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gubernacuâ—um_fw-la ad_fw-la ligandâ—_n &_o solvenda_fw-la peccatâ—_n clave_n regni_fw-la coelorum_fw-la primuâ—_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la petrus_n accepit_fw-la quoniam_fw-la nec_fw-la ille_fw-la solus_fw-la sed_fw-la universa_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ligat_fw-la solvitque_fw-la peccata_fw-la s._n peter_n first_o receive_v the_o government_n in_o the_o power_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v but_o not_o he_o alone_o but_o all_o the_o church_n to_o wit_n all_o succession_n and_o age_n of_o the_o church_n vniversa_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la viz._n in_o pastoribus_fw-la solis_fw-la as_o 3._o s._n chrysostom_n in_o episcopis_fw-la &_o presbyteris_fw-la as_o matt._n s._n jerome_n the_o whole_a church_n as_o it_o be_v represent_v in_o the_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n the_o same_o be_v affirm_v by_o pudicit_fw-la tertullian_n 27._o s._n cyprian_n deus_fw-la s._n chrysostome_n trinit_fw-la s._n hilary_n 42._o primasius_n and_o general_o by_o the_o father_n of_o the_o elder_a and_o divine_n of_o the_o middle_a 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i_o will_v also_o endeavour_v to_o promote_v their_o interest_n ****_o there_o be_v only_o one_o pretence_n of_o a_o popular_a election_n in_o scripture_n it_o be_v of_o the_o seven_o that_o be_v set_v over_o the_o widow_n *_o but_o first_o this_o be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n this_o be_v no_o cure_n of_o soul_n this_o be_v no_o divine_a institution_n it_o be_v in_o the_o dispensation_n of_o money_n it_o be_v by_o command_n of_o the_o apostle_n the_o election_n be_v make_v and_o they_o may_v recede_v from_o their_o own_o right_n it_o be_v to_o satisfy_v the_o multitude_n it_o be_v to_o avoid_v scandal_n which_o in_o the_o dispensation_n of_o money_n may_v easy_o arise_v it_o be_v in_o a_o temporary_a office_n it_o be_v with_o such_o limitation_n and_o condition_n as_o the_o apostle_n prescribe_v they_o it_o be_v out_o of_o the_o number_n of_o the_o 70_o that_o the_o election_n be_v make_v if_o we_o may_v believe_v s._n epiphanus_n so_o that_o they_o be_v presbyter_n before_o this_o choice_n and_o last_o it_o be_v only_o a_o nomination_n of_o seven_o man_n the_o determination_n of_o the_o business_n and_o the_o authority_n of_o rejection_n be_v still_o in_o the_o apostle_n and_o indeed_o the_o whole_a power_n who_o we_o may_v appoint_v over_o this_o business_n &_o after_o all_o this_o there_o can_v be_v no_o hurt_n do_v by_o the_o objection_n especial_o since_o clear_o and_o indubious_o the_o election_n of_o bishop_n and_o presbyter_n be_v in_o the_o apostle_n own_o person_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v s._n ignatius_n of_o evodias_n evodias_n be_v first_o appoint_v to_o be_v your_o governor_n or_o bishop_n antioch_n by_o the_o apostle_n and_o themselves_o do_v commit_v it_o to_o other_o that_o be_v bishop_n as_o in_o the_o instance_n before_o reckon_v thus_o the_o case_n stand_v in_o scripture_n 2._o in_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n it_o go_v according_a to_o the_o same_o law_n and_o practise_v apostolical_a the_o people_n do_v not_o may_v not_o choose_v the_o minister_n of_o holy_a church_n 13._o so_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o people_n must_v not_o choose_v those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v promote_v to_o the_o priesthood_n the_o prohibition_n extend_v to_o their_o nonelection_n of_o all_o the_o superior_a clergy_n bishop_n and_o presbyter_n but_o who_o then_o must_v elect_v they_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a determine_v that_o for_o in_o 16_o and_o 17_o canon_n the_o council_n forbid_v any_o promotion_n of_o clerk_n to_o be_v make_v but_o by_o the_o bishop_n of_o that_o church_n where_o they_o be_v first_o ordain_v which_o clear_o reserve_v to_o the_o bishop_n the_o power_n of_o retain_v or_o promote_a all_o his_o clergy_n *_o 3._o all_o ordination_n be_v make_v by_o bishop_n alone_o as_o i_o have_v already_o prove_v now_o let_v this_o be_v confront_v with_o the_o practice_n of_o primitive_a christendom_n that_o no_o presbyter_n may_v be_v ordain_v sine_fw-la titulo_fw-la without_o a_o particular_a charge_n which_o be_v always_o custom_n and_o at_o last_o grow_v to_o be_v a_o law_n in_o the_o council_n of_o chalcedon_n and_o we_o shall_v perceive_v that_o the_o ordainer_n be_v the_o only_a chooser_n for_o then_o to_o ordain_v a_o presbyter_n be_v also_o to_o give_v he_o a_o charge_n and_o the_o patronage_n of_o a_o church_n be_v not_o a_o lie_v inheritance_n but_o part_n of_o the_o bishop_n cure_n for_o he_o have_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o care_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o the_o diocese_n as_o i_o have_v already_o show_v and_o therefore_o when_o s._n jerome_n according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o christendom_n 62._o have_v specify_v some_o particular_a ordination_n or_o election_n of_o presbyter_n by_o bishop_n as_o how_o himself_o be_v make_v priest_n by_o paulinus_n and_o paulinus_n by_o epiphanius_n of_o cyprus_n nepotian_n gaudeat_fw-la episcopus_fw-la judicio_fw-la svo_fw-la cum_fw-la tale_n christo_fw-la elegerit_fw-la sacerdotes_fw-la let_v the_o bishop_n rejoice_v in_o his_o own_o act_n have_v choose_v such_o worthy_a priest_n for_o the_o service_n of_o christ._n thus_o s._n ambrose_n give_v intimation_n that_o the_o dispense_n all_o the_o office_n in_o the_o clergy_n be_v sole_o in_o the_o bishop_n 44._o haec_fw-la spectet_fw-la sacerdos_n &_o quod_fw-la cuique_fw-la congruat_fw-la id_fw-la officij_fw-la deputet_fw-la let_v the_o bishop_n observe_v these_o rule_n and_o appoint_v every_o one_o his_o office_n as_o be_v best_a answerable_a to_o his_o condition_n and_o capacity_n and_o theodoret_n report_v of_o leontius_n the_o bishop_n of_o antioch_n 32._o how_o be_v a_o arian_n adversarios_fw-la recti_fw-la dogmatis_fw-la suscipiens_fw-la licèt_fw-la turpem_fw-la habentes_fw-la vitam_fw-la ad_fw-la presbyteratûs_fw-la tamen_fw-la ordinem_fw-la &_o diaconatûs_fw-la evexit_fw-la eos_n autem_fw-la qui_fw-la universis_fw-la virtutibus_fw-la ornabantur_fw-la &_o apostolica_fw-la dogmata_fw-la defendebant_fw-la absque_fw-la 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32._o audiant_fw-la cum_fw-la populo_fw-la non_fw-la ut_fw-la quis_fw-la quam_fw-la judex_fw-la resideat_fw-la sed_fw-la unuâ—_n cuique_fw-la de_fw-la svo_fw-la affectu_fw-la habeat_fw-la examen_fw-la &_o eligat_fw-la quem_fw-la sequatur_fw-la so_o may_v presbyter_n be_v present_a so_o they_o may_v judge_v not_o for_o other_o but_o for_o themselves_o and_o so_o may_v the_o people_n be_v present_a and_o ancient_o be_v so_o and_o therefore_o counsel_n be_v always_o keep_v in_o open_a church_n ubi_fw-la populus_fw-la judicat_fw-la not_o for_o other_o but_o for_o themselves_o not_o by_o external_a sentence_n but_o internal_a conviction_n so_o s._n ambrose_n expound_v himself_o in_o the_o forecited_a allegation_n there_o be_v no_o considerable_a objection_n against_o this_o discourse_n but_o that_o of_o the_o first_o council_n of_o jerusalem_n where_o the_o apostle_n and_o elder_n do_v meet_v together_o to_o determine_v of_o the_o question_n of_o circumcision_n for_o although_o in_o the_o 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