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A44785	Darknesse and ignorance Expelled by the light shining forth, and the appearance of the day. In answer to a book called, Innocents no saints. Published by one Edward Dodd, wherein he hath laboured to prove tythes lawfull, and tithing priests and hirelings to be the ministers of the word, and the masse-house the church; and calls idolatry civility, and heathenish complements courtesie, and hath perverted many Scriptures. His deceit laid open, his vindication made void, and his arguments confounded, and Truth laid open in all these particulars, for the sake of the upright in heart, who rejoyces in Truths prosperity. By one of the lambs followers, who makes warre against the heart of the dragon, and against the rear of the beast. F.H.	Howgill, Francis, 1618-1669.	1659 (1659)	Wing H3156; ESTC R215412	21,256	31

brin● the custome of unbelievers and the practice of unbelievers among the Saints who are believers and follows Christ their example I say we have no such custome nor the Churches of Christ The next piece of deceit thou art pleading for is bowing to one another the knee and titles of honour wherein the Devill hath a great hold among people Gen. 44. 14. This thou bringst to prove bowing Jadah and his brethren came to Josephs house and they fell on the ground This is an example indeed Wilt thou take another the same brethren of Joseph sold him when he was a boy was that a good act If thou say nay I say one is as much commanded and commended as the other for that same that doth violence it 's the same that respects persons but Abtaham bowed to the children of Heth what of that So did Joseph swear by the life of Pharaoh and both Joseph and Abraham were good men but they were never the better for these actions neither the one nor the other But then thou brings a Scripture and thou saith it must stop our mouths Gen 49. 8. 10. And thou saith this may teach us if we be of Jacobs seed and houshold to bow to the God of Jacob our King why should this stop our mouths But the scepter shall not depart from Judah nor a Law-giver from between his feet till Shilo come So he was to rule to wit Judah till Shilo came why should this stop our mouths Shilo is come and hath opened our mouths and the scepter is departed from Judah long since both them that bowed to Iudah and Iudah that was once bowed unto they are both bowed under and Shilo is set above and now he must be bowed unto go learn what that meanes It was answered against bowing the second Commandement prohibits it Thou shalt not bow down to them but the answer satisfies thee not Thou saith Doth this forbid civill respects or idolatrous worship That which thou calls civill respect is idolatrous worship putting off the hat and bowing the knee to a man with a gay Cloak or a gold Ring or a company of Ribbons or a long Gown To bow downe to such because of the attire is respecting of persons and idolatry but you are fallen into a far worse state then respecting of persons for you respect cloaths and doffs your hats and bow your knees to them with fine rayment And let the man in vile rayment or poor attire go by without either cap or knee and for all thy civility thou so greatly pleadest for and courtesie if he put not off his hat to thee it may be thou wilt call him Sirrah Rogue or Clowne for all thy civility Again put on the poor man good attire and a fine Cloak and a gold Ring then you change your note and say If it please your Worship or like your Honour your humble servant Sir Now here is not only respecting of persons which is commission of sin but respecting the creatures and worshipping the array which is upon a mans back which is idolatry and not civility which is to be condemned Yet civility and courtesie I owne which is so in deed and in truth but that which the world calls civility and courtesie is hypocrisie and idolatry And for Salutations thou saith we seldome use and thou bringst Scripture to prove that Christ and the Saints saluted one another Their salutations are owned and such salutations are practised by us in uprightnesse of heart and true love without feignednesse but we cannot do as you do bid a man God-speed when he is not doing the worke of God nor say Farewell to them who are in their evill deeds nor as the world doth with their Good-evens and Good-morrows and takes Gods name in vain and if one do not answer them according to their light vaine mindes they will fall a rayling and beating all such spirits we deny and their salutations In thy second Observation Thou saith Do not we prove that places of Christian Assemblies to be a Church and thou brings many Scriptures to no purpose Thou bringst the 1 of Kings vers. 8. and 1 Cor. 11. For the glory of the Lord shall fill the house of the Lord And thou answerest and saist not the Steeple-house but the Church There thou hast added to the Scripture and divers other Scriptures thou bringest wherein the Temple was called the house of God and the store-houses were called the house of God Mal. 3. 10. All which Scriptures I own but they are nothing to thy purpose that the Temple was called the house of God and the Tabernacle the house of God and the Store-houses the house of God this is granted These were made and builded according to the command of God wherein the Lords treasure was which fed the poor the fatherlesse and the widow and the Priests and Levites that ministred unto him which Temple Priests Store-houses and Tythes were figures and shadows of good thing to come which when the good things did come the figures ended But when did God command your Idols Temples to be built and what are they a figure of That which thou shouldst have proved is that your Steeple-houses where you meet anywhere in Scripture is called the Church of God Thou and thy Master Smith art offended that we call the place you meet in a Steeple-house and saith take heed that no such Language be spoken again as Steeple house Why not Huth not these houses Steeples But we shall call it truly and properly as it is the Masse-house which hath the Crosses standing upon them yet or an Idols Temple which was dedicated for the idolatrous worship and for the Idoll Masse and other superstitious ceremonies your windows full of pictures your walls full of images and Monks faces and bears yet the Popish names as St. Anthony St. Clement St. Dunstans and St. Patrick and St. Maries and the like You blinde men full of ignorance perverters of the Scriptures which would bring the Scripture to prove your idolatrous Masse-house to be a Church and calls it the house of God Temple of God when the first Founder was an Apostate and you who hold it up and calls it a Church are of his brood and are dead stones which worhips in the dead house and knows not what the Church of God is and yet you say to what end should we bring Scripture to prove any thing by to these men take it not into your mouths except you bring it for a better end to make people believe that the Prophets and Apostles when they spoke of the house of God and the Church of God spoke of your Idoll-temple or ever intended or meant your Steeple-house or old Masse-house And thou saith Few of the Ministers in England thou believes henceforth will have any thing to do with us for we are blind leaders of the blinde I believe they see sufficiently they have come to great losse and sees their weapons have not

doth the Church of Christ who meet in his Name but such are your Ministers therefore we have turned from them many years ago And the next thing that thou art offended at is that a woman spoke in a meeting near 〈◊〉 what if ten had spoke if they had spoke by the Spirit of the Lord what offence had it been Did not God promise by Ioel that he would pour forth his spirit upon his Daughters and they should prophesie and wouldest thou stop them And Priscilla instructed a Minister better then any of your Parish tything Priests to wit Apollo And had not Philip three daughters did prophesie And was there not women with Clement that were fellow-labourers in the Gospell And what though she that was in the transgression was to keep silence in the Church Doth it therefore follow that they that are come out of the transgression are to be silent in the Church Is this good Logick Edward If Christ be in the male and in the female may he speake in the male but not in the female Doth not the Apostle say the man is not without the woman nor the woman without the man but both in the Lord And if the woman be in the Lord as well as the man may not the Lord speak in her Art thou one of them that wilt limit the Holy one What if he speake in a dumb Asse and reprove the madnesse of the Prophet Balaam And if hee should doe so now to reprove the mad Prophets that are in Balaams way loving the wages of unrighteousnesse now as he did then will you reprove God He that reproves him shall answer it and he that gainsayes either Son or Daughter shall perish in the gain-saying And now I come to thy third Observation The third Observation THy eye being evill thou canst not see when good cometh and thou art one of them who watcheth for iniquity that thereby thou mayest blaspheme the Name of God and his Truth which thou art out of And as for our Tenets which thou saith thou hast named and shamed thou no more knows us nor our Tenets then thou knowest from whence the winde comes and whither it goes For all our words are as a parable to thee and thou knowest not what we say although thou hast catched and snatched up some of our words brokenly to quarrell with yet we are hidden from thee and a gulfe is between thee and us that as thou canst not apprehend nor comprehend but first a terrible day must come upon thee and those things which thou hast laid down to be our Tenets thou doubtest whether they be or no manifest by thy owne words If we say so and if we hold so thou had better have been certain before thou hadst shewed thy selfe too imperious and arrogant of sham●ng them when thou knowest not whether we hold them as thou hast layd them downe in thy owne words the shame at last will come upon thy selfe and that rash hasty raging spirit by which thou utterest forth all this mudd and dirt every one may see in this observation thy deceit manifest And the first thing that thy darke minde stumbles at is that some have said That they that have the spirit of God are equall with God He that hath the Spirit of God is in that which is equall as God is equall and his wayes equall And he that is joyned to the Lord is one sprit there is unity and the unity stands in equality it selfe He that is borne from above is the Sonne of God and he said I and my Father are one And when the Sonne is revealed and speaks the Father speaks in him and dwells in him and he in the Father In that which is equall in equality it selfe there is equality in nature though not in stature Goe learn what these things mean the understanding and learned will know what I say and this is neither damnable nor blasphemous but on the contrary it is saving and precious to them that believe And thou concludes Though they be glorified in heaven yet are not equall with God Here thou blasphemes the Son is glorified with the Father in the same glory he had with him before the world began the glory is in purity equality immortality and eternity but for thy proof thou bringst Psal. 86 8. For who among the gods is like unto our God And again There is none like unto thee O Lord Here thou hast gone about to prove more Gods then one in heaven Were the gods glorified in heaven which were not like the living God Or were they in heaven which were not like the Lord What blasphemy is this They that are in heaven are like him in his image and not like any other but in the world there are gods many and Lords many but that is not in heaven There are no Gods nor Lords in the World nor in the Earth that is like the living God and living Lord of Heaven and Earth And many such nonsensicall phrases hast thou uttered and foolish impertinencies and thou hast scarce cited one Scripture but thou hast either misapplyed or wrested and perverted being very ignorant and unlearned and thy Masters for whom thou contendst will never receive much honour nor credit by thy writing or vindication of them But to the second Particular which thou calls our Tenet is That Christ Jesus is not glorified in his humane nature and that he hath no reall body but his mysticall body and this thou sayest is contrary to Scripture Luke 24. 3. 9. and Acts 3. 20. John 17. And in this thou sayest we are shamed I say thou hast shamed thy selfe and hath cited these Scriptures to no purpose at all none of all these speaks of humane nature or mysticall body but this I say he is glorified with the Father in a spirituall body in the same glory he had with the Father before the world began And the same Jesus which was of the seed of Abraham according to the flesh and the Sonne of God according to the spirit is glorified with the Father the man Christ Jesus he is set downe at the right hand of God But if thou meane by humane a carnall body or the same flesh that thou hast on deal plainly with us and nakedly the next time thou or any of thy Teachers writes and prove us by Scripture where the Church is called his mysticall body or where hast thou got these new coyned words as Humane nature and mysticall body Correct thy pen and let no such Popish phrases come in print again least thou shame thy selfe more instead of shaming of us And thou concludes If any say here he is or there he is on earth believe them not Where learnedst thou this Article of Faith I pray thee shew me Is he not both in heaven and earth How should he restore the earth and all things into their purity if he must not be manifest in the earth What wilt thou confine him to or in a