the members of the true Church so lived in the days of old and many thousands blessed be the Lord in this day are living so and coming so to live Christ being the same yesterday to day and for ever For saith the Apostle What manner of love hath the Father bestowed on us that we should be called the sons of God therefore the world knoweth us not mark the reason because it knew him not but said He was Joseph's son a sinner and hath a Devil and deceiveth the people Why hear ye him Even as Teachers and Professors generally cry out this day against his servants whom he hath sent forth to bear witness of his true Light that it is a natural Light and not sufficient to lead out of sin c. But saith John Beloved now are we the sons of God and it doth not yet appear what we shall be but we know that when he shall appear and blessed be the Lord he is appeared in his Saints 2 Cor. 13.5 Col. 1.27 Rom. 8.10 We shall be like him for we shall see him as he is And every one that hath this hope in him purifieth himself mark that even as he is pure 1 Joh. 3.1.2.3 And herein was Love made perfect and gives boldness in the day of Judgement because say they even as he is take notice of that so are we in this world 1 Joh. 4.17 He that can receive it let him for he was and is without sin and bare our sins in his body on the Tree c. Therefore saith the Apostle If we be dead with Christ we believe that we shall live â—…im Now Christ was dead to sin and the Gospel did wiâ—…s some of them dead to sin and could no longer live therein but live unto Christ in newness and righteousness of Life for a dead man that is really dead cannot move act or speak so he that is really dead to sin cannot act or commit sin and Paul did say That himself ahd others were dead to sin and free from sin Rom. 6.2.7 the old man crucified and the body of sin destroyed Therefore saith he Rom. 6.11 Ver. 14. Reckon your selves to be dead indeed unto sin but alive unto God thorough our Lord Jesus Christ for sin shall not have dominion over you for ye are not under the Law but under Grace which Crace taught them to deny all ungodliness and worldly lusts and to live truly like God in this present world Therefore saith Peter 〈◊〉 8.11,12 Forasmuch as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh arm your selves likewise with the same mind for he that hath suffered in the flesh as Old England and New-England and many other places can witness how much many of the faithful servants of the Most High God have suffered in their flesh to the loss of life and spoil of Goods for the Testimony of Jesus and the wicked actions on record will testifie to generations to come I say Pet. 4.12 He that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased mark from sin that he no longer should live to the lust of the flesh or will of man the rest of his time but to the will of God c. And saith Paul Rom. 6.17 God be thanked ye were take notice not that then they were the servants of sin but having obeyed from the heart that form of Doctrine which was delivered you mark â— 18. being made free from sin became the servants of Righteousness So here according to the holy Scripture the Apostle did testifie â—om 17. that the Romans thorough the Gospel he preached unto them had freedom and victory over sin on this side the Grave Cor. 15.54.57 And the Gospel he preached was CHRIST the LIGHT in them and to that was he sent to turn their minds for what may be known of God he told them was manifest in them Rom. 1.19 And his Doctrine was Cor. 2.4,5,6 not with enticing words of mans wisdom but in the demonstration of the spirit and power of the Lord that their Faith might not stand in the wisdom of men by which wisdom they knew not God but in the power of the Lord. Howbeit saith he We preach wisdom 〈◊〉 them that are perfect according to Christ's Doctrine wâ—…d Be ye perfect even as your heavenly Father is perfect And Paul was not ashamed of this Gospel for it was and is the Power of God to salvation to every one that believes and follows the Light of Christ â—om 1.16,17 for therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith â—oh 5.4 by which faith the faithful came to get the victory over sin and freedom from sin and became servants to God and brought forth fruits unto holiness of life Rom 6.22,23 the end of which was and is everlasting peace â—atth 25.46 but the wages of sin living and dying in it is everlasting death and punishment Obj. But did not Paul say O wretched man c. And so though a man may say some be freed from the guilt of sin yet it cannot be that men may be free from the acting or committing of sin whilst they are on earth c. but by the righteousness of Christ imputed to them they shall he saved that believe in Christ c. Answ He that acteth or committeth sin is under the guilt and condemnation for sin for he that commits sin is of the Devil and the Light wil be his condemnation and whosoever abides in him saith John sinneth not whosoever sinneth hath not seen him neither knoweth him for he dyed for sinners and ungodly ones but not to live in sin but unto himself which dyed for them 2 Cor 5 15 and the righteousness of Christ imputed to any that live in sin and daily act and commit sin that will stand them in little stead in the day of the Lords account when he shall give to every one according to the deeds done in the body And although the Scripture saith Abraham believed God and it was imputed unto him for righteousness yet it doth not say that the righteousness of Christ shall be imputed to them which daily live and abide in sin Abraham believed and also obeyed the command of God now that which was written concerning Abrahams righteousness that was imputed unto him was not written for his sake alone as saith the Scripture but for us also to whom take notice of that it shall be imputed if we believe mark and take notice if ye believe it shall be imputed unto you for righteousness if ye say ye do believe then ye shall not abide in sin if ye believe and follow the Light of Christ in you then you shall not saith Christ abide in darkness sin or evil but shall have the Light of Life Compare John 8.12 John 12.46 to Rom. 4.23,24,25 And as for Paul's saying O wretched man c. I do affirme in the fear of God according to what I have received of the
God in thee judge The matter is great weighty which concerneth everlasting salvation And why should it be thought an incredible thing That Christ should now be manifested in mortal flesh qnickening them that were even dead in sins and trespasses for verily I I have written no other thing concerning him or of the operation of his Eternal spirit then what in measure I have really not imaginarily seen and handled and felt of his work and glory for I dare not speak of that which the Lord hath not wrought in me and by me or to boast in other mens lines for all the world have a form of worship talking of Christs words and the Prophets and Apostles words but are out of their Life and Power Behold what headiness and high-mindedness treachery and betraying one another and will be yet far worse by evil men and seducers c. What incontinence men and women burning in their lusts one towards another What eating and drinking and rising up to play c and yet all covered with a Profession of God and Christ But how can any better fruits be expected when Pastors and Teachers tell People for Doctrines they cannot get victory over sin on this side the Grave which herein is plainly proved false and the everlasting way of Truth discovered which leads out of sin and gives power against sin on this side the Grave and to live pure and holy even as God is holy Think it not impossible with the Lord all things are possible And what I have here written is not to render any man odious or to discover their nakedness but for the bringing of Gods truth to Light for I having had something lying on me a long time to give forth amongst the Professors and Baptists who have any true desires after God and as in obedience to the movings of the Lord I passing amongst them seeing their PRACTISES and hearing their DOCTRINES it was now laid on me of the Lord to give it forth as an Answer thereunto which I have done for the clearing of my Conscience in tender love that all who love their souls may be warned while time is For the dispensation of the fulness of time is come nigh for the gathering together all in ONE even in Christ whether things in Heaven or things in Earth The Parable of the Field is fulfilled the Pearl is found Father Mother Husband or Wife House or Land all is forsaken if the Lord calls and followed even to the end of the earth for the gathering into the unity with the Father and the Son This is the onely desire of him whom the Lord hath called into his labour which seeketh your Eternal good With the measure of God's spirit try all things and let not any motion passe away that seeks truly after God that you may come to have an infallible testimony of the spirit of the Lord in you to lead you and guide you For he that believeth hath the witness in himself T. M. THE BAPTIST AND INDEPENDENT CHURCHES So called Set on Fire By a bright shining Light revealed from Heaven Their PASTORS and TEACHERS scorching in the flame of it gnashing and blaspheming God and his Tabernacle As their Principles rash and judging herein recorded do demonstrate Which are answered for the vindicating of Truth and the satisfying of the simple In which they are found to be children of them which killed the Just and have drunken of the Cup of Fornication who also must drink of the Cup of Indignation at the hand of the Lord. 1. EDward-Whale accounted an Independent Teacher Priest of Waterford affirmed That the godliest man that ever was on the earth did not get the victory over sin or lived free from sin on this side the Grave He did not except Christ This he affirmed in his Pulpit before the whole Congregation in the Idol-Temple formerly a Masse-House with a Cross on the top of it and another at the end of it on the 21. day of the 6th Month 1659. in the City of Waterford Answ He that is born of God doth not commit sin because Christ the Seed of God is in him and as he abides in him he cannot sin though he may be tempted to sin as Christ was yet not overcome with the temptation of sin but thorough Faith in Christ gets the victory over sin and temptations on this side the grave 1 Joh. 3.9 ch 5. ver 4. Sin is of the Devil and he that commits it and pleads for it is taken captive by the Devil at his will 1 Tim. 2.26 1 Joh. 3.5.8 And for this purpose Christ the eternal Son of God was made manifest to take away sin and to destroy sin Heb. 2.14,15 And forasmuch as the children were partakers of flesh and blood Christ himself also partaked of the same that thorough the death he might destroy him that had the power of death that is the Devil and deliver them who thorough fear were all their life time subject to bondage which Christ redeemed them from for saith the Apostle He was made to us wisdom and redemption c. 1 Cor. 3.50 And the Apostle did witness through Christ victory over sin on this side the grave For saith he O death where is thy sting O grave or hell where is thy victory The sting of death is sin the strength of sin is the the Law but take notice thanks be unto God which giveth us the victory thorough our Lord Jesus Christ 1 Cor. 15.54,55,56,57 And so Priest Whale hath preached another Doctrine then Christ or his Ministers and hath as it were blasphemously charged Christ his holy Prophets and Apostles with sin for he did not except them when he said The godlinst man that ever was did not get the victory over sin on this side the grave And so by the holy Scriptures of this truth he is corrected and taken with a lye in his mouth and as it were denying the very purpose work and office of God in Christ which was to save from sin and thorough â—…ath to destroy sin and death and to take it away narling it to the cross c. And this testimony I give unto all the World for the Lord God and his truth That it is possible in and thorough CHRIST JESUS the light of the world that lighteth every one that comes into the World that all that it love and follow in the daily Cross I say That thorough Faith in the Blood of Christ who is our example whose steps many of us are following according to our measures who did not sin neither was guile found in his mouth c. it is possible to live free from sin and to live a pure righteous and holy life even perfect as he is perfect in this present World before this earthly Tabernacle go down to the grave and at this let none stumble but in the cool and calm spirit and in the Light and fear of God search the Scriptures for they testifie that
Mount Read and compare these Scriptures The spiritual man compares spiritual things with spiritual 1 Pet. 1.23,24,25 2 Pet. 1.17 to 21. Joh. 1.1 Rev. 10.13 Rom. 10 6,7,8 Heb. 4.12 So they which put the Letter which killeth for the Rule of Life and Faith unto Salvation in stead of the Spirit which quickneth are in the if I may speak Robert Carrs words fictions of the Divel and out of the true Faith and Truth of Jesus and not guided by that holy Spirit which righteous Abel Enoch and Abraham were before the Scriptures were written and shall be for ever when Scripture shall be no more 3. The Principles of Edward Whale Priest of Waterford and Priest Millard of Passage near Waterford Each of them affirmed in the Pulpit in the Idol Temple of Waterford That that Light which we called Quakers bear testimony unto which Christ hath enlightened every man withall that comes into the world they say say the Priests they have a Light within them but how great is that darkness This they both affirmed before the people Answ Here ye Priests have brought your selvs under the WOE which call the true LIGHT which lighteth every one that cometh into the world great darkness for WO is to them that call Light darkness darkness Light Isa 5.20 for I am the Light of the world saith Christ and he bids them walk in the Light he that walketh in the Light stumbles not but he that walketh in the dark stumbles and knowes not where he goes because there is no Light in him for the Light of the wicked which rebel against the Light shall be put out I am come a Light into the world saith Chaist and he bids them walk in the Light for he that believes in the Light and followes it shall not walk or abide in darkness but shall have the Light of Life Jo. 8 12 and no other Light than Christ do we testify of which God said Isa 42.9 he would give for a Light to lighten the Gentiles and for a Covenant to the people and for salvation to the ends of the earth And Paul a true Minister of God Act. 26.18 was sent to turn from darkness to the Light and from Satan's power to the living God Rom. 9.18 19. And he told them what might be known of God was manifest in them And Elihu said if the wicked confess their sin God will deliver their soul from going down to the pit and their life shall see the Light and be enlightned again with the Light of the living Jo. 12.46 Job 18.5 cha 24. chap. 23.26 to the 31. And John a man sent of God came to bear testimony of the Light and said That was the true Light that lighted every one that comes into the world Jo. 1.9 So ye Priests and ye all who deny the Light that lighteth every one that comes into the world are found to preach another doctrine than Christ and his Apostles preached and so are not to be received into the house neither bid God speed for they that so do will partake of your plagues 2 Jo. 9,10,11 4. The Principles and Judgement of Captain Samuel Wade Baptist Teacher given under his hand as followeth I do believe those people called Quakers are under the highest delusion in the world c. in the magnifying the Light within and stands in opposition to Christ without and the Scriptures And the first rise of the Quakers was in London about the year 1647 as witness S. Wade Ans It is agreeable and according to the Scriptures to magnifie and exalt God in man and the Spirit in man and Christ the Light in man for saith the Apostle What may be known of God who is Light is manifest in man Rom. 1.18 1 Jo. 1.5 And Christ said I am the Light which is within except ye be reprobates and this Light shined in the dark heart of man but the darkness comprehended it not but the Lord now by his eternall power hath caused and commanded the Light to shine out of darkness and hath shined take notice in our hearts and hath given the true knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ 2 Cor. 4.5 chap. 13.5 Jo. 1.1 to 9. And the Scripture saith If any man have not the Spirit of Christ in him he is none of his but if the Spirit of Christ be in you the body is dead and the Spirit is life because of righteâ—usness And this testimony I give for the Lord and his truth that the same Spirit of Light and Truth that raised Jesus from the grave is in us and by it hath God quickened and is quickning our mortall flesh even by his Spirit that dwelleth in us which is that mystery that hath been hâ—d since the long night of Apostacy these many generations even Christ in us the hope of Glory Col. 1.25,26,27 Rom. 8. ver 9.10.11 and God is a Spirit and all that ever come to worship God in truth must worship him with and in the Spirit of truth And therefore let that of God in all Judge whether it be delusion to be led and guided by the Spirit of truth or in opposition against Christ and the Scriptures to extol and magnifie the Light or Spirit within for saith Christ when he was with his Disciples if I go not away the Comforter will not come but If I go away I will send you the Comforter even the Spirit of truth which shall lead you and guide you into all truth And Paul said unto the Galatians because ye are sons God hath sent forth the Spirit of his son take notice into your hearts c. Jo. 16 13. Gal. 4.6 And therefore thou Samuel Wade and all you Professors of the world that talk of Christ in your fleshly wisedom which is from beneath and is sensuall and brutish your knowledge must perish and dye if ever the true Comsorter the Spirit of life and truth from God ye come to know or enjoy for that is but a knowing Christ in the flesh or flesh glorying in Christ but an enmity to the Cross of Christ and I can truly say as Paul did though I have known Christ in the flesh yet henceforth I desire to know him so no more To Gods witness in you all I speak which did never change or consent to sin unto which as your mindes come to be turned and by it to be lead and guided it will cause you to cease from your own words and to know the time to keep silent for a time of silence if ever ye come to minister from the Spirit of truth shall ye Baptists will ye nill ye and all Professors on the face of the earth come to know 1 Cor. 12.7 and so as in the measure of Gods Spirit which is given to every one of you to profit withall ye come to wait in the pure fear of the Lord that will be a bridle to your tongue and a limit to your
affirm in the fear of God we do not put any on works or duries according to the first Covenant for life and salvation for by the deeds of the Law no flesh shall be justified But a measure of Gods Light Grace and Spirit of truth being first given freely to every man to it obedience is required which as I said before is a Cross to the will of man through which Cross is the power of God felt to the slaying of the enmity and the cleansing of the heart whereby the faith of Gods Elect comes to be received which works by love in obedience to what the Lord requires and so by the same power as Christ was raised from the grave comes the Creature to be quickened even his mortall body by the Spirit of Christ that dwells in him and so comes to be changed to walk in newness of Life through obedience to the Life of God in man for Christ himself learned obedience in the days when he was manifest in flesh and being made perfect through sufferings became the author of eternall salvation to all them that obey him Heb. 5.8,9 and so to press the Creature to obedience to the Light and Spirit of Life and Truth within it is not against Christ nor contrary to the Scripture nor a setting man to work for Life but to work in obedience to the Life received is according to the doctrine of Christ and is the beginning of the ground work of salvation But I must once more return to my present work to wit to the magnifying of the Light and anointing within for saith John when he writ to the Saints concerning those which would have seduced them from the Light and anointing he exhorted them to abide in that of God in them for saith he I have not writ unto you because ye know not the truth but because ye have known it that ye might abide in it Let that therefore abide mark in you which ye have heard from the beginning If that which ye have heard from the beginning take notice shall remain in you ye also shall continue in the Father and in the Son and the anointing which ye have received of him mark that abides in you and ye need not that any should teach you but as the same anoynting teacheth you of all things and is truth and is no lye and as it hath taught you ye shall abide in him 1 Jo. 2.21 to 27. and so to magnifie the Light and Spirit within and walk in obedience to it is not Spirituall delusion nor against Christ nor in opposition to the Scripture which is largely proved by the Scriptures of truth But they that are not guided by the Light and Spirit of truth within are in the Spirituall delusion And whereas thou S. W. speaks of magnifying the Light within against Christ and in opposition to the Scriptures of truth Paul saith when he writ to the Philipians I would ye should understand Brethren that the things which have hapened unto me have fallen out rather to the furtherance of the Gospel so that my bonds in Christ are manifest c. for I know that it shall turn to my salvation through your prayers and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ according to my expectation and my hope that in nothing I shall be ashamed but that with all boldness as always take notice of that so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body c. And there is not any one thing in all the whole Scripture more clear to be proved then the magnifying of Christ the Law Light and Spirit of Truth in man And as for the first Rise of us which scorners call Quakers which S. W. saith was in London about the year 47 it is no more true then his charging of us that the magnifying of the Light within stands in opposition to Christ and the Scripture But as for the eternall power of the Lord God of hosts which in righteousness hath been revealed and made manifest amongst us more then hath been of late ages through the long night of Apostacy by which proud flesh hath exceedingly quaked and trembled that was not first in London as S.W. dreameth but in the North of England as many faithful witnesses can testifie if required and the first that ever was known to give us that name of Quakers as I heard out of the mouth of a true faithfull witness of the Lord was a persecuting Justice in Darby Shire Gervas Bennet as I remember about the year 1652. yet the power of the Lord was witnessed before that time amongst our friends in the North. Yet that was not the first rise of the Quakers or Quaking which S. W. saith was in London which plainly manifesteth to all the Children of Light that Captain Wade is no Minister of Christ neither following him in the regeneration for they that follow Christ in their mouths is found no guile mark that neither do they speak a lye for quaking was thousands of years before that For saith Moses so dreadfull was thy presence that I did exceedingly quake and tremble Heb. 12.21 And Isaac which was before Moses hundreds if not thousands of years did witness quaking or trembling for when he heard the voice of Esau the cunning Hunter he exceedingly trembled Gen 27.33 And in the holy war in the days of old the Host of Israel and the Garison and the spoylers mark ye spoylers who make a prey and spoyl of the Lords servants and their outward substance a Day of horror and perplexity is coming on you and the spoylers also did quake and tremble and there was a great trembling and quaking in the Host in the field 1 Sam. 14.15 And David said his flesh did tremble he was afraid of the judgements of the Lord Psal 119.120 And Daniel that holy Prophet when he saw the Vision and heard the voice of the Lord stood trembling and a great quaking fell on them that stood by Dan 10.7 to the 11. And Habbakuck when he heard the Decree of the Lord against the wicked who built towns with blood and established Cities by iniquity and that gave drink to their neighbours till they were drunken and their nakedness seen c. and violence was done on mens blood and they taught lyes and trusted in dumb Idols take notice and their rejoicing was to devour the poor secretly for the which the man of God saw the Lord would be avenged of them in the day he would invade them with his troops or compass them about with his terrible army with displayed banners the which when the Prophet heard his belly trembled and his lips quivered rottenness entred into his bowelâ— he trembled that he might rest in that day of trouble such a man as saith Isaiah Isa 66.2 to the 5. hath the Lord regard unto which is of meek and humble Spirit that trembles at his Word Habak 2.8 to the end chap. 3. See thou S. W. and you all that despises