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the_o person_n of_o theodoret_n or_o rather_o with_o the_o book_n itself_o which_o 54._o which_o niceph._n l._n 44_o c._n 54._o nicephorus_n do_v not_o reckon_v up_o among_o theodoret_n work_n when_o he_o give_v a_o account_n of_o all_o his_o book_n these_o 8_o book_n de_fw-fr curandis_fw-la graecorum_n affectibus_fw-la be_v not_o mention_v etc._n mention_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n those_o which_o he_o write_v be_v these_o etc._n etc._n and_o withal_o your_o learned_a cardinal_n know_v well_o that_o what_o theodoret_n if_o this_o book_n be_v he_o do_v build_v with_o one_o hand_n he_o pull_v down_o with_o another_o as_o to_o this_o point_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n or_o angel_n for_o in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o 2_o do_v chap._n of_o s_n t_o paul_n to_o the_o colossian_n vers_fw-la 18_o let_v no_o man_n beguile_v you_o of_o your_o reward_n in_o a_o voluntary_a humility_n and_o worship_v of_o angel_n i_o say_v theodoret_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o this_o place_n cut_v off_o the_o sinew_n and_o foundation_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n invocation_n he_o show_v how_o some_o jewish_a christian_n in_o phrygia_n and_o pisidia_n be_v zealous_a of_o the_o law_n do_v worship_n angel_n by_o who_o the_o law_n be_v give_v and_o build_v temple_n to_o s_o t_o michael_n and_o other_o and_o that_o this_o course_n continue_v long_o among_o they_o etc._n they_o bin._n council_n lacd_a tom._n 1._o can_v 35._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o that_o in_o the_o 4_o the_o century_n a_o council_n of_o bishop_n in_o laodicea_n the_o metropolis_n of_o phrygia_n near_o neighbour_n to_o colosse_n do_v express_o forbid_v the_o worship_n of_o angel_n call_v it_o idolatry_n that_o christian_n ought_v not_o to_o leave_v the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o depart_v and_o call_v upon_o the_o angel_n and_o make_v assembly_n and_o if_o any_o be_v find_v to_o be_v conversant_a in_o this_o hide_a idolatry_n let_v he_o be_v accurse_v now_o this_o voluntary_a humility_n which_o s_n to_o paul_n mention_n refer_v to_o that_o humble_a pretence_n that_o sinner_n be_v not_o worthy_a to_o draw_v near_o to_o god_n themselves_o but_o by_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n &_o angel_n intrude_a into_o those_o thing_n which_o he_o have_v not_o see_v vain_o puff_v up_o in_o his_o fleshly_a mind_n say_v the_o apostle_n that_o be_v say_v theodoret_n cogitationibus_fw-la theodoret_n propriis_fw-la utens_fw-la rationibus_fw-la &_o cogitationibus_fw-la use_v his_o own_o reason_n and_o imagination_n etc._n etc._n now_o say_v he_o the_o angelos_n the_o synodus_fw-la volens_fw-la veteri_fw-la illi_fw-la morbo_fw-la mederi_fw-la cavit_fw-la ne_fw-la precarentur_fw-la angelos_n synod_n of_o laodicea_n desire_v to_o cure_v this_o old_a decease_n forbid_v they_o to_o pray_v unto_o angel_n and_o you_o will_v grant_v if_o we_o must_v not_o pray_v to_o angel_n neither_o to_o the_o saint_n for_o you_o have_v derive_v chief_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n from_o that_o of_o angel_n phil._n 20._o phil._n ibid._n cap._n 20._o bellarmin_n have_v answer_v this_o passage_n of_o theodoret_n and_o of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n and_o the_o text_n of_o the_o apostle_n together_o namely_o etc._n namely_o apostolum_n damnare_fw-la haeresin_fw-la simenis_fw-la magi_n qui_fw-la decuit_fw-la angelos_n quasi_fw-la minres_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o the_o apostle_n condemn_v the_o heresy_n of_o simon_n magus_n who_o teach_v like_a plato_n that_o the_o angel_n shall_v be_v worship_n as_o lesser_a deity_n and_o that_o none_o can_v please_v the_o invisible_a god_n but_o by_o the_o angel_n and_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o council_n propria_fw-la council_n concilium_fw-la non_fw-la damnat_fw-la quamvis_fw-la venerationem_fw-la ang._n sed_fw-la quae_fw-la deo_fw-la propria_fw-la do_v not_o condemn_v all_o worship_n of_o angel_n but_o only_o such_o veneration_n as_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n theoph._n observe_v the_o incongruity_n of_o this_o answer_n as_o to_o several_a particular_n he_o say_v the_o council_n condemn_v not_o all_o veneration_n of_o angel_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n the_o supreme_a deity_n and_o yet_o according_a to_o his_o own_o relation_n simon_n magas_n and_o the_o jewish_a christian_n that_o worship_v angel_n do_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o the_o supreme_a deity_n but_o only_o as_o subordinate_a intercessor_n and_o s_o t_o paul_n and_o the_o council_n of_o laoduea_n condemn_v this_o that_o in_o voluntary_a humility_n they_o shall_v deprive_v themselves_o of_o that_o privilege_n to_o come_v to_o god_n themselves_o and_o so_o make_v way_n unto_o he_o by_o the_o intercession_n of_o angel_n the_o apostle_n therefore_o and_o the_o council_n sorbid_v this_o inferior_a worship_n as_o theodoret_n observe_v angelos_n observe_v ne_fw-fr precarentur_fw-la angelos_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o pray_v to_o the_o angel_n to_o make_v way_n for_o they_o unto_o the_o great_a god_n and_o in_o the_o next_o chap._n of_o s._n paul_n to_o the_o colossian_n vers_fw-la 17._o the_o apostle_n
auxilium_fw-la memory_n eodem_fw-la deo_fw-la invocato_fw-la in_o auxilium_fw-la the_o same_o lord_n be_v call_v upon_o for_o our_o assistance_n mark_v it_o god_n be_v call_v upon_o for_o his_o assistance_n that_o we_o may_v imitate_v the_o martyr_n virtue_n etc._n virtue_n lib._n 20._o centra_fw-la faustum_n manich._n c._n 21._o quod_fw-la offertur_fw-la deo_fw-la offertur_fw-la etc._n etc._n again_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o which_o be_v offer_v at_o the_o shrine_n and_o memory_n of_o the_o martyr_n be_v offer_v to_o god_n phil._n this_o be_v true_a as_o to_o sacrifice_n which_o belong_v only_o to_o god_n but_o not_o as_o to_o our_o prayer_n theoph._n our_o prayer_n be_v christian_a sacrifice_n ascend_v up_o like_o the_o incense_n and_o the_o evening_n sacrifice_n psal_n 142._o 2._o offer_v unto_o god_n thanksgiving_n and_o pay_v thy_o vow_n unto_o the_o most_o high_a and_o call_v upon_o i_o in_o the_o time_n of_o trouble_n say_v the_o prophet_n david_n psal_n 50._o 14_o 15._o so_o tertullian_n phrase_v it_o pura_fw-la it_o lib._n ad_fw-la scapulam_fw-la sacrificamus_fw-la deo_fw-la pro_fw-la salute_v imperat._n sed_fw-la prece_fw-la pura_fw-la we_o sacrifice_v unto_o god_n for_o the_o health_n of_o the_o emperor_n but_o with_o pure_a prayer_n and_o in_o his_o apology_n for_o christian_n chap._n 30._o etc._n 30._o offero_fw-la opimam_fw-la &_o majorem_fw-la hostiam_fw-la orationem_fw-la de_fw-la carne_fw-la pudica_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o offer_v to_o god_n say_v he_o a_o more_o excellent_a sacrifice_n even_o prayer_n proceed_v out_o of_o pure_a lip_n and_o a_o innocent_a heart_n and_o from_o the_o holy_a ghost_n so_o clemens_n alexandrinus_n lib._n 7._o stromatum_fw-la etc._n stromatum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n we_o honour_v god_n by_o prayer_n and_o send_v up_o this_o best_a and_o most_o holy_a sacrifice_n our_o prayer_n therefore_o be_v the_o most_o acceptable_a sacrifice_n from_o we_o to_o god_n of_o your_o transcendent_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n we_o may_v god_n willing_a treat_v hereafter_o again_o in_o his_o first_o tom._n lib._n de_fw-fr ver_fw-la a_o relig_n cap._n ult_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o service_n of_o the_o body_n may_v be_v due_a to_o prince_n the_o service_n of_o the_o soul_n to_o god_n he_o tell_v we_o far_o etc._n far_o ecce_fw-la unum_fw-la deum_fw-la colo_fw-la quisquis_fw-la angel_n diligit_fw-la hunc_fw-la deum_fw-la certus_fw-la sum_fw-la etc._n etc._n behold_v i_o worship_v one_o god_n the_o fountain_n of_o all_o thing_n and_o the_o angel_n that_o love_v god_n i_o be_o sure_a they_o love_v i_o whosoever_o abide_v in_o he_o and_o can_v hear_v the_o prayer_n of_o man_n in_o he_o he_o hear_v i_o and_o in_o he_o he_o help_v i_o deo_fw-la i_o religat_fw-la ergo_fw-la nos_fw-la religio_fw-la uni_fw-la omnipotenti_fw-la deo_fw-la religion_n therefore_o bind_v i_o to_o one_o omnipotent_a god_n the_o good_a father_n often_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o bless_a saint_n and_o angel_n expect_v no_o such_o service_n from_o we_o but_o express_o say_v he_o they_o direct_v we_o to_o pray_v to_o god_n etc._n god_n psal_n 96._o tom._n 8._o omnes_fw-la sancti_fw-la &_o angeli_fw-la etc._n etc._n ad_fw-la ejus_fw-la cultum_fw-la etc._n etc._n all_o the_o saint_n and_o angel_n seek_v his_o glory_n who_o they_o love_v and_o they_o study_v to_o draw_v all_o who_o they_o love_v to_o his_o worship_n and_o to_o his_o contemplation_n and_o to_o pray_v to_o he_o to_o this_o effect_n elsewhere_o he_o tell_v we_o script_n we_o lib._n de_fw-fr pastoribus_fw-la c._n 8._o sunt_fw-la montes_fw-la boni_fw-la sc_fw-la autores_fw-la divin_fw-fr script_n the_o author_n of_o holy_a scripture_n be_v good_a hill_n and_o when_o we_o look_v unto_o they_o they_o will_v send_v you_o back_o to_o god_n in_o who_o stand_v your_o help_n contristabuntur_fw-la help_n si_fw-mi in_o iis_fw-la spem_fw-la posueris_fw-la contristabuntur_fw-la if_o you_o put_v confidence_n in_o they_o they_o will_v grieve_v the_o 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confession_n chap._n 42._o s_o t_z augustin_n speak_v full_o against_o invocation_n of_o angel_n tibi_fw-la angel_n quem_fw-la invenirem_fw-la qui_fw-la i_o reconciliaret_fw-la tibi_fw-la who_o may_v i_o find_v say_v he_o to_o reconcile_v i_o to_o thou_o o_o god_n shall_v i_o go_v to_o the_o angel_n with_o what_o prayer_n with_o what_o sacrament_n many_o desirous_a to_o return_v to_o thou_o and_o distrust_v themselves_o as_o i_o hear_v have_v try_v this_o way_n and_o have_v fall_v into_o the_o curiosity_n of_o vision_n and_o become_v meet_v for_o delusion_n and_o now_o after_o all_o that_o you_o have_v hear_v out_o of_o s_o t_o augustin_n i_o pray_v judge_n whether_o bellarmin_n have_v reason_n to_o appeal_v to_o he_o for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n phil._n notwithstanding_o all_o your_o insult_a triumph_n what_o have_v be_v bring_v by_o bellarmin_n out_o of_o s_o t_o augustin_n have_v not_o be_v impertinent_a but_o you_o forget_v one_o notable_a passage_n which_o bellarmin_n quote_v out_o of_o s_o t_o augustin_n in_o his_o 18_o the_o chapter_n of_o this_o book_n and_o controversy_n you_o promise_v to_o take_v these_o testimony_n into_o consideration_n in_o your_o own_o season_n but_o you_o have_v forget_v it_o 10._o it_o aljuvet_n nos_fw-la cypr._n orationibus_fw-la suis_fw-la lib._n 7._o the_o baptism_n contra_fw-la donatist_n c._n 10._o it_o be_v a_o formal_a invocation_n let_v cyprian_n help_v we_o with_o his_o prayer_n theoph._n it_o be_v no_o invocation_n of_o cyprian_a but_o s_o t_o augustins_n desire_v put_v up_o to_o god_n that_o the_o bless_a martyr_n cyprian_n prayer_n may_v benefit_v he_o it_o imply_v the_o supplication_n of_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n for_o the_o people_n of_o god_n in_o general_n and_o his_o prayer_n to_o god_n that_o he_o with_o other_o may_v reap_v the_o fruit_n of_o their_o prayer_n phil._n i_o will_v conclude_v with_o beauty_n last_o argument_n the_o miracle_n that_o have_v attest_v this_o doctrine_n whereby_o the_o saint_n and_o martyr_n have_v demonstrate_v that_o they_o do_v hear_v our_o prayer_n and_o can_v help_v we_o theoph._n for_o a_o general_a answer_n hereunto_o we_o have_v already_o show_v out_o of_o s_o t_o augustin_n that_o miracle_n may_v be_v do_v at_o the_o monument_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o themselves_o may_v appear_v unto_o votary_n in_o their_o temple_n and_o yet_o know_v nothing_o neither_o of_o the_o miracle_n or_o the_o apparition_n god_n by_o the_o ministry_n of_o angel_n work_v miracle_n and_o cure_n at_o their_o shrine_n for_o a_o testimony_n unto_o the_o faith_n for_o which_o these_o martyr_n die_v phil._n this_o general_a answer_n will_v not_o serve_v for_o the_o learned_a cardinal_n prove_v out_o of_o the_o 3_o d_o book_n of_o s_n to_o bernard_n life_n that_o the_o holy_a father_n preach_v at_o tholouse_n against_o such_o who_o deny_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n before_o all_o the_o congregation_n bless_a loaf_n of_o bread_n with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o offer_v this_o trial_n of_o his_o doctrine_n that_o if_o it_o be_v true_a all_o who_o have_v disease_n in_o the_o great_a city_n eat_v of_o these_o loaf_n shall_v be_v heal_v and_o so_o multitude_n be_v heal_v of_o their_o infirmity_n here_o you_o see_v god_n do_v attest_v the_o doctrine_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n by_o miracle_n theoph._n bernard_n live_v in_o the_o 12_o the_o century_n and_o so_o the_o testimony_n run_v low_a but_o withal_o the_o abbot_n who_o write_v those_o four_o book_n as_o a_o legend_n of_o bernard_n life_n suit_v the_o fabulous_a credulous_a humour_n of_o these_o time_n he_o make_v he_o a_o wonder-worker_n thro-out_a i_o well_o remember_v that_o above_o 30_o year_n since_o be_v a_o novice_n in_o the_o university_n and_o read_v this_o account_n of_o s_n to_o bernard_n life_n i_o can_v not_o choose_v but_o abhor_v the_o notorious_a forgery_n of_o the_o writer_n i_o pray_v read_v and_o judge_n phil._n i_o see_v you_o will_v not_o be_v convince_v and_o therefore_o
heaven_n upon_o the_o son_n of_o man_n but_o through_o the_o hand_n and_o conveyance_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n lay_v all_o this_o together_o and_o you_o will_v soon_o perceive_v how_o by_o a_o strange_a emulation_n of_o her_o votary_n the_o superstition_n be_v improve_v even_o into_o the_o high_a degree_n of_o blasphemy_n phil._n our_o church_n be_v not_o concern_v in_o these_o folly_n of_o private_a person_n and_o superstitious_a votary_n theoph._n you_o have_v pass_v a_o just_a censure_n upon_o they_o yet_o you_o will_v find_v they_o derive_v their_o imagination_n from_o other_o before_o they_o of_o great_a authority_n in_o your_o church_n you_o may_v turn_v canisius_n the_o jesuit_n catechism_n set_v forth_o in_o a_o large_a folio_n under_o the_o licence_n of_o pope_n pius_n the_o five_o in_o his_o second_o chap._n of_o the_o lord_n prayer_n and_o the_o angel_n gabriel_n salutation_n quaest_n 18_o among_o other_o he_o cite_v out_o of_o damascen_n bernard_n and_o anselm_n these_o passage_n etc._n passage_n domina_fw-la peccatoris_fw-la orationem_fw-la accipe_fw-la to_o solum_fw-la gaudii_fw-la spem_fw-la habentis_fw-la etc._n etc._n o_o lady_n receive_v the_o prayer_n of_o a_o sinner_n who_o do_v fervent_o love_v and_o worship_v thou_o as_o his_o only_a hope_n and_o joy_n and_o pledge_v of_o salvation_n shake_v off_o the_o burden_n of_o my_o sin_n and_o subdue_v temptation_n and_o guide_v i_o in_o holiness_n that_o by_o thy_o conduct_n i_o may_v obtain_v eternal_a bliss_n tuum_fw-la bliss_n invituperabilem_fw-la deipara_n spem_fw-la tuam_fw-la etc._n etc._n omnipotens_fw-la auxtlium_fw-la tuum_fw-la i_o shall_v be_v save_v under_o thy_o irreprovable_a hope_n have_v your_o protection_n as_o a_o breastplate_n and_o your_o omnipotent_a assistance_n bless_a mother_n of_o god_n open_a unto_o we_o the_o gate_n of_o mercy_n that_o trust_v in_o thou_o we_o may_v not_o err_v and_o may_v be_v free_v from_o all_o evil_n humani_fw-la evil_n tu_fw-la enimes_fw-la 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