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A07963 The vvoefull crie of Rome Containing a defiance to popery. With Thomas Bells second challenge to all fauorites of that Romish faction. Succinctly comprehending much variety of matter ... Bell, Thomas, fl. 1593-1610. 1605 (1605) STC 1833; ESTC S101554 53,995 85

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in poperie and therefore was hee enforced to vse this sillie sillie euasion viz. that the church doth tollerate them because it cannot altogether abolish the same Fourthly that God doth suffer myracles or strange euents to bee done by the power of the diuel that so the wicked for their iust deserts in regard of their former sinnes may be more confirmed in their superstitious dotage and receiue due punishment for their vaine credulitie Fiftly that not to take a ●ourney or not to doe such a thing on such a day which many Papistes obserue most superstitiously for feare of some misfortune or ill successe is heere condemned for superstition by this famous Papist Sixtly that popish priestes which daily and vsually take vppon them by their exorcismes to cast out diuells are by this learned Papist accused and condemned both of infidelitie and of temeritie And his reason is this because that the diuell cannot bee compelled to doe anie thing vnlesse it bee by the speciall and myraculous worke of God Seuenthly that the diuel therefore faineth himselfe to be compelled by such wicked rites superstious dealing th● his worshippers may thereby be the more deeply confirmed in their superstitious dotage and vaine credulitie To which I must needs adde as a delicate p●st-past for all the Iesuits and Iesuited papists that the supposed myracles done by papists are often counterfeit and plaine Legerdemaine This I wil not barely say but after my wonted maner proue it euen by the testimonie of their owne popish writers Marke well gentle Reader what I shall truely deliuer thee in this behal● The papists in their booke intitulted the Iesuits Catechisme haue these expresse words The kingdome of Portugall being fallen to Sebastian the holy Apostles the Iesuits conceiued a hope that by this meanes it might descend vnto their Familie and dealt with him many wayes that no man might from thence forward be capable of the crowne of Portugall except the were a Iesuit and chosen by their societie as at Rome the pope is chosen by the colledge of Cardinals And for as much as he although as superstitious as superstition it selfe could not or rather durst not condescend therevnto they perswaded him that God had appointed it should bee so as himselfe should vnderstand by a voyce from heauen neere the sea-side Insomuch as this poore prince thus carryed away resorted to the place two or three seuerall times but they could not play their parts so wel as to make him heare this voyce Thus write the learned papists of France in their booke called the Iesuits Catechisme Which booke vpon the good liking thereof the English Secular priestes haue translated into our vulgar language to which storie I adde this for explication sake that this yong king 〈…〉 vp vnder the Iesuits therefore they thought to ha●e drawne him to their lure and bate And when they could not preuaile that way they disswaded him from marriage and to goe personally to the warres in such sort as they designed him By which vnchristian meanes he was cut off and the kingdom devolued to the King of Spaine For their onely intent was this to maintaine poperie and to suppresse the Gospel I haue proued this else-where where I haue made euident demonstration that poperie is inseperably lincked with treason and cannot consist without the support of the Spanish king There may the Reader finde at large many other like miracles wrought by the Iesuits as also their seditions and traterous dealing euery where It were expedient for all simply seduced papists and for all such as are by any meanes carryed and led into errour by the Iesuits of which faction there is too great plentie in this Realme to prouide my Anotomie and to read it againe and againe for in so doing I am perswaded and fully resolued that all carefull of their saluation would vtterly abhorre and detest all popish faction The Iesuitical religion which is the Popes owne doctrine is nothing els but an hoge-poge of Omnigitherum● as the secular popish priests haue constantly avouched in their printed books divulged to the whole world Alas alas how hath the late Romish Church bewitched vs. CHAP. XIX Of Popish adoration and invocation of Saints COncerning this controuersie I haue written else-where at large I deeme it here to be enough to vnfold that great superstition and grosse idolatrie which the papists commit in this behalfe The popish invocation of Saintes this day vsed in the Romish Church is the selfe same which the Gentiles vsed in olde time when they did invocate false gods I proue it because they haue pecular saints for their seuerall necessities viz. Saint Loy for their horses S. Anthonie for their Pigges S. Roch for the pestilence S. Steuen for the night S. Iohn for the day S. Nicholas for their studies Saint George for their warres S. Cosma and S. Damian for their sores S. Appolonia for their teeth S. Agnes for their Virginitie and others innumerable for the like ende and effect they errect Church● to their saints they frame images to them they carry their images about in Procession they consecrate alters to them they dedicate Holy-dayes to thē they make vowes for the honour of them they offer presents to their altars and images they put Lampes tapers torches and lights before their images they kneele downe before their images they touch them they embrace them they speake to thē they intreat them as if they were yet liuings yea they seem to surpas the folly impietie of the Gentiles For they ascribe their saluation to their saints euen to such saints as of whose saint-hood wee may well stand in doubt They invocate Campion Sherwin Ballard Hart Nelson and the rest of that seditious faction Alphonsus the Iesuit● and late Rector of the English Colledge at Rome caused the Organs to be sounded and all the Students to come to the Chappell where himselfe hauing on his backe a white Surplesse and the stole about his necke sang a Collect of Martyrs so after his maner canonizing Campion the Traytor for a Saint Such is the seditious impudencie of newly hatched R●mish Iesuits of which cursed broode I haue written at large in my Anatomie And least any Iesuit or Iesuited Papist shall bee able to denie that they ascribe their saluation to saints for they vse to say they make them but Mediators of intercession and not of saluation or redemption I will proue it flatly out of their owne Bookes yea euen out of their Church-seruice which I wish the Reader to marke attentiuely In the Prayer of the Church of Rome vpon Thomas B●●kets day some-time the Arch-byshoppe of Canterbury I finde these expresse words Deus pro cuius ecclesia gloriosus pontifex Thomas gladijs impierū occubuit prasta quasumus vt omnes qui ●ius impl●rant ●●xili●● petitionis su●●alutarem consequantur effectum Englished thus O God for whose Church the glorious Byshop Thomas was put to death by the
I boldly auouch that Serenus had for his example both the fact of the good King Ezechias who breake in pieces the brazen Serpent when the people began to adore it albeit God himselfe had appointed it to be set vp and also the practise of S. Epiphanius who seeing the Image of a Saint hanging in the church rare the same asunder and aduised the warders to burie some poore body with the vaile and to see that thenceforth no such vailes should be hanged vp in the church Some againe will say that many myracles haue bene done by Images and that such as adored worshipped them haue thereby receiued their health To whom I will answere euen as their owne deare Doctor Grabriel Riel doth His expresse words are these Quod si aliquando miracula fiunt hominibus etiam ad eas confluentibus adiutoria aut sanitates praestantur non haec virtute imaginum sed virtute dei ministerio bonorum angelorum ad intercessiones sanctorū contingunt vel etiam non nunquā operatione daemonum ad fallendum inordinatos cuitores deo permittente exigentem taliū infidelitate Englished thus If miracles be sometime done and men also resorting to thē be holpē or receiue their health yet are not these things done by vertue in the Images but by the power of God ministry of the good Angels at the intercessiō of the saints Yea sometime by the operation of the d●uels to deceiue the inordinate and superstitious worshippers by Gods permissiō their infidelitie so requiring Thus writeth Frier Biel out of whose words I obserue first that myracles are somtime done when the people worship adore Images Secondly that such myracles are done by the power of the diuel Thirdly that God permits them to be done for the punishment of their infidelitie who are polluted with the superstitious worship of Images The same reason yeeldeth an other famous papist M. Gerson sometime the Chancellor of Paris of an other different subiect in deed but wholy plainly to the same effect These are his expresse words Arguunt iterū nos in similem causum trahere ●atagum No●ne inquiūt talia similiter fueriut aut tolerantur ab ecclesia in peregrinationibus certis in cultu imaginum in cereis in aquis benedictis in exorcismis nonne dic●tur quotidie si nouem diebus perdurat in hac ecclesia si ex aqua illa perfundatur aut si tali se v●veat imagini aut si aliquid talium faciat ipse mox sanabitur vel op●ato potietur fateor abnegare non possumus multa inter Christianos simplices sub sp●●i● religionis introducta esse quorum sanctior esset omissi● tolerantur tamen quia neque●ut fundit 〈◊〉 erus Englished thus They obiect againe and labour greatly to draw vs into the like cause doth not the church say they either practise in like maner such things or at least permit such things to be done in going on pilgrimage in worshipping Images in Torches Tapers and Candles in holy Water and in exorcismes Is it not daily sayd if one abide nine dayes in this church if he be sprinkled with that water or if he make vowes to such an Image or doe any such thing hee shall presently bee healed or haue his desire I graunt wee can it not denie that many thinges are practised among Christians vnder colour of religion which to omit and leaue vndone were a more holy thing neuerthelesse the Church doth tolerate them because she cannot vtterly abolish the same Againe the same Doctor hath these wordes At ob●jciunt quare non possumus daemonem cogere ad pr●standum humana quadam obsequia cum sacerdotes hoc facere tentant ordinarie responde● si coactio daemonis aliter expectetur quam per miraculum Deo specialiter cooperante ●stud falso creditur pericul●●è quaeritur falso quid●●●propter libertatem daemonibus insitam quae nec ab istis corporalibus quibus perfectior est nec a carminibus cogitur is●●d antem periculose quaritur quia hostis est dolosissimus tunc fingit se compelli per tales ritus impios quibus honorari quaerit animas perdere Englished thus But they obiect why may we not compell the diuell to doe humane duties seeing the Papistes doe dailie take in hand to doe it I aunswer if the compulsion of the diuell bee otherwise expected then miraculouslie by Gods speciall handy-worke it is both fa●ly bel●eued and dangerously assayed falsly by reason of the naturall power of diuels who neither can bee forced by verses nor yet by any corporall creatures of lesse perfection then themselues dangerously because the diuel is a most subtile enemie who then faineth himselfe to bee compelled by those impious rites with which he seeketh to be honoured and to destroy our soules The same learned writer in an other place hath these word● Sicut vera Christiana fides mirabilia operatur in bone oradeutibus sic fals●● mal● creduli●●● deo permittente 〈…〉 vel 〈…〉 dominus 〈◊〉 adharere a●quibus vanis observantijs permittit aliquos eventus contingere ita eos plus consequenter firmari in ta●i opinione vt maior fiat cacitat corum in laqueum cadant quem sibi fecarunt Quicquid n. mali evenit t●li die imputant malitiae ●iri 〈◊〉 aspeciunt ad ea quae ben● prosperè successerunt tali die a deo Vnde merito deus permittit tales deci●i in laqu●●s su● credulitatis v●n● incidere Englished thus As the true Christian faith worketh myracles in the true beleeuers so doth a wicked false credulitie by God● permission worke sometime or rather demerite euill events Yea while the Lorde perceiueth them to be too much giuen to vaine and fond obseruations and superstitions hee permitteth suche euents or myracles to happen and consequently them by that meanes to be more confirmed in such an opinion that their blindnesse may be the greater and they catched in their owne snare For whatsoeuer euil chaunceth such a day they impute it to the wickednes malice and ill fortune incident to the day and they regard not those things to which God hath giuen good and prosperous successe vpon such a day Wherefore God doth worthily suffer such to be seduced and to fall into the snares of their vaine credulitie Thus writeth Maister Gerson a verie famous papist and a learned man indeed Out of whose doctrine I obserue sundry important documents as well for the instruction of the indifferent Reader as for confusion of the obstinate papist First that many things are done in the popish churches like vnto things done by Art-magicke by the power of the diuel Secondly that the popish vsage in gadding on pilgrimage in worshipping Images in Tapers Torches Candles Exorcismes and other like popish superstitions may well be resembled to the practise of Sooth-sayers Coniurers and Magicians Thirdly that the learned papist could not excuse such superstitions vsed