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A85043 The churches and ministery of England, true churches and true ministery. Cleared, and proved, in a sermon / preach'd the 4th of May at Wiviliscombe; before a numerous congregation assembled together to hear the opposition, which had been long threatned to be made that day, by Mr Collier and others of his party, who, with the greatest strength the West would afford them, were present at the sermon. Wherein were these five things undeniably proved: 1. That a mixture of prophane and scandalous persons with reall saints, is not inconsistent with the Church of God or a true church. ... 5. And then, they also must needs be guilty, who forsake true churches and a lawfull ministry, to follow and hear unsent preachers. By Francis Fullwood minister of the Gospel at Staple Fitzpane in the county of Somerset. Before it there is an epistle and preface, shewing the manner, and a narrative subjoyned shewing the substance of the dispute after the sermon, (both which lasted nine hours.) Set forth by the ministers that were at the dispute, and attested under their hands. Fullwood, Francis, d. 1693.; Darby, Charls.; Collier, Thomas, fl. 1691. 1652 (1652) Wing F2498; Thomason E671_2; ESTC R202166 72,915 100

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are resolv'd and center'd in Christ but that is in Christ considered in Aggregato that is Christ consisting of head and members and which cannot be denied because else all the Covenant of grace and promises being Compare the Text with 1 Cor. 12. 12. centered in the pe●son of Christ as you would urge there should be none le●t for the body of Christ in the daies of the Gospel Now consider what can you gain by this Text the meaning is that the former Covenant of grace and promises made to Abraham are all centred in Christ that is in Christ both head and members in the daies of the Gospel as is better expla●●ed by the 14. ver of the same Chapter the blessing of Abraham is come upon the Gentiles through Christ Jesus that is the promises and priviledges of our Father Abraham the typicall head of the Jewish Church is come upon the Churches of the Gentiles by Jesus Christ the mystical head of the Gentile Church and were not the promises made to Abraham and his seed and did not the priviledge of being Church-members belong to Abraham and his seed and therefore the same promises and priviledges belong to professors of the Gentiles and their seed also Again were this Text for you at all it would onely serve to prove that Christs spirituall seed have the priviledge of being Church-members alone the contrary we have proved in the Sermon above shewing you that not only hypocrites but scandalous persons were members of the Church of God at Corinth against which you have nothing to say they being members of the visible Church are members of the visible body of Christ and by consequence have visible interest in the promises and priviledges which you say are centred in Christ I desire you M. Collier to shew us a better Text then this therefore for the repealing of Infants Church-membership Coll. But this is clear'd by the last verse of the same Chapter if ye be Christs then are ye Abrahams seed and heirs according to the promise Full. This text is clearer against you then the former was what doth it say it saith that the Gentiles by becoming Christs or Christians they become thereby Abrahams seed that is by being united to Christ really they become Abrahams reall seed and by being united to Christ visibly we become Abrahams visible seed and then accordingly we are interested in the promises and priviledges of Abraham being heirs according to the promise Hadridge There is now neither Jew nor Gentile bond nor free male nor female for ye are all one in Christ Jesus Full. I thank you for that M. Hadridge a most clear Text to prove the partition wall is broken down betwixt the Jews and Gentiles and that the Gentile Churches being now made one with the Jewish not as Jewish but as a Church have a right to all the priviledges of the Jewish Church and among the rest also to Church-membership for themselves and children if you have ever a better Text I pray produce it for these will not doe Coll. I pray then consider Rom. 2. 28 29. He is not a Jew that is one outwardly neither is that circumcision which is outwardly in the flesh but he is a Jew which is one inwardly c. Full. Alas this cannot be strictly and properly understood but by way of Comparison for a man cannot be a Jew and not a Jew that would be harsh the meaning is that he is not a Jew in Gods account that is such a one as shall have * Vers ult praise of God that is onely a member of the visible Church God looks chiefly to the heart or rather the Apostle is abolishing the Ordinance of Circumcision and winding up their hearts to the truth of it Circumcision that is of the heart not that in the dayes of the Gospel God doth so much regard the heart as that he appointed no outward Ordinances no visible Church nor visible worship or not members of the visible Church but such as are Circumcised in heart None of which you will offer to say and yet the Text taken your way offers to prove nothing else which I pray you consider But you must look for another Text this onely shewes that Circumcision it self is abolish't but the Covenant of Circumcision that abides as commanded upon Abraham and his seed both of Jewes and Gentiles for ever Gen. 17. 9. Col. But that Covenant was Circumcision ver 10. Full. Give the holy Ghost leave to interpret his own words and we read verse 11. That Circumcision was onely a token of the Covenant and though that sign is vanisht the thing remains unlesse you will make the substance of the Covenant in the time of the Law one thing and in the time of the Gospel another thing and so make two Covenants of Grace Col. I will not meddle with that now Full. But you must give us another Text or else we shall conclude That Children of Professors have the priviledge of being Church-members still Hadridge Matth. 3. Think not to say with your selves We have Abraham to our Father the Ax is laid to the root of the Tree which hath cut down all former priviledges Full. Alas have not all the other Scriptures which your selves have brought proved that we have Abraham to our Father stil and that we have no Promises or Priviledges at all but as we are Abrahams seed Had. But we must doe the works of Abraham that we may become Abrahams seed Full. True but as doing the works of Abraham indeed we become his reall seed and have a reall right unto his priviledges so by doing the works of Abraham in shew onely we become his seed in shew Which though it will not satisfie God who looks to the heart yet it gives them a title to outward priviledges from the hands of men who judge according to appearance The meaning of the place with the extent of it is plainly this That God requires more exactnesse and strictness in these dayes of the Gospel then he did in the times of ignorance under the Law not that the Gospel can any way possible deprive the Church of any Priviledge which made Grace to abound and not to diminish in this regard and therefore not this priviledge of having our Children Church-members with us Col. It is a Priviledge that our children are not Baptized and that in many respects Full. What are they I pray you Col 1. It is a priviledge for our Children to be in that condition that God would have them 2. Again Because when your Children are once Baptized you make it serve to make them secure telling them that now they are in a happy condition Full. Here are two priviledges for our Children not to be Baptized But to the first I say is it not a goodly priviledge for the Damned Devils to be in Hell yet that is the Condition God will have them in And for the second 't is a meer slander for as we