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A07647 Immediate addresse vnto God alone First deliuered in a sermon before his Maiestie at Windsore. Since reuised and inlarged to a just treatise of inuocation of saints. Occasioned by a false imputation of M. Antonius De Dominis vpon the authour, Richard Montagu. Montagu, Richard, 1577-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 18039; ESTC S112845 131,862 253

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i_o entreat_v and_o beseech_v you_o sir_n by_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n that_o you_o speak_v unto_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o colleague_n and_o fellow_n confessor_n my_o brethren_n and_o master_n in_o christ_n and_o entreat_v they_o that_o whosoever_o shall_v first_o obtain_v the_o crown_n of_o martyrdom_n ask_v and_o procure_v forgivennesse_n of_o this_o sin_n unto_o our_o sister_n candida_n and_o numeria_n this_o indeed_o cyprian_n have_v by_o way_n of_o relation_n remember_v the_o practice_n of_o another_o man_n but_o he_o himself_o in_o another_o place_n out_o of_o his_o own_o judgement_n make_v this_o request_n for_o himself_o mementote_n tunc_fw-la mej_fw-la cum_fw-la in_o vobis_fw-la virginitas_fw-la honoratur_fw-la and_o he_o make_v this_o agreement_n and_o compact_n with_o cornelius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n and_o holy_a martyr_n that_o whether_o of_o they_o twain_o shall_v depart_v this_o life_n first_o shall_v remember_v his_o companion_n leave_v behind_o and_o recommend_v 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and_o not_o consummate_v in_o the_o flesh_n i_o insist_v not_o on_o this_o it_o be_v not_o now_o question_v by_o the_o opposite_n but_o far_o they_o teach_v that_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n make_v also_o particular_a intercession_n for_o we_o that_o be_v some_o of_o they_o for_o some_o of_o we_o here_o which_o be_v in_o my_o opinion_n though_o no_o point_n of_o faith_n for_o which_o i_o will_v burn_v yet_o true_a and_o certain_a in_o all_o credibilitie_n but_o how_o it_o be_v limit_v or_o to_o be_v enlarge_v how_o and_o in_o what_o sort_n and_o sense_n it_o be_v true_a may_v appear_v more_o particular_o upon_o the_o process_n three_o that_o saint_n and_o holy_a angel_n in_o heaven_n may_v be_v joint_o or_o several_o pray_v unto_o many_o by_o many_o by_o one_o or_o some_o one_o by_o any_o one_o or_o by_o many_o which_z according_o their_o people_n put_v in_o frequent_a practice_n chant_v it_o every_o where_o ora_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n that_o oracle_n of_o 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we_o absolute_o rely_v at_o least_o ultimatè_fw-fr in_o that_o kind_n it_o be_v also_o use_v for_o to_o call_v unto_o as_o to_o help_v assistant_n or_o advocate_n in_o suit_n when_o in_o time_n of_o trouble_n and_o necessity_n we_o have_v cause_n to_o come_v and_o call_v on_o god_n direct_v our_o prayer_n ever_o primâ_fw-la intention_n unto_o he_o when_o therefore_o we_o talk_v of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o dispute_v concern_v pray_v unto_o saint_n we_o must_v understand_v invocation_n so_o as_o direct_v unto_o they_o only_o as_o assistant_n and_o mediator_n only_o of_o intercession_n and_o therefore_o not_o to_o be_v invocate_v or_o call_v upon_o in_o the_o same_o sense_n and_o term_n as_o god_n almighty_a be_v the_o author_n and_o donor_n of_o every_o good_a give_v nor_o to_o be_v implore_v as_o christ_n jesus_n be_v the_o only_a mediator_n of_o redemption_n and_o
angel_n nor_o invocation_n of_o a_o angel_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mere_o by_o way_n of_o wish_n and_o desire_n not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o way_n of_o supplication_n jacob_n relate_v what_o the_o angel_n have_v do_v for_o he_o all_o his_o life_n time_n and_o wish_v he_o will_v do_v as_o much_o for_o they_o his_o grand_a child_n ephraim_n and_o manasses_n the_o son_n of_o joseph_n a_o wish_n or_o desire_n that_o such_o or_o such_o a_o good_a thing_n and_o happy_a success_n may_v be_v be_v no_o prayer_n unto_o the_o thing_n that_o it_o will_v be_v so_o unless_o we_o imagine_v and_o as_o well_o we_o may_v that_o balaam_n pray_v unto_o his_o own_o soul_n when_o in_o the_o self_n same_o form_n that_o jacob_n wish_v here_o he_o desire_v moriatur_fw-la anima_fw-la mea_fw-la morte_fw-la justorum_fw-la let_v my_o soul_n die_v the_o death_n of_o the_o righteous_a and_o let_v my_o latter_a end_n be_v like_a unto_o he_o or_o david_n pray_v unto_o the_o angel_n when_o he_o say_v let_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o lord_n persecute_v they_o he_o pray_v that_o it_o may_v be_v not_o to_o he_o to_o do_v it_o no_o more_o do_v jacob_n in_o this_o place_n three_o have_v it_o be_v a_o express_a and_o direct_a prayer_n let_v it_o be_v read_v unto_o unless_o of_o such_o a_o angel_n which_o only_o may_v be_v pray_v unto_o thou_o angel_n which_o have_v deliver_v i_o bless_v they_o yet_o our_o persuader_n be_v never_o the_o near_o but_o out_o of_o the_o way_n for_o this_o angel_n may_v be_v pray_v unto_o and_o yet_o not_o every_o angel_n so_o nor_o yet_o saint_n invocate_v according_o for_o howsoever_o saint_n be_v unto_o other_o angel_n this_o angel_n be_v paramount_n to_o they_o infinitis_fw-la parasangis_fw-la and_o transcendent_a unto_o all_o angel_n beside_o he_o be_v angelus_n foederis_fw-la that_o angel_n of_o the_o covenant_n in_o the_o prophet_n not_o angelus_n domini_fw-la a_o angel_n of_o the_o lord_n but_o angelus_n dominus_fw-la the_o lord_n that_o angel_n christ_n jesus_n himself_o no_o create_a angel_n that_o jacob_n mean_v and_o intend_v here_o who_o indeed_o have_v preserve_v he_o in_o all_o his_o way_n and_o keep_v he_o safe_a in_o his_o go_v out_o and_o return_v home_o from_o esau_n his_o brother_n laban_n his_o uncle_n in_o his_o own_o country_n and_o in_o a_o foreign_a land_n that_o find_v he_o in_o bethel_n and_o speak_v with_o he_o there_o ose_n 12.4_o that_o angel_n mention_v former_o chap._n 31._o verse_n 11._o and_o explain_v verse_n 13._o i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o bethel_n where_o thou_o anoint_v the_o pillar_n and_o where_o thou_o vow_v a_o vow_n unto_o i_o thus_o the_o father_n of_o old_a understand_v that_o scripture_n it_o as_o the_o father_n also_o of_o old_a understand_v it_o from_o the_o first_o infancy_n of_o the_o church_n not_o of_o any_o create_a angel_n custos_fw-la but_o of_o christ_n god_n creator_n of_o man_n and_o angel_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o 71._o page_n 71._o a_o angel_n god_n and_o lord_n say_v justine_n the_o martyr_n dispute_v with_o trypho_n the_o jew_n appear_v unto_o abraham_n in_o humane_a shape_n be_v see_v of_o jacob_n in_o the_o form_n and_o figure_n of_o man_n wrestle_a with_o he_o as_o be_v record_v in_o his_o return_n from_o mesopotamia_n at_o such_o time_n as_o he_o meet_v with_o his_o brother_n esau_n and_o at_o his_o go_v up_o to_o bethel_n and_o more_o precise_o comprehend_v all_o other_o apparition_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v he_o the_o same_o and_o no_o other_o who_o be_v see_v of_o and_o appear_v unto_o the_o patriarch_n of_o old_a god_n and_o also_o lord_n of_o all_o howsoever_o call_v angel_n there_o thus_o that_o holy_a writer_n vir_fw-la apostolicorum_fw-la temporum_fw-la who_o prick_v fast_o on_o upon_o the_o apostle_n time_n if_o he_o do_v not_o know_v some_o of_o they_o in_o the_o flesh_n athanasius_n have_v a_o discourse_n unto_o the_o purpose_n and_o therein_o be_v peremptory_a that_o he_o be_v christ_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n 260._o orat._n 4._o 〈…〉_o 260._o if_o so_o be_v that_o the_o patriarch_n jacob_n in_o blessing_n his_o nephew_n ephraim_n and_o manasses_n say_v thus_o the_o angel_n that_o deliver_v i_o out_o of_o all_o adversity_n and_o nourish_v i_o from_o my_o youth_n up_o until_o this_o day_n bless_v these_o child_n yet_o he_o do_v not_o there_o couple_n or_o compose_v any_o one_o create_v and_o natural_a angel_n with_o god_n he_o that_o be_v creator_n of_o all_o angel_n nor_o do_v he_o forget_v and_o by_o pass_v he_o of_o who_o he_o have_v be_v nourish_v from_o his_o youth_n up_o until_o then_o that_o be_v god_n and_o desire_v a_o blessing_n for_o his_o nephew_n from_o a_o angel_n but_o in_o phrase_v it_o thus_o that_o have_v deliver_v i_o out_o of_o all_o adversity_n he_o plain_o show_v that_o he_o do_v not_o intend_v any_o create_a angel_n but_o insist_v upon_o the_o ground_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n who_o he_o couple_v with_o the_o father_n in_o pray_v unto_o he_o by_o who_o god_n deliver_v who_o he_o will_v deliver_v know_v that_o he_o be_v as_o sometime_o he_o call_v the_o angel_n of_o the_o great_a counsel_n of_o the_o father_n jacob_n profess_v it_o be_v he_o and_o no_o other_o beside_o he_o that_o have_v deliver_v he_o out_o of_o all_o adversity_n and_o have_v hitherto_o deliver_v he_o and_o bless_v he_o also_o nor_o be_v it_o his_o meaning_n by_o prayer_n to_o obtain_v a_o blessing_n for_o himself_o at_o god_n hand_n and_o to_o put_v over_o his_o nephew_n to_o be_v bless_v by_o angel_n but_o he_o pray_v unto_o he_o to_o bless_v his_o nephew_n unto_o who_o himself_o have_v sometime_o say_v i_o will_v not_o let_v thou_o go_v except_o thou_o bless_v i_o and_o without_o all_o question_n this_o be_v god_n as_o himself_o profess_v and_o affirm_v plain_o i_o have_v see_v god_n face_n to_o face_n it_o may_v seem_v this_o champion_n of_o christ_n undertake_v his_o master_n cause_n in_o this_o as_o he_o do_v in_o the_o main_a against_o some_o angel_n adorer_n in_o those_o day_n so_o full_o he_o discourse_v upon_o the_o point_n at_o this_o day_n deny_v by_o victorellus_n and_o other_o beu-pleader_n for_o invocation_n and_o worship_n of_o saint_n &_o angel_n so_o frequent_a with_o they_o for_o after_o other_o discourse_n he_o conclude_v thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v therefore_o none_o other_o but_o the_o lord_n god_n himself_o that_o appear_v and_o say_v unto_o he_o loe_o i_o be_o with_o thou_o i_o do_v keep_v thou_o and_o preserve_v thou_o in_o thy_o way_n wherein_o thou_o walk_v continual_o i_o can_v father_n enlarge_v upon_o the_o point_n out_o of_o other_o but_o i_o write_v not_o commentary_n nor_o common-place_n in_o opinion_n of_o antiquity_n and_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n christ_n jesus_n be_v that_o angel_n that_o jacob_n mean_v and_o it_o be_v apertè_fw-la false_a and_o a_o forgery_n which_o bellarmine_n avouch_v hic_fw-la apertè_fw-la sanctus_n jacob_n invocavit_fw-la angelum_fw-la in_o opinion_n of_o antiquity_n as_o in_o evidence_n of_o truth_n this_o angel_n be_v not_o create_v spirit_n but_o god_n himself_o last_o at_o least_o if_o he_o be_v a_o angel_n he_o be_v not_o any_o other_o but_o his_o guardian_n angel_n for_o the_o word_n in_o the_o text_n do_v employ_v the_o office_n of_o his_o angel_n guardian_n the_o angel_n that_o have_v keep_v i_o from_o my_o childhood_n unto_o who_o now_o be_v to_o go_v the_o way_n of_o all_o flesh_n he_o may_v intend_v to_o put_v over_o his_o two_o young_a nephew_n the_o son_n of_o joseph_n mistake_v i_o not_o i_o say_v not_o he_o mean_v his_o angel_n guardian_n for_o i_o be_o full_o resolve_v with_o the_o old_a father_n he_o mean_v christ_n but_o to_o suppose_v and_o grant_v he_o be_v a_o angel_n he_o can_v then_o be_v no_o other_o but_o his_o guardian_n angel_n which_o will_v not_o pleasure_v the_o persuader_n in_o their_o plea_n at_o all_o for_o in_o this_o present_a question_n touch_v invocation_n the_o case_n of_o angel_n guardian_n be_v peradventure_o different_a much_o and_o many_o way_n from_o the_o condition_n and_o employment_n of_o they_o at_o large_a the_o conclusion_n be_v then_o jacob_n do_v not_o implore_v the_o help_n or_o patronage_n of_o any_o angel_n here_o purpose_n jacob_n then_o can_v help_v the_o ●_o purpose_n nor_o have_v we_o any_o precedent_n in_o jacobs_n practice_n for_o our_o address_n in_o necessity_n or_o other_o way_n in_o point_n of_o assistance_n by_o invocation_n unto_o saint_n or_o holy_a angel_n whosoever_o nor_o be_v this_o text_n of_o scripture_n to_o the_o purpose_n 〈…〉_o i_o 〈◊〉_d they_o will_v 〈…〉_o they_o proceed_v and_o produce_v the_o five_o of_o job_n verse_n 1._o for_o a_o instance_n or_o precept_n for_o
trouble_v the_o whole_a world_n it_o be_v a_o opinion_n receive_v and_o have_v be_v long_o that_o if_o not_o every_o man_n each_o son_n of_o adam_n yet_o sure_a ●ach_n christian_n man_n regenerate_v by_o water_n and_o the_o holy_a ghost_n at_o least_o from_o the_o day_n of_o his_o regeneration_n and_o new_a birth_n unto_o god_n if_o not_o from_o the_o time_n of_o his_o come_n into_o the_o world_n have_v by_o god_n appointment_n and_o assignation_n a_o angel_n guardian_n to_o attend_v upon_o he_o at_o all_o assay_n in_o all_o his_o way_n at_o his_o go_v forth_o at_o his_o come_n home_o who_o though_o he_o go_v invisible_o and_o assist_v insensible_o as_o his_o nature_n be_v yet_o be_v suppose_v to_o attend_v upon_o we_o to_o be_v present_a with_o we_o continual_o parum_fw-la est_fw-la fecisse_fw-la angelos_n tuos_fw-la fecisti_fw-la &_o custodes_fw-la paruulorum_fw-la who_o continual_o behold_v the_o face_n of_o their_o father_n in_o heaven_n this_o be_v suppose_v to_o be_v so_o understand_v so_o that_o it_o be_v also_o right_o understand_v it_o be_v resolve_v that_o he_o do_v not_o leave_v we_o at_o all_o the_o time_n of_o our_o life_n it_o be_v believe_v that_o he_o be_v evermore_o present_a at_o hand_n and_o near_o unto_o we_o under_o correction_n to_o say_v now_o which_o i_o say_v not_o then_o i_o see_v no_o absurdity_n in_o nature_n no_o incongruitie_n unto_o analogy_n of_o faith_n no_o repugnancy_n at_o all_o unto_o sacred_a scripture_n much_o less_o impiety_n for_o any_o man_n to_o say_v sancte_fw-la angelo_n custos_fw-la ora_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o this_o in_o private_a discourse_n i_o may_v say_v unto_o he_o talk_v upon_o this_o as_o we_o do_v upon_o many_o other_o particular_n dispute_v of_o betwixt_o the_o side_n of_o protestant_n and_o roman_a catholic_n it_o be_v no_o impiety_n it_o can_v be_v no_o foolery_n thus_o to_o resolve_v only_o upon_o the_o former_a supposition_n for_o as_o to_o my_o brother_n or_o to_o my_o friend_n at_o hand_n near_o unto_o i_o i_o may_v say_v good_a friend_n or_o good_a brother_n let_v i_o have_v your_o good_a prayer_n unto_o god_n for_o i_o so_o good_a angel_n keeper_n pray_v for_o i_o suppose_v he_o present_a and_o always_o at_o hand_n as_o if_o he_o be_v guardian_n perpetual_a he_o must_v be_v and_o therefore_o caluine_n observe_v against_o this_o roman_a tenet_n of_o invocation_n saint_n nor_o if_o we_o grant_v invocation_n for_o all_o angel_n as_o well_o as_o this_o will_v th●t_v 〈◊〉_d the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n that_o the_o case_n be_v not_o the_o same_o betwixt_o angel_n and_o saint_n because_o angel_n be_v appoint_v which_o saint_n be_v not_o and_o depute_v to_o protect_v we_o though_o in_o particular_a he_o grant_v no_o angel_n custos_fw-la it_o be_v true_a that_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v a_o point_n of_o foolery_n it_o be_v at_o least_o uncertain_a whether_o they_o be_v and_o in_o what_o manner_n they_o can_v be_v acquaint_v with_o our_o want_n see_v their_o condition_n be_v not_o to_o attend_v we_o and_o they_o be_v remoove_v far_o above_o our_o reach_n and_o call_v it_o though_o for_o they_o we_o grant_v not_o for_o the_o angel_n guardian_n we_o may_v better_o grant_v it_o though_o we_o call_v unto_o they_o never_o so_o often_o or_o so_o loud_a but_o the_o case_n of_o angel_n guardian_n be_v far_o different_a be_v ever_o in_o procinctu_fw-la nigh_o at_o hand_n unto_o we_o continual_o and_o never_o abandon_v we_o all_o our_o day_n if_o myself_o at_o london_n shall_v say_v unto_o a_o friend_n at_o constantinople_n or_o in_o the_o indies_n sir_n help_v i_o i_o may_v be_v laugh_v at_o deserve_o for_o my_o folly_n this_o case_n come_v home_o to_o their_o practice_n of_o invocation_n but_o if_o i_o speak_v unto_o he_o that_o be_v present_a with_o i_o stand_v by_o i_o to_o help_v and_o assist_v i_o i_o commit_v no_o absurdity_n in_o reason_n nor_o in_o piety_n and_o this_o upon_o supposal_n of_o angel_n keeper_n which_o i_o urge_v not_o as_o a_o point_n of_o belief_n 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or_o do_v of_o it_o the_o testimony_n recite_v out_o of_o the_o 5._o and_o 8._o homil._n upon_o saint_n matthew_n and_o 1._o upon_o the_o 1_o thessaly_n do_v speak_v of_o saint_n live_v and_o not_o depart_v and_o so_o be_v not_o to_o purpose_n live_v the_o other_o testimony_n speak_v of_o saint_n live_v or_o ad_fw-la rem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o be_v good_a to_o enjoy_v or_o participate_v the_o prayer_n of_o saint_n and_o he_o instance_v the_o profit_n by_o saint_n peter_n deliver_v out_o of_o prison_n at_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n which_o i_o know_v and_o i_o think_v our_o master_n do_v believe_v be_v of_o the_o church_n militant_a and_o not_o triumphant_a so_o hom._n 44._o in_o gen._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o we_o understand_v belove_v let_v we_o have_v recourse_n unto_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n and_o entreat_v they_o to_o recommend_v we_o to_o god_n but_o as_o i_o say_v he_o mean_v live_v not_o depart_v saint_n as_o interpret_n that_o 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unto_o and_o partake_v of_o their_o impiety_n god_n forbid_v and_o who_o know_v not_o heretic_n have_v ever_o run_v this_o course_n to_o confirm_v their_o impiety_n from_o such_o delusion_n adijcient_a multa_fw-la de_fw-la authoritate_fw-la cujuque_fw-la doctoris_fw-la ●aeretici_fw-la illos_fw-la maximè_fw-la dostrinae_fw-la suae_fw-la sidem_fw-la confirmasse_fw-la mortue_n suscitasse_fw-la debiles_fw-la reformasse_n futura_fw-la significasse_fw-la u●i_fw-la merito_fw-la apostoli_fw-la crederentur_fw-la quasi_fw-la nec_fw-la hoc_fw-la s●riptum_fw-la sit_fw-la venturos_fw-la multos_fw-la qui_fw-la etiam_fw-la virtutes_fw-la maximae●_n ederent_fw-la ad_fw-la fallatiam_fw-la munie●dam_fw-la corruptae_fw-la praedicationis_fw-la 44._o 〈…〉_o 44._o so_o that_o in_o opinion_n of_o tertullian_n it_o be_v no_o safe_a proceed_n by_o this_o mirabiliatian_a course_n to_o justify_v invocation_n of_o saint_n or_o angel_n so_o that_o no_o reason_n but_o to_o embrace_v chrysostom_n resolution_n 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rather_o make_v 〈◊〉_d against_o they_o and_z 〈…〉_o be_v as_o much_o in_o effect_n as_o nemo_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la respondeat_fw-la there_o be_v no_o help_n for_o thou_o in_o any_o one_o of_o they_o therefore_o if_o thou_o call_v it_o be_v to_o no_o purpose_n as_o good_a a_o inducement_n as_o may_v for_o call_v upon_o i_o turn_v thou_o unto_o they_o call_v upon_o they_o though_o never_o so_o loud_o so_o often_o so_o effectual_o it_o be_v in_o vain_a they_o can_v neither_o help_v nor_o hear_v the_o man_n that_o do_v this_o may_v take_v up_o that_o say_n to_o himself_o job_n 19.14_o my_o familiar_a friend_n have_v forget_v i_o and_o well_o take_v up_o that_o say_n for_o if_o that_o speech_n of_o job_n 19.21_o miseremini_fw-la mei_fw-la amici_fw-la mei_fw-la have_v compassion_n upon_o i_o my_o friend_n because_o it_o run_v out_o in_o term_n of_o invocation_n must_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o angel_n of_o god_n as_o our_o great_a master_n do_v pretend_v then_o angel_n those_o very_a 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though_o not_o name_v by_o that_o infamous_a ecebolius_n of_o these_o time_n and_o impious_a renegado_n i_o speak_v what_o i_o know_v the_o unworthy_a archbishop_n of_o spalleto_n in_o a_o public_a audience_n and_o that_o before_o his_o majesty_n at_o windsor_n to_o have_v affirm_v express_o in_o a_o sermon_n mouth_n and_o hope_v to_o evince_v it_o out_o of_o my_o own_o mouth_n that_o there_o be_v no_o cause_n why_o every_o faithful_a man_n shall_v not_o turn_v himself_o unto_o his_o angel_n keeper_n and_o say_v o_o holy_a angel_n keeper_n pray_v for_o i_o i_o do_v avouch_v in_o verbo_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la that_o those_o word_n never_o pass_v the_o hedge_n of_o my_o lip_n i_o never_o speak_v they_o as_o i_o know_v and_o have_v be_v assure_v his_o most_o sacred_a majesty_n can_v well_o remember_v and_o who_o be_v this_o uncircumcised_a philistine_n to_o be_v believe_v before_o the_o lord_n anoint_v the_o truth_n be_v this_o preach_v at_o windsor_n upon_o this_o present_a passage_n call_v upon_o i_o be_v then_o my_o course_n in_o that_o church_n and_o the_o word_n sermo_n diei_fw-la in_o die_fw-la svo_fw-la read_v in_o the_o church_n at_o prayer_n that_o day_n which_o be_v and_o shall_v be_v my_o custom_n most_o what_o to_o preach_v upon_o as_o the_o ancient_n use_v to_o take_v some_o text_n of_o the_o day_n and_o somewhat_o enlarge_n by_o occasion_n upon_o this_o practic_a part_n of_o that_o roman_a faith_n and_o tridentine_a prescription_n for_o invocation_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o show_v the_o folly_n thereof_o in_o process_n fall_v on_o angelical_a intimation_n and_o assistance_n in_o the_o point_n i_o use_v these_o very_a word_n nor_o more_o nor_o few_o purpose_n which_o be_v never_o open_v to_o that_o purpose_n de_fw-fr angelo_n custode_fw-la fortassis_fw-la ampliandum_fw-la which_o so_o speak_v the_o man_n may_v understand_v well_o enough_o for_o i_o speak_v they_o in_o latin_a and_o he_o be_v present_a whatsoever_o else_o be_v speak_v be_v in_o 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man_n be_v not_o alive_a when_o they_o be_v dead_a that_o be_v do_v not_o converse_v with_o man_n then_o as_o sometime_o they_o do_v while_o yet_o they_o live_v natural_o though_o bellarmine_n be_v dispose_v thus_o to_o toy_n and_o t●flle_n s._n augustine_n mean_v serious_o that_o the_o soul_n depart_v be_v not_o interest_v at_o all_o do_v know_v nothing_o at_o all_o of_o the_o passage_n and_o affair_n in_o the_o world_n as_o his_o whole_a discourse_n the_o instance_n of_o his_o mother_n the_o example_n of_o josiah_n well_o declare_v if_o by_o natural_o he_o mean_v ordinary_o as_o it_o seem_v he_o will_v have_v do_v if_o he_o dare_v have_v touch_v it_o because_o he_o straight_o oppose_v supernatural_a interest_n thereunto_o it_o be_v most_o true_a that_o saint_n augustine_n do_v resolve_v that_o ordinary_o they_o meddle_v not_o at_o all_o know_v nothing_o at_o all_o of_o our_o affair_n and_o no_o other_o intercourse_n betwixt_o they_o and_o we_o dispensation_n unless_o by_o some_o 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