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A15082 A replie to Iesuit Fishers answere to certain questions propou[n]ded by his most gratious Matie: King Iames By Francis White D: of DivĀ· deane of Carlile, chaplaine to his Matie. Hereunto is annexed, a conference of the right: R:B: of St Dauids wth the same Iesuit* White, Francis, 1564?-1638.; Laud, William, 1573-1645.; Baylie, Richard, b. 1585 or 6, attributed name.; Cockson, Thomas, engraver.; Fisher, John, 1569-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 25382; ESTC S122241 841,497 706

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〈◊〉_d his_o prayer_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d maria_n and_o one_o other_o prayer_n to_o the_o bless_a virgin_n our_o adversary_n be_v repute_v learned_a by_o his_o own_o part_n and_o perhaps_o he_o have_v the_o gift_n of_o work_a wonder_n i_o entreat_v he_o out_o of_o his_o own_o vast_a read_n or_o else_o from_o father_n 〈◊〉_d his_o storehouse_n to_o parallel_v this_o romish_a liberal_a practice_n with_o some_o history_n out_o of_o antiquity_n legisse_fw-la and_o if_o he_o please_v further_o to_o demonstrate_v that_o the_o ancient_a church_n have_v tax_n indulgentiarum_fw-la and_o 〈◊〉_d for_o sum_n of_o money_n upon_o particular_a crime_n to_o be_v solue_v to_o the_o publican_n of_o the_o ecclesiastical_a roman_a tribute_n in_o lieu_n of_o pardon_n or_o for_o absolution_n he_o shall_v by_o disclose_v to_o the_o world_n in_o what_o old_a wall_n or_o vault_n such_o uncouth_a jewel_n be_v to_o be_v find_v high_o advance_v the_o reputation_n of_o his_o roman_a penance_n and_o pardon_n and_o for_o my_o part_n he_o shall_v have_v leave_n to_o squeeze_v from_o his_o spiritual_a child_n what_o money_n he_o can_v under_o that_o title_n whereas_o in_o the_o mean_a time_n he_o and_o his_o fellow_n by_o false_a pretence_n of_o antiquity_n do_v but_o cheat_v their_o simple_a lay-catholikes_a of_o their_o coin_n whereof_o no_o small_a sum_n be_v transport_v out_o of_o the_o kingdom_n by_o such_o like_a gloss_n and_o trick_n four_o for_o want_v of_o better_a testimony_n the_o obiector_n will_v prove_v the_o ancient_a use_n of_o pardon_n out_o of_o lapse_v tertullian_n for_o if_o this_o man_n be_v fall_v from_o the_o church_n oppose_v they_o than_o they_o be_v in_o use_n in_o that_o age_n i_o answer_v the_o adversary_n may_v have_v learn_v of_o pamelius_n 192_o that_o the_o indulgence_n which_o tertullian_n opose_v be_v the_o same_o whereof_o cyprian_n speak_v epist._n 10_o 11_o 12._o to_o wit_n relaxation_n of_o canonical_a censure_n and_o paenance_n to_o adulterer_n veniam_fw-la and_o other_o notorious_a sin_n upon_o the_o request_n of_o martyr_n be_v in_o prison_n and_o yet_o alive_a now_o it_o seem_v to_o this_o father_n to_o be_v unlawful_a both_o that_o the_o martyr_n shall_v be_v intreatour_n and_o that_o the_o church_n shall_v grant_v absolution_n punishment_n tosuch_o person_n or_o use_v relaxation_n of_o censure_n impose_v by_o the_o discipline_n of_o those_o time_n and_o it_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v that_o this_o father_n speak_v of_o live_a martyr_n and_o not_o of_o martyr_n defunct_a and_o of_o release_n censure_n and_o forgive_a fault_n in_o this_o world_n only_o and_o not_o in_o purgatory_n but_o the_o adversary_n be_v so_o far_o from_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v pope_n pardon_n in_o tertullians_n day_n that_o he_o can_v prove_v the_o same_o to_o have_v have_v any_o be_v in_o the_o day_n of_o peter_n lombard_n or_o hugo_n victor_n 5._o jesuit_fw-la i_o shall_v not_o need_v particular_o to_o refel_v the_o vulgar_a objection_n against_o this_o doctrine_n which_o all_o proceed_v upon_o mistake_v and_o impugn_v what_o we_o never_o dream_v of_o they_o prove_v that_o christ_n only_o die_v for_o the_o world_n and_o redeem_v mankind_n and_o not_o any_o saint_n who_o doubt_v thereof_o that_o we_o be_v sanctify_v and_o wash_v from_o the_o stain_n of_o sin_n by_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o lamb_n not_o of_o any_o saint_n we_o confess_v it_o they_o bring_v the_o testimony_n of_o s._n leo_n and_o of_o s._n augustine_n that_o the_o saint_n receive_v crown_n of_o god_n give_v not_o crown_n unto_o other_o but_o only_o christ_n we_o never_o do_v nor_o will_v deny_v it_o that_o only_o in_o christ_n we_o die_v to_o sin_n and_o be_v raise_v again_o soul_n and_o body_n unto_o eternal_a life_n we_o never_o teach_v the_o contrary_a for_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o saint_n have_v not_o virtue_n to_o redeem_v the_o world_n nor_o to_o satisfy_v for_o the_o guilt_n of_o sin_n nor_o to_o take_v man_n out_o of_o the_o power_n of_o darkness_n nor_o to_o justify_v soul_n by_o infusion_n of_o grace_n nor_o to_o purchase_v for_o man_n crown_n of_o glory_n nor_o to_o raise_v man_n from_o life_n to_o death_n but_o only_o show_v they_o be_v available_a unto_o one_o transitory_a effect_n which_o man_n may_v be_v they_o fervent_a obtain_v by_o their_o own_o industry_n join_v with_o divine_a grace_n to_o wit_n the_o remission_n of_o temporal_a pain_n which_o virtue_n also_o come_v from_o the_o merit_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o most_o precious_a blood_n in_o and_o by_o the_o satisfaction_n of_o saint_n apply_v to_o work_v the_o aforesaid_a temporal_a releasement_n from_o which_o temporal_a servitude_n the_o child_n of_o god_n may_v through_o his_o gracious_a assistance_n by_o good_a work_n redeem_v themselves_o or_o by_o satisfaction_n of_o their_o fellow_n citizen_n and_o saint_n be_v redeem_v though_o this_o temporary_a redemption_n compare_v with_o the_o redemption_n of_o christ_n deserve_v not_o that_o title_n answer_n it_o be_v a_o error_n to_o ascribe_v any_o effect_n to_o the_o operation_n of_o man_n which_o be_v proper_a to_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n but_o to_o make_v satisfaction_n to_o divine_a justice_n for_o any_o punishment_n of_o sin_n eternal_a or_o temporal_a be_v a_o effect_n proper_a to_o the_o death_n of_o christ._n for_o the_o holy_a scripture_n teach_v express_o that_o all_o spiritual_a redemption_n be_v immediate_o wrought_v by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n heb._n 1._o 3._o when_o he_o have_v by_o himself_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d purge_v our_o sin_n col._n 2._o 15._o triumph_v over_o they_o in_o himself_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o whereas_o our_o adversary_n restrain_v these_o and_o the_o like_a place_n to_o the_o stain_n and_o eternal_a guilt_n of_o sin_n the_o apostle_n col._n 2._o 14._o affirm_v that_o christ_n blot_v out_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o hand_n write_v of_o decree_n contain_v in_o the_o law_n christi_fw-la that_o be_v against_o we_o and_o take_v it_o out_o of_o the_o way_n nail_v it_o to_o his_o cross_n and_o that_o by_o himself_o heb._n 1.3_o col._n 2.15_o but_o the_o temporary_a punishment_n of_o sin_n be_v contain_v within_o the_o latitude_n of_o the_o law_n levit._n 26.14_o deut._n 28.15_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o christ_n jesus_n our_o saviour_n immediate_o and_o by_o himself_o and_o not_o mediate_o by_o the_o passion_n of_o saint_n wipe_v out_o and_o remove_v out_o of_o the_o way_n the_o malediction_n of_o temporary_a punishment_n as_o well_o as_o the_o guilt_n of_o eternal_a when_o daniel_n himself_o one_o of_o the_o most_o holy_a prophet_n pray_v for_o the_o remission_n of_o his_o own_o sin_n and_o of_o the_o transgression_n of_o his_o people_n and_o make_v supplication_n to_o god_n for_o remission_n of_o temporal_a pain_n and_o plague_n he_o offer_v not_o his_o own_o merit_n or_o satisfaction_n but_o say_v dan._n 9.7_o oh_o lord_n righteousness_n belong_v unto_o thou_o but_o