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A54154 The invalidity of John Faldo's vindication of his book, called Quakerism no Christianity being a rejoynder in defence of the answer, intituled, Quakerism a new nick-name for old Christianity : wherein many weighty Gospel-truths are handled, and the disingenuous carriage of by W.P. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1305; ESTC R24454 254,441 450

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not_o what_o i_o say_v to_o be_v true_a p_o 69._o but_o if_o this_o be_v true_a sure_a i_o be_o there_o be_v no_o truth_n in_o the_o world_n and_o indeed_o there_o be_v no_o give_v this_o sort_n of_o carriage_n at_o large_a but_o by_o transcribe_v far_o the_o great_a part_n of_o his_o book_n vi_o of_o his_o idle_a jeer_n and_o frothy_a expression_n i_o have_v not_o meet_v with_o any_o man_n write_v upon_o so_o serious_a a_o subject_a as_o religion_n be_v that_o give_v himself_o the_o liberty_n of_o so_o many_o vain_a expression_n as_o if_o he_o have_v intend_v his_o discourse_n for_o vulgar_a merriment_n &_o not_o to_o christian_a information_n if_o my_o reader_n please_v to_o trouble_v himself_o with_o the_o perusal_n of_o these_o follow_a page_n he_o shall_v find_v enough_o to_o nauseate_a p._n 6_o 22_o 23_o 26_o 27_o 29_o 30_o 34_o 37_o 40_o 47_o 50_o 51_o 53_o 58_o 60_o 69_o 71_o 72_o 95._o take_v two_o instance_n he_o cackle_v like_o a_o hen_n when_o he_o have_v lay_v a_o worse_a 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pag._n 15._o pag._n 30._o pag._n 16._o act._n 12._o 24._o pietr._n soan_n polan_n p._n 152_o p._n 36_o 37._o erasm_n on_o 2_o pet._n 1._o 19_o ibid_fw-la in_o 1_o cor._n cap._n 2._o polano_n hist_o coun._n tr._n p._n 150._o crad_n divine_a drop_n p._n 171_o 172_o 210_o 215_o 221_o 217._o this_o give_v the_o lie_n to_o j._n faldo_n wil._n dell._n confut_o of_o simp_n pag._n 114_o 115_o 116_o 117._o tom._n 3._o fol._n 169._o mart._n vol._n 3._o p._n 572_o 573._o 3_o vol._n of_o the_o book_n of_o martyr_n p._n 298._o pag._n 17._o my_o answ_n pag._n 36._o col._n 2._o 2._o hebr._n 6._o 11._o chap._n 10._o 22._o ●_o book_n martyr_n p._n 577._o this_o j._n faldo_n kick_v at_o he_o be_v one_o with_o the_o papist_n 3_o book_n of_o martyr_n p._n 475._o p._n 18_o 19_o pag._n 19_o pag._n 19_o 20._o pag_n 39_o a_o ellegant_n way_n of_o speak_v and_o scriptural_a pag._n 40._o pag._n 21._o answ_n p._n 42._o ephes_n ●_o 13._o pag._n 22_o which_o concern_v he_o if_o he_o will_v have_v what_o he_o write_v to_o be_v according_a to_o scripture_n pag._n 22._o my_o answ_n pag._n 42._o quak._n no_o chr._n p._n 59_o pag._n 23._o pag._n 24._o pag._n 63._o p._n 25_o 26._o ibid._n p._n 26._o act_n 8._o 30_o 31._o dell_n trial_n of_o spirit_n p._n 10._o collier_n gen._n epist_n pag._n 249._o c._n 10._o pag._n 258._o c._n 12._o those_o famous_a poor_a suffer_v christian_n the_o waldenses_n in_o their_o pure_a time_n beside_o many_o other_o weithty_a point_n wherein_o they_o symbolise_v with_o we_o in_o this_o very_a matter_n be_v not_o foreign_a who_o in_o a_o confession_n about_o five_o hundred_o and_o fifty_o year_n old_a ●aid_v this_o down_o as_o a_o piece_n of_o their_o creed_n that_o the_o discovery_n &_o testimony_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n in_o they_o be_v the_o most_o convince_v evidence_n and_o infallible_a proof_n of_o the_o divine_a authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n consequent_o the_o spirit_n must_v have_v be_v their_o judge_n and_o rule_n concern_v their_o understanding_n the_o truth_n testify_v by_o they_o as_o ●_o p._n porrin_n their_o historian_n in_o so_o many_o word_n assure_v we_o concern_v they_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o his_o notable_a history_n of_o their_o rise_n doctrine_n suffering_n and_o progress_n pag._n 23_o 24_o 25_o 26_o 27._o council_n tom._n 1._o p._n 481._o can_n 60._o anno_fw-la 364._o and_o p._n 549._o can_n 27._o anno_fw-la 417._o after_o christ_n christ_n i_o find_v john_n faldo_n often_o scorn_v inspiration_n and_o bring_v it_o into_o odium_fw-la under_o the_o word_n enthusiasm_n use_v of_o late_a to_o signify_v whimsical_a pate_n or_o head_n trouble_v with_o a_o religious_a kind_n of_o frenzy_n as_o if_o he_o have_v abandon_v the_o plea_n enjoyment_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o best_a separatist_n who_o name_n he_o empty_o honour_n and_o resolve_v to_o set_v up_o for_o a_o coffe-house_n droll_fw-fr or_o a_o play-prophanist_a to_o cool_v his_o courage_n and_o stop_v his_o career_n i_o commend_v two_o or_o three_o late_a discourse_n to_o his_o perusal_n write_v by_o man_n of_o undoubted_a learning_n and_o pretend_o defend_v by_o j._n f._n in_o his_o quakerism_n no_o christianity_n against_o the_o people_n call_v quaker_n the_o first_o be_v d._n patrick_n his_o friendly_a debate_n second_o fowler_n his_o design_n of_o christianity_n never_o to_o be_v answer_v by_o that_o angry_a man_n that_o design_v it_o and_o w._n sherlock_n his_o late_a discourse_n of_o jesus_n christ_n etc._n etc._n if_o both_o presbyterian_o and_o independent_o be_v not_o thorough_o and_o true_o charge_v to_o be_v enthusiast_n man_n hold_v what_o j._n f._n condemn_v we_o for_o own_v though_o less_o justifiable_o and_o if_o more_o ridiculous_a interpretation_n be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v among_o they_o than_o be_v ever_o yet_o read_v in_o any_o quaker_n book_n i_o be_o content_a to_o suffer_v j._n f_n reproach_n as_o just_o who_o do_v not_o do_v as_o he_o will_v be_v do_v by_o his_o great_a scab_n or_o leprosy_n &_o of_o some_o other_o of_o his_o fraternity_n too_o for_o alas_o it_o be_v at_o best_a but_o a_o piece_n of_o heathenism_n with_o he_o and_o a_o man_n may_v be_v a_o very_a good_a christian_a forsooth_o by_o a_o new_a art_n of_o imputation_n find_v out_o and_o accommodate_v to_o the_o ease_n of_o hypocrite_n without_o that_o straight_a and_o legal_a way_n of_o just_a and_o holy_a live_n pag._n 27._o pag._n 28_o 29._o pag._n 58_o 59_o pag._n 29._o 29._o at_o who_o handwriting_a pag._n 61._o 61._o his_o blasphemy_n against_o the_o light_n pag._n 61._o 61._o i_o will_v desire_v the_o reader_n to_o take_v notice_n that_o the_o first_o reformer_n never_o intend_v by_o their_o great_a respect_n to_o the_o scripture_n to_o establish_v they_o their_o rule_n exclusive_a of_o the_o spirit_n as_o most_o do_v now_o w._n kiffin_n for_o instance_n only_o they_o do_v on_o all_o occasion_n prefer_v they_o as_o god_n tradition_n to_o the_o place_n of_o a_o rule_n beyond_o popish_a doctor_n or_o council_n which_o they_o who_o know_v any_o thing_n in_o these_o matter_n be_v well_o assure_v to_o be_v the_o truth_n of_o the_o case_n so_o that_o they_o be_v but_o a_o rule_n comparative_o as_o we_o also_o hold_v but_o by_o no_o mean_n can_v we_o allow_v that_o they_o prefer_v the_o scripture_n to_o that_o great_a office_n exclusive_a of_o the_o spirit_n or_o that_o man_n be_v not_o to_o have_v their_o immediate_a dependence_n upon_o the_o instruction_n discovery_n and_o revelation_n towards_o faith_n and_o good_a life_n so_o much_o at_o this_o time_n time_n note_v i_o have_v not_o make_v any_o considerable_a distinction_n between_o ●e_a rule_n and_o the_o judge_n from_o thy_o judgement_n of_o that_o little_a if_o any_o difference_n that_o be_v between_o they_o and_o my_o adversary_n to_o his_o own_o confusion_n seem_v of_o the_o same_o mind_n for_o notwithstanding_o he_o severe_o &_o taunt_o reflect_v on_o that_o passage_n upon_o i_o in_o my_o former_a book_n yet_o in_o make_v the_o scripture_n both_o rule_n and_o judge_n he_o show_v to_o we_o that_o the_o judge_n &_o the_o rule_n be_v not_o at_o so_o great_a a_o distance_n as_o his_o little_a skill_n in_o philosophy_n will_v have_v render_v it_o and_o herein_o he_o thwart_v d._n stillingfleet_n and_o d._n tillosson_n who_o against_o the_o papist_n assert_v not_o the_o scripture_n to_o be_v the_o judge_n but_o right_o reason_n and_o to_o speak_v the_o truth_n of_o it_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o absurd_a next_o to_o transubstantiation_n then_o that_o the_o scripture_n shall_v be_v the_o judge_n of_o a_o man_n mean_v of_o any_o part_n of_o itself_o that_o be_v if_o it_o be_v apply_v as_o a_o right_a rule_n since_o in_o such_o case_n of_o difference_n no_o scripture_n ever_o yet_o speak_v clear_a than_o its_o first_o text_n and_o the_o question_n lie_v not_o about_o that_o but_o the_o just_a interpretation_n prov._n 8._o doct._n stud._n c._n 2._o p._n 4._o rom._n 2._o 14_o 15._o san._n pag._n 138_o 139_o 140_o 141._o plut._n dron_n prus_n dis_n lib._n 1._o c._n 14._o senec._n epist_n 73._o pag._n 30_o 31._o luth._o tom._n 2._o pol._n 309._o 2._o pet._n mart._n come_v loc_n part_n 1._o cap._n 6._o part_n 2._o cap._n 18._o lib._n 1._o c._n 5._o thes_n 32._o hos_fw-la 6._o 9_o pag._n 34_o ed._n bur._n pag._n 34_o 35._o pa._n 71_o 72_o 73._o levit._fw-la 19_o 18_o 19_o phil._n 3._o 15._o w._n tindal_n work_n pag._n 319._o p._n 80._o b._n jew_n contr_n hard._n p._n 532_o 534._o t._n coll._n work_n p._n 247._o pag._n 36._o de_fw-fr praescr_n heretic_n adoer_n martion_n lib._n 4._o de_fw-fr carne_fw-la christi_fw-la christi_fw-la against_o the_o anabapt●sts_n p._n 1._o pag._n 37._o pag._n 37_o pag._n 38._o pag._n 39_o my_o answ_n pag._n 87._o pag._n 39_o pag._n 40._o ephes_n 16._o 17._o pag._n 41._o pag._n 41_o 42._o pag._n 42._o pag._n 43._o pag._n 45._o but_o j._n f._n be_v not_o that_o babylon_n or_o the_o antichristian_a church_n which_o have_v the_o show_n and_o outside_o but_o not_o the_o life_n and_o power_n of_o godliness_n may_v not_o antichrist_n adorn_v himself_o with_o the_o literal_a profession_n of_o the_o gospel_n certain_o all_o protestant_n have_v accord_v to_o this_o i_o be_o sure_a i._o sprig_n c._n goad_n w._n dell_n i._o saltmarsh_n t._n collier_n yea_o j._n fox_n b._n jewel_n i._o renolds_n d._n willet_n r._n abbot_n and_o a_o nameless_a worthy_a author_n about_o qu._n elizabeth_n time_n in_o his_o voice_n out_o of_o the_o wilderness_n etc._n etc._n allow_v of_o w._n smith_n doctrine_n viz._n that_o the_o mere_o literal_a formal_a and_o fleshly-wise_a church_n not_o regenerate_v into_o the_o image_n and_o li●_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v babylon_n and_o some_o of_o they_o be_v most_o opress_a in_o the_o matter_n which_o i_o omit_v for_o haste_n pag._n
his_o disingenuity_n great_a his_o perversion_n and_o wrest_n about_o his_o key_n pretend_v to_o open_v our_o word_n detect_v pag._n 389._o chap._n fourteen_o of_o reflection_n on_o person_n and_o thing_n pag._n 397._o chap._n xv._n his_o several_a gross_a miscarriage_n sum_v and_o further_o observe_v p._n 420._o author_n &_o testimony_n occasional_o cite_v in_o defence_n of_o this_o discourse_n r._n allen_n pag_n 16._o ambrose_n p._n 371._o d._n amesius_n p._n 98._o arnobius_n p._n 21._o augustin_n p._n 15_o 130_o 285_o 360_o 361._o d._n barnes_n p._n 129_o 234_o 292._o h._n barrow_n p._n 176._o m._n barker_n p._n 247._o t._n beza_n p._n 96_o 97_o 333._o j._n bradford_n p._n 48_o 227._o t._n brooks_n p._n 247_o 383._o brownist_n p._n 176._o h._n bullinger_n p._n 115_o 143_o 245_o 292_o 360._o j._n calvin_n p._n 46_o 92_o 93_o 96_o 245._o j._n camero_n p._n 358._o j._n cann_n p._n 153_o 176._o j._n caryl_n p._n 129_o 172_o 247._o s._n castalio_n p._n 36_o 172._o d._n cave_n p._n 22._o j._n chrysostom_n p._n 46_o 118._o m._n t._n cicero_n p._n 92_o 93._o j._n clarius_n p._n 36_o 43_o 172_o 357_o 372._o clemens_n alex._n p._n 22_o 173_o 292_o 329._o p._n codurcus_n p._n 172_o 358_o 376._o t._n collier_n p._n 73_o 114_o 120_o 154_o 202_o 215_o 236_o 316_o 341_o 377._o council_n laod._n p._n 36_o 37._o g._n cradock_n p._n 43_o 246._o d._n cradock_n p._n 277._o j._n dallaeus_n p._n 78._o w._n dell_n p._n 45_o 46_o 75_o 120_o 153_o 215_o 230_o 246._o annot._n cert_n divine_n p._n 368_o 372._o doctor_n and_o student_n p._n 91_o 93._o b._n downham_n p._n 293._o j._n drusius_n p._n 43_o 172_o 357_o 358_o 376._o epictetus_n p._n 93._o erasmus_n p._n 36_o 43_o 96_o 97_o 325_o 333_o 358._o ethiopic_a version_n p_o 331._o d._n everard_n p._n 200_o 239_o 247_o 285._o eusebius_n pamph._n p._n 21_o 22_o p._n fagius_n p._n 326_o 360._o farellus_n p._n 378._o d._n feat_o p._n 118._o mart._n finch_n p._n 342._o c._n goad_n p_o 128_o 200_o 214_o 226_o 235_o 315_o 341._o w._n greenham_n p._n 217._o h._n grotius_n p._n 36_o 295._o b._n hall_n p._n 383._o d._n hammond_n p_o 295_o 378._o c._n j._n hobert_n p._n 91._o p._n d._n huetius_n p._n 378._o e._n hutter_n p._n 329._o jerome_n p._n 379._o b._n jewel_n p._n 113_o 314._o irenaeus_n p._n 291._o ignatius_n p._n 340._o justin_n mart._n p._n 340_o 359._o lactantius_n p._n 92._o h._n latimer_n p._n 46_o 50_o 51._o m._n luther_n p._n 46_o 47_o 98_o 120._o lutheran_n p._n 43._o p._n martyr_n p._n 98_o 107_o 118_o 360._o d._n h._n moor_n p._n 358_o 374._o s._n munsterus_n p._n 172_o 357._o origen_n p._n 292_o 379._o d._n owen_n p._n 172_o w._n parker_n p._n 54._o d._n patrick_n p._n 277._o w._n perkins_n p._n 246._o philo_z p._n 172._o j._n philpot_n p._n 47_o 50._o plato_n p._n 329._o plotin_n p._n 172._o plutarch_n p._n 93._o p._n s._n polano_n p._n 37._o j._n robinson_n p._n 176._o a._n sadeel_v p._n 285._o samaritan_n copy_n p._n 326._o b._n sanderson_n p._n 16_o 92_o 93_o c._n c._n sandius_n p._n 78._o scapula_n p._n 329._o seneca_n p._n 93._o w._n sherlock_n p._n 277._o spanish_a translation_n p._n 322._o j._n sprig_n p._n 127_o 201_o 202_o 293_o 315_o 342._o d._n stillingfleet_n p._n 89_o 277._o synesius_n p._n 378._o syriack_n translation_n p._n 331._o theophil_n antiochenus_fw-la p._n 21_o 371._o tertullian_n p._n 21_o 118_o 360._o d._n tillotson_n p._n 89_o 277._o w._n tindall_n p._n 46_o 113_o 115_o 120_o 226_o 234._o l._n valla_n p._n 36._o f._n vatablus_n p._n 36_o 43_o 172_o 357_o 358._o vossius_fw-la p._n 378._o b._n usher_n p._n 16._o waldenses_n p._n 76._o j._n de_fw-fr wessalia_n p._n 418._o j._n wickliff_n p._n 46._o d._n wilkins_n p._n 33_o 226._o r._n woodman_n p._n 341._o n._n zegerus_n p._n 36_o 358._o v._o zwinglius_fw-la p._n 46_o 47._o the_o invalidity_n of_o john_n faldo_n vindication_n of_o his_o book_n call_v quakerism_n no_o christianity_n the_o introduction_n this_o controversy_n not_o of_o choice_n but_o absolute_a necessity_n thus_o continue_v and_o which_o have_v swell_v this_o rejoynder_n beyond_o both_o my_o desire_n and_o expectation_n through_o such_o great_a provocation_n and_o multiply_a wrong_n as_o be_v utter_o inconsistent_a with_o the_o honour_n of_o truth_n to_o put_v up_o and_o which_o require_v our_o serious_a notice_n in_o its_o defence_n be_v begin_v by_o j._n faldo_n a_o nonconforming_a minister_n at_o barnet_n in_o a_o large_a discourse_n entitle_v quakerism_n no_o christianity_n disgu_v as_o i_o have_v hear_v at_o the_o come_n over_o of_o some_o of_o his_o hearer_n to_o the_o way_n we_o profess_v in_o which_o he_o not_o only_o accuse_v we_o of_o the_o black_a error_n but_o pretend_v to_o prove_v every_o charge_n out_o of_o our_o own_o write_n a_o essay_n none_o have_v ever_o yet_o fall_v on_o beside_o himself_o at_o what_o rate_n soever_o he_o prove_v they_o certain_z it_o be_v he_o charge_v we_o home_o and_o manage_v it_o with_o equal_a disingenuity_n this_o it_o be_v my_o lot_n to_o answer_v which_o i_o do_v in_o a_o book_n 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