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A41211 An appeal to Scripture & antiquity in the questions of 1. the worship and invocation of saints and angels 2. the worship of images 3. justification by and merit of good works 4. purgatory 5. real presence and half-communion : against the Romanists / by H. Ferne ... Ferne, H. (Henry), 1602-1662. 1665 (1665) Wing F787; ESTC R6643 246,487 512

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our_o translate_n that_o one_o verse_n of_o the_o commandment_n translation_n other_o needless_a exception_n against_o our_o translation_n which_o in_o his_o zeal_n to_o image-worship_n he_o brand_v with_o the_o note_n of_o fraud_n and_o double_a deal_n the_o one_o in_o translate_n pesel_n a_o grave_a image_n which_o shall_v be_v idol_n as_o he_o will_v make_v we_o believe_v and_o all_o because_o the_o septuagint_n have_v it_o in_o this_o place_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o the_o latin_a idolum_fw-la so_o he_o will_v have_v we_o contrary_a to_o the_o hebrew_n greek_a &_o latin_a text_n so_o he_o p._n 91._o but_o what_o if_o here_o the_o septuagint_n render_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o parallel_n place_n levit._n 26.1_o it_o render_v the_o same_o hebrew_n word_n pesel_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o latin_a sculptile_n and_o who_o can_v deny_v that_o this_o signify_v a_o grave_a image_n and_o if_o their_o latin_a sculptile_n be_v not_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o signify_v statue_n and_o may_v well_o be_v understand_v it_o be_v the_o word_n which_o the_o septuagint_n use_v in_o that_o history_n of_o baal_n 1_o king_n 10.27_o the_o lat._n the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d statuam_fw-la baal_n sic_fw-la vul._n lat._n image_n or_o statue_n of_o baal_n mr._n spencer_n for_o fear_v the_o word_n image_n shall_v be_v here_o supply_v will_v make_v it_o refer_v to_o a_o female_a deity_n but_o let_v he_o show_v that_o any_o female_a deity_n come_v under_o the_o name_n of_o baal_n or_o baalim_fw-la he_o acknowledge_v that_o in_o 1_o king_n 19.18_o to_o which_o this_o place_n of_o the_o roman_n relate_v it_o be_v that_o bow_v not_o the_o knee_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d therefore_o no_o female_a idol_n be_v here_o mean_v but_o because_o the_o false_o suppose_a deity_n be_v acknowledge_v and_o worship_v by_o bow_v the_o knee_n to_o his_o image_n s._n paul_n more_o express_o and_o elegant_o put_v it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 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mouth_n of_o heathen_n i_o neither_o worship_v the_o very_a image_n debeo_fw-la aug._n in_o ps_n 113._o nec_fw-la si_fw-la mulachrum_fw-la colo_fw-la sed_fw-la per_fw-la effigiem_fw-la ejus_fw-la rei_fw-la signum_fw-la intueor_fw-la quam_fw-la colere_fw-la debeo_fw-la nor_o a_o devil_n but_o in_o the_o corporal_a representation_n i_o look_v upon_o the_o sign_n of_o that_o thing_n which_o i_o ought_v to_o worship_n video_fw-la aug._n in_o ps_n 96._o non_fw-la illum_fw-la lapidem_fw-la a●t_fw-la simulachrum_fw-la colo_fw-la quod_fw-la est_fw-la sine_fw-la sensu_fw-la sed_fw-la adoro_fw-la quod_fw-la video_fw-la &_o seruio_fw-la ei_fw-la quem_fw-la non_fw-la video_fw-la and_o in_o another_o place_n i_o do_v not_o worship_v that_o stone_n or_o that_o image_n which_o be_v without_o sense_n but_o i_o adore_v what_o i_o see_v and_o serve_v he_o who_o i_o do_v not_o see_v thus_o can_v the_o heathen_n plead_v and_o profef_n in_o excuse_n of_o their_o worship_a image_n the_o romanist_n have_v 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apostle_n that_o will_v set_v down_o with_o do_v one_o of_o they_o only_o shall_v not_o do_v his_o duty_n it_o be_v object_v p._n 356._o if_o it_o be_v give_v so_o to_o the_o church_n in_o general_n then_o may_v the_o command_n be_v satisfy_v and_o perform_v so_o be_v it_o the_o church_n provide_v certain_a person_n to_o receive_v and_o exempt_v all_o the_o rest_n in_o his_o answer_n to_o this_o we_o may_v see_v the_o giddiness_n of_o man_n brain_n when_o set_v against_o the_o apparent_a truth_n of_o god_n word_n if_o we_o take_v the_o sense_n say_v he_o according_a to_o the_o common_a strain_n of_o doctor_n every_o particular_a will_v be_v oblige_v by_o the_o word_n except_o you_o eat_v and_o especial_o sece_v that_o s._n 11._o 1_o cor_fw-la 11._o paul_n extend_v this_o matter_n of_o communion_n to_o each_o particular_a this_o be_v one_o truth_n he_o so_o much_o strain_v against_o above_o notwithstanding_o those_o doctor_n and_o s._n paul_n that_o every_o particular_a man_n be_v oblige_v but_o how_o and_o to_o what_o to_o eat_v and_o drink_v that_o be_v express_a both_o in_o 6._o of_o joh._n and_o 1_o cor._n 11._o but_o disjunctive_o as_o he_o say_v elsewhere_o p._n 350._o that_o be_v to_o eat_v or_o drink_v here_o be_v the_o giddiness_n and_o vanity_n of_o wilful_a error_n to_o make_v alimitation_n or_o gloss_n clean_o contrary_a to_o the_o text_n for_o our_o saviour_n word_n oblige_v to_o these_o act_n conjunctive_o eat_v and_o drink_v thrice_o in_o joh._n 6._o and_o the_o apostle_n saint_n paul_n thrice_o conjunctive_o eat_v and_o drink_v 1_o cor._n 11._o second_o in_o answer_n to_o the_o former_a objection_n he_o grant_v it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o apostle_n to_o exempt_v any_o of_o the_o twelve_o from_o concur_v to_o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o nation_n p._n 356._o if_o he_o will_v have_v this_o pertinent_a he_o shall_v add_v but_o it_o be_v in_o their_o power_n to_o exempt_v some_o of_o the_o twelve_o from_o do_v the_o whole_a duty_n or_o several_a act_n enjoin_v by_o our_o saviour_n that_o if_o one_o of_o they_o teach_v only_o another_o baptize_v only_o and_o so_o all_o partial_o concur_v to_o the_o perform_v our_o saviour_n command_n it_o have_v be_v sufficient_a he_o will_v not_o sure_o say_v this_o yet_o dare_v defend_v it_o in_o their_o church_n exempt_n the_o people_n from_o the_o one_o part_n of_o duty_n enjoin_v they_o by_o our_o saviour_n he_o subjoin_v it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o church_n power_n to_o exempt_v any_o one_o from_o this_o precept_n by_o have_v it_o perform_v of_o other_o christian_n appoint_v by_o her_o authority_n 357._o yet_o their_o church_n take_v power_n to_o exempt_v from_o one_o part_n drink_v his_o bloodshed_n which_o lie_v under_o the_o command_n and_o obligation_n as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o of_o eat_v three_o he_o grant_v here_o another_o truth_n to_o the_o acknowledgement_n of_o his_o impertinency_n above_o where_o he_o instance_a in_o the_o freedom_n of_o receive_v priesthood_n and_o marriage_n to_o imply_v a_o liberty_n of_o receive_v or_o not_o receive_v the_o cup_n but_o here_o he_o grant_v this_o sacrament_n be_v not_o leave_v free_a as_o marriage_n and_o priesthood_n be_v without_o a_o divine_a precept_n that_o every_o christian_a sometime_o receive_v it_o p._n 357._o this_o be_v fair_a but_o see_v the_o obstinacy_n still_o and_o giddiness_n of_o wilful_a error_n that_o eat_v only_o be_v sufficient_a because_o our_o saviour_n when_o he_o express_v himself_o in_o the_o singular_a number_n attribute_n eternal_a life_n to_o it_o he_o that_o cate_v i_o shall_v live_v by_o i_o joh._n 6.57_o nay_o that_o the_o word_n you_o eat_v and_o drink_v v._o 53._o can_v include_v a_o necessity_n of_o both_o kind_n to_o every_o particular_a person_n without_o contradiction_n to_o this_o text_n so_o he_o p._n 358_o 359._o as_o if_o one_o shall_v reason_v if_o it_o be_v true_a that_o he_o who_o be_v bear_v of_o the_o spirit_n shall_v enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n than_o can_v the_o text_n joh._n 3.5_o unless_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v of_o water_n and_o spirit_n include_v a_o necessity_n of_o both_o nor_o when_o the_o scripture_n require_v repent_v and_o believe_v mar._n 1._o that_o can_v include_v a_o necessity_n of_o both_o for_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n without_o contradiction_n to_o the_o text_n joh._n 3._o ult_n where_o one_o only_o be_v mention_v and_o life_n attribute_v to_o it_o he_o that_o believe_v in_o i_o have_v everlasting_a life_n again_o it_o may_v be_v say_v that_o eat_v be_v sometime_o mention_v alone_o in_o that_o chapter_n as_o answerable_a to_o the_o occasion_n of_o the_o discourse_n manna_n and_o bread_n from_o heaven_n and_o as_o fit_a to_o set_v out_o the_o reception_n of_o faith_n which_o at_o the_o same_o time_n
his_o disciple_n and_o imitater_n they_o 〈◊〉_d they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d love_v they_o worthy_o which_o be_v the_o cultus_fw-la dilectionis_fw-la as_o st._n augustine_n style_v it_o above_o unto_o julian_n reproach_v the_o christian_n that_o they_o worship_v miserable_a man_n 〈◊〉_d cyr._n l._n 6._o contra_fw-la julianum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o he_o call_v the_o martyr_n st._n cyril_n answer_v we_o do_v not_o worship_v they_o with_o any_o divine_a or_o religious_a worship_n but_o with_o that_o of_o affection_n observance_n and_o honour_n or_o as_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d imply_v a_o honour_n convenient_a and_o proper_a for_o they_o and_o by_o his_o follow_a discourse_n it_o appear_v wherein_o that_o honour_n stand_v viz._n in_o a_o reverend_a respect_n they_o have_v to_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d repository_n where_o their_o bone_n or_o remainder_n of_o their_o body_n be_v lay_v and_o celebrate_v their_o praise_n and_o virtue_n we_o ibid._n we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n crown_v they_o say_v he_o with_o the_o great_a honour_n as_o those_o that_o have_v fight_v valiant_o and_o obtain_v the_o victory_n he_o add_v the_o example_n of_o the_o grecian_n who_o every_o year_n celebrate_v the_o fame_n of_o those_o that_o valiant_o fight_v against_o the_o persian_n so_o this_o perpetual_a memory_n of_o the_o martyr_n be_v afford_v they_o as_o a_o reward_n due_a to_o their_o fortitude_n add_v to_o these_o what_o epiphanius_n say_v be_v put_v to_o express_v himself_o in_o this_o point_n 〈◊〉_d epiph._n haer._n 74._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d upon_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o collyridians_n the_o bless_a virgin_n say_v he_o be_v to_o be_v honour_v but_o she_o be_v not_o give_v to_o we_o for_o worship_n reservetur_fw-la amb._n in_o ro._n 1._o ver_fw-la 21._o &_o 25._o relicto_n domino_fw-la conservos_fw-la adorant_fw-la quasi_fw-la plus_fw-la sit_fw-la quod_fw-la deo_fw-la reservetur_fw-la and_o afterward_o let_v mary_n be_v have_v in_o honour_n but_o let_v the_o lord_n be_v worship_v also_o it_o be_v observable_a what_o st._n ambrose_n say_v upon_o the_o pretence_n of_o the_o heathen_a worship_n which_o he_o call_v miseram_fw-la excusationem_fw-la a_o miserable_a excuse_n leave_v the_o lord_n they_o adore_v their_o fellow-servant_n and_o then_o their_o pretence_n or_o excuse_n be_v that_o they_o reserve_v more_o or_o a_o high_a sort_n of_o worship_n for_o god_n himself_o wherein_o we_o may_v read_v the_o romish_a excuse_n and_o what_o st._n adorandi_fw-la honorem_fw-la dei_fw-la creaturae_fw-la defer_v ibid._n aug._n l._n 10._o c._n 4._o multa_fw-la de_fw-la cultu_fw-la divino_fw-la usurpata_fw-la honoribus_fw-la deferri_fw-la humanis_fw-la sive_fw-la humilitate_fw-la nimiâ_fw-la sive_fw-la perniciosa_fw-la adulatione_fw-la ità_fw-la tamen_fw-la ut_fw-la i●s_fw-la quibus_fw-la deferunruntur_fw-la homines_fw-la habeantur_fw-la qui_fw-la dicuntur_fw-la colendi_fw-la &_o venerandi_fw-la si_fw-la an●em_fw-la multum_fw-la i●s_fw-la additur_fw-la &_o adorandi_fw-la ambrose_n say_v there_o of_o their_o yield_v the_o honour_n of_o god_n to_o the_o creature_n st._n august_n more_o lare_o unfold_v the_o matter_n in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o city_n of_o god_n where_o speak_v of_o worship_n and_o several_a sort_n of_o it_o many_o thing_n use_v in_o and_o belong_v to_o divine_a worship_n be_v yield_v up_o to_o the_o honour_v of_o man_n whether_o out_o of_o too_o much_o humility_n or_o pernicious_a flattery_n yet_o so_o as_o they_o to_o who_o such_o honour_n be_v yield_v be_v still_o hold_v to_o be_v man_n as_o romanist_n say_v they_o acknowledge_v they_o as_o creature_n do_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o god_n who_o be_v say_v to_o be_v honour_v reverence_v and_o when_o much_o be_v yield_v to_o they_o adore_v last_o st._n hierom_n be_v put_v to_o it_o by_o vigilantius_n dominum_fw-la hier._n ad_fw-la riparium_fw-la nos_fw-la 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victory_n and_o praise_n in_o give_v god_n thanks_o for_o they_o and_o in_o propound_v their_o example_n for_o imitation_n these_o out_o of_o the_o father_n above_o cite_v especial_o out_o of_o st._n augustine_n to_o these_o we_o may_v add_v st._n greg._n nyssen_n in_o his_o praise_n of_o the_o martyr_n theodorus_n speak_v to_o the_o martyr_n he_o say_v 〈◊〉_d nyss_n orat._n de_fw-fr theod._n martyr_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d we_o hold_v this_o assembly_n for_o thou_o but_o how_o or_o to_o what_o purpose_n to_o adore_v our_o common_a lord_n and_o make_v full_a commemoration_n of_o thy_o victorious_a combat_n 〈◊〉_d bas_n orat_fw-la in_o 40_o mar●_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d so_o his_o brother_n st._n basil_n in_o that_o very_a oration_n of_o the_o 40_o martyr_n wherein_o the_o romanist_n think_v they_o have_v a_o fit_a testimony_n for_o invocation_n we_o shall_v examine_v it_o in_o the_o next_o section_n give_v such_o reason_n why_o they_o celebrate_v the_o memory_n of_o martyr_n 1._o because_o the_o honour_n give_v to_o the_o best_a of_o our_o fellow_n servant_n be_v the_o sign_n and_o demonstration_n of_o our_o good_a will_n and_o respect_n towards_o our_o common_a lord_n where_o we_o have_v two_o word_n fellow_n servant_n and_o common_a lord_n that_o exclude_v the_o romish_a religious_a worship_n give_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n as_o we_o see_v it_o by_o those_o word_n exclude_v in_o the_o testimony_n of_o st._n aug._n ibid._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n above_o cite_v 2_o because_o that_o by_o remember_v the_o virtue_n of_o the_o martyr_n we_o stir_v up_o to_o imitation_n do_v not_o say_v we_o stir_v up_o to_o invoke_v or_o worship_v they_o again_o to_o the_o martyr_n praise_n and_o our_o imitation_n he_o say_v ibid._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ibid._n think_v and_o call_v the_o martyr_n bless_v where_o the_o latin_a translation_n have_v venerare_fw-la martyrem_fw-la which_o though_o it_o may_v be_v allow_v in_o a_o good_a sense_n yet_o be_v it_o to_o be_v translate_v otherwise_o and_o mark_v the_o end_n of_o such_o celebrate_n of_o the_o martyr_n praise_n and_o virtue_n that_o thou_o may_v so_o become_v a_o martyr_n in_o resolution_n and_o preparation_n of_o mind_n fit_v as_o it_o be_v for_o it_o by_o often_o think_v and_o speak_v he_o happy_a now_o let_v we_o examine_v the_o testimony_n which_o the_o 13._o the_o bel._n l._n 1._o de_fw-fr beat_v sanct._n c._n 13._o cardinal_n bring_v out_o of_o antiquity_n for_o religious_a worship_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n in_o these_o as_o also_o in_o those_o which_o he_o allege_v for_o the_o next_o point_n of_o invocation_n antiquity_n romanist_n unfaithful_a in_o their_o allegation_n out_o of_o antiquity_n there_o be_v great_a cause_n to_o challenge_v his_o honesty_n or_o his_o diligence_n for_o first_o these_o testimony_n for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v too_o general_a they_o speak_v a_o honour_n give_v to_o saint_n and_o angel_n but_o short_a of_o that_o which_o the_o 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expression_n import_v not_o the_o advocation_n of_o word_n or_o plead_n but_o of_o deed_n and_o act_v the_o father_n set_v the_o one_o woman_n against_o the_o other_o the_o great_a good_a that_o come_v by_o one_o against_o the_o great_a evil_n that_o be_v cause_v by_o the_o other_o 3._o gen._n 3._o as_o the_o scripture_n set_v the_o woman_n seed_n against_o the_o effect_n of_o the_o woman_n transgression_n the_o meaning_n of_o irenaeus_n in_o call_v the_o bless_a virgin_n eve_n advocate_n be_v that_o she_o be_v a_o instrument_n or_o mean_n in_o bring_v forth_o the_o saviour_n of_o mankind_n the_o only_a mediator_n between_o god_n &_o man._n st._n liberaret_fw-la st._n ambr._n de_fw-fr obitu_fw-la theodosii_fw-la foeminam_fw-la visitavit_fw-la christus_fw-la in_o maria._n visitata_fw-la est_fw-la maria_n ut_fw-la evam_n liberaret_fw-la ambrose_n may_v explain_v that_o speech_n of_o irenaeus_n by_o what_o he_o say_v to_o like_a purpose_n but_o more_o clear_o christ_n say_v he_o visit_v 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ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la qui_fw-la fecit_fw-la omne_fw-la &_o nomen_fw-la domini_fw-la jesus_n christi_fw-la invocans_fw-la that_o the_o church_n do_v do_v any_o thing_n he_o speak_v of_o miraculous_a cure_n do_v then_o by_o invocation_n of_o angel_n nor_o by_o incantation_n but_o pure_o and_o manifest_o direct_v prayer_n to_o the_o lord_n that_o make_v all_o and_o invocate_a the_o name_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n fevardentius_n his_o gloss_n here_o will_v not_o help_v say_v the_o father_n mean_v invocation_n of_o such_o evil_a spirit_n as_o the_o former_a heretic_n use_v for_o if_o the_o church_n have_v use_v to_o the_o work_n of_o those_o cure_n the_o invocation_n of_o good_a angel_n the_o same_o father_n can_v not_o have_v condemn_v their_o invocation_n and_o so_o absolute_o deny_v without_o any_o mention_n or_o limitation_n of_o such_o use_n in_o the_o church_n all_o angelical_a invocation_n can_v not_o have_v bind_v up_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n as_o we_o see_v 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spirit_n as_o he_o acknowledge_v yet_o all_o our_o vow_n prayer_n thanksgiving_n be_v to_o be_v direct_v unto_o god_n the_o lord_n of_o all_o by_o our_o high_a priest_n great_a than_o all_o angel_n and_o he_o give_v several_a reason_n against_o invocation_n of_o angel_n because_o say_v he_o to_o invoke_v angel_n without_o know_v they_o better_a then_o we_o do_v as_o to_o their_o nature_n condition_n office_n be_v little_a agreeable_a to_o reason_n but_o say_v he_o if_o we_o have_v sufficient_a knowledge_n of_o they_o and_o their_o condition_n yet_o propi●ios_fw-la yet_o hoc_fw-la cohibebit_fw-la ne_fw-la quis_fw-la preces_fw-la ●udeat_fw-la offer_n nisi_fw-la soli_fw-la domino_fw-la deo_fw-la qui_fw-la omnibus_fw-la abunde_fw-la suffi●it_fw-la per_fw-la servatorem_fw-la nostrum_fw-la dei_fw-la fill_v they_o angelo_n habet_fw-la satis_fw-la propi●ios_fw-la this_o will_v withhold_v any_o from_o dare_v to_o offer_v up_o prayer_n to_o any_o save_o god_n alone_o who_o abundant_o be_v 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to_o commend_v ourselves_o this_o be_v the_o most_o that_o fall_v from_o st._n aug._n yet_o this_o come_v short_a of_o what_o bell._n will_v have_v he_o say_v that_o they_o be_v then_o invocate_v at_o the_o altar_n for_o he_o have_v say_v express_o they_o be_v not_o invocate_v and_o that_o we_o invocate_v god_n there_o to_o enable_v we_o to_o imitate_v they_o as_o above_z in_o the_o two_o place_n out_o of_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr civit._n dei_fw-la what_o then_o be_v this_o commend_v ourselves_o to_o their_o prayer_n it_o can_v be_v direct_a invocation_n for_o that_o he_o deny_v but_o a_o invocate_a of_o god_n or_o beg_v of_o he_o the_o benefit_n of_o their_o prayer_n as_o we_o shall_v see_v more_o below_o we_o have_v find_v the_o cardinal_n very_o unfaithful_a hitherto_o in_o his_o testimony_n of_o antiquity_n we_o will_v add_v two_o more_o he_o cite_v chrys_n 5._o hom._n in_o matt._n which_o be_v plain_o of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_a saint_n it_o speak_v of_o the_o woman_n of_o canaan_n come_v of_o herself_o to_o christ_n without_o sue_v to_o any_o of_o the_o disciple_n to_o entreat_v for_o she_o chrys_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d chrys_n and_o this_o say_v he_o i_o speak_v not_o that_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o entreat_v or_o sue_v to_o the_o saint_n the_o other_o place_n be_v that_o which_o we_o note_v above_o how_o corrupt_o it_o be_v cite_v by_o the_o cardinal_n for_o the_o worship_n of_o saint_n afterward_o it_o be_v again_o allege_a by_o he_o for_o vow_n make_v to_o saint_n it_o be_v out_o of_o euseb_n de_fw-fr praepar_fw-la evang._n l._n 13._o c._n 11._o where_o as_o we_o note_v above_o in_o stead_n of_o make_v vow_n and_o prayer_n at_o the_o monument_n of_o martyr_n the_o interpreter_n have_v render_v it_o make_v vow_n to_o they_o that_o be_v to_o the_o martyr_n and_o this_o in_o three_o time_n allege_v this_o testimony_n the_o cardinal_n will_v not_o see_v our_o four_o general_n that_o practice_n of_o invocation_n which_o begin_v in_o the_o 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pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la flavianus_n let_v flavianus_n pray_v for_o we_o it_o be_v a_o speak_n of_o their_o judgement_n of_o flavianus_n his_o be_v in_o bliss_n and_o a_o wish_v of_o the_o benefit_n of_o his_o intercession_n thus_o we_o find_v in_o theodoret_n history_n of_o the_o life_n of_o many_o father_n such_o closure_n of_o most_o of_o they_o i_o wish_v and_o desire_n that_o by_o their_o intercession_n i_o may_v obtain_v the_o divine_a help_n some_o think_v there_o be_v addition_n and_o insertion_n make_v in_o this_o work_n auxilium_fw-la theod._n in_o sanct._n patrum_fw-la hist_o rogo_fw-la &_o quaeso_fw-la ut_fw-la ipsorum_fw-la intercessione_n divinum_fw-la consequer_n auxilium_fw-la but_o whether_o these_o be_v theodoret_n word_n or_o any_o other_o they_o do_v speak_v the_o wish_n of_o have_v the_o benefit_n and_o effect_n of_o the_o saint_n prayer_n put_v up_o for_o the_o church_n below_o but_o this_o be_v not_o invocation_n 2._o in_o that_o practice_n we_o meet_v with_o for_o 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