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A45150 The peaceable design being a modest account of the non-conformist's meetings : with some of their reasons for nonconformity, and the way of accomodation in the matter of religion, humbly proposed to publick consideration by some ministers of London against the sitting of Parliament in the year 1675. Humfrey, John, 1621-1719. 1675 (1675) Wing H3701; ESTC R24391 30,262 97

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think if they could do it It is only to answer the Sheet which was tendered to the Parliament about two or three Sessions ago for taking away the Subscription and Oxford Oath and which shall be in order therefore by and by repeated We would give all the Money in our Purses with a Tax or without any upon condition that the Parliament would either have such Arguments of ours answered or else repeal their Impositions There are Three things enjoyned in the Act of Uniformity Re-ordination The Declaration The Subscription As we have borrowed thus much already from a late Paper of the Author now intimated So shall we make use of others of the same person in the which follows We begin with the Threshold Re-ordination It must be acknowledg'd by both Parties That Re-ordinvtion is an uncouth thing quite against the Hair of the literate World whether Fathers Councels or Modern Divines Protestants and Papists and put usually into the same Predicament and more especially by Austin with Re-baptization If the present Bishops therefore in the imposing of it would have stood by it and maintained the Lawfulness of it as being neither against the Law of Nature nor positive Institution but as having rather the Examples of the Apostles and of Paul and Barnabas more particularly for it with what else by some is urged against the stream barely of humane Authority this would perhaps have looked handsome and the ingenuity of it would have been notable But when they would generally have it imposed and yet disown it and be ashamed of it in so much as though there be few or none ordained by Presbyters but believed the validity of that Ordination they would have our former Ministry to be null and make us contented in effect to be held but usurpers of holy things Sacrilegious persons and all our Ministerial Acts void as the Acts of meer Laicks before it is really so intollerably vile as no mortal flesh is able to bear It is true there is one Instance from Antiquity out of Athanasius of some persons with Ischyras among them whom they would not allow as these hold to be Ministers because one Coluthus that ordained them was only a Presbyter Unto which may be added the Story of the purblind Bishop 2. Concil Hispal 3. Can. 5. circa An. 656. But we answer with Dr. Field on the Church in his Fifth Book It is one thing what they judged according to their Ecclesiastical Canons and another what they ought to judg according to the Word of God The Scripture makes no difference between Bishop and Presbyter the Superiority and Inferiority arising after in the Church And when we are made Christs Ministers and put in office by him according to his Word how shall that Authority be vacated for something wanting only in the Constitutions of Men Here is a matter of Infinite wrong which the opinion of these Men do us It takes away the Office Christ hath given us and holds it null If it was a grievous thing in the late times to put one of these Ministers out of his place what is it to put so many of us out of our Office There is no Person almost of Spirit but will be ready to part with his life as soon as the Honour he holds from the King and shall not the Ordained Minister maintain the Right which he holds from Christ When so many eminent Predecessors to these Bishops and other Defenders of this Church have maintained Presbyterian Ordination When the Reformed Churches abroad have no other When the Case was such as that there was no other to be had here in the late times When not we alone then are concerned only in the wrong but our Lord and Master whose cause it is and whose business we are to do and the Souls of so many people We cannot but appeal to the Higher Powers in a matter of so great right and wrong as this is For we are contented to have it revised and judged whether the Diocesan Bishop be distinguishedly named in Christs Charter for Ordination as he is in the Canons of Men Or when we have been ordained already as Timothy by the laying on of the hands of Presbytery whether the Lawn be de Essentia to the Ceremony and the Hands avail nothing without the Sleeves on The next thing is the Declaration I A. B. do here declare my unfained assent and consent to all and every thing contain-and pr●scribed in and by the Book Entituled The Book of Common Prayer and the form of Ordaining Bishops Priests and Deacons That is assent to all and every thing contained in and consent to every thing prescribed by these Books Sirs There was a time when that the Nation had the hopeful overture of a Concord between the sober of two parties and the Hearts of most Men were in preparation to receive it But alas instead of such a Gratious and Blessed Issue as was expected loe here the streight injunction of an Assent and Consent to all Conformity and every thing of it new and old to be approved and obeyed or else one part of the Ministry must be immediately turn'd out How can those now whose Judgments are and have been still for moderation between both opinions in times before as now be able to come over to one side altogether on such terms as these How can they we say make so short a turn as this without the hazard of some sprain to their Conscience if they do it We cannot tell you perhaps nor are willing to declare the Impressions we have upon our Spirits against a going back from that more Spiritual Plain and simply zealous Service of Almighty God in the way we were in and Reformation we sought unto that something we are not used to and fear to wit unto a form of Worship and Discipline that carrying a countenance of both but being rather only a kind of Idols thereof doth seem to us by the shew pomp and complement of the things it contains not to undermine the Life Power and Efficacy of one and the other We cannot tell you perhaps what moves us so much from within whether fear of Popery returning on us or aliquid 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 But we will produce Two or Three Instances apiece against Assent and against Consent to that which is injoyned that we may approve our selves to the Consciences of all as well as our own in refusing this Declaration For our Assent In the Athanasian Creed we find this passage Which Faith except every one does keep whole without doubt he shall perish everlastingly One of the Articles of this Creed is this The Holy Ghost is of the Father and the Son In this Article we know the Greek Church hath differed from the Latin and held That the Holy Ghost proceeds from the Father only If we give our Assent then to every thing or passage contained in this Book we must believe the Greek Church undoubtedly damned And what if