power did open the shut dores The dores were not shut in the very instant of his passing See more art 23. Scripture Hauing a great high preist that hath penetrated Christ penetrated the heauen Not penetrated them Christ praieth for vs. He praieth not for vs. the heauenes Iesus the Sonne of God Protestants Christ ascended without penetration of quantities VVe admit no penetration See art 14. Scripture I will aske the Father VVho also maketh intercession for vs. Protestants VVe may not imagin that Christ as a Suppliant praieth for vs. His death and resurrection are in steed of an eternall intercession See more art 25. CHAPTER IV. OF ANGELS AND SAINTES SCripture And the Angell of our Lord answered and saied O Angels pray for vs. Lord of Hostes how long will thou not haue mercie on Hierusalem Protestants The Scripture teacheth not that Angels pray They pray not We denie that the holie Angels do pray in particular for our necessities See art 4. Scripture And he preuailed against the Angel and was Angels to be praied vnto Not to be praied vnto strenghtned and he wept and besought him Protestants The inuocation of Saints and Angels is impious See art 8. Scripture Our lord opened the eyes of Balaam and he saw the Angels to be bowed vnto Angel standing in the way with a drawne sword and he adored him flat to the ground Protestants We must beware that we nether adore nor worship Not to be bowed vnto Angels He could not fall downe to the Angel without diminishing Gods honour See art 11. Scripture Nether take thou away thy mercie from vs for God to be praied by the names of Saintes Not so to be praied Abraham thy beloued and Isaac thy seruant and Israel the holie one Protestants In the Prophets there is not found anie such inuocation Heare me o God for Abraham God is not to be besought by the names of Saintes See more art 9. Scripture For your selues know how you ought to imitate vs. Saintes to be imitated Not to be imitated God protecteth vs for the Saintes sake Not for their sakes Some Saintes bad power to worke miracles None had such power Santes receaue men into eternall tabernacles They do not receaue Be ye followers of me Protestants These trifles ought not to be sung to the people that they should imitate the Saintes God requireth that we follow his scripture only and not the examples of Saintes See art 12. Scripture I will protect this cittie and saue it for my self and for Dauid my seruant Protestants It is not to be borne that they say through Gods liberalitie and Christs grace the merits of Saints do profit vs to protection See art 10. Scripture And he gaue them power to cure infirmities and to cast out Diuels Protestants God neuer gaue anie man power of working miracles ether mediatly or immediatly See art 16. Scripture Make vnto you freinds of the mammon of iniquitie that when you faile they may receaue you into the eternall tabernacles Protestants VVe must not vnderstand that men shall receaue vs into eternall tabernacles See art 13. Scripture They shal be priests of God and Christ and shall Saints reigne with him reigne with him Protestants The Saints do not reigne with Christ. See art They reigne not with him 16. Scripture And he that shall ouercome and keepe my workes Saintes rule nations vnto the end I will giue him power ouer the nations and he shall rule them with a rodde of yron Protestants It is an errour that Angels or the soules of the They rule them not blessed men are appointed of God to rule and gouerne vs. See art 16. cit CHAPTER V. OF THE SCRIPTVRE OR WORD OF GOD. SCripture Paule according to the wisdome giuen him hath Some things in Scripture are hard written as also in all Epistles speaking in them of these things in which are certaine hard to be vnderstood Protestants Peter saieth not that Paules Epistles are obscure No thing hard no nor that there are some obscure things in Paules Epistles No parte of the Scripture is obscure How can the Scripture be called obscure in anie parte See more art 1. Scripture Iesus began to preach and say Doe pennance for The Ghospel preacheth pennance It preacheth it not the kingdom of heaune is at hand Protestants The Ghospell properly is not a preaching of pennance The Ghospell preacheth not to vs that this or that is to be done or exacteth any thing of vs. See more art 4. Scripture If thou will enter into life keepe the commandments Promiseth life conditionally Protestants The Ghospell promiseth saluation euen to those Not conditionally that haue no good workes at all The Ghospel requireth not workes to saluation See more art 6. Ghospell not contrarie to the law Scripture Doe we then destroie the law by faith God forbid But we establish the law Protestants The Ghospell is truly opposite to the law The law It is contrarie to it aad the Ghospell of themselues wholy fight one with the other See more art 7. Scripture All things must needs be fulfilled which are written Moises law commandeth faith in Christ It commandeth it not Traditions to be kept Not to be kept in the law of Moises and the Prophets and the Psalmes of me Protestants Faith in Christ the law neuer knew The law of Moises commandeth not faith in Christ See more art 8. Scripture Hould the traditions which you haue learnt whether it be by word or by our epistle Protestants VVe care not for vnwritten traditions we acknowledge no word but that which is written See more art 9. CHAPTER VI. OF S. PETER AND THE APOSTLES SCripture Thou art Peter and vpon this rock will I build Church built vpon Peter my Church Protestants Peter is not rock because Christ did not build Not vpon Peter his Church vpon Peter See more art 2. Scripture And I say to thee Thou art Peter And to thee Keyos giuen to Peter I will giue the keyes of the kingdome of heauen Protestants Christ called faith the rock to which rock not to Not giuen to him Peter be gaue these keyâ—s See art 3. Scripture I haue praied for thee Peter that thy faith faile Peters faith failed not It failed not Protestants For a time surely Peters saith failed whiles he denied Christ It is a blasphemous speech that Peter denying Christ did not lese his faith See more art 4. Scripture And the wall of the cittie hauing twelue foundations The Apostles foundations and in them twelue names of the twelue Apostles of the lambe Protestants The Apostles were not the foundations See Not foundations more art 5. Scripture He that heareth you heareth me The Apostles simply to be heard Not simply to be heard Protestants The Apostles be not simply to be heard but to be examined according to the rule of Scripture S. Paules
Soules be already fully happie they may easily harken to vs and request helpe of God So that for to bereaue vs of the praiers of Saints they bereaue them of their heauenlie felicitie THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely affirmeth that the Saints are now before the throne of God and in his temple and that the good theefe was in paradise with Christ The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely denie that Saints enioy their assured felicitie their present glorie and happines and say that their hope is differred vnto the last daye that all the Saints sleepe vnto the last day and know not what is done that they as yet enioye not their essentiall glorie and felicitie ART III. WHETHER THE GLORIE OF all the Saints be equall SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. 1. Corina 15. ver 41. One indeed glorie of the sunne an other Saints differ in glorie glorie of the moone and other glorie of the starres For starre differeth from starre in glorie so also the resurrection of the dead CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE C. Bellarm. l. 3. de Iustif c. 16. The testimonies of the Scripture do teach that the rewards in heauen are not equall PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Peter Martyr in 1. Cor. 15. v. 32. But if God in giuing euerlasting No degrees of reward life do not respect the worth of our workes whence shall we gather these degrees of rewards Againe our aduersaries haue deuised this distinction of substantiall and accidentall reward They shall haue the brightnes of the sunne that is equally Equall glorie the greatest glorie Pareus l. 5. de Iustif c. 20. The Papists do feigne diuers degrees of eternall life But whence haue they the degrees which they make Perkins in Galat. 1. tom 2. All the elect enjoy equall essentiall Equall essentiall glorie glorie Caluin in Matth. 20. Some Protestant interpreters do gather this summe Because the heauenlie inheritance is not gotten by merite of workes but is giuen freely that the glorie of all shal be equall THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that the dead shall rise as differēt in glorie as one starre differeth from an other The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that there is no distinction of substantiall or accidentall glorie that the substantiall glorie of all the elect shal be equall that there are no degrees of euerlasting life no degrees of reward in heauen that all shall equally enioy the greatest glorie Which some Protestants confesse to be repugnant to Scripture See lib. 2. c. 30. ART XX. WHETHER ANGELS AND Saints in heauen pray for vs SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Zacharie 1. v. 12. And the Angel of our Lord answered and Angels pray for vs. saied O Lord of hosts how long wilt thou not haue mercie on Hierusalem and on the citties of Iuda with which thou hast beene angrie 2. Machabees 15. v. 12. And the vision was in this manner And Saints Onias who had beene the high preist a good and benigne man stretching forth his hands praied for all the people of the Iewes v. 14. This is a louer of his brethren and of the people of Israel this is he that praieth much for the people and for the whole cittie Hieremie the Prophet of God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent sess 25. cap. de Inuocat saieth that their opinion is impious who say that the Saints pray not for vs. PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confession of France art 24. We beleiue that whatsoeuer Saints pray not for vs. men haue feigned of the praier of Saints is nothing else but the frauds and deceit of Sathan The like hath Confes Heluet. c. 5. and Apol. Confes August c. de inuocat Willet Controu 9. quaest 3. pag. 440. Saints do not pray for vs. Whitaker ad Rat. 4. Compiani Whether the Martyrs and Saints in heauen do pray to Christ for vs we know not Zuinglius in Explanat art 20. There cannot be alledged out of the Bible any doctrin or exāple that proueth Saints in heauen to pray for vs. If as you feigne they pray for vs they will moue God nothing For it is not done from the heart Bullinger Decade 4. Serm. 5. The Scripture teacheth not Angels pray not for vs. that Angels pray De Origin cultus Diuorum cap. 15. It becometh not the Saints taking to themselues the office of Christ to pray for vs. Caluin 3. Instit c. 20. § 21. What Angel or Diuel euer tould any man any sillable of this praier of Saints which they feigne In 1. Tim. 2. v. 5. It is a mere fiction bred in the braines that the dead pray for vs. Daneus Controu 7. p. 1311. They request nothing of God Nether in generall nor in particuler ether in generall or in particular for the necessities of those that liue on earth Polanus in Disp priuat disp 25. The Saints departed pray not God for the liuing ether in generall or in particular Vorstius in Antibellarm pa. 281. We denie that the holie Angels and especially the soules of the Iust departed hence do pray in particular for our necessities Pareus in Colloq Swal 3. They should sinne if they They should sinne if they praied for vs. praied for vs. Because they should both accuse God of vnmercifulnes as if he heard not sufficiently Christs praiers and also should reproue Christ of weaknes and fluggishnes THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that an Angel and Onias and Hieremie after their death did pray for the people The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that nether Angels nor Saints pray for vs that it becometh not them to pray for vs that they should sinne if they praied for vs that they do it not frō their heart that they pray nether in generall nor in particular for vs that the praier of Saints is a fiction fraude and deceit of the diuell Which is so opposite to Scripture as some Protestants acknowledge it See lib. 2. c. 30. ART V. WHETHER SAINTS IN heauen care for our matters SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 2. Machabees 15. ver 12. and 15. And the vision was in this Saints haue care for vs. manner And that Hieremie put forth his right hand and gaue vnto Iudas a sword of gould saying Take the holie sword a gift from God wherewith thou shalt ouerthrow the aduersaries of my people Israel 1. Cor. 13. v. 8. Charitie neuer falleth away 2. Peter 1. vers 15. And I will do my diligence you to haue often after my decease also that you may keepe a memorie of these things CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarm. l. 1. de Sanctis c. 18. The Angels pray for vs and haue care of vs in particuler therefore much more the spirits of holie men PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Tindal in Fox Acts p. 1137. What buildest thou Churches Saints be not our freinds foūdest Abbies Chauntries and Colleges in the honour of Saints to my Mother S. Peter Paul and Saints that be dead to make of them thy freinds They need it
God be in your iourney and his Angel accompanie you Luke 16. ve 24. Christ ether in a historie or in a parable maketh the rich man thus praying Father Abraham haue mercie on me And v. 27. Then Father I beseech the that thou wouldest send c. And nether he nor Abraham condemneth this praier as impious or idolatrous but onely reiecteth it as two late Apocalyps 1. v. 4. 5. S. Ihon thus praieth Grace to you and peace from him that is and that was and shall come and from the seuen spirits which are in the sight of his throne and from Iesus Christ who is the faithfull witnesse CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 25. c. de Inuocat It is good and profitable humbly to call vpon the Saints that reigne together with Christ PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE The English Articles art 22. The doctrin of the Romanists Saints not to be praied vnto touching inuocation of Saints is a fonde thing vainly deuised In like sorte writeth Confes Heluet cap. 5. Wirtenbergica c. de Inuocat Augustana c. 21. Saxonica c. 22. and Articuli Smalcaldici c. de Inuocat Perkins in Serie causarum cap. 21. The inuocation of the Nor Angels Saints and Angels is much more impious So in reform Cath. pag. 251. Rainolds in his Conference c. 1. sect 2. calleth it a most pestilent basiliske Melancthon in Disput to 4. pa. 531. The inuocation of the dead is manifest idolatrie Beza in 1. Ioan. 2. ver 1. The Soules in heauen of Saints departed this life cannot be inuocated without impietie And lib. quaest resp vol. 1. affirmeth that the inuocation of Angels and dead Saints is impious idolatrie The Like say Protestants commonly THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Iacob made praier to any Angel besought an Angel with teares that Tobie praied an Angel that the rich man inuocated Abraham that S. Ihon praied vnto the seuen spirits which are before the throne of God The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that the inuocation of Angels or Saints is a found thing vainly deuised impious idolatrous and most pestilent ART IX WHETHER GOD BE TO BE praied vnto by the names of Saints SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Exod. 32. ver 11. and 13. But Moises besought the Lord his God praied by names of Saints God saying Remember Abraham Isaac and Israel thy seruants to whome thou swarest by thine owne selfe saying I will multiplie your seed as the starres of heauen Psal 131. v. 10. For Dauid thy seruants sake turne not away the face of thy Christ 2. Paralipomen 6. v. vlt. Remember the mercies of Dauid thy seruant Daniel 6. ver 35. Nether take thou away thy mercie from vs for Abraham thy beloued and Isaac thy seruant and Israel thy holie one CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 1. de Sanctis cap. 19. In the ould testament men prayed God and alledged the merits of Saincts which were departed that their praiers might be holpen by them PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confession of Saxonie c. 22. saieth that in the Prophets Not to be so praied there is not found any such inuocation Heare me O God for Abraham Confession of Bohemia art 2. They teach that God is to be praied and inuocated by the name of Christ onely Caluin 3. Instit c. 20. § 21. In Papistrie God is besought by the names of Saints Ibid. Their merits are obtruded for to purchase Gods good will The like teach commonly all Protestants So Perkins reform Catholik Contr. 14. p. 257. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Moises praied God by the names of Abraham Isaac and Iacob that Azarias in Daniel did the same that Salomon praied God for Dauids sake and for his mercies The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that there is no such kinde of praier in the Prophets Heare me ô God for Abrahams sake that God is to be praied vnto onely by Christs name that to pray God by the names or merits of Saints is vnlawfull ART X. WHETHER GOD TAKE MERcie on men for the merits of Saints SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMITH 3. Reg. v. 4. But for Dauids sake our Lord his God gaue him a God hath mercie for the Saints sake lampe in Hierusalem that he might raise vp his sonne after him and establish Hierusalem because Dauid had done right in the eies of our Lord. 4. Reg. 19. ver 34. And I will protect this cittie and I will saue it for my selfe and for Dauid my seruant CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Prompt Cathol in Festo Om. Sanctorū The Scripture by manie exāples doth shew the merits of Saints by which the godlie are holpen C. Bellarm. l. 2. de Missa c. 8. We aske mercie of God by the merits and praiers of Saints through the mediation of Christ PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Apologia Confess Augustan c. de Inuoc We thinke that we ought not to trust that the merits of Saints are applied vnto vs that for them God is reconciled to vs. Whitaker l. 9. cont Dur. sect 38. We know that you are God hath not mercie for the Saints sake blasphemous and iniurious to Christ who pray to Saints that their merits may helpe you Caluin 3. Instit c. 20. § 21. In Papistrie Now and then the merits of Saints are obtruded for to get Gods good will De vera reform p. 339. It is not to be borne that which they say that through Gods liberalitie and Christs grace merits of Saints do profit vs for protection and obtayning of fauour Perkins ref Cathol Cōtr. 14. p. 266. We vtterlie denie that we are helped by merits of Saints ether liuing or departed THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that God did good to Abias Dauids great graundchild for Dauids sake and because Dauid had done right in Gods sight that is for the good deeds or merits of Dauid that he protected Hierusalem for himselfe and for Dauid The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that God is not reconciled vnto vs for the merits of Saints that it is blasphemous to say that the merits of Saints do helpe vs that they profit vs not ether for protection or obtayning of fauour ART XI WHETHER ANGELS OR SAINTS are to be worshipped with the bowing of our bodie SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Gen. 19. v. 1. And the twoe Angels came to Sodom at euen and Lot sitting in the gates of the cittie who when he had seene Angels Worshipped them rose vp and went to meete them and adored prostrate on the ground and saied I beseech you my Lords turne into the house of your seruant Numbers 22. v. 31. Forewith our Lord opened the eyes of Balaam and he saw the Angel standing in the way with a drawne sword and he adored him flat to the ground Iosue 5. v. 13. When Iosue had seene an Angel and asked him who he was and the Angel had answered I am a Prince of the hoaste of our Lord Iosue fell flat to the
God is idolatrie and horrible blasphemie to call our bessed Ladie our hope ART XV. WHETHER SAINTS HAD power to worke miracles SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Matth. 10. ver 1. And hauing called his twelue disciples together Some Saints had power to doe miracles he gaue them power ouer vncleane spirits that they should cast them out and should cure all manner of disease and all manner of infirmitie Marke 3. ver 15. And he gaue them power to cure infirmities and to cast out diuels 1. Corin. 12. v. 9. To one certes by the spirit is giuen the word of wisdome to an other the grace of doing cures in one spirit to an other the working of miracles CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 4. de Eccles c. 14. How could God more plainly expresse his mynd then by giuing to one the singular guift of miracles PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Perkins in Gal. 3. v. 3. God neuer gaue any man the power of Neuer man had power to worke miracles working miracles ether mediatly or immediatly Vrsinus in Catechismo q. 99. The power of working miracles is not transfused into Saints therefore metaphorically they are saied to worke them Beza in 1. Cor. 12. v. 6. But in doing of miracles if we consider the worke it selfe Gods power doth worke without any communication at all which he imparteth not euen to the Angels themselues What then will some say Were the saints of God like stocks blocks in the working of miracles No. For ether by their praiers they obtained the miracles of God or vnderstāding Gods will by inward grace or peculiar reuelation they declared it but so that no power of theirs did in any sorte concurre as efficient cause to the working of the miracles Piscator in Thes l. 2. p. 373. Doth God imparte to any creature the power of working miracles We denie it because the power of working miracles is omnipotencie it selfe THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Christ gaue the Apostles power to cure all manner of diseases infirmities that to some is giuen the grace of working miracles Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely say that God neuer gaue to any creature the power of working miracles ether mediatly or immediatly that he imparteth not to Saints the power of working miracles that no power in them concurreth as efficient cause to the working of miracles but onely the power that is in God that all power of working miracles is omnipotencie it selfe and neuer imparted to any creature ART XVI WHETHER SAINTS DO reigne with Christ SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Apocal. 5. v. 10. Thou hast made vs to our God a kingdome and preists and we shall reigne vpon the earth Apocal. 20. ver 6. They shal be preists of God and of Christ Saints reigne with Christ and shall reigne with him a thousand years c. 22. v. 5. Our Lord God doth illuminate them and they shall reigne for euer and euer Apocal. 2. v. 26. And he that shall ouercome and keepe my Haue power ouer nations workes vnto the end I will giue him power ouer the nations and he shall rule them with a rodde of yron Cap. 3. vers 21. He that shall ouercome I will giue vnto him to sitte with me in my throne as I also haue ouercome and haue sitten with my Father in his throne CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarm. lib. 1. de Sanctis cap. 18. We learne that the soules of holie men after their death before the resurrection do receaue power ouer nations and do rule them and sitte in the throne of Christ that is do with him gouerne the whole worlde PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Reineccius tom 4. Armaturae c. 7. The Saints do not reigne Saints reigne not with Christ Doe not rule nations with Christ The like hath Vorstius in Antibel p. 298. Pareus in Collegio Theol. 9. disput 18. saieth that it is an errour to say That as Angels so the soules of blessed men are appointed of God to rule and gouerne vs. Of the same opinion are all other Protestants who say that the Saints in heauē nether know nor care what is done on earth THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Saints reigne with Christ gouerne nations sit in Christs throne Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely say that Saints reigne not with Christ are not appointed of God to rule and gouerne vs know not nor care not what is done on earth ART XVII WHETHER ANIE SAINT were full of grace SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Luc. 1. v. 28. the Angel saieth to our B. Ladie Haile full of grace Act. 36. ver 28. Consider therefore brethren seuen men of you Some Saints full of grace of good testimonie full of the holie Ghost and wisdome whome we may appoint ouer this businesse And v. 8. And Stephen full of grace and fortitude did great wonders CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME S. Thomas 3. part q. 27. art 5. The B. Virgin Marie obtained such fulnesse of grace that she was nighest to the authour of grace PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Illyricus in Lucae 1. v. 28. cit It is ill translated Ful of grace None full of grace For Christ alone is full of grace and trueth Caluin in Lucae 1. v. 15. expoundeth Full of grace Aboue the ordinarie course Of the same mynd also are other Protestants who ether denie that the Angel saluted our B. Ladie Full of grace or denie that we haue anie inherent iustice or grace in vs as we shall see hereafter THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that our ladie and S. Stephen was full of grace and that others were full of the holie Ghost And Catholiks say the same Protestants saye that Christ alone was full of grace and that others haue no grace or iustice in them A SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER OF ANGELS or Saints It appeareth out of that which hath beene rehearsed in this chapter that Protestants do farre otherwise describe vnto vs Angels and Saints then the holie Scripture and Catholiks doe For according to the Scripture and Catholiks they are perfectly iust and perfectly doe the will of God but not according to Protestants In the verdict of the Scripture and Catholiks they pray for vs haue care of our matters heare our praiers In the opinion of Protestants they do none of these According to the Scripture and Catholiks they are to be praied vnto to be worshipped to be imitated of vs and God is to be inuocated by their names who also for their good deeds their sake doth good vnto vs but according to Protestants none of all these things belong vnto them In the doctrin of the Scripture and Catholiks they enioy their heauenlie felicitie reigne with Christ and some of them had power to doe miracles but in the Protestants Doctrin they nether enioy their heauenly happines nor reigne with Christ nor anie of them had or can haue power to worke miracles Protestants therefore steale from Angels and Saints Protest steale from Saints Power
of the Anthropomorphites then thou canst obiect it to vs in this mysterie For the Anthropomorphites in no place of Scripture had an expresse word which directly saied God hath a bodie We haue a most expresse word wherewith Christ saied most directly of that which he gaue to his Apostles This is my bodie The Anthropomorphites had no expresse word which was of purpose spoakē to tell vs what God was we haue an expresse word spoaken purposely to this end and onely to this end to tell vs what the Eucharist is The Anthropomorphites had no expresse word which anie circunstances of moment did conuince to be vnderstood in their proper sense we haue an expresse word which all circustances do confirme ought to be vnderstood in their natiue and vsuall signification The Anthropomorphites had a word but as a thing which the very light of reason did shew to be otherwise then the word did signifie we haue the word of a new thing neuer heard of before and which can no way be knowne by the light of reason but onely by the word of God Finally to omit al other differences taken from the Church Fathers and Councels the Anthropomorphites had the word of a matter which the Scripture other where most manifestly denieth we haue the word of a matter which Deuter. 4. Actor 7. Ioan. 4. the Scripture no where directly ether clearely or obsculy denieth nether the deniall thereof can any way be wroūg out of the Scripture but by adding a false humane principle and by making a deceitfull humane argument Thus manie and thus great differences are there betwene the word wherewith we make the Eucharist the bodie of Christ and the word wherewith the Anthropomorphites made God to haue a bodie as I thinke are not betwene the word which the Anthropomorphites alledged and the word wherewith anie other article of Christian faith is proued And thus much touching the first argument taken from the opposition betwixt the words of the holie Scripture and of Protestants in 260. articles and such words of the Scripture as were spoaken of purpose for to tell vs what we were to beleiue and in their open and plaine sense which they manifestly shew and in which such words vse to be spoaken and vnderstood of men which argument as a foundation of all the rest that follow shal be included in euerie one of them CHAPTER II. THAT PROTESTANTS CONFESSE that they contradict the sense of those words which the Catholik Church manie ages agoe and manie of themselues beleiue to be the words of God THE second argument wherewith we will proue that Protestants contradict the true sense of the holie Scripture we will take from their confession wherein they confesse that they contradict the sense of those words of which some of them to let passe all other proofes are acknowledged by diuers Protestants and all of them were manie ages agoe iudged by the Catholik Lutherans confesse that their doctrine is against S. Iames Epistle Church to be a parte of the holie Scripture For Luther and the Lutheran Protestants do confesse that the cheifest point of Protestancie to wit of Iustification by onelie faith doth verilie contradict the Epistle of S. Iames where he saieth Yee see that a man is iustified by workes and not by faith onely For thus writeth Luther in his Preface vpon that Epistle I iudge it to be the writing of no Apostle for this cause First because directly against S. Paul and all other Scripture it attributeth iustification to workes And in Luther saieth S. Iames doated c. 22. Gen. tom 6. fol. 282. Iames concludeth ill It followeth not as Iames doateth Therefore the fruites do iustifie let our aduersaries therefore be packing with their Iames. Melancthon de Sacris Concion to 2. fol. 23. But if they cannot be mittigated by anie exposition as those words of Iames Yee see c. these absolutely are not to be admitted Magdelburgenses Cētur 1. l. 2. c. 4. col 54. The Epistle of Iames swarueth not a litle from the analogie of Apostolik doctrine whiles it ascribeth iustification not to faith onely but to workes And Centur. 2. c. 4. col 71. The Epistle of Iames attributeth iustice to workes contrarie to Paul and all other Scriptures Schlusselburg lib. 1. Theol. Caluin art 15. fol. 50. Iames contrarie to Paul attributeth iustice to workes And tom 8. Catal. Haeret. pag. 500. he saieth of S. Iames. He fighteth directly with Paul and all the rest of the Scripture by giuing iustice before God to mans workes The same confesse Pomeranus and Vitus Theodorus cited by Coccius to 1. lib. 6. art 23. and Pappus cited by Gretser l. 1. de verbo Dei c. 18. and the same is insinuated by Hunnius de Iustific pag. 219. Wherevpon Daneus in Enchirid. Augustini c. 67. saieth It troubleth manie now a dayes so that some haue cast out the Epistle of Iames others haue called it straweish And Pareus l. 4. de Iustif c. 18. Luther could not accord Iames with Paul but by casting away the whole Epistle Beza also in Iac. 2. v. 14. Manie haue cast away this Epistle for this cause as if it were contrarie to true doctrine Nether do onelie Lutherans iudge thus of S. Iames his Epistle but also some Sacramentaries For Musculus de locis tit de Some Sacramentaries reiect Sainct Iames. Iustificat saieth That impertinentlie he alledgeth the examples of Abraham That he confoundeth the word of faith and setteth downe a sentence different from Apostolicall doctrine And ib. tit de Scriptur pa. 172. plainelie professeth that he houldeth it not for authenticall Scripture And the Confession Heluet. c. 15. saieth The same saied he Iames not contradicting S. Paul otherwise he were to be reiected And neuerthelesse commonly all Sacramentaries account S. Iames Epistle to be a parte of holie Scripture in so much as the English French and Flemish Protestants haue put it in their Confessions as a point of their faith Wherefore thus I argue in forme what contradicteth the Epistle of S. Iames contradicteth the holie Scripture The cheifest point of Protestancie touching Iustification by onely faith cōtradicteth the Epistle of S. Iames Therefore it contradicteth the holie Scripture The Maior or first Proporsition is not onely beleiued and tought of all Catholiks but also commonelie of Sacramentaries And the Minor or second Proposition is graunted by the Lutherans In like sorte all Protestants acknowledge their doctrine Protestants confesse that they teach contrarie to Machab. Tobie c. of not praying for the dead to be contrarie to those words of 2. Machab. c. 12. It is a holie and holesome cogitation to pray for the dead that they may be loose from their sinnes Wherevpon Caluin in Antidoto Concil Trident. sess 4. p. 265. saieth Out of the 2. of Machabes both Purgatorie will be proued and the Intercession of Saints out of Tobie Satisfactions Exorcismes and what not They will borrow no few matters of Ecclesiasticus
pastors as is shewed in the saied booke c. 2. cit and Caluin in Ezechiel c. 3. v. 9. saieth that Papists chalenge the name of the Church because they pretend a continuall succession And indeed saieth he we are forced to confesse that they haue the ordinarie ministerie And who can denie but the true Pastors of Gods Church are true owners of Gods worde which they haue authoritie to preach Thereby they confesse that Catholiks are true possessors of the holie Scripture For thus writeth Luther to 2. Germ. fol. 279. cited by Scarpius in Eccles c. 6. VVe confesse that vnder Poperie are manie Christian goods yea all Christian good and that it came from thence to vs. Namely we confesse that in Poperie is true holie Scripture true baptisme true office of preaching true Sacrament of the altar true keyes to forgiue sinnes true Catechisme Nay I say that in Poperie is true The kernell of Christianitie in Poperie Christianitie yea the very kernell of Christianitie and manie great Saintes And Hall Chalmeley and Batterfeild graunt that Luther wrote thus and seeme to allow it Luther also to 6. in c. 28. Genes saieth we confesse that Papists haue the Church because they haue baptisme absolution the text of the Ghospel and there are manie godlie men amongest them The eight proofe shal be from the Confession of such 8. title Confession of strangers as nether are Catholiks nor Protestants For as Vorstius writeth in Antibell p. 181. Iewes Turkes and Pagans do think that the Christian religion consisteth cheefly in Poperie And Whitaker Cont. 2. q. c. 2. No other famous Church can be named in these latter times which was thought to be the Church and was called the Church but the Roman Church Nether let anie think that such as want faith can not be sufficient iudges in this matter For albeit they be not sufficient iudges in the question of the trueth of doctrin yet are they sufficient in question of facte as this is And in this Ioseph lib. Antiq. Euseb l. 7. c. 24. sorte the Heathens in the time of the ould law iudged betwene the Iewes and the Samaritans and in the time of the Ghospel betwene the Catholiks and the Samosatenians And as Christians can iudge what kind of Mahometans are the true owners of the Alcoran though they think not the Alcoran to conteyne true doctrin So may Infidels iudge what kinde of Christians be true owners of the Ghospel though they beleeue not the Ghospel to be the worde of God The ninth proof may be taken from the agreement of 9. title Agreement with Scripture the Cath. doctrin both in words and sense with the holie Scripture as shall appeare in this booke Which proofe though taken alone doe not conuince that Catholiks are true owners of the Scripture yet in conuinceth that they are true owners rather then Protestants who so farre disagree from the Scripture both in words and sense The tenth proofe shal be that Protestants against these 10. title weaknes of Protest Proofes so manie and so forcible proofes for the Catholiks can bring no other proofe for their right to Scripture then that they haue the true doctrin of Scripture Which argument taken alone is as I shewed at large in my saied booke De Authore c. lib. 2. c. 15. a fond Sophisme or Foularie First because Schismatiks haue the true doctrin of Scripture as I there proued by reason by the testimonie of holie Fathers and the confession of Protestants and yet are no true owners of the Scripture because they are no true mēbers of the Church as I there also proued Secondly for Protestants to proue that they be true owners of the Scripture because they haue the true doctrin thereof is to proue one vnknowne and false thing by an other as vnkowne and false Which is not to proue at all because all proofe must be from a thing more knowne Thirdly they nether proue that they haue the doctrin of the Scripture by expresse words of Scripture for these are quite against them as shal be shewed in this booke nor by plaine inference out of the words of Scripture as appeareth by the Catholiks answers vnto all their proofes nor finally they haue proued any thing before a lawfull iudge but all their proofes are such as euerie Heretike maketh Besides if truth of doctrin doe proue true right to Scripture it farre more maketh for Catholiks and no more for Protestants then for anie other Heretiks Out of all which hath beene saied in this Chapter it is most euident that if the light of reason may be iudge in this matter Catholiks must needs be counted the true owners of the holie Scripture because they haue all the foresaied Titles then the which both fewer and weaker would make a claime to worldlie matters out of all question of all which Protestants can pretend none but the last Secondly it is euident that if Catholiks be the true If Cath. be true owners of the Scripture all controuersies are ended owners of the Scripture the sacred testament of Christ they are also true owners of the holie Sacraments of the keyes of heauen to binde and loose sinnes of the means of saluation and of all the goods which Christ hath by his will and testament bequeathed to his Church For vndoubtedly all these things pertaine to them to whome Christs testament doth belong Thirdly it is euident that if Catholiks be true owners of the Scriptures Protestants be vniust vsurpers of them as Iewes Turkes and Infidels are and haue no more right to keep or vse them against Catholiks then theeues haue to vse true mens goods or weapons against them For cleare it is that Catholiks and Protestants are opposite Churches as I haue shewed in the foresaied booke De Authore lib. 1. c. 2. and lib. 2. c. 6. and that one of them is a false Church whereas the Scriptures were giuen and belong to one onely Church Wherefore we may well say to Protestants as Tertullian de Prescript c. 37. saied to Heretiks of his time VVho are you when and whence came you what doe you in mine being not mine By what right Marcion Luther doest thou fell my woods By what licence Valentin Caluin doest thou turne away my water By what authoritie Apelles Zuingle doest thou charge my bounds It is my possession what doe you strangers here sow and feed at your pleasure And the same say we to Protestants Let them first shew what right they haue to Scriptures before they argue out of them let them render vs our weapons or shew what iust title they haue to them before they fight with them against vs. For as the same Tertull. saieth c. 15. Here we first stop them that they are not to be admitted to anie dispute of Scriptures VVe must see whether they may haue them or no to whom belongeth the Scripture that he be not admitted to it to whom it appertaineth not And c. 19. The
not yea they be not thy freinds Luther Postilla in Dom. 9. post Trinit Nether are they thy freinds but theirs of whome in their life time they receiued benefit Caluin 3. Instit c. 20 § 23. For what Saint is to be thought Take no care of vs. to take care of the safetie of the people Moises giuing it ouer who whiles he liued farre surpassed all others in this point In Luc. 16. vers 19. Here the Papists are fondly subtill whiles they will proue that the dead haue care of the liuing which is a stincking cauill In Zachar. ver 12. We know that the offices of charitie Charitie onely for this life are restrained to the course of this life Which also hath Zuinglius respons ad Luther to 2. fol. 379. Beza in Lucae 15. v. 10. Who can therefore rightly perswade himselfe or others that the Soules of Saints in heauen haue care of those things which are done on earth or that they know theÌ„ and much lesse that they ought to be praied vnto Pareus in Colloq Swal 3. The Scripture denieth that the Care not for our necessities Saints in heauen know and care for our necessities THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that charitie neuer falleth away that Hieremie had care of the people after his death The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that the offices of charitie are restrained to this present lâ—fe that Saints in heauen are not our freinds that they haue no care of vs or of our necessities ART VI. WHETHER ANGELS AND Saints heare our praiers and know our affaires SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Tobie 12. vers 12. the Angel saieth When thou didst pray Angels heare our praiers with teares and didst burte the dead and left thy dinner and didst hide the dead by day in thy house and by night didst burie them I offered thy praier to our Lord. Luke 15. vers 10. So I say to you there shal be ioy before the Know our repentance Angels of God vpon one sinner that doth pennance And cap. 16. vers 19. Abraham being dead saieth They haue Moyses and the Prophets Apocal. 4. vers 1. After these things I looked and behould a doore open in heanen and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet speaking to me saying Come vp hither and I Know things to come will shew thee the things which must be done quickly after these And c. 19. v. 1. and 2. After these things I heard as it is were the voice of many multitudes in heauen saying Alleluia praise and And punishments of the wicked glorie and power is to our God Because true and iust are his iudgements which hath iudged of the great harlot that hath corrupted the eorth in her whordome and hath reuenged the blood of his seruants of her hands CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 1. de Sanctis c. 20. It is not true that Saints do not know what we aske of them PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker ad Ration 4. Campiani It is certaine that the Saints know not what we doe Heare not our praiers Saints do not know what we doe Apologia Confess Augustan c. de Inuocat It cannot be saied that Saints do heare our praier Caluin 3. Instit cap. 20. § 24. Who tould that they haue so long eares that they can stretch them vnto our praiers so quicke eyes that they can perceaue our necessities And in 1. Cor. 13. v. 8. The Saints do not know our estate Beza in 1. Ioan. 2. vers 1. The blessed spirits haue no knowledge of things done here below And l. quaestion respons vol. 1. It is easie to refute as a foolish and grosse fiction that they say that God reuealeth our praiers to the blessed spirits THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the Angel heard the praier and knew the good deeds of Tobias that the Angels know and reioyce of the pennance of a sinner that Abraham knew of Moises and the Prophets that Saints knew the wickednes of the great harlot and Gods punishment vpon her The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Saints know not what we doe that they heare not our praiers perceaue not our necessities know not our estate that to say that God reuealeth to them our praiers is a foolish and grosse fiction ART XVII WHETHER ANGELS OR Saints in heauen do offer our praiers to God SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Tobie 12. vers 12. cit the Angel saieth When thou didest Angels offâ—r our praiers to God pray with tears I offered thy praier to our Lord. Apocal. 5. v. 8. And when he had opened the booke the foure beasts and the soure and twentie Seniours fell before the lambe hauing euerie one harpes and goulden vials full of odours which are the praiers of saints And c. 8. v. 3. And an other Angel came and stood before the altar hauing a goulden censar and there were giuen to him manie incenses that he should giue of the praiers of all Saints vpon the altar of gould which is before the throne of God CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Cardin. Bellarmin lib. 1. de Sanctis cap. 16. Caluin intimateth that not onely the Saints but nether the Angels can offer our prayers to God which is against most plaine Scripture PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Willet Controuers 9. quaestion 3. pag. 440. That Saints They offer not vp our praiers should offer vp our speciall praiers and make particuler request for vs to God is no where found in the Scripture but rather the contrarie Reineccius tom 4. Armaturae c. 7. The words of the Angel Tobiae loc cit are spoken after our fashion For there is no need that Angels should offer our praiers to the Lord because God is not farre of Caluin 3. Institut cap. 20. § 20. Christ hauing entred into the Sanctuarie of heauen till the end of the world alone doth offer to God requests of the people which sitteth a farre of in the entrie THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that the Angel offered Tobies praier to God that the foure and twentie seniors did offer the praiers of holie men before the lambe that an Angel did offer the praiers of all Saints before the throne of God The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that Angels do not offer our praiers to the Lord that Saints do not offer our speciall praiers to God that Christ onely offereth to God the praiers of the people ART VIII WHETHER ANGELS OR Saints be to be praied vnto SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Genes 48. vers 16. Iacob thus praierh The Angel that Angels praied vnto deliuereth me from all euils blesse these children and be my name called vpon them the names also of my fathers Abraham and Isaac Osee 12. v. 4. And he Iacob preuailed against the Angel Iacob praied an Angel and was strenghned and he wept and besought him Tobie 5. vers 21. And Tobias answering saied well may you walke and
ground and adoring saied c. CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 25. By the Images which we kisse and to which we put of our hatts we worshippe the Saints whose images they are PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confessio Mulhusnia art 10. We dislike the veneration Not to be worshipped of Saints And Heluet. c. 5. We nether adore nor worshippe nor inuocate the Saints in heauen Perkins reform Cathol Controu 14. c. 2. p. 249. Because No not with ciuill worshippe Angels appeare not now as in former times not so much as ciuill adoratiō in anie bodilie gesture is to be done vnto them We denie that anie ciuill worshippe in bending of the knee or prostrating of the bodie is to be giuen to the Saints Humfrey ad Ration 3. Campiani pag. 263. Vigilantius tought that Saints are not to be reuerenced nor that we ought Not to be reuerenced superstitiously to runne to their monuments We say the same Whitaker Contr. 2. q. 6. c. 3. Papists worshippe Angels and the Saints Luther postilla in Domin 23. post Trinit For what other was the worshippe and reuerence of Saints but a diuelish thing Caluin 1. Instit c. 12. § 3. He could not fall downe to the Angel without diminishing of Gods glorie Bullinger Decad. 4. form 9. We must be ware that we nether adore inuocate or worshippe Angels The same say Protestants commonly THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that Lot seing Angels adored prostrate on the ground that Iosue hearing of an Angel that he was a Prince of Gods hoaste fell flat on the groūd and adored that Balaam adored flat to the ground an Angel and yet was not reprehended therefore ether of the Angel or of the Scripture Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely teach that it is not lawfull to reuerence venerate adore worshippe or bow to the Angels or Saints but it is a diuelish thing And yet Luther himselfe thus writeth epist ad Erphurdienses tom 7. fol. 500. I do not thinke that they are to be reiected or condemned who whorshippe Saints without presuming trust For whatsoeuer they doe to Saints they do to Christ. Nether can it be but Christ is partaker of the honour which is giuen to Saints ART XII WHETHER SAINTS BE TO be imitated of vs SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 11. v. 1. Be ye followers of me as I also of Christ Philippen 3. ver 17. Be followers of me brethren and obserue Saints to be imitated and followed them that walke so as you haue our forme 2. Thessalon 3. v. 7. For your selues know how you ought to imitate vs. Hebr. 13. v. 7. Remember your Prelats who haue spoaken the word of God to you the end of whose conuersation beholding imitate their faith CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Lucae 9. v. 54. The faithfull Christians piously and carefully imitate the examples of the holie Fathers PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther Postilla in Festo S. Ioann fol. 378. These trifles Saints not to be imitated or followed ought not be sung vnto the people out of the pulpits in preaching that they should imitate the Saints and follow their footesteppes And in ferijs eiusdem fol. 91. An ould error hath gotten possession and force that we all looke vpon the deeds and liues of Saints and endeauour to follow them thinking like fooles that this is a great pietie The way of the Lord admitteth not examples of Saints but in all things expecteth the commandments of the Lord onely In die Epiphaniae fol. 130. God Nor their examples requireth that we follow his onely Scripture and not the examples of Saints THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that we must follow Saints and imitate them Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely teach that Saints are not to be imitated or followed their examples not to be admitted that it is an errour to looke vpon the liues of Saints and follow them ART XIII WHETHER HOLIE MEN receaue vs into euerlasting tabernacles SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Luc. 16. v. 9. And I say vnto you Make vnto you friends of Holie men receaue vs into Heauen the mammon of iniquitie that when you faile they may receaue you into the eternall tabernacles CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Lucae 16. ver 9. Christ teacheth that they to whome we haue done good do receaue vs into eternall tabernacles that is Christ for thē not onely by reason of the good worke but also for their praiers giueth vs life euerlasting PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther postilla in Dom. 9. post Trinit fol. 107. We must They receaue vs not into Heauen not vnderstand that men shall receaue vs into eternall tabernacles Illyricus in Claue part 2. tractar 6. Pore men are saied to receaue their benefactours into eternall tabernacles whereas this is the deed of the Father alone for the merit of his Sonne Caluin in Lucae 16. vers 9. citat He meaneth not that we must get patrons and intreatours who by their protection may sheild and defend vs. But they do fondely and absurdly who hereupon gather that we are holpen by the praiers or suffrages of the dead THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that holie men to whome we haue done good do receaue vs into eternall tabernacles The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that no men receaue vs into eternall tabernacles that that is the deed of the Father alone that we are not to get patrons or intreatours for vs. ART XIV WHETHER ANIE SAINT may be called our hope SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Thessalon 2. v. 18. For what is our hope or ioy or crowne Saints called our hope of glorie Are not you before our Lord Iesus in his coming For you are our glorie and ioy Ihon 5. v. 45. Thinke not that I will accuse you to the Father there is that accuseth you Moises in whome you trust CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 1. de bonis oper in part c. 15. The B. Virgin is called our hope because after God we trust especially in her intercession PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Caluin in Cōfes p. 109. Many kinds of praiers were brought Not to be so called in which had horrible blasphemies as when the Virgin is termed of infidels the gate of saluation our hope Beza in Ioan. 2. v. 5. Idolatrie hath so farre preuailed that they are not ashamed to call Marie the Queene of heauen their hope and saluation P. Martyr in 1. Cor. c. 3. They call the B. Virgin their hope as if they would put their hope in a creature Pareus in Colloq 3. Swal You salute Marie by the Title of your hope Which salutation tendeth to the dishonour of God THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the Thessalonians were the hope ioy and crowne of glorie of the Apostle before our Lord that the Iews did trust in Moises and yet were not reprehended therefore Catholiks say the like Protestants expressely say that it tendeth to the dishonour of
sect 8. In all these things the Apostles did alledge their testimonie and themselues also as witnesses of that trueth which they tought And l. 3. sect 3. The Apostles were witnesses of their doctrine and they gaue authoritie to their doctrine See him Cont. 4. l. 8. c. 9. PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Controu 1. q. 3. c. 11. God alone is a sufficient witnesse None but God is a sufficient witnesse of himselfe And l. 3. de Scriptura c. 13. sect 3. The people did not beleiue Moises for himselfe but for that diuine and great miracle Beleife was giuen to Moises and Paul not for themselues but for Gods authoritie which appeared in their ministerie And ib. sect 1. The testimonie of the Church as of the Church is but humane And Contr. 1. q. 3. c. 11. cit The iudgment of the Church is humane The same followeth euidently of that which they saied in the former article For if the Apostles doctrine must be examined it is manifest that they are not sufficient witnesses of their doctrine The same Whitaker Contr. 2. q. 4. c. 3. Yea after Christs Not the Apostles ascension and that descent of the Holie Ghost vpon the Apostles manifest it is that the whole Church erred about the vocation of the Gentils and not the vulgar Christians onely but euen the very Apostles and Doctors These were great errours and yet we see that they were in the Apostles euen after the Holie Ghost had descended vpon them THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely affirmeth that the Apostles had the holie Ghost giuen them to testifie of Christ that they were ioyned with the holie Ghost witnesses of Christ that they were witnesses appointed of God that their testimonie is true that all may beleiue through Saint Ihon that the faithfull beleiued God and Moyses The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that none but God is a sufficient witnesse of the trueth that nether Paul nor Moises were to be beleiued for themselues that the testimonie of the Church is but humane That the Apostles erred and that greatly euen after the holie Ghost had descended vpon them ART VIII WHETHER THE APOSTLES learnt anie point of Christian doctrine after Christs ascension SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Ihon 16. v. 12. Yet manie things I haue to say to you but you The Apostles learnt some thing after Christ cannot beare them now but when he the Spirit of trueth cometh he shall teach you all trueth CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Ioan. 16. v. 12. By this testimonie is clearly proued that Christ tought not all by word of mouth but that both the Apostles and the Church learnt many things of the Holie Ghost PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Contr. 1. q. 6. c. 10. The holie Ghost did suggest no They learnt nothing other things then those which Christ had tought Caluin in Ioan. 14. vers 26. Marke what all these things are which he promiseth that he Spirit shall teach He saieth He shall suggest or bring to mind whatsoeuer I haue saied Whence it followeth that he shall not be a coyner of new reuelations And 4. Institut c. 8. § 8. That limitation is carefully to be noted where he appointeth the holie Ghost his office to suggest whatsoeuer he had tought by worde of mouth Beza in Ioan. 14. v. 26. The Apostles nether learnt nor tought any point of Christian and sauing doctrine after the departure of the Lord. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that manie things were tould to the Apostles which they could not beare in Christs time that the holie Ghost was to be sent to teach them all trueth The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that the Apostles learnt no point of Christian doctrine after Christs departure that the Holie Ghost reuealed no new thing to them that he suggested no other thing then Christ had tought ART IX WHETHER IVDAS WAS TRVELY a disciple or in the true Church of Christ SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Matth. 10. v. 1. seq And hauing called his twelue disciples Iudas was truely a disciple of Christ together he gaue them c. And the names of the twelue Apostles be these The first Simon who is called Peter and Iudas Iscariot who also betrayed him Et c. 20. v. 14. 47. Marc. 14. v. 10. 43. Luc. 22. v. 3. 47. he is called one of the twelue Ihon 12. v. 14. One therefore of his disciples Iudas Iscariot Actes 1. v. 17. Iudas who was the captaine of them that apprehended Iesus who was numbred among vs and obtained the lot of this ministerie v. 25. Shew of these twoe one whome thou hast chosen to take the place of this ministerie and Apostleship from the which Iudas hath preuaricated And the lot fell vpon Mathias and he was numbred with the eleuen Apostles CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Card. Bellarm. l. 3. de Eccles c. 7. Iudas was once of the true Church for he was an Apostle one of the twelue and called a Bishop of the Prophet Dauid psal 108. Which could not be true vnlesse he had beene of the Church PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Controu 2. q. 1. cap. 7. I answere that the reprobate Iudas neuer of the Catholik Church Iudas was neuer of the true Catholik Church He held for a time a principall place in the outward societie of the Church because he was an Apostle but this made him not of the true Catholik Church But how he was one of the Apostles Austin telleth Tract 61. in Ioan. That how he was one in number not in merit Neuer an Apostle indeed Neuer true member of the Church are in shew not in vertue But what is in shew seemeth to be but is not indeed Daneus Controu 4. c. 2. Iudas Iscariot and Simon Magus were neuer true members of the true Church of God Of the same opinion are Protestants commonly who denie that anie reprobate can be in the true Church as we shall see hereafter c. 8. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Iudas was one of Christs disciples one of the twelue Apostles was numbred amongst them obtained the lot of their ministerie had the place of Apostleship which S. Mathias afterwards had The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Iudas was neuer of the true Catholik Church seemed to be one of the Apostles but was not indeed ART X. WHETHER IVDAS WAS a Bishop SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Actes 1. v. 20. For it is written in the booke of psalmes Be Iudas was a Bishop their habitation made desert and be there none that dwell in it and his Iudas Bishoprick let an other take CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE C. Bellarm. cited in the former article Iudas is called a Bishop of the Prophet Dauid PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Cont. 2. q. 1. c. 7. Iudas was an Apostle therefore no He was no Bishop Bishop because the Apostles were no Bishops The same say other Protestants who denie that the Apostles were
he commandeth them to be heard as legats not as maisters THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the power of keyes was giuen to S. Peter that the Holie Ghost placed Bishops to gouerne the Church that S. Paul had a rodde and power ouer the faithfull could deale hardly and punish all disobedience was Maister of the Gentils and that we ought to be subiect to our Prelats The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that there is no authoritie in the Prelats themselues that the Church hath no rule but mere ministerie that Pastours haue no more iurisdiction ouer the faithfull then Phisicians ouer the sick that they haue no power ouer the consciences but that all authoritie or right of commanding is in God onely and in his worde ART III. WHETHER ANIE ONE PAStour haue authoritie to excommunicate SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Math. 16. v. 19. Thou arte Peter And whatsoeuer thou shalt S. Peter had authoritie to excommunicate And S. Paul binde vpon earth it shal be bound also in heauen 1. Timoth. 16. v. vlt. Of whome is Hymenaeus and Alexander whome I haue deliuered to Sathan that they may learne not to blaspheme CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton Cont. 2. q. 1. art vn The Ecclesiasticall power first principally of it selfe and immediatly is in particular persons PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Beza in Conf. c. 5. sect 43. We must remēber that this power No one man can excommunicate of excommunicating is giuen to no one man but to the whole companie of the Presbyterie Caluin 4. Instit c. 11. § 5. The spirituall power of excommunicating must not be exercised at the pleasure of one man but by the lawfull assemblie § 6. This kinde of power was not in one but in the assemble of the Elders Peter Martyr in 1. Cor. 5. v. 4. So great an Apostle doth not not take vpon him to excōmunicate of himselfe and alone which yet the Pope and manie Bishops dare Bucanus in Institut loco 44. In whome must the power of excommunicating be not in anie one ether Bishop or ordained of the Bishop THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that power of binding was giuen to S. Peter that S. Paul excommunicated or deliuered some to Sathan Catholiks say the same Protestants expressely say that power of excommunicating is in no one mā Bishop or other that S. Paul tooke not vpon to excommunicate of himselfe ART IV. WHETHER PASTOVRS OF the Church haue power to command or make lawes SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Actes 15. v. 28. It hath seemed good to the Holie Ghost and Pastours can command to vs to lay no further burden vpon you then these necessarie things That you abstaine from the things imolated to idols and blood and that which is strangled And ver 41. And he Paul walked through Syria and Cilicia confirming the Churches and commanding them to keepe the precepts of the Apostles and the Ancients 1. Thessalon 4. v. 11. We desire you brethren that you worke with your owne hands as we haue commanded you And Epistol 2. cap. 3. vers 4. And we haue confidence of you in our Lord that the things which we command you both doe and will doe 1. Cor. 7. v. 12. For to the rest I say not our Lord If any brother haue a wife an infidell and she consent to Diuel with him let him not put her away CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 4. de Pontif. c. 17. The Pope and other Bishops can iudge and make lawes PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Caluin in Antidoto Concilij Sess 6. con 20. As for laws of They cannot command the Church let them looke to them we acknowledge one lawmaker who can giue rules of life as we haue our life from him In actor 15. v. 28. The sottish Papists who out of these words would The Church hath no authoritie No power to make lawes proue that the Church hath some authoritie Musculus in locis c. de Magistrat The Church hath no power to make lawes but she is commanded to heare and obey Luther de Captiuit to 2. fol. 76. Nether Pope nor Bishop nor any man hath any right to put a tittle vpon a Christian man vnlesse it be done by his owne consent THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely affirmeth that the Apostles put precepts and burdens vpon the faithfull that S. Paul commanded Christians to keepe them and that himselfe commanded diuers things The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that the Church hath no authoritie of lawmaking hath no power to make laws that no Bishop or other can command a Christian man any thing but what he will himselfe ART VIII WHETHER BISHOPS BE rulers of the Church SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Act. 28. v. 28. The Holie Ghost hath placed you Bishops to Bishops rulers of the Church rule the Church of God 2. Tim. 1. ver 11. I am appointed a preacher and Apostle and Maister of the Gentils 7. c. 5. v. 19. Against a Preists receaue not accusation but vnder twoe or three witnesses CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent sess 23. c. 4. Bishops are put of the Holie Ghost for to rule the Church of God PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Spalatensis or Lohetus Respons ad Marium cap. 1. The true nature of a head and the true nature of a ruler is in no pure No mā ruler of the Church man one or manie nether Monarchically nor Aristocratically Of the same opinion are others as appeareth by what hath beene saied before art 2. and 4. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that Bishops are rulers of the Church that S. Paul was maister of the Gentils that S. Timothe was iudge of Preists The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that no pure man one or manie can be head or true ruler of the Church ART VI. WHETHER DO RVLE THE true Church of God SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Act. 20. v. 28. The holie Ghost hath placed you Bishops to Bishops rule the true Church rule the Church of God which he hath purchased with his owne blood Ephes 4. v. 11. And he gaue other some Pastors and Doctors to the consummation of the Saints vnto the worke of the ministerie vnto the edifying of the bodie of Christ Isaie 62. v. 6. Vpon thy walls Hierusalem I haue appointed watch men CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Ttent Sess 6. c. 1. The Holie Ghost hath put all Bishops of Patriarchall Primatiall Metropolitan and Cathedrall Churches to rule the Church of God which he hath purchased with his blood PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Controu 2. quaest 2. c. 2. The rule of the Catholik Not the true Church Church could yet neuer be seene Againe The Catholik Curch which containeth onely good men can nether be seene nor comen vnto nor saluted And q. 1. c. 10. There are some Prelats who say and do not but these are not of the Catholik Church Bellarmin should remember that Bishops are Pastors of particular Churches not of the Catholik
Children in state of saluation of infidels I leaue to the iudgment of the almightie and iust albeit I can finde no cause of damnation in them De Peccato orig f. 119. Of Christians children we are sure that they are not dāned for originall sinne albeit to cōfesse plainely that opinion seemeth more probable to vs which we taught to wit that we must not rashly condemne the children of Heathens In Elencho fol. 36. We impiously condemne not onely children of Heathens but also of Christians And de Ratione fidei fol. 540. We rashly condemne the children of Christiā parents yea of Heathen parentes Vorstius in Antibellarm p. 542. In this point the Protestāts do not wholy agree but ether say that all children whatsoeuer are through Christs grace saued as Zuinglius and manie more or at least all elect children whether they be borne of faithfull or other parents though not baptized are saued as the most Protestants say And he addeth These mens opinion is much more secure but the sentence of the former is more gentle and probable enough and therefore not roshly to be condemned Hermingius in Enchiridio class 3. p. 322. If the children of Infidels die without baptisme we must leaue them to Gods iudgment The same also followeth out of that which Caluin loco cit Beza ad reprehens Castel vol. 1. p. 502. and others say that childrē of faithfull parents are sanctified and comprehended in the couenant of life vnto the thousand generation THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the children of the faithfull are by nature or natiuitie the children of wrath as others are that death passed vnto all that condemnation passed vnto all The like say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that Christian children are sonnes of God before they be christened that they are borne Saints that originall sinne is not imputed to them that they are holie within the Church and bodie of Christ before they be baptized Saints by supernaturall grace members of Christe from the wombe borne children of the Church and from the wombe Saints before God Likewise they say of Infidels children that they finde no cause of condemnation in them that they are rashly and impiously condemned that all children whosoeuer or at least all elect children though not baptized are saued that such as come of faithfull though after a thousand generations are sanctified and comprehended within the couenant of life Which are so contrarie to Scripture as sometimes Protestants confesse it l. 2. c. 30. and S. Austin saieth L. 3. de Anima c. 9. Do not beleiue do not say do not teach that infants dying before they be baptized may attaine remission of originall sinne if thou wilt be a Catholik ART X. WHETHER THE BAPTISME of S. Ihon and of Christ were the same SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Marc. 1. v. 8. S. Ihon saieth I haue baptized you with water S. Ihons baptisme differēt from Christs but he shall baptize you with the Holie Ghost Act. 19. ver 2. S. Paul saied to them Haue ye receaued the Holie Ghost beleiuing But they saied to him Nay nether haue we heard whether there be a Holie Ghost But he saied In what then were you baptized Who saied In Ihons baptisme vers 5. Hearing these things they were baptized in the name of our Lord Iesus CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE Councel of Trent Sess 7. Can. 1. de baptismo Isanie shall say that Ihons baptisme had the same vertue that the baptisme of Christ be he accursed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Whitaker ad Ration 8. Campiani saieth of the baptisme of S. Ihon and Christ It was the same ceremonie the same doctrin Not different the same grace Willet Cont. 12. q. 7. p. 585. Ihons baptisme was not diuers frō Christs baptisme but was all one with it in propertie and effect Zuinglius de ver falsa relig c. de baptismo It is altogether one baptisme whether you call it Ihons or Christs Et de Baptismo to 2. f. 75. It will appeare that that outward baptisme of water which Iohn vsed agreeth with the externall baptisme of Christ and the Apostles and that there is no difference at all betweene them Caluin in Luc. 3. v. 3. It is false that the baptismes of Ihon and Christ were diuers Beza lib. quaest respons pag. 344. I say that indeed it was one onely and the same baptisme administred first of Ihon and after by Christs commandment Bucanus in Inst Theol. loco 47. What differ the Baptisme of Ihon Baptist and of Christ Not in Author not in substance not in doctrine not in signe or ceremonie not also in effector or signification More of their like sayings in my Latin booke c. 9. art 10. THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that S. Ihons Baptisme was giuen in water Christs baptisme in the Holie Ghost that S. Ihons baptisme was not giuen in the name of the Holie Ghost in so much as they who had beene Baptized with it knew not that there was a Holie Ghost that they who had beene baptized with S. Ihons baptisme were baptized againe with Christs baptisme The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that S. Ihons and Christs baptisme was all one ceremonie one doctrine one grace was not diuers but all one in propertie and effect altogether one that there was no difference at all betweene them not diuers one onely and the same not different in Author substance doctrine signe ceremonie effect or signification ART XI WHETHER THOSE EPHESIANS whereof is spoaken Actor 19. had beene baptized with S. Ihons baptisme SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Act. 19. v. 3. But he S. Paul saied In what thē were ye baptized The Ephesiās baptized with S. Ihons baptisme Who saied In Ihons baptisme v. 5. Hearing these they were baptized in the name of our Lord Iesus CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Actor 19. v. 5. We must beleiue and stedfastly beleiue that those twelue Ephesians had beene before baptized of Ihon. PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker lib. 8. cont Dur. sect 70. I denie that those men They were not baptized with S. Ihone baptisme whereof Luke maketh mention in the Actes were baptized againe Caluin 4. Institut c. 15. § 18. I denie that they were baptized againe Zuinglius de Baptismo to 2. f. 80. Behould an other argument whereby it is demonstrated that those Ephesians were neuer baptized in Ihons outward baptisme Resp ad Hueber f. 104. If thou hadst had any consideration of those things thou wouldst neuer haue come to that madnesse to say that these disciples had beene baptized of Ihon. Beza in Actor 19. v. 2. We must needs say that there is not treated of any peculiar historie of twelue men who were ether baptized or rebaptized of the Apostle or of baptisme Sadeel ad Art 10. Abiurat We no where read that Ihons disciples after his death following Christ were rebaptized of the Apostles THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the saied Ephesians were first baptized
here to wit so farre as that the spirit do struggle against sinne but not ouercome Of the same opinion are others who as before we saw do teach that we ought not to doe good workes For if we ought not doe good workes surely we ought not to ouercome sinne THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that we ought to thinke our selues dead to sinne that sinne ought not to reigne in vs nor we ought to obey the concupiscences thereof The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that the spirit ought to struggle against sinne but not so as it ouercome it ART V. WHETHER ANIE THAT SERVE the flesh do also serue God SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Rom. 8. v 13. If you liue according to the flesh you shall die Liuers according to the flesh shall die Please not God Are of the Diuel v. 8. They that are in the flesh cannot please God Math. 6. v. 24. No man can serue two Maisters 1. Ioan. 3. v. 8. He that committeth sinne is of the Diuel CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE D. Stapleton in Math. 6. v. 24. Who serue God can nether serue the Diuel nor the flesh PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Caluin in Math. 6. v. 24. It is surely true that the faithfull are neuer so wholy obedient vnto God but that now and then they are withdrawne by the vitious lusts of the flesh but because Some seruer◠of the flesh are approued of God they mourne vnder this miserable slauerie and dislike themselues nor serue this flesh otherwise then against their will and striuing their desires and endeauours are approued of God euen as if they did afford him entire obedience In Rom. 8. v. 5. The Apostle testifieth that he accounteth not them carnall who do aspire to heauenlie iustice but who are wholy giuen to the world Beza in Praef. ad Pastores Basil vol. 1. pag. 427. To nill euill and yet to doe it is the parte of Saints who do wrastle Pareus l. 2. de Iustif c. 7. Sonnes of the Diuel are not simply Not all grieuous sinners Sonnes of the Diuel grieuous sinners but obstinat sinners l. 4. cap. 17. Nether the faithfull who sinne by chance or of themselues by weaknesse but such as of themselues giue themselues to sinne serue the Diuel and ought to be called sonnes of the Diuel Scarpe de Iustif Contr. 13. They onely are saied to serue the Diuel and to be his sonnes in whome sinne reigneth and who commit sinne with a full will but the faithfull do not so sinne See also what they say in the next article THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that who serue the flesh shall die nor cāplease God that none can serue twoe maisters that whosoeuer committeth sinne is of the Diuel The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that euen the sonnes of God serue the flesh that the Apostle accounteth none carnall but such as wholy giue themselues to the world that onely obstinat sinners are sonnes of the Diuel that the the faithfull sinning ether of infirmitie or wilfully serue not the Diuel that to nill euill and yet do it is the parte of Saints that they onely serue the Diuel who with full will commit sinne ART VI. WHETHER BY GRIEVOVS sinnes the faithfull fall from grace SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Ioan. 3. v. 8. He that committeth sinne is of the Diuel v. 15. No murderer hath life in him Sinne maketh to fall from grace You know that no murderer hath life euerlasting abiding in himselfe Gal. 5. v. 4. You are euacuated from Christ that are iustified in the law you are fallen from grace CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Session 6. cap. 15. We must teach that grace of iustification once receaued is lost not onely by infidelitie but also with anie other mortall sinne though faith be not lost PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Contr. 4. q. 6. c. 2. But it is more absurd which he S. Peter did not leese grace saieth that Peter by denying Christ lost grace Et Concione vlt. p. 696. To goe from grace that is to obey the concupiscence of the flesh and to resist Gods motions and admonitions is farre from falling from grace Perkins de Baptismo to 1. col 819. This is most worthie of remembrance that the Apostle calleth the Galathians euen in that verie time when they erred in the foundation and euen were gone to an other Ghospell Sonnes of God saying you all are the sonnes of God For hereupon we may truely conclude that not No enormious sinne obscureth grace any enormious sinne nor euerie errour which is committed against the foundation obscurreth the grace and regeneration which maketh the Sonnes of God much lesse extinguish it In Serie Caufarum c. 42. By falls grace and faith are not taken Sinne taketh not away grace away but illustrated cap. 51. It shall appeare out of the word of God that it is farre otherwise thē that grace is extinguished by euerie mortall sinne And de Sermon Dom. tom 2. col 391. he saieth that Dauid and Peter euen when they sinned as they did were by regeneration the Sonnes of God and the grace of God remained in them Abbots in Diatribam Tomsoni c. 22. Dauid was not yet Dauid iust when he committed murder quite spoiled of spirituall life not yet depriued of iustification but worthie to be depriued Againe Guilt of sinne doth not take away iustification doth not extinguish the Holie Ghost doth not exclude the right of inheritance to the kingdome of God but onely the vse thereof The vniuersitie of Zurich apud Zanchium tom 7. col 74. Seing the strife of the spirit with the flesh is alwaies in Saints it followeth that the spirit doth alwaies remaine in them though sometimes they be ouercomen with the weight of the flesh Caluin in 2. Petri 2. v. 21. The faithfull also sinne but they Faithfull in grace euen when they sinne fall not from grace Beza in Colloq Montisbel p. 388. Whosoeuer is elect albeit Fall not from grace by sinne he sinne grieuously as is saied of Dauid yet he falleth not frō grace into which God once receaued him In Confess c. 4. sect 20. The Holie Ghost did testifie to their Dauid Peter spirit that they though they had most fouly fallen were not withstanstanding accounted in the number of the Sonnes of God And in Colloq cit When Smidelin had saied I aske whether Dauid Dauid adultering kept the holie Ghost committing adulterie lost the Holie Ghost or no Beza answered He lost him not but kept him Which p. 381. he expliteth by this exāple As druncknesse can for a time take away the vse of reason but yet not reason it selfe So sinne cā for a time take away from the elect the vse of the Holie Ghost and of grace but not grace and the Holie Ghost himselfe who abideth in them and departeth not from them as nether he departed from Dauid Et 2. part resp ad Acta Colloq Montisbel p. 71.
It is a vaine Nether veniall nor mortall sinnes exclude the holie Ghost distinction betwene veniall and mortall sinnes For nether the one nor the other cast of the Holie Ghost but interrupt his efficacie Zanchius de perseuerantia tom 7. col 359. saieth that it cannot be saied without blasphemie that Saints by sinning leaue to be the sonnes of God leese all right of euerlasting life Et col 150. The Holie Ghost departeth not but is contristated with our sinnes Pareus l. 3. de Iustif c. 14. denieth that ether Dauid by adulterie and murder or Salomon by idolatrie or S. Peter by denying Christ lost iustification And l. de Amiss Grat. c. 7. When the spirit ouercometh the flesh there ceaseth not to be flesh in Saints but it abideth tamed In like sorte when the flesh ouercometh the spirit as in Dauid when he fell the Spirit doth not cease to be in Saints but abideth ouercomen and troubled Et c. 11. Reconciliation grace loue adoption not euerie one nay neuer a sinne of the faithfull can dissolue THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that who sought iustification in the law were euacuated from Christ were fallen from grace who committeth sinne is of the Diuel and and that no murderer hath life in him The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that the faithfull by sinning do not fall from grace that Dauid in adulterie and murder S. Peter in deniall of Christ Salomon in idolatrie lost not iustification that the sinnes of the faithfull take not away the Holie Ghost but onely the vse thereof that the Holie Spirit is in the faithfull when they are ouercomen of the flesh that no sinne of theirs can dissolue grace that no enormious sinne extinguisheth grace Which some Protestants confesse to be against Scripture See lib. 2. cap. 30. ART VII WHETHER SINNE CAN stand with iustice SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. 2. Cor. 6. v. 14. What participatiō hath iustice with iniquitie Iustice and Iniquitie stand not together or what societie is there betwene light and darknesse and what agreement with Christ and Belial Wisdome 1. vers 4. Wisdome will not enter into a militious soule nor dwel in a bodie subiect to sinnes CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE C. Bellarm. l. 1. de Amiss Grat. cap. 12. Sinne fighteth with grace and cannot remaine together with iustice PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Abbots in Diatribam Tomsoni c. 25. Sinne dwelleth together Iustice dwelleth with sinne Faith with infidelitie with iustice in vs. Perkins in Galat. 5. True faith is alwaies mingled with contrarie incredulitie in so much as they who beleiue feele much incredulitie in themselues Luther in Gal. 3. to 5. f. 335. A Christian is together iust and a sinner a freind and enemie of God Et Assert art 31. tom 2. If therefore euerie one be also a sinner whilest he is iust what can A worke partely good partely nought Life death together follow more euidently then that a worke also is partely good partely euill Caluin cont Franciscan libertin p. 471. Behould how contraries may be together in one subiect For life is begun and much of death remaineth In Math. 17. vers 24. Seing faith is no where perfect it followeth that we are partely incredulous In Luc. 1. vers 6. The iustice which in them is praised dependeth of Gods free pardon and therefore he imputeth not that iniustice which remaineth in them Beza lib. Quaest vol. 1. pag. 672. In one and the selfe same Puritie and filth light and darknesse together subiect but in diuers respects are puritie and filth light and darknesse faith and incredulitie Pareus l. 4. de Iustif c. 17. I answere that there is no absurditie that faith hath sometimes dist ust or incredulitie mingled with it and so by accident that faith is sinne l. 1. c. 14. A sinner Faith is sinne by accident The same man iust and and wicked The same worke good and euill beleiuing is in the first moment of iustification iustified by grace and wicked by nature Et lib. 4. cap. 17. Workes are good and not good and worthie of reward and punishmēt but in diuers respects Good in so much as they are of God and done of the regenerate according to the law by faith and to the glorie of God Euill as much as they are defiled by the impure flesh and other sinnes Againe They are worthie of reward in the courte of mercie but worthie of punishment in the courte of Gods iustice THE CONFERENCE Scripture plainely saieth that there is no participation of iustice with iniquitie no societie of light and darknesse that the Holie Ghost dwelleth not in a bodie subiect to sinne The same say Catholiks Protestants plainely say that a man is at once iust and wicked freind and enemie of God that life and death puritie and filth light and darkenesse faith and incredulitie sinne and iustice can be in the same man together yea that the same act can be at once good and ill in the same act faith and incredulitie Which same Protestants confesse to be contrarie to Scripture See lib. 2. c. 30. ART VIII WHETHER SINNES MAY be redeemed by good workes SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Daniel 4. v. 24. Redeeme then thy sinnes with almes and Sinnes redeemed by almes thy iniquities with the mercies of the poore perhaps he will forgiue thine offences Prou. 15. v. 17. By mercie and faith sinnes are purged Et c. By mercie 6. v. 6. By mercie and trueth iniquitie is redeemed CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 2. de Paenit c. 3. Catholiks teach that the temporall paines of the other life may be redeemed by fastings praiers almes and other pious and painfull workes of this life PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Confessio Anglica art 12. Good workes cannot putt away Sinnes not redeemed by all mes our sinnes Confessio Wittemberg cap. de Eleemosyna What need had there beene of the passion and death of Christ if sinne could be blotted out by the merit of almes Hunnius de Iustif pag. 197. Should not Christ haue dyed in vaine for sinnes if they could be redeemed by almes Herbrandus in Compendio loco de bonis operibus If sinnes were redeemed with almes God should seeme iniust condemning the poore for sinnes because he had not giuen them riches as he did to others wherewith they might redeeme their sinnes Caluin 3. Instit c. 4. § 25. Papists say there are manie helps Nor by good workes or charitie whereby we may redeeme our sinnes as tears fasting offerings duties of charitie To such lies I oppose c. In Luc. 7. v. 50. By this speech is refuted their errour who thinke that sinnes can be redeemed by charitie Sadeel de ver peccat remiss p. 113. If expiation of sinnes be giuen to mens workes then is Christ dead in vaine Aretius in locis part 1. f. 90. Inward clensing cometh not of almes If it had beene possible to redeeme sinnes by almes Christ had died in
in Math. 6. v. 12. To remit sinne is nothing els but not to exact the punishment thereof Piscator in Thesibus l. 1. p. 428. The remission of sinne is nothing els but not to punish for sinne Kemnitius de Origine Iesuitarum c. de Peccato The remission of sinne is one thing the abolition is an other Or as Luther saied in the words cited It is one thing for sinne to be remitted an other to be taken away THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely teacheth that God taketh away sinne putteth out sinne as a cloud or mist that he maketh our iniquities as farre from vs as the East is from the West that he found no iniquitie in Dauid that there is no damnation in them who are in Christ Iesus The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely teach that manie sinnes innumerable sinnes great sinnes worthie of death great filthinesse worthie the wrathe of God remaine truely remaine are continually in those that are iustified that sinne liueth and preuaileth in the regenerate that sinne is not taken away no sinne quite taken away that it is not made to be no more that remission of sinne is nothing but forgiuenesse of the punishment Which are so contrarie to Scripture as sometimes Protestants confesse it See lib. 2. c. 30. ART VI. WHETHER SINNES BE simply forgiuen SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Ioan. 20. v. 23. Whose sinnes you shall forgiue they are forgiuen Sinnes simply forgiuen them CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm. l. 5. de Amiss Grat c. 7. Nether can it be graunted without impietie that the sentence of the Apostle that there is no damnation in the Iustified is not simply true PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Pareus l. 5. de Amiss Gratiae c. 7. It is most true that sinnes Not simply forgiuen are not simply remitted but with continuall praier of remission Et l. 4. de Iustif c. 17. he saieth that Christ doth not absolutely cleanse his people The same teacheth Illyricus in Apologia Confess Antuerpiensis c. 3. and all Protestants who say as we haue seene before that sinnes remaine in the iustified and that they are still guiltie of sinne and deserue damnation and that remission of sinnes is nothing but forgiuenesse of punishment For if onely punishment be forgiuen the iustified if the sinne stil remaine in them by which they are guiltie and deserue damnation manifest it is that sinne is not simply remitted to them THE CONFERENCE Scripture simply saieth that sinne is remitted The same say Catholiks Protestants simply say that sinne is not simply remitted ART VII WHETHER ALL THAT ARE iustified be equally iust or holie SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY DENIETH. Iob. 1. v. 8. Hast thou considered my seruant Iob that there None like to Iob. is not the like to him on the earth a man simple and right and fearing God and departing from euill Numbers 12 v. 3. Moises was the mildest man aboue all men Moises mildest of all mē that dwelle vpon the earth Math. 8. v. 10. I haue not found so great faith in Israel Greatest faith Greatest loue Ioan. 21. v. 15. Iesus saied to Simō Peter Simon of Ihon louest thou me more then these Apoc. 22. v. 11. He that is iust let him be iustified yet and let the holie be sanctified yet CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY DENIE C. Bellarm. l. 3. de Iustif c. 16. Lutherans teach that all iust men are equally iust so that none is iuster then an other nor the same increaseth in iustice PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Luther in Math. Math 7. to 7. fol. 96. A Christian is as good and Euerie Christian as holie is S. Peter holie as S. Peter and Paul nether is anie greater or better then he Postilla in Domin 24. S. Peter is not better then the theife on The B. Virgin excelleth not the sinner We are as holie as the Saints Better then they the crosse Marie the mother of God doth not excell Marie the sinner In festo Natiu Mariae We are as holie as Marie and the other Saints If they were now vpon earth they would not be ashamed to subiect themselues to me and to all and to honour vs as better then they Brentius homilia in die Visitationis Marie is not preferred before all weomen for her owne holinesse or other such like vertues Polanus in Disput priuatis periodo 1. disput 37. One is not None more iust then an other No lesse then Christ more iust then an other before God Pareus l. 2. de Iustif c. 7. By Christs iustice imputed to vs we are accounted no lesse iust then Christ himselfe at least keeping the proportion of the head and members THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that there was none on earth like to Iob that Moises was the mildest man vpon earth that there was not so great faith in Israel as in the Centurion that Peter loued Christ more then others that the iust may be yet iustified The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that euerie Christian is as good and holie as the Apostles that we are as holie as our B. Ladie and the Saints in heauen that we are better then they that we are are as iust as Christ himselfe that one is not more iust then an other ART VIII WHETHER THERE IS ANIE iustice or grace inherent in the iustified SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. Daniel 6. v. 22. My God hath sent his Angel and hath shut Iustice in Daniel vp the mouthes of the Lyons and they haue not hurt me because before him iustice hath beene found in me Luc. 1. v. 28. And the Angel being entred in saied vnto her B. Virgin full of grace Haile full of grace our Lord is with thee Act. 6. v. 8. And Steuen full of grace and fortitude Ephes 4. vers 24. Putte on the new man which according to God is created in iustice and holinesse of trueth 2. Tim. 1. v. 6. Resuscitate the grace of God which is in thee by Grace in Timothe the imposition of my hands CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME D. Stapleton in Rom. 4. v. 2. The Scriptures plainely teach inherent iustice in man PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE French Confession art 18. Casting away all opinion of vertues No opinion of vertue No iustice in vs. Not a crume of iustice or merits we rest altogether in the obedience alone of Christ Caluin in Rom. 8. v. 3. There can be no iustice in vs. In Gal. 3. v. 6. Seing men haue no iustice in them they get it by imputation De caena p. 2. There is none of vs who can finde anie crūme of iustice in himselfe There is no good in vs. Et in Confess fidei p. 158. We openly confesse that there is nothing in vs which if God looke vpon he may not iustly condemne Beza in Confess cap. 4. sect 8. Faith compelleth vs to confesse Nothing in vs but cause of damnatiō that there is nothing in vs besides causes and proofes of damnation Humfrey ad Ration 2. Campiani p. 142.
morall matters fallen If thou doest well shalt thou not receaue againe but if thou doest ill shall not thy sinne forthwith be present at thy dore But the lust thereof shal be vnder thee and thou shalt haue dominion ouer it Iosue 24. v. 15. Chuse this day that which pleaseth you whome We haue choice in morall matters you ought especially to serue ver 22. You are witnesses that your selues haue chosen to you our Lord for to serue him Eccles 15. ver 18. Before man there is life and death good and Some could sinne and did not euill what pleaseth him that shall be giuen him c. 31. v. 10. He that could transgresse and hath not transgressed and do euils and hath not done Philemon ver 14. But without thy counsaill I would do nothing Voluntarie and not of necessitie that thy good might not be as it were of necessitie but voluntarie The like is 1. Corint 7. vers 37. cited in the former article CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME C. Bellarm l. 5. de Grat. lib. arbit c. 14. Orthodoxall trueth teacheth that man in state of corrupted nature is indued with free will in morall matters PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Whitaker Contr. 2. q. 5. c. 7. p. 515. Luther and Caluin grant Mans will not free to good mans will to be free to sinne and ill doing but not to good p. 517. It is the Pelagian heresie That man after his fall hath anie libertie left to good The like hath Morton l. 1. Apologiae c. 30. Luther de seruo arbit to 2. fol. 460. If here could be anie change or freedome of will in Pharao to both partes God could not haue so certainely haue foretould his induration Which No free will to good could not be vnlesse induration were wholy beyond the power of man and onely in Gods power Resp ad Artic. Louan fo 504. There is no feee will to good Caluin 2. Instit c. 3. § 10. God moueth the will not as it hath Not in our power to obey or resist beene taught and beleiued these manie ages that afterward it is in our choice ether to obey or resist the motion but by working it effectually We must cast away that saying of Chrysostome whome he draweth he draweth willing Which he repeateth in Ioan. 6. vers 44. Pareus l. 5. de Grat. c. 29. p. 919. Who want iustice are not free to iustice but to iniustice nor to good but onely to ill Piscator in Thesibus pag. 423. A man in sinne hath no free will to good but onely to ill Thus teach they of mans will to good of the same towards ill this they say Caluin 2. Institut c. 3. § 5. I maruaile if any thinke it a harsh Man is of necessitie drawne to ill speach that I say mans will hauing lost libertie is by necessitie drawne or led to euill Et § A carnall man necessarily obeyeth euerie draught of Sathan The same he hath c. 5. § 1 Daneus Contr. 6. p. 1224. That sinnes are not the acts of Sinne is not the act of a free will free will is false They are the acts of our owne accord but not of free will Vallada in Apologia c. 20. Who can denie this necessitie of sinning in a man not regenerate The same teach others as hath beene shewed before c. 2. art 8. THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that the lust of sinne is vnder a man that as it pleaseth him good or euill shal be giuen to him that he hath choice whome he will serue that some thing is voluntarie to him and not necessarie that he could haue sinned and yet did not The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that there is no free will to good no freedome to both partes that it is not in our choice to obey or resist that by necessitie we are drawne to ill that sinne is not an act of free will but onely of our owne accord Which is so contrarie to Scripture as some Protestants confesse it See lib. 2. c. 30. ART III. WHETHER MANS WILL cooperate with Gods grace to good actes SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. 1. Cor. 3. v. 9. For we are Gods coadiutors c. 15. ver 10. I haue We are Gods coadiutors laboured more abundantly then all they yet not I the grace of God with me Math. 25. v. 20. Lord fiue talents thou didst deliuer me behould We gaine more with Gods grace I haue gained other fiue besides CATHOLIKS EXPRESSELY AFFIRME Councel of Trent Sess 6. Con. 4. If anie shall say that mans free will moued and stirred vp of God doth cooperate nothing by assenting to God mouing and calling be he accursed PROTESTANTS EXPRESSELY DENIE Luther in psalm 5. to 3. fol. 174. It is an error that free will Free will worketh not in good hath anie actiuitie in a good worke when we speake of an inward worke Zuinglius in Explanat art 20. The Papists make God the We are not Gods coadiutors first and chiefe cause of all goodnesse and vs cooperatours which is craftily to withdraw themselues from God Caluin 2. Institut cap. 3. § 12. The Apostle saieth not that Gods grace laboured with him to make himselfe fellow of the labour but rather giueth the whole praise of the labour to grace alone § 6. We see that not content to haue giuen simply the praise of our conuersion to God he excludeth vs expressely from all fellowshippe THE CONFERENCE Scripture expressely saieth that we are Gods coadiutors that Gods grace laboureth with vs that we gaine ouer that which was giuen vs. The same say Catholiks Protestants expressely say that we are not coadiutors of labour that we are not Gods coadiutors that we haue no fellowshippe of the labour THE SVMME OF THIS CHAPTER of Free will That which we haue rehearsed in this chapter plainely declareth that Protestants teach farre otherwise of free will then the holie Scripture doth For that Scripture and Catholiks with it teacheth that man hath free will in indifferent matters and in morall both good and badde and that he cooperateth with Gods grace to good All which Protestants denie It sheweth also that as Protestants haue stoallen from God from Christ from Saints from the Church and other things spoaken of before so also they steale from man that which is the most excellent thing in him to wit free will or dominion ouer his owne acts and make him a slaue and like to beasts CHAPTER XXI OF MANS SOVLE ART I. WHETHER MANS SOVLE BE immortall SCRIPTVRE EXPRESSELY AFFIRMETH. MATH 10. ver 28. Feare ye not them who kill the Soule of man cannot be killed bodie and are not able to kill to soule c. 22. ve 32. He is not the God of the dead but of the liuing Ioan. 11. ver 26. Euerie one that liueth and beleiueth Shall not die in me shall not die for euer Eccles 12. v. 7. And the spirit returneth to God who gaue it Returnet
If we proue that God doth now cleanse vs from all iniquitie because it is saied 1. Ioan. 1. v. 19. He is faithfull and iust to forgiue vs our sinnes and cleanse vs from all iniquitie Caluin ib. answereth If anie obiect that whilest we liue in this life we are neuer cleansed from all iniustice for so much as belongeth to reformation that is true indeed but Ihon teacheth not what God doth now perfect in vs. If we proue that in this life some are made iust by the merits of Christ as by Adams demerit they were made iniust by these words Rom. 5. v. 19. As by the disobedience of one man manie were made sinners so also by the obedience of one manie shal be made iust Pareus l. 2. de Iustificat cap. 3. answereth In this life we are made iust imperfectly in the next we shal be made perfectly iust Hereupon perchaunce Luther saied Disput 3. tom 1. We thinke that a man to be iustified is not to be yet iust but to be in the way and course to iustice If we proue that faith without workes is alwaies dead because it is saied Iames 2. vers vlt. Faith without workes is dead Schlusselburg to 8. Catal. p. 526. answereth The saying of Iames touching faith dead without workes is to be vnderstood of ehe time after iustification So that he will not haue faith to be dead without good workes whilest it iustifieth If we proue that God alwaies will all men to be saued by those words 1. Tim. 2. Who will all men to be saued Perkins in Cases of Conscience cap. 7. sect 3. answereth God will all men to be saued vnderstand now in this last age of the world If we proue that Saintes in heauen aske mercie for the faithfull because they aske reuenge vpon their persecutors by those words Apocal. 6. vers 9 I saw vnder the aultar the soules of them that were slanie for the word of God c. and they cried with a loud voice saying How long Lord holie and true iudgâ—st thou not and reuengest not our blood on them that dwell on the earth Confessio Wittember c. de Inuocat Sanctorum vnderstandeth this onely of praiers made whiles the Saints were on earth In the Apocalypse the soules of the Saints that were slaine do crie that their blood be reuenged not that now resting in the Lord they are desirous of reuenge after a humane manner but because the Lord euen after their death is myndfull of the praiers which whiles they yet liued on earth the made for the deliuerie of themselues and the Church If we proue that in this life we fulfill the law doe the will of God and obey Christ by those words Rom. 8. v. 4 God sent his Sonne c. that the iustification of the law might be fullfilled in vs. Et Math. 6. Thy will be done on earth And Hebr. 5. vers 9. Christ is made the cause of saluation to all that obey him Scharpius de Iustif Contr. 12. answereth Out of these places nothing followeth but that the faithfull fulfill the law but it followeth not that they fulfill it in this life Wherefore I thus make my fourtenth argument Who besides the foresaied opposition to the expresse words of Scripture will not expound the words of Scripture on that time whereof it speaketh do contradict the true sense thereof Protestants doe so Therefore c. CHAPTER XV. THAT PROTESTANTS OF MANIE sayings of Scripture make one MY fiftenth argument shal be because Protestants are forced to confound manie sayings of Scripture in one and so make one of manie For if we proue that God will not the death of a sinner but willeth his conuersion by those words Ezechiel 18. I will not the death of a sinner but that he be conuerted and liue Caluin l. de Praedest pag. 706. answereth If as we ought to doe those twoe be read ioyntly I will that a sinner which is conuerted liue the cauill is easily refuted The some hath Beza 2 part resp ad Acta Montisbel p. 196. If we proue that God would haue al to be saued and come to the knowledge of the trueth because it is so saied 1. Tim. 2. v. 4. Beza lib. quaest respons vol. 1. Theol. p. 684. saieth Those twoe To saue and to come to the knowledge of trueth are to be ioyned that so God may be vnderstood to will that they be saued whome he will haue to come to the knowledge of the trueth So also he answereth in Respons ad Acta Montisb p. 194. And there p. 196. in the same sorte expoundeth that Ezech. 18. I will not the death of a sinner but that be conuerted If we proue that Christs baptisme was different from S. Ihons because Actor 19. S. Luke telleth that some who haue beene baptized with S. Ihons baptisme were baptized againe of S. Paul Beza ib. ver 5. saieth that these are not the words of S. Luke telling who were baptized of S. Paul but of S. Paul telling what was the baptisme of Saint Ihon. Caluin l cont Anabap. p. 415. saieth There is saied that Paul baptized them in the name of Christ then to explicate what this meaneth is added that he laied hands vpon them and the holie Ghost descended Wherefore the same thing is diuersely expressed by twoe wayes as the Scripture vseth Et 4. Inst c. 15. § 18. Luke doth not tell twoe different things but keepeth the forme of relating vsed of the Hebrews who first set downe the summe of the matter and after explane it more at large If we proue that we must be borne againe both of water and of the holie Ghost by these words Ioan. 3. v. 5. Vnlesse one be borne againe of water and the holie Ghost c. Caluin ib. answereth It is one simple sentence that we must be borne a new for to be Gods children and that of this second birth the holie Ghost is author Therefore he put water and Spirit for the same thing And in this manner they confound manie things which the Scripture distinguisheth and say that ether they be Synonimies or that one exegetically expoundeth the other Wherefore this is my 15. argument Who besides the foresaied opposition to the expresse words of Scripture are compelled to confound manie different sayings of the Scripture in one those are also opposite to the true meaning of the holie Scripture Protestants doe so Therefore c. And hitherto we haue seene how manie and what kind of Propositions of Scripture almost in all kinds of controuersies Protestants doe change and depraue and that no kind of speach can be so plaine strong and forcible as it can recall them from their errours but that they break through delude depraue all Now let vs see how they deale will the wordes of Scripture For as Tertullian saieth cont Hermogenen It is the Heretiks custome to wreste all simple words CHAPTER XVI THAT WORDS OF SCRIPTVRE WHICH signifie the working or doing of a thing
indeed shew thy selfe such as thou boastest to be Pareus Contr. 5. col 1009. Hauing damnation c. 1. Tim. 5. v. 11. Bucers and Martyrs opinion is true when they take the word Damnation in this place of Paul for damnation which is pronounced of men against those yoÌ„g widows who marrie againe And Marâ—yr l. de votis col 1355. Those words of the Apostle Damnation 1. in mens iudgement may be vnderstood of mens iudgement The same Daneus Contr. 6. col 1187. When Concupiscence hath coceaued c. Iac. 1. ver 15. Iames speaketh of that effect of sinne which appeareth to vs men Et p. 1205. Bellarmin answereth out of Dan. 4. v. 4. and Philip. 2. v. 12. that we can redeeme our sinnes But Bellarmin is deceaued for those places of Scripture onely teach what we can and ought to doe in regard of men not in regard of God Et Contr. 2. c. 16. Verbes actiue which are spoaken by the Scripture Causeth 1. Testifieth of the Sacraments doe not signifie cause or action causing and effecting but onely action testifying Pareus de Iustif c. 15. 1. Ioan. 3. c. 7. Who worketh iustice is iust That is he sheweth by workes that he is iustified by faith Et l. 3. c. 14. Ioan. 15. Euerie branche in me he expoundeth of those who adhere to Christ in onely outward profession and shew And that Math. 24. The charitie of manie shall wax could of those who in outward appearence are iust And that 1. Tim. 1. Some haue made shipwrack of faith of onely apparent faith Et l. 4. c. 18. saieth With Iames to Iustifie is to shew by workes before men the iustice of faith Zanchius in Summa Praelect to 7. col 276. The place 2. Pet. 1. Forgetting the purgation c. is to be vnderstood according to the custome of holie Scripture which according to the iudgement of charitie calleth all Saints Iust and Cleansed from sinne whosoeuer are baptized in Christ and professe Christ though all be not such before God Et ib. That Ezech. 18. If a iust man turne himselfe from iustice Is not meant of one that is truely iust but who to men onely seemeth iust Et de Perseuer c. 2. Manie beleiued in him Ioan. 12. Because to themselues they seemed truely to beleiue in Christ whereas notwithstandind they doe not truely beleiue Perkins in Cathol Reform Contr. 4. c. 4. vpon that Ps 105. It was reputed to him to iustice writeth thus Surely not Iustice 1. a Signe thereof because that fact was a full satisfaction of the law but because God aiâ— accept that iust worke as a note and signe of iustice and of that zele which he had for the glorie of God Et in Psal Happie Happie 1. a signe thereof is the man who walketh in the law He saieth He is happie that he is in Christ of which thing the obedieÌ„ce giuen to the law is a signe Et ib. We say that workes concurre to iustification and that we are iustified by them as by certaine signes and effects not as by causes And tom 2. in Galat. 5. They are saied to fall Fallen 1. shew they neuer stood from grace not that indeed all had beene vnder grace and after had fallen from it but because God made it manifest to men that indeed they had neuer beene vnder his fauour And Apocalips 2. When Dauid praied God to create a new heart in him Perkins saieth He speaketh not as he was before God and by faith but according to his feeling for his faith did not put forth it selfe before men and himselfe Polanus in Disp priuat p. 24. that Ezech. 18. He shall quickeÌ„ Quicken 1. testifie his owne soule expoundeth thus He by his workes shall testifie that he is truely regenerate Et pag. 108. Faith is perfected by workes that is perfectly knowne Bucanus Inst loc 18. Zacharias in these words Be conuerted to me speaketh of outward conuersion Et loco 30. Charitie couereth a multitude of sinnes not before God but before men Vrsinus in Catechis p. 40. That saying of Peter Denying the Lord who bought them Agayne He forgot that he was Cleansed 1. in outward Signifie cleansed from his ould sinnes and such like are manifestly spoakeÌ„ ether onely of outward shew and gloriation of redemption or purgation or c. Et q. 63. Who doeth iustice is iust to wit before men And in like sorte Piscator in Thes l. 2. p. 94. expoundeth that place Rom. 6. Who is dead is iustified from sinne Aretius in locis part 1. f. 9. saieth to that Tobie 4. 12. Deliuer 1. Sgnifie Almes deliuer from death They deliuer from eternall death that is are signes and firme arguments in the godlie that they are deliuered from that death Et Confessio Wittemberg c. de Eleemosyna We teach that almes doth so blot out sinne that it is the fruite of charitie towards our neighbour by which worke we testifie the faith and obedience which we owe to God P. Martyr in Rom. 9. Nether is proued out of this place If anie shall cleanse himselfe that men can cleanse themselues or make themselues honorable vessells Wherefore we must not gather more out of those words of Paul theÌ„ that such a cleansing is a signe whereby we iudge of the worthe or vnworthinesse of vessells in the Church Tilenus in Syntagmate c. 41. giueth this rule of deluding A generall of deluding words of Scripture all places of Scripture which teach that charitie hope feare or pennance doe iustifie to wit that ether by these names is vnderstood faith or that they onely declare iustification Scharpius de Iust Contr. 5. denieth that speach Luc. 8. They beleiue for a time or that 1. Tim. 1. They haue made shipwrack Faith 1. in shew of faith cap. 5. 6. they shall depart from faith They haue fallen from faith to be meant of true faith Nether will he haue that Ezech. 18. When a iust man shall turne himselfe Iust 1. in shew from iustice to be meant of one truely iust nor that Math. 18. When the vncleane spirit shall goe forth of a man to be meant of the Diuel truely gone forth Nor that Math 24. Charitie of manie shall wax could Of true charitie Nor that Galat. 5. Yee are fallen from grace of true grace Nor that Hebr. 6. Were illuminated or Hebr. 10. In which he was sanctified of truely illuminated or sanctified Nor that 2. Pet. 1. Forgetting the purgation c. and c. 2. A sowe washed c. of true purgation or true washing Nor finally that Actor 10. Simon beleiued of true faith And in like sorte Contr. 6. he denieth that Ioan. 12. Manie of the Princes beleiued and that 1. Cor. 13. If I haue all faith to be meant of true faith and Contr. 7. that Iacob 2. Not by faith onely of true faith And Contr. 12. When anie are saied to be perfect or iust as Gen. 6. 1.
to giue his life for vs 120 15 VVhether he merited any thing for himselfe 121 16 VVhether he sufficiently redeemed vs 123 17. VVhether he redeemed vs with his blood 125 18. VVhether he died for reprobates 127 19. VVhether he died for all 129 20. VVhether his blood be corrupted 131 21. VVhether his soule descēded to hell 132 22. VVhether he suffered the paines of hell 134 23. VVhether he entred to his disciples the doores being shut 136 24. VVhether he penetrated the heauēs 138 25. VVhether he praieth for vs in heauen 139 Chap. 4. Of Angels and Saints Art 1. VVhether Angels and Saints doe the will of God 144 2. VVhether Saints enioye their felicitie 145 3. VVhether the glorie of Saints be equall 147 4. VVhether Angels and Saints pray for vs. 148 5. VVhether Saints haue care of vs 150 6. VVhether they heare our praiers 152. 7. VVhether Angels offer our praiers to God 153 8. VVhether they be to be praied vnto 155 9. VVhether God be to be praied vnto by the names of Saints 156 10. VVhether God haue mercie on vs for Saints sake 158 11. VVhether Angels or Saints be to be bowed vnto 159 12. VVhether Saints be to be imitated of vs 161 13. VVhether holie men receaue vs into heauenlie tabernacles 162 14. VVhether anie Saint may be termed our hope 163 15. VVhether anie had power to worke Miracles 164 16. VVhether Saints do reigne with Christ 166 17. VVhether anie was full of grace 167 Chap. 5. Of the Scripture or worde of God Art 1. VVhether anie place of Scripture be hard to vnderstand 170 2. VVhether Scripture can be vnderstood without the holie Ghost 172 3. VVhether the Ghospel containe any law 174 4. VVhether the Ghospell preach pennance 167 5. VVhether the Ghospell reproue sinne 178 6. VVhether the Ghopell promise saluation without conditiō of works 180 7. VVhether the Gospell be contrarie to the law 182 8. VVhether the law of Moyses commanded faith in Christ 184. 9. VVhether anie vnwritten traditions be to be kept 186 Chap. 6. Of S. Peter and the Apostles Art 1. VVhether S. Peter were first of the Apostles 189. 2. VVhether the Church was built on S. Peter 190. 3. VVhether the keyes were giuen to him 192. 4. VVhether his faith failed 193. 5. VVhether the Apostles were foundations of the Church 195. 6. VVhether the Apostles were simply to be heard 196. 7. VVhether they were sufficient witnesses of the trueth 198 8. VVhether they learned anie point after Christs ascension 200. 9. VVhether Iudas was truely a disciple 201. 10. VVhether Iudas was a Bishop 202. Chap. 7. Of Pastors of the Church Art 1. Whether Pastors alwaies continew 204. 2. VVhether authoritie be in the Pastors 206. 3. VVhether one Pastor can excommunicate 208. 4. VVhether Pastors can make lawes 209. 5. VVhether Bishops be rulers of the Church 210 6. VVhether they rule the Church 211. 7. VVhether Pastors be to be called Priests 213. 8. VVhether a Pastor can be without calling 214. 9 Whether a Pastor may haue temporall iurisdiction 216. 10 VVhether Moyses were a Preist 218. Chap. 8. Of the Church Art 1. VVhether the Church be one 220. 2. VVhether ill men be of the Church 223. 3 Whether reprobats be of the Church 225. 4 VVhether the Church euer continew 226. 5. VVhether it be alwaies visible 228. 6. VVhether it be infallible 230. 7. VVhether it be simply to be heard 231. 8. VVhether trueth relieth on the Church 232. Chap. 9. Of Temples or materiall Churches Art 1. VVhether Churches be for priuat Praiers 235. 2. VVhether Churches be to be adorned 237. 3. VVhether Images may be set in Churches 4. VVhether Heatens thought their idols to be Gods 240 Chap. 10. Of Baptisme Art 1. Whether water be necessarie to baptisme p. 242. 2. Whether inuocation of the Trinitie be necessarie to baptisme p. 243. 3. Whether baptisme be necessarie as by precept p. 245. 4. VVhether it be necessarie as a meane p. 246. 5. VVhether Simon Magus and such were baptized p. 248. 6. VVhether baptisme be effectuall in reprobats p. 150. 7. VVhether baptisme clenseth sinne p. 252. 8. VVhether it pardonneth sinnes to come p. 256. 9. VVhether before baptisme children be in state of damnation p. 258. 10. VVhether the baptisme of S. Ihon and of Christ were different p. 261. 11. VVhether certaine Ephesians had receaued S. Ihons baptisme p. 262. 12. VVhether they had heard of the holie Ghost p. 264. Chap. 11. Of the Eucharist Art 1. VVhether the Eucharist be the bodie and blood of Christ p. 266. 2. VVhether Christs flesh be to be eaten and his blood to be drunk p. 280. 3. VVhether Christ gaue the blood of the new testament to be drunk p. 283. 4. VVhether the Eucharisticall Chalice be Christs testament p. 284. 5. Vhether at the time of his Supper his blood was shed p. 286. 6. VVhether the Eucharisticall Chalice was shed for vs p. 288. 7. VVhether bread be necessarie to the Eucharist p. 289. 8. VVhether the Eucharist be to be made of azime bread p. 290. 9. VVhether bread and wine whereof the Eucharist is made be to be blessed p. 292. 10. VVhether there ought to be anie preparation to the Eucharist p. 293. 11. VVhether there be anie Sacrifice in the Church p. 295. 12. VVhether is there anie altar in the Church p. 296. 13. VVhether the Paschal lambe was sacrificed p. 297. Chap. 12. Of the other Sacraments Art 1. VVhether Preists can forgiue sinnes p. 300. 2. VVhether we must cōfesse our sinnes p. 302. 3. VVhether grace be giuen by imposition of hands p. 305. 4. VVhether hands be to be imposed vpon those that are baptized p. 305. 5. VVhether Matrimonie be a Sacrament p. 306. 6. VVhether one may marrie after diuorce p. 307. 7. VVhether the sick are to be anoiled p. 310. 8. VVhether the new Sacraments excell the ould p. 311. Chap. 13. Of faith Art 1. VVhether faith be a worke 314. 2. VVhether faith beleiue onely God his promises 315. 3. VVhether to beleiue that Christ is God be iustifying faith 317. 4. VVhether faith be one 319. 5. VVhether all articles of faith may be beleiued without the holie Ghost 321. 6. VVhether faith differ from hope and charitie 322. 7. VVhether faith be greater then charitie 324. 8. VVhether faith be without charitie 325. 9. VVhether it be without confession 328. 10. VVhether without good works it be dead 329. 11. VVhether faith whereof S. Iames speaketh be iustifying faith 331. 12. VVhether anie faith be perfect 333. 13. VVhether faith be perfected by good works 331. 14. VVhether by faith we onely know that we are iustified 336. 15. VVhether faith be necessarie to iustification or saluation 338. 16. VVhether faith be anie cause of iustificatien 340. 17. VVhether faith alone cā iustifie 342. 18. VVhether faith iustifie as it is beleife 344. 19. VVhether faith it selfe be imputed to iustice 346 20. VVhether faith be proper to the iust 348 21 VVhether it be