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A60334 True Catholic and apostolic faith maintain'd in the Church of England by Andrew Sall ... ; being a reply to several books published under the names of J.E., N.N. and J.S. against his declaration for the Church of England, and against the motives for his separation from the Roman Church, declared in a printed sermon which he preached in Dublin. Sall, Andrew, 1612-1682. 1676 (1676) Wing S394A; ESTC R22953 236,538 476

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those_o indirect_a mean_n which_o other_o solicitation_n of_o man_n tend_v to_o the_o like_a purchase_n be_v capable_a of_o all_o this_o be_v so_o how_o can_v you_o defend_v at_o least_o from_o blindness_n and_o imprudence_n your_o practice_n of_o more_o frequent_a recourse_n to_o your_o suppose_a saint_n then_o to_o the_o supreme_a undoubted_a saint_n of_o saint_n jesus_n christ_n not_o to_o treat_v at_o present_a how_o much_o this_o doctrine_n of_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v in_o itself_o injurious_a to_o god_n by_o give_v that_o worship_n to_o creature_n which_o belong_v only_o to_o himself_o as_o may_v appear_v by_o all_o those_o place_n of_o scripture_n which_o appropriate_a our_o invocation_n to_o god_n only_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o incommunicable_a attribute_n of_o omniscience_n infinite_a goodness_n and_o power_n nor_o how_o dishonourable_a it_o be_v to_o christ_n both_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o infinite_a merit_n and_o office_n of_o mediator_n and_o final_o the_o 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