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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
saint_n	master_n	sir_n	william_n	2,223	5	10.0026	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A93646	The guilty-covered clergy-man unvailed; in a plain and candid reply unto two bundles of wrath and confusion, wrapt up in one and twenty sheets of paper. The one written by Christopher Fowler and Simon Ford of Reading; the other by William Thomas of Ubley in Somersetshire. Wherein all their malicious slanders and false accusations, which they cast upon the truth, are clean wash'd off; their weapons with which they war against the Lamb, broken over their own heads; and they, with the rest of the tyth-exacting teachers, proved to be the great incendaries, and mis-leaders of these nations. In which also there is made a brief and sober application, to the magistrates, and other inhabitants, within the city of Bristol. / By Thomas Speed, a friend to all that tremble at the Word of the Lord; but an irreconcileable enemy to the mysterious deceit, and monstrous hypocrisie of those that do teach for hire, and divine for money.	Speed, Thomas, b. 1622 or 3.	1657 (1657)	Wing S4905; Thomason E893_1; ESTC R203614	61,807	87

about that Town be witnesses against you in what you have here falsly asserted of your selves SECT 47. And whereas you demand of me why I do give the name of Sirs and Sir since you say my brethren do quarrel with the name of Master or Sir Ans I answer that for the Readers sake Acts 7.26 ΑΝΔΡΕΣ 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 VIRI Act. 27.10 ΑΝΔΡΕΣ 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Viri video Ver 25. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ΑΝΔΡΕΣ Bono animo estote VIRI So vers 21. I shall give this plain account thereof I do use the word Sir and Sirs as Moses used it and as Paul used it three times in one Chapter to express no more then man or men for so you do well know though you conceal it from your Reader the word there used doth signifie and no more And whereas you say that my brethren might know how often the word Master or Sir is given and taken by the Apostles of Christ I say I find not in Scripture that ever any Apostle of Christ gave the word Master to any Apostle or other Saint nor that any Apostle did use the title of Sir or Sirs to the Apostles or other Saints by the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Kurie or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Kurioi which words do express Lordship or Mastership but when they did use the word Sirs it was by the Greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Andres which signifieth no more then men and so do I use it and no otherwise SECT 48. You have not yet done with this But do go on to suppose worse blood in my veins then that which boyles against poor Ministers And you doubt that I that would strip them viz. the Magistrates of their Titles have too great mind to their Offices Rep. Are you come with this threed-bare suggestion again Antichrist and his Ministers throughout all ages did cleave close to the Magistrates The Priests pretend great love to the Magistrates whilst they will serve them whilst they would be their servants and supporters but when they would no longer serve their lusts then damn them to the bottomless pit Fain you would perswade the Magistrates what aspiring persons the people called Quakers are which cannot be prevalent with any but such as are as drunk with rage against them as your selves unlesse it be because they are a people trodden down by all as mire in the streets But let me ask you Did the Quakers ever attempt the overthrow and destruction of any power that would not establish them in the throne Or did they ever endeavour to bring into England an army of Scots to over-awe both Parliament and Army into subjection to prescripts and rules of their creating such things as these with many other that I omit would have shewed some bad blood running in their veins indeed I do well remember the time when your Pulpits sounded of little else but Curse ye Meroz curse bitterly the inhabitants thereof c. stirring up the people to joyn with the Parliament against the late King and your forefathers the Bishops hoping that the Parliament in conclusion Bishops being dethroned would have made you heirs of their inheritance of their lands and revenues of their honour vain-glory and domination and have committed the scepter to you to rule and tyrannize over all other mens consciences But they denying you that your Dialect touching them was soon changed in your Pulpits and probably had you not been timely prevented you bad given them in requital for all their pains and travel nought but a Scottish yoak SECT 49. In this Section you do not a little insult and triumph making a great flourish as if you had gained some notable conquest And all because in my last Article I said that the people called Quakers did avouch it proper as in Hebrew Greek and Latine so in English to say thou and thee to any single person And was this such a groundwork for you to build so mighty a flourish upon Can you and your school-boy of ten years old you speak of find me any place in Scripture where the Hebrew word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or the Greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or the Latine word Tu are rendred any otherwise in English then THOV Or can you and your young Scholler shew me any place in Scripture where the Hebrew word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or the Greek word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or the Latine word vos are rendred any otherwise then you or ye Neither am I so silly as you are pleased to call me but that I do well know that words in all languages do signifie this or that ex instituto humano by mans institutior but when by mans institution tu is appointed to signifie thou and vos ye I hope it s not left ad arbitrium to every man to expresse ye by the word tu nor thou by the word vos SECT 50. And because you would not be left without some reason why you say thou and thee to the great God you offer such a one as you have though it be a pittifull lame one viz. because you address your selves to God in Prayer in the unity of his nature Rep. Is it not proper upon the same ground to say thou and thee to a single person unless you will say that you speak to a plurality of men when you speak but to one William Thomas saith that to say thou * Page 47. and thee to our superiours is offensive which ought to be avoided Rep. Is that language offensive unto men which he himself doth give to the great God as often as he prayeth or is not the Lord of heaven and earth his Superior if he be why doth he not avoid such offensive language And if to use the words thou and thee be to be a perfect Clown as he expresseth it then what would he be esteemed who doth publikely use the same to the Almighty God his Superiour so often in his Pulpit SECT 54. And now I am come to your large list of Particulars which you call THE QVAKERS DOCTRINES In mustering up which you have shewed your selves not a little fraudulent and dis-ingenuous For first upon diligent search and enquiry I can scarce find one particular in the whole Catalogue that is of any weight but is either a thing created or misquoted Secondly Let the Reader observe whose testimony you offer in evidence to prove those things of which you accuse them viz. The Book called The Perfect Pharisee John Toldervy Richard Baxter c. If Pilate will accept of the testimony of the whole counsell of the Rulers chief Priests and Pharisees against Christ to whom they were professed enemies can he be adjudged to be any other then a person worthy to suffer death If a Jesuite should come to one of you and impeach you and those called Protestants for Hereticks and for proof thereof should offer in evidence the testimony of the Pope

great day of the Lord. You say you are little beholding to my principles who would reduce you to the condition of Heathens Rep. Well were it for a great part of you that you were in the condition of those Heathens whose uncircumcision do fulfill the Law whilst you who bless your selves with the name of Christians Rom. 2.27 are found transgressors of it SECT 14. In your fourteenth Section you would be quarrelling with me if you durst and could you handsomly quit your selves of those Scriptures I quote about perfection you would proclaim me a Blasphemer And if that be all I hold of perfection yet those of my perswasion you say are not so modest Rep. If by those of my perswasion you intend the people called Quakers whom ye seek to devour I say that I never found any of them to preach or profess any other perfection then such as Christ exhorted to and Paul and other Saints witnessed About which you and William Thomas do distinguish with all the art you can to stop the mouth of the Scripture But when you have done all what Paul witnessed therein is still wisdom among them that are perfect 1 Cor. 2.6 And here again you are craving allowance to ask me a few questions Because you can finde no flaw in plain truth you would therefore by questoning finde some if you could William Thomas closeth his discourse about perfection Page 21. with a strange saying viz. our duty here is to be always perfecting Heb. 12.23 but our labour is in vain for it belongeth to our wisedom to know that we can never be fully perfected till the last day wherein our souls shall be among the souls of just men made perfect Rep. What a thick mist doth rage cast before the eyes of the envious Could one think that one that pretendeth himself to have been so long a Minister of the Gospel Vers 22 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 ΠΡΟΣΕ ΛΗΛΥ'ΘΑΤΕ Sed ACCESSISTIS 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Τ ΕΤΕΛΕΙΩΜΕ'ΝΩΝ Ad spiritus justorum PERFECTORVM should lay down such an assertion and produce a Scripture for proof speaking point-blank contrary thereunto We cannot be fully perfected saith he untill the last day How doth he prove it Why by the words of the Author to the Hebrews who saith to the Hebrews Ye ARE come to the spirits of the just men made perfect Doth he say in the future tense they should come at the last day or doth he say they are come to those that shall be perfect doth he not say in the preterperfect tense they ARE already come to the spirits of just men ALREADY made perfect Isa 44.25 is not the Scripture fulfilled at this day which saith The Lord maketh the Diviners mad and turneth the wise men backward and maketh their knowledge foolish SECT 15. In your fifteenth Section you offer little save a threat what a severe reckoning you will have with me hereafter Against which I doubt not but to appear so armed with truth as to be able therewith to quench all the fiery darts that you and your Master have ready in your Quivers to shoot at me But William Thomas supplieth that wherein you are wanting Page 23. in passion and ignorance exceeding zealous he is in this particular for herein consisteth the life of the Priests trade in mangling tearing and confounding the Scriptures which they call Interpretations The Scripture witnesseth that none knoweth the mind of God save the Spirit of God and he to whom the Spirit shall reveal it Now observe Ten men do send each of them a Son to the University in order to their outward preferment where having spent seven or more years they are called home by them that sent them and by crouching It is the spirit not study in a University that maketh able to understand and interpret Scripture and cringing and perhaps the help of some of Simon Magus his purchase money a Benefice is gained for each of them Now these men being Ministers in William Thomas's account he asserteth it to be their imployment committed to them of God to be Messengers and Interpreters As if they had gained the Spirit and consequently the mind of God by the consumption of a few years in a University One of these readeth Augustine another Jerom a third Calvin a fourth Luther Peter Martyr c. their interpretations of Scripture and then they come forth to the people and say this is the meaning and t'other is the meaning And is this to interpret by the Spirit May not the worst of men who have not the Spirit but hate the Spirit nay may not the worst of Devils who well understand the languages in which those Commentators writ do the same Moreover take these ten young Divines which he calleth Gods Messengers and Interpreters and give them ten difficult places of Scripture a part each from other to interpret and it may be there shall not five of them agree in one interpretation Now mind if these men have not the Spirit of God they are not fit Interpreters because they cannot know Gods mind without that Spirit If they have that Spirit The Spirit never contradicteth it self I demand whether the same spirit interpreting in one man do contradict it self giving an interpretation in another If there be but one Spirit of truth and that speaketh in every man where it is the same thing then it 's clear that these men whom he calleth Messengers and Interpreters do bring forth the fancies and vain conceptions of their own brains and not the mind of God by the Spirit of God who do so jangle and contradict one another in their interpretations And therefore his charging it as a wicked error in the same page upon those that deny their expositions and interpretations is but a Bug-bear to startle the ignorant I say to thee Reader Abide faithful in the counsel of the Lord and thou shalt know his mind Live in that Spirit that gave forth the Scriptures by the mouthes of holy men and the Scripture will be plain unto thee for it 's that Spirit that unsealeth the mystery Thy soul is most precious therefore let not the false Prophet deceive thee As I have formerly told thee so now I tell thee again in bowels of love thou must die for thy self and not thy Teacher for thee and to the Lord must thou give an account for thy self therefore look well to thy standing interpret for thy self and beleeve for thy self and let not those Dreamers that call themselves Gods Messengers and Interpreters but live in pride malice covetousness c. lead thee down hood-winck'd to the chambers of death whence there is no returning SECT 16. I now come to your sixteenth Section in which you follow your old trade of deceit viz. not daring to deny in express terms although you do in effect Christs unlimited prohibition of swearing at all you fall from that to asking me questions Before I