his_o omission_n i._o he_o omit_v that_o definition_n of_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n set_v down_o in_o the_o 241._o the_o s._n theol_n l._n 7._o c._n 1._o p._n 241._o begin_n of_o that_o tractate_n viz._n that_o it_o be_v a_o divine_a polity_n so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v institute_v of_o christ_n for_o the_o government_n of_o particular_a church_n joint_o and_o several_o this_o definition_n be_v admit_v overthrow_v that_o single_a uncompounded_a policy_n maintain_v by_o mr_n jacob_n as_o also_o the_o assertion_n of_o mr_n dau._n for_o jurisdiction_n limit_v to_o particular_a church_n because_o herein_o he_o allow_v a_o compound_a policy_n not_o only_o for_o counsel_n but_o for_o the_o government_n of_o church_n as_o well_o joint_o as_o several_o herein_o ecclesiastical_a policy_n and_o jurisdiction_n be_v extend_v further_o than_o the_o limit_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n even_o unto_o a_o 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divine_a beg_v &_o instit_fw-la of_o chr._n vis_fw-la church_n a_o 1._o a_o 2._o a_o 4._o c_o 8._o etc._n etc._n teach_v that_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n and_o their_o government_n do_v differ_v one_o from_o the_o other_o in_o the_o very_a kind_n nature_n and_o form_n by_o a_o specifical_a and_o essential_a difference_n etc._n etc._n then_o can_v not_o both_o have_v have_v one_o and_o the_o same_o definition_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o mr_n f._n give_v it_o unto_o they_o comprehend_v also_o under_o it_o such_o assembly_n as_o stand_v under_o a_o compound_n policy_n and_o be_v subject_a to_o a_o ecclesiastical_a judicatorie_a out_o of_o themselves_o iii_o he_o omit_v that_o which_o mr_n fenner_n write_v touch_v the_o election_n of_o a_o minister_n where_o the_o controversy_n of_o the_o church_n upon_o the_o people_n object_v against_o the_o
in_o confound_a law_n and_o order_n by_o translate_n the_o word_n leges_fw-la order_n when_o he_o shall_v have_v translate_v it_o law_n according_a to_o the_o right_n and_o proper_a signification_n thereof_o if_o he_o have_v dislike_v mr_n f._n for_o use_v the_o word_n leges_fw-la or_o law_n and_o will_v correct_v it_o by_o put_v in_o the_o word_n order_n this_o be_v more_o than_o a_o exact_a and_o faithful_a translator_n may_v do_v he_o shall_v rather_o have_v translate_v the_o word_n true_o according_a to_o the_o right_a signification_n and_o then_o have_v give_v warning_n to_o the_o reader_n touch_v the_o fault_n of_o mr_n fenner_n in_o the_o ill_a confound_v of_o law_n and_o order_n and_o put_v one_o for_o the_o other_o after_o these_o unfaithful_a omission_n and_o mistranslation_n mr_n dau._n have_v not_o be_v afraid_a to_o say_v confident_o of_o himself_o thus_o have_v i_o faithful_o translate_v the_o word_n of_o this_o eminent_a light_n in_o his_o time_n mr_n dudley_n fenner_n who_o be_v join_v with_o mr_n cartwright_n etc._n etc._n to_o his_o commendation_n of_o he_o i_o do_v willing_o assent_v he_o be_v indeed_o a_o eminent_a light_n and_o why_o then_o have_v mr_n dau._n go_v about_o to_o obscure_v his_o light_n by_o deprave_v his_o testimony_n and_o labour_v to_o put_v this_o bright-burning_a candle_n under_o a_o bushel_n that_o man_n shall_v not_o see_v his_o light_n whether_o he_o make_v strong_o for_o he_o or_o against_o i_o let_v other_o judge_n iii_o moreover_o after_o these_o omission_n and_o mistranslation_n come_v we_o to_o consider_v his_o miscollection_n from_o he_o which_o without_o any_o just_a deduction_n or_o inference_n upon_o the_o lame_a and_o imperfect_a recital_n of_o his_o word_n he_o thus_o propound_v ibiden_v propound_v ibiden_v the_o reader_n may_v see_v how_o he_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o particular_a church_n etc._n etc._n how_o untrue_a this_o be_v it_o may_v appear_v i._o by_o mr_n f._n his_o allege_v those_o 276._o those_o s._n theo._n l._n 7._o p._n 276._o scripture_n deut._n 17.9_o with_o 2._o chron._n 19.8_o 11._o matt._n 18.18_o 1._o tim._n 4.14_o to_o show_v what_o authority_n there_o be_v in_o a_o classis_fw-la or_o synod_n comprehend_v by_o he_o under_o that_o general_a definition_n of_o a_o presbytery_n as_o well_o as_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n thereby_o he_o confess_v that_o there_o be_v a_o power_n of_o judgement_n censure_n and_o jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n because_o those_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n speak_v of_o such_o jurisdiction_n and_o judgement_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v of_o imposition_n of_o hand_n or_o ordination_n etc._n etc._n ii_o though_o mr_n f._n speak_v of_o excommunication_n and_o absolution_n from_o it_o say_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o assembly_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n which_o last_o word_n mr_n d._n for_o special_a observation_n cause_v to_o be_v print_v in_o great_a capital_a letter_n yet_o this_o do_v not_o prove_v that_o he_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o the_o particular_a church_n see_v in_o the_o same_o 277_o same_o pa._n 277_o place_n speak_v of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n administer_v by_o the_o synod_n or_o presbytery_n in_o decide_v of_o doubt_n he_o say_v also_o etsi_fw-la authoritas_fw-la communis_fw-la sit_fw-la ministris_fw-la tamen_fw-la &_o sententiam_fw-la dicendi_fw-la &_o eam_fw-la exponendi_fw-la maxima_fw-la facienda_fw-la potestas_fw-la that_o be_v though_o the_o authority_n be_v common_a yet_o the_o great_a power_n of_o give_v sentence_n and_o declare_v it_o be_v to_o be_v yield_v unto_o the_o minister_n therefore_o do_v he_o not_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n iii_o mr_n f._n a_o little_a after_o again_o speak_v of_o ecclesiastical_a judgement_n and_o censure_n and_o still_o of_o administer_a they_o by_o the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n or_o presbytery_n which_o contain_v the_o synod_n as_o well_o as_o a_o particular_a eldership_n he_o say_v of_o they_o ibiden_v they_o ibiden_v in_o quibus_fw-la per_fw-la omnes_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la summa_fw-la ecclesiastica_fw-la potestas_fw-la presbyterio_n demandata_fw-la est_fw-la that_o be_v in_o which_o throughout_o all_o church_n the_o high_a or_o chief_a ecclesiastical_a authority_n be_v commit_v to_o the_o presbytery_n and_o hereby_o also_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o do_v not_o leave_v the_o whole_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n in_o a_o particular_a church_n but_o these_o passage_n mr_n d._n omit_v when_o he_o translate_v other_o part_n of_o the_o same_o period_n he_o think_v it_o not_o to_o be_v for_o his_o advantage_n to_o have_v his_o reader_n take_v knowledge_n of_o they_o iv_o whereas_o mr_n f._n require_v that_o in_o matter_n of_o great_a moment_n after_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o fore-consultation_n of_o the_o presbytery_n comprehend_v both_o classis_fw-la and_o particular_a eldership_n their_o counsel_n be_v tell_v unto_o the_o church_n that_o thing_n ordinary_o be_v thus_o perform_v in_o these_o reform_a church_n viz._n after_o that_o in_o the_o classical_a assembly_n of_o minister_n and_o elder_n it_o have_v be_v find_v just_a and_o requisite_a that_o any_o person_n shall_v be_v excommunicate_v or_o any_o minister_n call_v these_o censure_n and_o election_n be_v then_o first_o solemn_o propound_v unto_o the_o particular_a church_n who_o these_o thing_n special_o concern_v and_o so_o accomplish_v with_o their_o consent_n and_o not_o otherwise_o if_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o church_n dissent_n and_o allow_v not_o the_o excommunication_n or_o election_n then_o for_o the_o avoid_n of_o strife_n the_o matter_n be_v again_o refer_v ad_fw-la majorem_fw-la senatum_fw-la unto_o a_o great_a ecclesiastical_a senate_n classis_fw-la or_o synod_n to_o judge_v thereof_o and_o to_o compose_v the_o dissension_n v._o mr_n f._n in_o the_o same_o chapter_n 279._o chapter_n pag._n 278_o 279._o show_v from_o the_o scripture_n that_o in_o these_o presbyterial_a assembly_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v a_o mutual_a office_n perform_v in_o the_o same_o in_o special_a manner_n towards_o one_o another_o not_o only_o for_o counsel_n but_o also_o for_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o as_o be_v member_n of_o those_o assembly_n and_o this_o be_v also_o agreeable_a to_o the_o order_n prescribe_v both_o in_o the_o 43._o the_o kercken-ordeninge_a art_n 43._o nationall_n synod_n at_o dort_n and_o in_o divers_a other_o for_o the_o censure_n of_o such_o fault_n as_o be_v commit_v in_o those_o meeting_n or_o by_o contempt_n of_o the_o admonition_n of_o inferior_a assembly_n hereby_o also_o it_o appear_v that_o he_o allow_v a_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n in_o synod_n and_o class_n and_o do_v not_o limit_v all_o jurisdiction_n unto_o a_o particular_a church_n vi_o after_o mr_n f._n have_v speak_v in_o general_a both_o of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o one_o and_o of_o many_o church_n joint_o together_o than_o he_o come_v to_o speak_v of_o each_o of_o they_o several_o and_o there_o again_o speak_v of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o many_o church_n that_o be_v of_o class_n and_o synod_n he_o say_v 280._o say_v s._n theol._n l._n 7._o p._n 280._o hic_fw-la autem_fw-la leges_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la condendae_fw-la sunt_fw-la here_o be_v ecclesiastical_a law_n to_o be_v make_v this_o be_v a_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n more_o than_o of_o admonition_n or_o counsel_n this_o mr_n d._n pass_v over_o also_o it_o be_v no_o policy_n for_o he_o to_o draw_v collection_n from_o such_o testimony_n vii_o that_o one_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n which_o mr_n f._n oft_o 281._o oft_o ibid._n p._n 280_o 281._o allege_v 2._o cor._n 8.19_o 23._o not_o to_o speak_v of_o other_o allege_v with_o it_o be_v a_o evidence_n of_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n it_o be_v there_o specify_v that_o the_o brother_n who_o be_v choose_v to_o be_v a_o messenger_n of_o the_o church_n be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d elect_v by_o saffrage_n now_o this_o election_n be_v a_o act_n of_o authority_n exercise_v by_o sundry_a church_n in_o one_o business_n touch_v one_o person_n and_o hence_o it_o appear_v that_o a_o combination_n of_o church_n may_v exercise_v jurisdiction_n together_o touch_v such_o as_o be_v no_o peculiar_a member_n of_o one_o particular_a church_n and_o if_o such_o election_n may_v be_v make_v by_o many_o church_n then_o may_v censure_n be_v decree_v by_o many_o church_n together_o as_o occasion_n require_v last_o mr_n f._n have_v speak_v of_o the_o first_o part_n of_o ecclesiastical_a polity_n touch_v such_o as_o administer_v the_o same_o both_o by_o a_o simple_a and_o compound_a office_n in_o the_o presbytery_n both_o of_o one_o or_o more_o church_n in_o synod_n or_o general_n council_n he_o come_v at_o last_o to_o speak_v of_o the_o duty_n of_o the_o saint_n other_o member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v not_o promote_v unto_o any_o ecclesiastical_a office_n and_o 282._o and_o
and_o approbation_n he_o say_v it_o follow_v hence_o that_o no_o one_o church_n be_v superior_a unto_o other_o but_o all_o be_v equal_a among_o themselves_o this_o he_o declare_v by_o instance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o though_o in_o ancient_a time_n it_o be_v of_o great_a estimation_n and_o dignity_n yet_o have_v it_o no_o special_a authority_n and_o jurisdiction_n above_o other_o church_n as_o he_o show_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o d._n rain_n whitak_n and_o junius_n but_o he_o do_v not_o collect_v thence_o that_o many_o church_n concur_v together_o in_o synod_n do_v want_v authority_n to_o judge_v and_o to_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n in_o the_o cause_v bring_v unto_o they_o yea_o the_o contrary_n be_v manifest_a for_o whereas_o bellarmine_n pervert_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o magdeburgenses_n who_o have_v say_v that_o the_o unity_n of_o faith_n may_v be_v preserve_v by_o the_o consociation_n of_o church_n which_o mutual_o be_v to_o help_v one_o another_o 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nor_o exercise_v their_o power_n but_o with_o mutual_a communication_n one_o ask_v the_o counsel_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o other_o in_o that_o common_a presbytery_n second_o it_o be_v one_o thing_n for_o church_n to_o subject_n themselves_o to_o a_o bishop_n and_o consistory_n wherein_o they_o shall_v have_v no_o power_n of_o suffrage_n another_o thing_n to_o communicate_v with_o such_o a_o presbytery_n wherein_o themselves_o be_v member_n and_o judge_n with_o other_o after_o that_o again_o he_o add_v geneva_n make_v this_o consociation_n not_o as_o if_o the_o prime_a church_n be_v imperfect_a and_o to_o make_v one_o church_n by_o this_o union_n but_o because_o though_o they_o be_v entire_a church_n and_o have_v the_o power_n of_o church_n yet_o they_o need_v this_o support_n in_o exercise_v of_o it_o and_o that_o by_o this_o mean_v the_o minister_n and_o senior_n of_o it_o may_v have_v communion_n thus_o he_o note_v not_o only_o the_o counsel_n but_o the_o consent_n of_o other_o 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of_o presbyter_n that_o be_v of_o minister_n and_o elder_n and_o of_o their_o government_n he_o say_v 67._o say_v ibid._n p._n 67._o there_o be_v nothing_o find_v belong_v to_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n in_o foro_fw-la externo_fw-la but_o the_o scripture_n do_v asscribe_v it_o to_o they_o power_n of_o suffrage_n in_o council_n act._n 15._o power_n of_o excommunication_n which_o be_v manifest_a to_o have_v be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n etc._n etc._n while_o he_o allege_v act._n 15._o for_o a_o evidence_n of_o the_o presbyter_n power_n in_o synod_n or_o counsel_n he_o do_v hereby_o acknowledge_v that_o in_o synod_n there_o be_v a_o lawful_a exercise_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o that_o therefore_o they_o be_v not_o only_o for_o counsel_n and_o advise_v to_o like_o purpose_n he_o say_v afterward_o again_o 82._o again_o p._n 82._o the_o apostle_n do_v not_o offer_v alone_o to_o determine_v the_o question_n act._n 15._o but_o have_v 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the_o particular_a testimony_n of_o nonconformist_n and_o how_o they_o have_v be_v pervert_v by_o mr_n can_n in_o apply_v they_o against_o the_o authority_n of_o synod_n it_o shall_v not_o be_v amiss_o to_o add_v yet_o further_o a_o threefold_a testimony_n to_o manifest_v this_o point_n more_o clear_o and_o full_o and_o so_o to_o conclude_v this_o section_n namely_o by_o the_o petition_n of_o nonconformist_n to_o qu._n elizabeth_n and_o to_o the_o parliament_n the_o opposition_n of_o the_o prelate_n to_o the_o nonconformist_n &_o the_o scorn_n of_o the_o brownist_n against_o nonconformist_n first_o when_o as_o the_o minister_n have_v make_v request_n unto_o q._n elizabeth_n for_o reformation_n of_o thing_n amiss_o show_v how_o controversy_n may_v be_v compound_v they_o say_v 3._o say_v petit._n to_o the_o q._n most_o excellent_a maj._n p._n 3._o that_o a_o free_a nationall_n or_o provincial_n council_n at_o home_n be_v much_o to_o be_v wish_v etc._n etc._n and_o in_o a_o treatise_n annex_v thereunto_o entitle_v opinion_n of_o such_o as_o sue_v for_o reformation_n among_o other_o thing_n which_o they_o hold_v &_o sue_v for_o this_o be_v one_o 57_o one_o ibid._n §_o 19_o p_o 57_o that_o if_o any_o dissension_n grow_v or_o cause_v of_o grievance_n be_v give_v in_o any_o particular_a church_n by_o the_o minister_n or_o officer_n the_o party_n grieve_v may_v appeal_v to_o a_o particular_a synod_n from_o the_o particular_a synod_n to_o a_o provincial_n synod_n from_o a_o provincial_n synod_n to_o a_o nationall_n synod_n which_o synod_n shall_v be_v appoint_v at_o set_a time_n the_o more_o particular_a the_o synod_n be_v the_o more_o often_o for_o the_o time_n to_o be_v moderate_v by_o some_o fit_a man_n changeable_o by_o election_n that_o may_v write_v speak_v and_o pray_v in_o the_o behalf_n and_o at_o the_o direction_n of_o the_o rest_n etc._n etc._n and_o a_o little_a after_o again_o 21._o again_o §_o 21._o they_o do_v profess_v and_o protest_v that_o they_o can_v and_o will_v avow_v this_o reformation_n which_o they_o desire_v to_o be_v most_o agreeable_a to_o the_o scripture_n to_o have_v the_o testimony_n of_o the_o best_a &_o most_o learned_a man_n that_o have_v be_v since_o the_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n if_o mr_n ca._n will_v not_o wink_v with_o his_o eye_n he_o may_v here_o see_v what_o reformation_n have_v be_v seek_v and_o hold_v needful_a and_o that_o jure_fw-la divino_fw-la in_o like_a manner_n mr_n travers_n testify_v of_o these_o conference_n or_o class_n &_o synod_n 1617._o synod_n eccles_n disc_n p._n 98._o with_o p_o 103._o 104._o reprin_n 1617._o that_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o profitable_a than_o these_o assembly_n be_v so_o use_v as_o they_o be_v appoint_v to_o be_v use_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o use_v by_o other_o pure_a and_o better_a reform_a church_n etc._n etc._n and_o conclude_v that_o his_o treatise_n of_o discipline_n with_o a_o humble_a supplication_n unto_o qu._n elizabeth_n of_o happy_a memory_n for_o the_o establish_n of_o such_o a_o discipline_n in_o her_o dominion_n to_o like_o purpose_n do_v they_o write_v which_o be_v the_o author_n of_o the_o admonition_n to_o the_o parliament_n hold_v in_o the_o 13._o year_n of_o q._n eliz._n begin_o anno_fw-la 1570_o and_o end_v 1571._o they_o 1617._o they_o admon_n to_o parl._n p._n 51_o 52._o ed._n 1617._o describe_v the_o platform_n of_o 2_o church_n reform_v and_o present_v their_o desire_n to_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o parliament_n do_v therein_o commend_v the_o use_n of_o conference_n and_o of_o synod_n provincial_n nationall_n and_o general_n for_o determine_v the_o weighty_a cause_n which_o can_v not_o be_v end_v in_o particular_a church_n and_o they_o require_v that_o man_n shall_v stand_v unto_o these_o determination_n unless_o they_o can_v be_v show_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o scripture_n second_o such_o as_o have_v be_v special_a maintainer_n of_o the_o prelacy_n do_v confess_v and_o testify_v that_o the_o minister_n which_o seek_v for_o reformation_n do_v therein_o seek_v for_o government_n of_o the_o church_n by_o class_n and_o synod_n and_o that_o not_o for_o counsel_v only_o but_o to_o judge_v the_o cause_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o to_o censure_v such_o person_n as_o be_v find_v guilty_a it_o be_v by_o one_o of_o they_o manifest_v in_o a_o special_a 2-15_a special_a danger_n positio_fw-la for_o presbyteri_fw-la governm_fw-la l._n 3._o c._n 2-15_a record_n that_o when_o divers_a minister_n not_o conform_v be_v cast_v into_o prison_n and_o some_o of_o they_o bring_v into_o the_o star-chamber_n and_o examine_v upon_o their_o oath_n they_o declare_v the_o earnest_a endeavour_n of_o many_o minister_n for_o the_o obtain_n of_o class_n and_o there_o among_o such_o as_o give_v pregnant_a testimony_n in_o allowance_n of_o classical_a government_n be_v nominate_v these_o follow_v mr_n chark_n mr_n travers_n mr_n gardiner_n mr_n barber_n mr_n chester_n mr_n crook_n mr_n egerton_n mr_n field_n mr_n wilcox_n mr_n standen_n mr_n jackson_n mr_n bonham_n mr_n crane_n mr_n sâ—inctloe_n mr_n edward_n mr_n cholmeley_n mr_n wright_n mr_n gifford_n mr_n gelibrand_n mr_n west_n mr_n browne_n mr_n knewstubs_n mr_n wight_n mr_n walker_n mr_n cartwright_n mr_n fen_n mr_n oxenbridge_n mr_n perkins_n mr_n allen_n mr_n dike_n mr_n culverwell_n etc._n etc._n and_o about_o northamptonshire_n alone_o be_v 77_o be_v ib._n p._n 77_o record_v more_o than_o 20_o of_o this_o mind_n about_o northampton_n mr_n snape_n mr_n penrie_n mr_n sibthorp_n mr_n edward_n mr_n litlâ—ton_n mr_n bradshaw_n mr_n lark_n mr_n fleshware_fw-mi mr_n spicer_n etc._n etc._n about_o daventrie_n mr_n barbon_n mr_n rogers_n mr_n king_n mr_n smart_n mr_n sharp_a mr_n promdlos_n mr_n elliston_n etc._n etc._n about_o kettr_n mr_n stone_n mr_n williamson_n mr_n fawsbrook_n mr_n patinson_n mr_n massey_n etc._n etc._n the_o law_n rule_n and_o order_n both_o in_o class_n and_o in_o synod_n describe_v in_o
that_o etc._n that_o ibid._n p._n 109_o 110_o etc._n etc._n book_n and_o approve_v by_o these_o minister_n be_v most_o of_o they_o and_o general_o the_o very_a same_o that_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o class_n and_o synod_n of_o the_o reform_a church_n in_o these_o unite_a province_n of_o the_o netherlands_o where_o we_o live_v and_o where_o our_o english_a church_n be_v combine_v with_o they_o in_o the_o same_o ecclesiastical_a government_n the_o agreement_n and_o consent_n of_o these_o man_n in_o their_o desire_n of_o class_n and_o synod_n according_a to_o the_o order_n and_o practice_v observe_v also_o in_o scotland_n &_o at_o geneva_n be_v therefore_o by_o the_o recorder_n thereof_o note_v &_o style_v over_o the_o head_n of_o many_o page_n in_o that_o book_n english_a genevate_a for_o reformation_n and_o again_o english_a scottize_v for_o discipline_n by_o practice_n even_o these_o reproach_n do_v just_o serve_v for_o the_o reproof_n of_o mr_n can_n who_o deny_v that_o which_o other_o opposite_n do_v willing_o acknowledge_v three_o the_o very_a brownist_n themselves_o be_v wont_a of_o old_a to_o acknowledge_v that_o the_o not-conforming_a minister_n in_o england_n do_v stand_v for_o class_n and_o synod_n though_o with_o great_a scorn_n &_o reproach_n they_o speak_v of_o synod_n yet_o that_o very_a scorn_n and_o reproach_n be_v a_o witness_n against_o mr_n can._n and_o w._n b._n to_o show_v the_o consent_n of_o former_a time_n with_o i_o hen._n barow_n speak_v of_o the_o censure_n of_o evil_a and_o condemn_v both_o conformist_n and_o nonconformist_n together_o he_o say_v 165._o say_v h._n bar._n discov_n of_o false_a chur._n p._n 165._o yea_o all_o the_o priest_n of_o the_o land_n both_o pontifical_a and_o reformist_n agree_v in_o this_o point_n &_o conclude_v that_o the_o lay_v people_n as_o they_o term_v they_o ought_v not_o to_o intermeddle_v either_o with_o the_o depose_n their_o minister_n or_o reproof_n of_o his_o doctrine_n the_o one_o sort_n say_v he_o send_v they_o to_o their_o lord_n these_o bishop_n the_o other_o refer_v they_o over_o for_o these_o and_o many_o other_o case_n under_o hand_n to_o a_o provincial_n or_o classical_a synod_n or_o permanent_a council_n of_o priest_n etc._n etc._n among_o who_o all_o these_o affair_n must_v be_v debate_v and_o after_o they_o be_v agree_v upon_o the_o point_n than_o their_o decree_n to_o be_v bring_v forth_o solemn_o publish_v and_o pronounce_v to_o the_o people_n who_o must_v attend_v upon_o wait_v and_o receive_v these_o oracle_n as_o most_o holy_a and_o canonical_a they_o have_v no_o remedy_n if_o they_o also_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o truth_n but_o to_o appeal_v to_o a_o council_n etc._n etc._n and_o this_o he_o call_v a_o devilish_a forgery_n etc._n etc._n after_o that_o to_o like_a purpose_n he_o say_v 169._o say_v ibid._n p._n 169._o these_o priest_n they_o will_v not_o only_o not_o submit_v their_o person_n and_o doctrine_n to_o the_o censure_n of_o the_o church_n where_o they_o administer_v for_o they_o must_v have_v a_o jury_n of_o clerk_n a_o classis_fw-la of_o priest_n to_o go_v upon_o they_o but_o they_o bind_v their_o poor_a church_n to_o their_o lip_n &_o build_v it_o upon_o themselves_o and_o with_o their_o blaze_a light_n strike_v all_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o hearer_n &_o follower_n stark_o blind_a again_o 170._o again_o p._n 169_o 170._o by_o their_o prophetical_a conventicle_n and_o classical_a synod_n they_o assume_v into_o their_o own_o hand_n the_o key_n of_o all_o knowledge_n and_o shut_v up_o the_o scripture_n yea_o all_o god_n grace_n even_o the_o holy_a ghost_n itself_o among_o themselves_o in_o these_o their_o school_n of_o prophet_n as_o also_o into_o their_o class_n of_o select_a priest_n the_o sceptre_n of_o christ_n and_o absolute_a government_n of_o all_o church_n to_o who_o it_o be_v leave_v but_o to_o receive_v and_o execute_v the_o reverend_a decree_n of_o this_o famous_a classis_fw-la of_o priest_n in_o another_o place_n have_v tell_v how_o the_o pontifical_n have_v open_v their_o mouth_n unto_o accurse_a blasphemy_n than_o he_o return_v unto_o the_o reformist_n and_o speak_v on_o this_o wise_a 190._o wise_a p._n 189_o 190._o the_o pharisee_n of_o these_o time_n i_o mean_v these_o your_o great_a learned_a preacher_n your_o good_a man_n that_o sigh_v and_o groan_v for_o reformation_n but_o their_o hand_n with_o the_o sluggard_n deny_v to_o work_v these_o counterfeit_n will_v raise_v up_o a_o second_o error_n even_o as_o a_o second_o beast_n by_o so_o much_o more_o dangerous_a by_o how_o much_o it_o have_v more_o show_n of_o the_o truth_n these_o man_n instead_o of_o this_o gross_a antichristian_a government_n which_o be_v now_o manifest_a and_o odious_a unto_o all_o man_n will_v bring_v in_o a_o new_a adulterate_a forge_a government_n in_o show_n or_o rather_o in_o despite_n of_o christ_n bless_a government_n which_o they_o in_o the_o pride_n rashness_n ignorance_n and_o sensuality_n of_o their_o fleshly_a heart_n most_o miserable_o innovate_v corrupt_a and_o pervert_v etc._n etc._n the_o thing_n itself_o they_o innovate_v and_o corrupt_v in_o that_o they_o add_v new_a devise_n of_o their_o own_o as_o their_o pastoral_a suspension_n from_o their_o sacrament_n their_o set_a continue_a synod_n their_o select_a class_n of_o minister_n their_o settle_a supreme_a council_n etc._n etc._n that_o which_o mr_n johnson_n and_o other_o with_o he_o do_v require_v be_v more_o general_a and_o ambiguous_a viz._n 64._o viz._n apol._n of_o brown_n pet._n 3_o pos_fw-la 9_o p._n 64._o that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o govern_v by_o popish_a canon_n court_n class_n custom_n or_o any_o humane_a invention_n but_o by_o the_o law_n and_o rule_n which_o christ_n have_v appoint_v in_o his_o testament_n but_o that_o which_o h._n barow_n write_v be_v more_o plain_a and_o more_o particular_o apply_v to_o the_o minister_n of_o england_n who_o he_o call_v the_o reformist_n of_o they_o he_o say_v 191._o say_v discov_n p._n 191._o their_o permanent_a synod_n &_o counsel_n also_o which_o they_o will_v erect_v not_o here_o to_o speak_v of_o their_o new_a dutch_a class_n for_o therein_o be_v a_o secret_a shall_v only_o consist_v of_o priest_n or_o minister_n as_o they_o term_v they_o people_n of_o the_o church_n be_v shut_v out_o &_o neither_o be_v make_v acquaint_v with_o the_o matter_n debate_v there_o neither_o have_v free_a voice_n in_o those_o synod_n and_o counsel_n but_o must_v receive_v and_o obey_v without_o contradiction_n whatsoever_o those_o learned_a priest_n shall_v decree_v these_o synod_n and_o counsel_n shall_v have_v absolute_a power_n over_o all_o church_n doctrine_n &_o minister_n to_o erect_v ratify_v or_o abrogate_v to_o excommunicate_v or_o depose_v at_o their_o pleasure_n their_o decree_n be_v most_o holy_a without_o controlment_n unless_o it_o be_v by_o the_o prince_n or_o the_o high_a court_n of_o parliament_n not_o here_o to_o speak_v of_o their_o solemn_a order_n observe_v in_o these_o council_n and_o synod_n as_o their_o choice_n by_o suffrage_n among_o themselves_o of_o their_o archisynagogon_n or_o rector_n chori_n their_o precedent_n as_o they_o call_v he_o propounder_n or_o moderator_n of_o their_o council_n about_o which_o their_o predecessor_n have_v have_v no_o small_a stir_n until_o their_o holy_a father_n the_o pope_n put_v a_o end_n to_o the_o strife_n by_o get_v the_o chair_n this_o stuff_n they_o will_v bring_v in_o again_o under_o colour_n of_o reformation_n these_o and_o many_o more_o their_o leaven_a corrupt_a writing_n of_o discipline_n and_o their_o supplication_n unto_o the_o parliament_n declare_v etc._n etc._n again_o he_o say_v 193_o say_v ib._n p._n 193_o these_o reformist_n howsoever_o for_o fashion_n sake_n they_o give_v the_o people_n a_o little_a liberty_n to_o sweeten_v their_o mouth_n and_o make_v they_o believe_v that_o they_o shall_v choose_v their_o own_o minister_n for_o further_a right_n in_o the_o censure_a their_o minister_n or_o in_o the_o order_n the_o affair_n of_o their_o church_n they_o allow_v not_o as_o have_v be_v say_v yet_o even_o in_o this_o pretend_a choice_n do_v they_o cozen_v &_o beguile_v they_o also_o leave_v they_o nothing_o but_o the_o smoky_a windy_a title_n of_o election_n only_o enjoin_v they_o to_o choose_v some_o university_n clerk_n one_o of_o these_o college_n bird_n of_o their_o own_o brood_n or_o else_o come_v a_o synod_n in_o the_o neck_n of_o they_o &_o annihilate_v the_o election_n whatsoever_o it_o be_v they_o have_v also_o a_o trick_n to_o stop_v it_o before_o it_o come_v so_o far_o namely_o in_o the_o ordination_n which_o must_v forsooth_o need_v be_v do_v by_o other_o priest_n for_o the_o church_n that_o choose_v he_o have_v no_o power_n to_o ordain_v he_o and_o this_o make_v the_o mother_n church_n of_o geneva_n and_o the_o dutch_a class_n i_o dare_v not_o say_v the_o secret_a class_n in_o england_n to_o make_v minister_n for_o we_o in_o
to_o choose_v a_o bishop_n which_o be_v send_v thither_o as_o a_o ambassador_n in_o the_o embassage_n of_o god_n it_o may_v be_v grant_v unto_o they_o to_o glorify_v god_n in_o their_o meeting_n together_o he_o speak_v there_o not_o of_o choose_v a_o bishop_n to_o minister_v in_o their_o own_o church_n but_o of_o choose_v one_o to_o be_v their_o deputy_n to_o travel_v unto_o the_o synod_n or_o meeting_n in_o antiochia_n for_o settle_v of_o order_n in_o that_o church_n and_o in_o the_o same_o place_n to_o move_v they_o the_o more_o he_o show_v what_o be_v the_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n in_o such_o case_n viz._n that_o always_o the_o neighbour_n church_n do_v send_v bishop_n and_o some_o of_o they_o elder_n and_o deacon_n again_o write_v upon_o the_o same_o occasion_n unto_o polycarpus_n bishop_n of_o smyrna_n he_o say_v 98._o say_v epist_n ad_fw-la polyc._n p._n 97_o 98._o it_o be_v meet_v to_o gather_v a_o synod_n comely_a in_o the_o lord_n and_o choose_v some_o 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