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theodorus_n a_o martyr_n thus_o we_o want_v many_o benefit_n do_v thou_o become_v our_o legate_n with_o the_o king_n of_o heaven_n thou_o be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o humane_a necessity_n procure_v peace_n for_o we_o that_o we_o have_v be_v safe_a and_o sound_a hitherto_o we_o ascribe_v it_o to_o thou_o if_o you_o want_v more_o assistance_n take_v in_o the_o choir_n of_o your_o brethren_n the_o martyr_n the_o prayer_n of_o many_o saint_n wash_v away_o the_o sin_n of_o nation_n and_o people_n in_o the_o like_a manner_n he_o speak_v in_o his_o panegyric_n of_o another_o martyr_n theoph._n this_o be_v sufficient_a to_o your_o purpose_n you_o need_v look_v no_o further_o but_o i_o pray_v tell_v i_o do_v you_o take_v he_o for_o a_o orator_n or_o divine_a in_o these_o passage_n be_v it_o possible_a he_o shall_v in_o earnest_n ascribe_v the_o preservation_n of_o the_o faithful_a all_o along_o unto_o this_o martyr_n &_o hope_v for_o security_n from_o he_o for_o the_o future_a and_o never_o take_v into_o consideration_n the_o divine_a protection_n be_v it_o good_a divinity_n to_o say_v that_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o just_a wash_n away_o the_o guilt_n of_o nation_n and_o people_n and_o never_o mention_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o effectual_a intercession_n phil._n that_o be_v to_o be_v suppose_v as_o the_o principal_a the_o bless_a saint_n may_v be_v instrumental_a in_o these_o blessing_n theoph._n what_o you_o suppose_v be_v one_o thing_n and_o what_o he_o express_v another_o but_o it_o be_v neither_o good_a philosophy_n nor_o divinity_n to_o entitle_v the_o effect_n unto_o the_o instrument_n and_o leave_v out_o the_o principal_a agent_n shall_v i_o make_v such_o a_o harangue_n to_o a_o artist_n tool_n &_o give_v they_o all_o the_o honour_n of_o the_o excellent_a work_n he_o will_v reckon_v i_o beside_o my_o wit_n and_o himself_o put_v beside_o his_o due_a commendation_n &_o praise_n phil._n you_o ask_v question_n instead_o of_o give_v answer_n but_o i_o have_v now_o conclude_v to_o favour_v you_o and_o not_o overlade_v you_o with_o innumerable_a testimony_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o late_a father_n perhaps_o you_o will_v except_v against_o in_o this_o point_n such_o as_o bede_n and_o anselme_n &_o bernard_n &_o damascene_fw-la &_o the_o elder_n i_o have_v hitherto_o produce_v and_o yet_o there_o remain_v two_o of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o two_o of_o the_o latin_a church_n who_o authority_n i_o will_v urge_v out_o of_o bellarmin_n in_o confirmation_n of_o this_o point_n &_o then_o i_o shall_v give_v you_o respite_n the_o greek_a father_n be_v chrysostome_n and_o theodoret_n the_o latin_a jerom_n and_o augustin_n theoph._n you_o have_v make_v a_o noble_a choice_n &_o herein_o you_o much_o oblige_v i_o whilst_o your_o wisdom_n and_o your_o zeal_n do_v prompt_v you_o to_o urge_v the_o most_o effectual_a testimony_n on_o your_o side_n that_o you_o determine_v to_o let_v the_o other_o pass_v which_o chief_o serve_v to_o fill_v up_o a_o number_n phil._n bellarmin_n quote_v a_o eminent_a passage_n out_o of_o antioch_n of_o homil._n 66_o add_v pop_n antioch_n chrysostom_n but_o we_o easy_o find_v it_o in_o his_o 26_o homily_n upon_o the_o second_o epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n from_o whence_o we_o suppose_v the_o homily_n be_v collect_v it_o be_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o that_o homily_n the_o word_n out_o of_o chrysostom_n be_v these_o he_o that_o wear_v purple_a go_v and_o salute_v the_o sacred_a body_n and_o lay_v aside_o his_o state_n etc._n state_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n stand_v pray_v unto_o the_o saint_n that_o they_o will_v appear_v before_o god_n in_o his_o behalf_n he_o that_o wear_v the_o diadem_n beesech_v the_o tentmaker_n and_o fisherman_n be_v dead_a to_o become_v his_o advocate_n theoph._n this_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o passage_n whereunto_o we_o find_v not_o a_o second_o like_o it_o in_o all_o the_o work_n of_o chrysostom_n bellarmine_n refer_v to_o other_o pâ—â—ces_n of_o this_o father_n but_o according_a to_o his_o accoustumed_a manner_n without_o truth_n and_o reason_n it_o be_v strange_a therefore_o if_o he_o be_v of_o the_o opinion_n &_o the_o practice_n in_o his_o day_n be_v usual_a to_o pray_v to_o the_o saint_n before_o their_o shrine_n that_o any_o where_o else_o he_o shall_v not_o speak_v of_o it_o and_o therefore_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o that_o the_o original_a greek_a do_v not_o altogether_o warrant_v bellarmin_n translation_n but_o equal_o admit_v another_o which_o will_v fall_v short_a of_o his_o proof_n for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o well_o signify_v stand_v in_o need_n of_o the_o saint_n intercession_n as_o pray_v for_o it_o and_o so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o want_v their_o protection_n now_o we_o may_v stand_v in_o need_n and_o may_v reap_v the_o benefit_n of_o the_o saint_n supplication_n in_o heaven_n for_o the_o people_n of_o god_n here_o on_o earth_n &_o yet_o have_v no_o warrant_n to_o call_v upon_o
they_o except_o we_o can_v be_v better_o assure_v that_o they_o do_v hear_v we_o this_o therefore_o be_v a_o fallible_a and_o ambiguous_a proof_n unless_o ratify_v by_o some_o other_o passage_n out_o of_o chrysostom_n phil._n the_o cardinal_n refer_v to_o other_o place_n in_o that_o father_n for_o the_o same_o proof_n theoph._n he_o do_v so_o to_o his_o great_a shame_n and_o disadvantage_n to_o the_o demonstration_n of_o his_o supiness_n not_o of_o the_o point_n he_o send_v we_o to_o chrysostoms_n five_o homily_n upon_o s_n t_o matthew_n where_o the_o holy_a father_n in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o application_n or_o moral_a upon_o the_o text_n press_v much_o upon_o we_o the_o duty_n of_o be_v sober_a and_o watchful_a in_o prayer_n to_o god_n for_o ourselves_o and_o not_o depend_v upon_o the_o prayer_n of_o other_o for_o no_o man_n may_v deliver_v his_o brother_n nor_o make_v agreement_n to_o god_n for_o he_o ps_n 49._o 7._o he_o instance_v in_o moses_n that_o can_v not_o prevail_v for_o miriam_n nor_o samuel_n for_o saul_n nor_o jeremy_n for_o his_o people_n &c_n people_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &c_n &c_n if_o we_o ourselves_o be_v negligent_a other_o can_v help_v we_o if_o we_o be_v watchful_a we_o may_v prevail_v for_o ourselves_o more_o then_o by_o other_o intercession_n for_o god_n choose_v rather_o to_o give_v his_o blessing_n to_o we_o for_o ourselves_o then_o for_o other_o pray_v for_o we_o for_o so_o say_v he_o he_o have_v compassion_n upon_o the_o canaanitish_a woman_n &_o save_v the_o harlot_n &_o thief_n 〈◊〉_d thief_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d none_o mediate_a or_o play_v the_o advocate_n to_o god_n for_o they_o will_v any_o sober_a man_n believe_v bellarmin_n shall_v direct_v we_o unto_o this_o homily_n for_o the_o proof_n and_o encouragement_n unto_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n depart_v phil._n perhaps_o he_o reflect_v upon_o chrysostom_n next_o word_n in_o that_o homily_n 〈◊〉_d homily_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o speak_v these_o thing_n not_o that_o we_o shall_v not_o desire_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n but_o that_o ourselves_o shall_v not_o be_v slothful_a he_o will_v not_o discourage_v man_n from_o sue_v to_o the_o saint_n theoph._n to_o the_o saint_n live_v not_o the_o decease_a all_o his_o instance_n in_o the_o homily_n show_v this_o in_o samuel_n pray_v for_o saul_n and_o moses_n for_o miriam_n and_o their_o prayer_n be_v unsuccessfull_a because_o the_o person_n for_o who_o they_o pray_v be_v not_o worthy_a in_o the_o next_o place_n your_o cardinal_n send_v we_o to_o the_o eight_o homily_n where_o there_o be_v not_o a_o syllable_n for_o his_o purpose_n there_o in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o show_v that_o neither_o the_o iniquity_n of_o our_o father_n nor_o of_o the_o place_n wherein_o we_o live_v shall_v hinder_v we_o in_o the_o course_n of_o virtue_n if_o we_o will_v take_v heed_n unto_o ourselves_o as_o joseph_n live_v virtuous_o in_o egypt_n and_o the_o three_o child_n in_o babylon_n and_o hezekiah_n be_v a_o good_a son_n of_o wicked_a ahaz_n and_o abraham_n of_o terah_n a_o idolater_n if_o this_o prove_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n let_v it_o be_v so_o in_o the_o next_o place_n we_o follow_v he_o unto_o chrysostoms_n 43_o homily_n upon_o genesis_n where_o we_o have_v the_o former_a text._n no_o man_n may_v deliver_v his_o brother_n etc._n etc._n if_o we_o neglect_v ourselves_o neither_o father_n nor_o kinsman_n can_v stead_v we_o no_o not_o the_o saint_n &_o righteous_a man_n who_o have_v great_a confidence_n with_o god_n only_o a_o jesuit_n chemical_a brain_n can_v extract_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n out_o of_o these_o passage_n of_o chrysostom_n come_v we_o now_o to_o the_o next_o place_n of_o chrysostom_n whether_o bellarmin_n refer_v we_o to_o his_o first_o homily_n upon_o the_o first_o epistle_n to_o the_o thessalonian_o there_o the_o good_a father_n exhort_v we_o in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v watchful_a and_o solicitous_a for_o ourselves_o and_o then_o other_o prayer_n also_o may_v benefit_v we_o etc._n we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n it_o be_v good_a say_v he_o to_o enjoy_v the_o prey_n of_o the_o saint_n but_o when_o we_o be_v co-worker_n with_o they_o where_o he_o evident_o speak_v of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_n for_o we_o instance_v in_o peter_n deliverance_n out_o of_o prison_n through_o the_o servant_n prayer_n of_o the_o church_n act._n 12._o and_o in_o paul_n desire_n the_o saint_n shall_v contend_v in_o prayer_n for_o he_o phil._n 1._o 19_o and_o now_o tell_v i_o be_v not_o this_o a_o great_a deceit_n &_o cheat_n upon_o the_o reader_n when_o the_o good_a father_n speak_v of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n live_v which_o we_o shall_v desire_v for_o bellarmin_n to_o transfer_v it_o unto_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v in_o the_o last_o place_n your_o cardinal_n send_v we_o unto_o chrysostoms_n panegyric_n upon_o two_o martyr_n jubentius_n and_o maximinus_n tom_n 5._o and_o i_o suppose_v he_o have_v a_o eye_n unto_o that_o passage_n of_o the_o father_n as_o soldier_n show_v their_o wound_n receive_v in_o war_n appear_v with_o great_a confidence_n before_o the_o general_n or_o their_o prince_n so_o these_o bless_a martyr_n present_v their_o head_n which_o be_v cut_v off_o in_o their_o hand_n may_v easy_o obtain_v what_o they_o shall_v desire_v of_o the_o king_n of_o heaven_n now_o from_o hence_o what_o will_v you_o infer_v phil._n that_o as_o they_o can_v prevail_v much_o with_o god_n we_o shall_v the_o more_o importunate_o beg_v the_o favour_n of_o their_o intercession_n theoph._n why_o do_v not_o the_o holy_a father_n make_v that_o inference_n himself_o or_o make_v his_o application_n to_o they_o in_o prayer_n we_o say_v because_o he_o do_v not_o approve_v the_o doctrine_n of_o prayer_n to_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n all_o that_o he_o exhort_v his_o hearer_n unto_o in_o the_o close_a of_o his_o panegyric_n be_v this_o to_o go_v unto_o the_o monument_n of_o these_o martyr_n with_o faith_n and_o joy_n that_o by_o the_o sight_n of_o their_o shrine_n and_o remembrance_n of_o their_o glorious_a suffering_n they_o may_v reap_v much_o fruit_n and_o so_o live_v that_o they_o may_v share_v in_o their_o happiness_n will_v he_o not_o have_v encourage_v the_o people_n of_o god_n to_o pray_v unto_o these_o martyr_n if_o he_o have_v think_v it_o beneficial_a or_o duty_n and_o now_o i_o begin_v to_o understand_v that_o when_o your_o subtle_a cardinal_n refer_v to_o a_o place_n by_o figure_n &_o quote_v not_o the_o word_n at_o length_n he_o well_o know_v they_o will_v not_o serve_v his_o turn_n only_o to_o impose_v upon_o the_o credulous_a reader_n either_o to_o believe_v he_o or_o to_o be_v put_v to_o a_o endless_a trouble_n in_o the_o search_n &_o discovery_n but_o i_o have_v be_v content_a to_o devour_v this_o trouble_n &_o have_v with_o great_a indignation_n find_v he_o a_o deceiver_n and_o and_o yet_o before_o i_o leave_v s_o t_o chrysostom_n i_o will_v refer_v you_o to_o one_o of_o 60._o of_o tom._n 5._o hom._n 60._o his_o homily_n where_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o the_o history_n of_o the_o canaanitish_a woman_n he_o show_v etc._n show_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n that_o we_o prevail_v most_o with_o god_n by_o our_o own_o prayer_n rather_o than_o other_o intercession_n the_o apostle_n say_v he_o interpose_v for_o that_o woman_n but_o our_o saviour_n answer_n be_v a_o denial_n i_o be_o not_o send_v but_o unto_o the_o lose_a sheep_n of_o israel_n but_o her_o own_o importunity_n prevail_v for_o her_o daughter_n recovery_n which_o be_v the_o sum_n of_o her_o desire_n there_o chrysostom_n express_o tell_v we_o thou_o have_v no_o need_n of_o mediator_n with_o god_n to_o fawn_v upon_o other_o to_o pray_v for_o thou_o but_o if_o thou_o be_v destitute_a of_o all_o protector_n thyself_o by_o thyself_o call_v upon_o god_n shall_v thou_o obtain_v all_o can_v desire_v he_o will_v not_o grant_v unto_o we_o upon_o the_o request_n of_o other_o so_o as_o upon_o our_o own_o he_o put_v the_o objection_n which_o your_o doctor_n usual_o propose_v that_o we_o be_v not_o worthy_a to_o appear_v in_o the_o lord_n presence_n 〈◊〉_d presence_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d what_o say_v thou_o be_v thou_o unworthy_a become_v worthy_a by_o thy_o perseverance_n in_o prayer_n to_o god_n our_o bless_a saviour_n say_v he_o compare_v the_o woman_n of_o canaan_n to_o a_o dog_n unto_o who_o the_o child_n bread_n must_v not_o be_v give_v and_o yet_o soon_o after_o he_o cry_v out_o o_o woman_n great_a be_v thy_o faith_n phil._n you_o may_v as_o well_o urge_v these_o like_a passage_n of_o chrysostom_n against_o the_o mediation_n and_o intercession_n of_o christ_n and_o
against_o any_o desire_n that_o the_o faithful_a live_n shall_v assist_v we_o with_o their_o prayer_n theoph._n you_o shall_v not_o join_v together_o the_o mediation_n &_o intercession_n of_o christ_n and_o of_o the_o saint_n whether_o in_o heaven_n or_o earth_n and_o you_o may_v observe_v the_o father_n speak_v of_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d intercessor_n in_o the_o plural_a as_o of_o many_o imply_v that_o one_o be_v our_o mediator_n between_o god_n and_o man_n even_o the_o man_n christ_n jesus_n 1_o tim._n 2._o 5._o and_o withal_o the_o testimony_n be_v sufficient_a against_o that_o fond_a conceit_n that_o we_o be_v unworthy_a to_o draw_v near_o to_o god_n in_o our_o own_o person_n but_o by_o other_o intercession_n phil._n you_o will_v draw_v out_o your_o discourse_n in_o infinitum_fw-la by_o your_o rejoinder_n and_o remark_n but_o i_o have_v to_o a_o end_n the_o second_o greek_a father_n i_o propose_v be_v theodoret_n a_o learned_a bishop_n of_o cyprus_n who_o in_o his_o history_n of_o the_o life_n of_o holy_a father_n conclude_v each_o life_n after_o this_o manner_n cuxil_n manner_n huic_fw-la narrationi_fw-la finem_fw-la imponens_fw-la rogo_fw-la ut_fw-la per_fw-la horum_fw-la intercess_n div_o con_fw-la cuxil_n i_o put_v a_o period_n to_o this_o relation_n and_o history_n do_v pray_v and_o beseech_v that_o by_o the_o intercession_n of_o these_o saint_n i_o may_v obtain_v divine_a assistance_n theoph._n it_o be_v not_o here_o express_v that_o he_o do_v pray_v unto_o these_o saint_n but_o we_o rather_o suppose_v to_o god_n upon_o the_o opinion_n of_o their_o intercession_n that_o he_o may_v reap_v the_o benefit_n thereof_o &_o withal_o he_o be_v infect_v with_o the_o hereâ—y_n of_o nestorius_n and_o write_v bitter_o against_o cyrill_n of_o alexanria_n his_o twelve_o thesis_n and_o that_o work_v of_o his_o be_v condemn_v in_o the_o five_o general_a council_n and_o himself_o through_o the_o violence_n of_o opposition_n be_v compel_v against_o his_o judgement_n to_o pronounce_v nestorius_n accurse_v yet_o we_o honour_v his_o great_a learning_n and_o let_v his_o memory_n be_v precious_a phil._n i_o be_o glad_a to_o discover_v your_o moderation_n for_o there_o be_v another_o most_o considerable_a testimony_n out_o of_o he_o full_a to_o the_o point_n of_o saint_n invocation_n affectibus_fw-la invocation_n libro_fw-la 8._o de_fw-fr curandis_fw-la graec_fw-la affectibus_fw-la the_o temple_n of_o the_o martyr_n be_v magnificent_a &_o beautiful_a in_o they_o we_o often_o keep_v festival_n &_o such_o as_o enjoy_v health_n pray_v to_o the_o martyr_n to_o preserve_v it_o such_o as_o be_v sick_a desire_n health_n of_o they_o man_n and_o woman_n who_o be_v unfruitful_a ask_v of_o they_o child_n such_o as_o go_v a_o journey_n desire_v their_o conduct_n and_o after_o their_o safe_a return_n they_o pay_v their_o thanks_o to_o they_o owe_v their_o security_n to_o their_o favour_n now_o say_v he_o they_o do_v not_o pray_v to_o these_o martyr_n as_o to_o god_n but_o as_o unto_o holy_a man_n who_o intercession_n they_o desire_v and_o that_o they_o often_o obtain_v their_o request_n the_o numerous_a gift_n devote_v to_o these_o martyr_n do_v testify_v hang_v up_o in_o the_o martyr_n temple_n the_o picture_n of_o they_o eye_n and_o hand_n and_o leg_n in_o gold_n which_o their_o votary_n recover_v by_o their_o merit_n and_o prayer_n and_o intercession_n theoph._n these_o be_v high_a thing_n and_o great_a assignment_n unto_o the_o martyr_n methinks_v there_o shall_v of_o right_n have_v be_v some_o reflection_n upon_o god_n in_o these_o deliverance_n and_o cure_n &_o sure_o there_o be_v something_o in_o the_o wind_n that_o bellarmin_n only_o refer_v to_o this_o passage_n and_o do_v not_o set_v it_o down_o in_o full_a length_n be_v so_o full_a to_o his_o purpose_n in_o the_o 18_o the_o chap._n he_o have_v part_n of_o this_o quotation_n but_o not_o the_o whole_a perhaps_o the_o cardinal_n be_v not_o full_o satisfy_v with_o the_o person_n of_o theodoret_n or_o rather_o with_o the_o book_n itself_o which_o 54._o which_o niceph._n l._n 44_o c._n 54._o nicephorus_n do_v not_o reckon_v up_o among_o theodoret_n work_n when_o he_o give_v a_o account_n of_o all_o his_o book_n these_o 8_o book_n de_fw-fr curandis_fw-la graecorum_n affectibus_fw-la be_v not_o mention_v etc._n mention_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n those_o which_o he_o write_v be_v these_o etc._n etc._n and_o withal_o your_o learned_a cardinal_n know_v well_o that_o what_o theodoret_n if_o this_o book_n be_v he_o do_v build_v with_o one_o hand_n he_o pull_v down_o with_o another_o as_o to_o this_o point_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n or_o angel_n for_o in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o the_o 2_o do_v chap._n of_o s_n t_o paul_n to_o the_o colossian_n vers_fw-la 18_o let_v no_o man_n beguile_v you_o of_o your_o reward_n in_o a_o voluntary_a humility_n and_o worship_v of_o angel_n i_o say_v theodoret_n in_o his_o commentary_n upon_o this_o place_n cut_v off_o the_o sinew_n and_o foundation_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n invocation_n he_o show_v how_o some_o jewish_a christian_n in_o phrygia_n and_o pisidia_n be_v zealous_a of_o the_o law_n do_v worship_n angel_n by_o who_o the_o law_n be_v give_v and_o build_v temple_n to_o s_o t_o michael_n and_o other_o and_o that_o this_o course_n continue_v long_o among_o they_o etc._n they_o bin._n council_n lacd_a tom._n 1._o can_v 35._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o that_o in_o the_o 4_o the_o century_n a_o council_n of_o bishop_n in_o laodicea_n the_o metropolis_n of_o phrygia_n near_o neighbour_n to_o colosse_n do_v express_o forbid_v the_o worship_n of_o angel_n call_v it_o idolatry_n that_o christian_n ought_v not_o to_o leave_v the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o depart_v and_o call_v upon_o the_o angel_n and_o make_v assembly_n and_o if_o any_o be_v find_v to_o be_v conversant_a in_o this_o hide_a idolatry_n let_v he_o be_v accurse_v now_o this_o voluntary_a humility_n which_o s_n to_o paul_n mention_n refer_v to_o that_o humble_a pretence_n that_o sinner_n be_v not_o worthy_a to_o draw_v near_o to_o god_n themselves_o but_o by_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n &_o angel_n intrude_a into_o those_o thing_n which_o he_o have_v not_o see_v vain_o puff_v up_o in_o his_o fleshly_a mind_n say_v the_o apostle_n that_o be_v say_v theodoret_n cogitationibus_fw-la theodoret_n propriis_fw-la utens_fw-la rationibus_fw-la &_o cogitationibus_fw-la use_v his_o own_o reason_n and_o imagination_n etc._n etc._n now_o say_v he_o the_o angelos_n the_o synodus_fw-la volens_fw-la veteri_fw-la illi_fw-la morbo_fw-la mederi_fw-la cavit_fw-la ne_fw-la precarentur_fw-la angelos_n synod_n of_o laodicea_n desire_v to_o cure_v this_o old_a decease_n forbid_v they_o to_o pray_v unto_o angel_n and_o you_o will_v grant_v if_o we_o must_v not_o pray_v to_o angel_n neither_o to_o the_o saint_n for_o you_o have_v derive_v chief_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n from_o that_o of_o angel_n phil._n 20._o phil._n ibid._n cap._n 20._o bellarmin_n have_v answer_v this_o passage_n of_o theodoret_n and_o of_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n and_o the_o text_n of_o the_o apostle_n together_o namely_o etc._n namely_o apostolum_n damnare_fw-la haeresin_fw-la simenis_fw-la magi_n qui_fw-la decuit_fw-la angelos_n quasi_fw-la minres_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o the_o apostle_n condemn_v the_o heresy_n of_o simon_n magus_n who_o teach_v like_a plato_n that_o the_o angel_n shall_v be_v worship_n as_o lesser_a deity_n and_o that_o none_o can_v please_v the_o invisible_a god_n but_o by_o the_o angel_n and_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o council_n propria_fw-la council_n concilium_fw-la non_fw-la damnat_fw-la quamvis_fw-la venerationem_fw-la ang._n sed_fw-la quae_fw-la deo_fw-la propria_fw-la do_v not_o condemn_v all_o worship_n of_o angel_n but_o only_o such_o veneration_n as_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n theoph._n observe_v the_o incongruity_n of_o this_o answer_n as_o to_o several_a particular_n he_o say_v the_o council_n condemn_v not_o all_o veneration_n of_o angel_n but_o only_o such_o as_o be_v proper_a to_o god_n the_o supreme_a deity_n and_o yet_o according_a to_o his_o own_o relation_n simon_n magas_n and_o the_o jewish_a christian_n that_o worship_v angel_n do_v not_o worship_v they_o as_o the_o supreme_a deity_n but_o only_o as_o subordinate_a intercessor_n and_o s_o t_o paul_n and_o the_o council_n of_o laoduea_n condemn_v this_o that_o in_o voluntary_a humility_n they_o shall_v deprive_v themselves_o of_o that_o privilege_n to_o come_v to_o god_n themselves_o and_o so_o make_v way_n unto_o he_o by_o the_o intercession_n of_o angel_n the_o apostle_n therefore_o and_o the_o council_n sorbid_v this_o inferior_a worship_n as_o theodoret_n observe_v angelos_n observe_v ne_fw-fr precarentur_fw-la angelos_n that_o they_o shall_v not_o pray_v to_o the_o angel_n to_o make_v way_n for_o they_o unto_o the_o great_a god_n and_o in_o the_o next_o chap._n of_o s._n paul_n to_o the_o colossian_n vers_fw-la 17._o the_o apostle_n
breviaries_n ibid._n c._n 17._o maria_fw-la matergratiae_fw-la mater_fw-la misericordiae_fw-la tu_fw-la nos_fw-la ab_fw-la host_n etc._n etc._n bellarmin_n tell_v we_o the_o church_n catholic_n in_o her_o hymn_n to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n pray_v thus_o o_o marry_o mother_n of_o grace_n mother_n of_o mercy_n do_v thou_o defend_v we_o from_o the_o enemy_n and_o and_o receive_v we_o in_o the_o hour_n of_o death_n if_o we_o may_v judge_n of_o word_n by_o their_o signification_n doubtless_o this_o prayer_n import_v more_o than_o bare_o a_o desire_n of_o her_o assistance_n by_o her_o prayer_n phil._n bellarmin_n in_o the_o same_o place_n give_v you_o a_o general_a rule_n against_o such_o sinister_a construction_n verborum_fw-la construction_n nos_fw-la non_fw-la agere_fw-la de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la at_o sensis_fw-la verborum_fw-la we_o dispute_v not_o of_o the_o word_n but_o of_o their_o sense_n now_o the_o sense_n of_o our_o church_n in_o all_o such_o petition_n be_v that_o the_o bless_a virgin_n and_o the_o saint_n by_o their_o prayer_n and_o by_o their_o merit_n will_v procure_v these_o thing_n for_o we_o theoph._n although_o this_o may_v be_v the_o sense_n of_o your_o church_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o the_o signification_n of_o the_o word_n and_o methinks_v to_o avoid_v the_o just_a occasion_n of_o scandal_n give_v to_o your_o adversary_n by_o they_o &_o the_o occasion_n of_o error_n and_o delusion_n give_v to_o your_o undiscerning_a votary_n your_o church_n shall_v have_v express_v herself_o in_o more_o inoffensive_a and_o justifiable_a term_n bellarmine_n give_v a_o 2_o do_v instance_n in_o the_o hymn_n of_o the_o apostle_n he_o say_v the_o church_n pray_v thus_o etc._n thus_o quorum_fw-la praecepto_fw-la subditur_fw-la salus_fw-la &_o languor_n omvium_n sanent_fw-la aegros_fw-la etc._n etc._n let_v the_o holy_a apostle_n unto_o who_o command_n both_o the_o welfare_n and_o languish_n of_o all_o man_n be_v submit_v let_v they_o heal_v we_o who_o be_v moral_o sick_a and_o restore_v we_o unto_o a_o life_n of_o virtue_n if_o command_n here_o must_v signify_v intercession_n and_o supplication_n your_o church_n will_v do_v well_o and_o wise_o to_o set_v forth_o a_o new_a dictionary_n to_o interpret_v word_n and_o sentence_n not_o after_o the_o common_a sense_n and_o signification_n of_o they_o but_o after_o the_o roman_a gloss_n mean_o while_o a_o impartial_a judge_n must_v needs_o conclude_v these_o interpretation_n to_o be_v force_v only_o to_o salve_v the_o inconvenience_n and_o absurdity_n of_o such_o prayer_n and_o if_o your_o church_n have_v design_v only_o to_o invocate_v the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n for_o their_o intercession_n with_o god_n by_o their_o prayer_n she_o will_v have_v make_v use_n of_o more_o humble_a and_o suitable_a expression_n but_o make_v the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n to_o consist_v as_o well_o in_o their_o merit_n as_o in_o their_o prayer_n call_v upon_o they_o as_o well_o for_o their_o patronage_n as_o their_o intercession_n this_o i_o say_v have_v prepare_v the_o way_n for_o all_o those_o forementioned_a presumtion_n and_o blasphemy_n in_o your_o address_n to_o they_o and_o invocation_n of_o they_o if_o god_n be_v the_o father_n of_o grace_n and_o mercy_n and_o mary_n the_o mother_n who_o will_v imagine_v otherwise_o but_o that_o these_o heavenly_a blessing_n flow_v original_o and_o immediate_o from_o they_o both_o phil._n it_o be_v obvious_a that_o the_o bless_a virgin_n be_v call_v the_o mother_n of_o mercy_n because_o she_o be_v the_o mother_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n who_o be_v the_o fountain_n of_o grace_n and_o mercy_n theoph._n your_o doctor_n do_v not_o teach_v you_o so_o to_o understand_v it_o see_v they_o represent_v christ_n as_o a_o severe_a judge_n towards_o a_o poor_a sinner_n and_o mary_n their_o advocate_n for_o mercy_n you_o have_v hear_v how_o in_o the_o distribution_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n the_o province_n of_o justice_n be_v allot_v to_o the_o son_n and_o of_o mercy_n to_o the_o virgin_n mother_n your_o florentin_n archbishop_n tell_v we_o that_o upon_o the_o assumption_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n into_o heaven_n as_o your_o doctor_n have_v careful_o imprint_v that_o belief_n in_o the_o heart_n of_o the_o credulous_a people_n the_o whole_a person_n of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n both_o body_n and_o soul_n be_v take_v up_o into_o heaven_n i_o say_v we_o be_v tell_v that_o when_o she_o be_v translate_v into_o heaven_n the_o seraphim_n attend_v upon_o she_o and_o earnest_o solicit_v her_o stay_n and_o society_n with_o their_o sublime_a order_n but_o she_o deliberate_o answer_v solum_fw-la answer_v non_fw-fr est_fw-fr honum_fw-la hominem_fw-la esse_fw-la solum_fw-la it_o be_v not_o good_a the_o man_n shall_v be_v alone_o mean_v her_o son_n and_o that_o she_o must_v assist_v he_o in_o the_o redemtion_n of_o god_n people_n by_o her_o compassion_n and_o in_o their_o glorification_n by_o her_o intercession_n that_o when_o for_o the_o iniquity_n of_o the_o world_n her_o son_n shall_v be_v ready_a to_o destory_n the_o earth_n a_o second_o time_n with_o a_o flood_n she_o may_v appear_v as_o the_o bow_n in_o the_o cloud_n to_o oppose_v his_o fury_n and_o mind_n he_o of_o his_o covenant_n and_o promise_n these_o be_v the_o luxuriant_a fancy_n of_o your_o archbishop_n suitable_a hereunto_o i_o read_v of_o sanct._n of_o vide_fw-la chemnit_fw-la exam_fw-la trid._n council_n p._n 3._o the_o invoc_n sanct._n picture_n in_o your_o temple_n represent_v christ_n in_o his_o indignation_n cast_v dart_n and_o thunderbolt_n and_o the_o bless_a virgin_n stand_v between_o his_o wrath_n and_o sinful_a man_n and_o receive_v the_o dart_n into_o her_o bosom_n phil._n still_o you_o return_v to_o the_o fancy_n of_o private_a doctor_n and_o painter_n your_o promise_a more_o authentic_a proof_n theoph._n what_o think_v you_o of_o that_o great_a promise_n make_v to_o uphold_v man_n immediate_o after_o his_o fall_n concern_v christ_n the_o 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authority_n sufficient_a unto_o the_o undiscerning_a people_n to_o ask_v all_o blessing_n from_o the_o saint_n and_o to_o hope_v from_o they_o to_o receive_v blessing_n as_o confident_o as_o from_o almighty_a god_n phil._n no_o they_o be_v teach_v to_o expect_v blessing_n from_o god_n for_o the_o sake_n and_o intercession_n of_o the_o saint_n theoph._n and_o they_o be_v teach_v and_o accustom_a to_o ask_v blessing_n of_o the_o saint_n without_o any_o such_o limitation_n but_o in_o a_o absolute_a manner_n phil._n if_o the_o limitation_n be_v not_o express_v it_o must_v be_v imply_v theoph._n it_o seem_v the_o ground_n of_o your_o people_n error_n be_v express_v when_o the_o hymn_n and_o prayer_n of_o your_o church_n ask_v grace_n and_o protection_n of_o the_o saint_n without_o the_o reserve_n that_o they_o shall_v procure_v they_o by_o their_o intercession_n but_o that_o which_o shall_v undeceive_v they_o be_v suppress_v or_o as_o you_o will_v have_v it_o imply_v that_o what_o they_o ask_v absolute_o of_o the_o saint_n they_o must_v understand_v it_o only_o in_o reference_n to_o their_o prayer_n and_o intercession_n and_o so_o the_o ignorant_a people_n who_o understand_v only_o the_o plain_a word_n of_o the_o petition_n and_o not_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v understand_v be_v induce_v to_o hope_v in_o the_o saint_n for_o their_o succour_n and_o to_o fly_v to_o they_o in_o trouble_n as_o to_o their_o chief_n sanctuary_n and_o to_o return_v their_o thanks_o and_o their_o vow_n to_o they_o for_o their_o deliverance_n etc._n deliverance_n â—omm_n in_o lib._n 8._o aug._n de_fw-fr câ—v_n dei_fw-la multi_fw-la christiam_fw-la divos_fw-la divasque_fw-la non_fw-la aliter_fw-la venerantur_fw-la quam_fw-la deum_fw-la etc._n etc._n ludovicus_n vives_z complain_v that_o the_o common_a people_n high_o offend_v in_o not_o discern_v between_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n and_o of_o the_o saint_n nor_o do_v their_o opinion_n say_v he_o of_o the_o saint_n want_v much_o of_o what_o the_o heathen_a do_v believe_v of_o their_o deity_n or_o idol_n phil._n what_o value_n we_o ludovicus_n vives_z come_v to_o the_o point_n what_o be_v these_o prayer_n to_o the_o saint_n which_o you_o say_v our_o church_n own_v and_o prescribe_v and_o be_v so_o offensive_a to_o your_o tender_a ear_n and_o such_o a_o snare_n unto_o the_o people_n of_o god_n among_o we_o theoph._n such_o as_o have_v the_o opportunity_n to_o search_v into_o your_o breviaries_n and_o missal_n have_v collect_v their_o gross_a absurdity_n and_o your_o doctor_n as_o i_o can_v find_v have_v not_o be_v solicitous_a to_o answer_v they_o i_o shall_v give_v you_o some_o instance_n which_o i_o have_v take_v out_o of_o one_o of_o your_o service_n book_n style_v sarum_n style_v ordinarium_fw-la secundum_fw-la usum_fw-la sarum_n the_o ordinary_a after_o the_o use_n of_o sarum_n print_v at_o paris_n by_o william_n merlin_n in_o the_o office_n of_o the_o virgin_n we_o have_v these_o passage_n reenum_fw-la passage_n tuum_fw-la nobis_fw-la impende_v solatium_fw-la per_fw-la te_fw-la mereamur_fw-la habere_fw-la praemium_fw-la &_o cum_fw-la electis_fw-la dei_fw-la reenum_fw-la impart_v to_o we_o thy_o comfort_n by_o thou_o may_v we_o deserve_v the_o reward_n and_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n with_o the_o elect._n again_o etc._n again_o tuo_fw-la pio_fw-la interventu_fw-la etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la per_fw-la te_fw-la redemti_fw-la sedem_fw-la gloriae_fw-la etc._n etc._n by_o thy_o pious_a intervention_n wash_v away_o our_o sin_n that_o be_v redeem_v by_o thou_o we_o may_v climb_v the_o seat_n of_o eternal_a glory_n o_o holy_a virgin_n thou_o alone_o have_v slay_v the_o heresy_n of_o the_o world_n etc._n world_n accipe_fw-la quod_fw-la offerimus_fw-la redona_fw-la quod_fw-la rogamus_fw-la etc._n etc._n accept_v what_o we_o offer_v give_v what_o we_o ask_v and_o excuse_v what_o we_o fear_v then_o follow_v a_o formal_a prayer_n or_o collect_n etc._n collect_n o_o regina_fw-la mundi_fw-la scala_fw-la coeli_fw-la thronus_fw-la dei_fw-la janua_n parad._n etc._n etc._n o_o queen_n of_o the_o world_n the_o ladder_n