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A71250 A second defence of the exposition of the doctrine of the Church of England against the new exceptions of Monsieur de Meaux, Late Bishop of Condom, and his vindicator, the first part, in which the account that has been given of the Bishop of Meaux's Exposition, is fully vindicated ... Wake, William, 1657-1737. 1687 (1687) Wing W260; ESTC R4642 179,775 220

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have_v no_o be_v in_o the_o church_n for_o the_o first_o 300_o year_n n._n 57_o the_o vindicator_n proof_n particular_o examine_v and_o show_v to_o be_v either_o false_a or_o ridiculous_a n._n 59_o that_o the_o father_n of_o the_o first_o three_o century_n pray_v to_o god_n only_a n._n 66._o my_o presumption_n heretofore_o allege_v for_o this_o viz._n that_o those_o father_n do_v not_o believe_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o just_o go_v immediate_o to_o heaven_n justify_v and_o the_o vindcator_n answer_n show_v to_o be_v insufficient_a n._n 73._o sixtus_n senensis_n in_o vain_a misrepresent_v by_o him._n n._n 76._o that_o this_o practice_n do_v not_o pass_v quiet_o in_o the_o follow_a age_n n._n 82._o his_o pretence_n that_o the_o four_o general_n council_n pray_v to_o flavian_n both_o false_a and_o impertinent_a n._n 80._o his_o little_a exception_n of_o the_o few_o write_n that_o remain_v of_o the_o primitive_a father_n neither_o true_a nor_o to_o the_o purpose_n n._n 78_o 85._o how_o this_o practice_n by_o degree_n creep_v into_o the_o church_n n._n 89._o iid_n period_n what_o ground_n this_o superstition_n have_v in_o the_o four_o century_n that_o most_o of_o the_o address_n of_o this_o age_n be_v rather_o rhetorical_a flight_n than_o formal_a invocation_n n._n 92._o eight_o difference_n propose_v between_o what_o the_o father_n of_o the_o four_o age_n do_v and_o what_o those_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v now_o as_o to_o this_o matter_n n._n 96._o that_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n be_v never_o solemn_o establish_v in_o the_o church_n before_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o 8_o century_n n._n 97._o etc._n etc._n sect_n iu._n what_o our_o reason_n be_v against_o this_o service_n the_o true_a state_n of_o the_o difference_n betwixt_o we_o as_o to_o this_o matter_n n._n 105._o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v exact_v a_o compliance_n in_o this_o practice_n &_o anathematise_v those_o who_o oppose_v it_o n._n 106._o that_o this_o be_v one_a repugnant_a to_o god_n holy_a word_n n._n 111._o two_o contrary_a to_o antiquity_n n._n 119._o three_o unreasonable_a in_o the_o constitution_n n._n 126._o because_o they_o be_v neither_o certain_a that_o the_o saint_n hear_v their_o prayer_n n._n 127._o nor_o that_o those_o who_o they_o pray_v to_o be_v indeed_o saint_n n._n 128._o and_o pray_v to_o many_o as_o such_o that_o never_o live_v in_o the_o world._n n._n 130._o such_o be_v s._n george_n n._n 130._o s._n lazarus_n s._n longinus_n s._n christopher_n s._n ursula_n etc._n etc._n a_o brief_a account_n of_o who_o act_n be_v offer_v and_o their_o falseness_n observe_v a_o pleasant_a relation_n of_o a_o bishop_n and_o martyr_n make_v out_o of_o two_o word_n of_o a_o ancient_a inscription_n and_o the_o great_a miracle_n that_o be_v wrought_v at_o his_o monument_n n._n 134._o that_o the_o wise_a papist_n complain_v of_o this_o extravagance_n 4thly_a that_o it_o be_v unprofitable_a and_o impious_a in_o the_o practice_n n._n 139._o that_o it_o be_v unprofitable_a n._n 139._o that_o it_o be_v impious_a n._n 143._o several_a remarkable_a instance_n of_o impiety_n in_o this_o practice_n n._n 147_o etc._n etc._n the_o whole_a conlude_v with_o a_o account_n of_o the_o procession_n of_o the_o jesuit_n of_o luxembourg_n may_v 20._o 1685._o n._n 157_o etc._n etc._n the_o answer_n to_o the_o four_o article_n of_o image_n and_o relic_n the_o sum_n of_o this_o chapter_n reduce_v to_o three_o general_a consideration_n sect_n i._o of_o the_o benefit_n of_o picture_n and_o image_n n._n 4._o concern_v which_o it_o be_v observe_v one_a that_o the_o vindicator_n ought_v not_o at_o this_o time_n to_o confound_v picture_n and_o image_n together_o n._n 6._o two_o nor_o single_a figure_n and_o historical_a representation_n ibid._n ibid._n 2._o three_o that_o it_o be_v impertinent_a to_o this_o point_n to_o discourse_v of_o the_o benefit_n where_o the_o dispute_n be_v concern_v the_o worship_n of_o image_n ibid._n ibid._n 3._o for_o that_o 4thly_fw-mi no_o benefit_n be_v it_o ever_o so_o great_a will_v be_v able_a to_o excuse_v this_o ibid._n ibid._n 4._o 5th_o that_o image_n be_v not_o useful_a to_o the_o ignorant_a as_o be_v pretend_v ibid._n ibid._n 5._o six_o but_o on_o the_o contrary_a very_o pernicious_a and_o injurious_a ibid._n ibid._n 9_o a_o account_n of_o horrible_a abuse_n in_o many_o of_o their_o image_n and_o picture_n viz._n of_o god_n the_o father_z n._n 7_o 8._o of_o the_o holy_a trinity_n n._n 9_o of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n n._n 10._o and_o of_o the_o b._n virgin_n ibid._n etc._n etc._n the_o pretence_n that_o there_o be_v now_o no_o danger_n of_o idolatry_n in_o all_o this_o propose_v and_o the_o way_n open_v to_o the_o refute_v of_o it_o n._n 15_o 16._o sect_n ii_o the_o charge_n of_o image-worship_n make_v good_a and_o the_o evasion_n answer_v by_o which_o the_o vindicator_n endeavour_v to_o excuse_v his_o church_n from_o the_o gild_n of_o it_o n._n 17._o this_o be_v do_v in_o three_o particular_n be_v it_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o ch._n of_o rome_n propose_v in_o her_o definition_n as_o to_o this_o matter_n n._n 18_o 19_o iid_o this_o voice_n interpret_v by_o card._n capisucchi_n who_o approve_v mounseur_fw-fr de_fw-fr meavx_n exposition_n and_o to_o who_o book_n mr._n de_fw-fr meaux_n himself_o appeal_v n._n 20._o after_o reject_v several_a opinion_n which_o in_o the_o cardinal_n judgement_n do_v not_o allow_v sufficient_a honour_n to_o image_n n._n 21_o etc._n etc._n he_o conclude_v it_o to_o be_v the_o church_n sense_n that_o the_o same_o worship_n be_v to_o be_v give_v to_o the_o image_n as_o be_v give_v to_o the_o thing_n represent_v by_o they_o n._n 26._o that_o aquinas_n allow_v supreme_a divine_a worship_n to_o the_o cross_n contrary_a to_o the_o vindicator_n pretence_n n._n 27._o some_o reflection_n upon_o what_o this_o cardinal_n have_v say_v with_o reference_n to_o the_o point_n before_o we_o n._n 28_o etc._n etc._n a_o account_n of_o one_o of_o the_o roman_a church_n late_o put_v into_o the_o inqvisition_n for_o deny_v the_o worship_n of_o image_n recommend_v to_o the_o vindicator_n consideration_n n._n 32_o 33._o iiid_o this_o far_o show_v to_o be_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n from_o those_o authorize_v practice_n i_o allege_v in_o my_o defence_n 1._o the_o instance_n from_o the_o order_n of_o receive_v a_o emperor_n justify_v n._n 35._o two_o the_o argument_n from_o the_o office_n of_o consecrate_v a_o new_a cross_n make_v good_a and_o the_o vindicator_n evasion_n show_v to_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o the_o design_n of_o it_o n._n 36._o of_o their_o agnus_n dei_n and_o the_o superstition_n that_o be_v commit_v in_o the_o design_n and_o consecration_n of_o they_o n._n 44_o 45._o of_o holy_a water_n and_o the_o superstition_n commit_v in_o the_o design_n and_o use_v of_o it_o n._n 47._o of_o incense_n n._n 51._o that_o the_o primitive_a church_n use_v incense_n n._n 51._o but_o that_o this_o be_v no_o plea_n for_o what_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v now_o the_o consecrate_v and_o burn_v of_o incense_n in_o that_o church_n superstitious_a n._n 52._o idolatrous_a n._n 54._o three_o the_o instance_n of_o the_o good-friday_n service_n far_o vindicate_v and_o the_o exception_n make_v against_o it_o show_v to_o be_v frivolous_a n._n 56._o that_o those_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v suppose_v this_o to_o be_v a_o good_a proof_n of_o their_o pay_v divine_a worship_n to_o the_o cross_n n._n 60._o two_o extravagant_a proof_n to_o excuse_v this_o worship_n from_o be_v idolatrous_a propose_v and_o answer_v n._n 61_o 62_o 63_o etc._n etc._n four_o the_o argument_n take_v from_o the_o hymn_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n justify_v n._n 65._o and_o the_o vindicator_n interpretation_n of_o they_o show_v to_o be_v absurd_a n._n 69._o sect_n iii_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n thus_o worship_v of_o image_n be_v true_o and_o proper_o guilty_a of_o idolatry_n this_o make_v good_a in_o two_o point_n n._n 76._o i._o point_n of_o the_o true_a nature_n of_o idolatry_n the_o late_a notion_n of_o idolatry_n propose_v and_o that_o in_o this_o sense_n we_o do_v not_o charge_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n with_o it_o n._n 77._o what_o idolatry_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n be_v show_v in_o two_o particular_n be_v it_o q._n whether_o according_a to_o the_o scripture-notion_n of_o idolatry_n those_o may_v not_o be_v guilty_a of_o it_o who_o yet_o both_o know_v and_o worship_v the_o one_o true_a god_n n._n 78._o that_o they_o may_v make_v manifest_a from_o the_o instance_n one_a of_o the_o golden_a calf_n n._n 80._o two_o of_o the_o calf_n of_o dan_n and_o bethel_n n._n 86._o other_o argument_n to_o make_v good_a the_o affirmative_a of_o this_o question_n n._n 93._o that_o this_o be_v the_o notion_n of_o the_o primitive_a father_n n._n 94._o and_o be_v
tell_v he_o how_o in_o the_o prosecution_n of_o his_o argument_n he_o shall_v be_v force_v to_o lay_v open_a his_o frequent_a contradiction_n calumny_n and_o misrepresentation_n by_o which_o the_o reader_n may_v now_o see_v that_o you_o mean_v i_o no_o harm_n in_o all_o these_o hard_a word_n against_o i_o but_o you_o find_v they_o in_o your_o author_n and_o you_o transcribe_v the_o rail_n with_o as_o little_a judgement_n as_o you_o have_v do_v the_o reason_n of_o his_o book_n after_o this_o short_a and_o civil_a preface_n you_o tell_v i_o 3._o ad_fw-la pag._n 2._o reply_n 2._o reply_v p._n 2._o that_o there_o be_v a_o time_n in_o which_o the_o 15._o the_o t._n g_o his_o first_o answ_n pref._n pag._n 15._o genuine_a son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n excuse_v the_o roman_n catholic_n church_n of_o that_o odious_a imputation_n of_o idolatry_n and_o 15._o and_o t._n g_o his_o first_o answ_n pref_o pag._n 15._o some_o of_o they_o never_o 15._o never_o t._n g_o be_v second_v answ_n p._n 15._o excommunicate_v nor_o censure_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n for_o it_o maintain_v that_o we_o can_v defend_v the_o charge_n of_o idolatry_n against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n without_o deny_v that_o church_n to_o be_v a_o true_a church_n and_o by_o consequence_n without_o contradict_v ourselves_o and_o go_v against_o the_o intention_n of_o the_o reformation_n which_o be_v not_o to_o make_v a_o new_a church_n but_o to_o restore_v a_o sick_a church_n to_o its_o soundness_n a_o corrupt_a church_n to_o its_o purity_n etc._n etc._n see_v t._n g._n first_o answer_v pref._n p._n 7._o answ_n have_v you_o but_o ingenuous_o own_a from_o whence_o you_o have_v take_v this_o objection_n against_o our_o church_n the_o reader_n will_v present_o have_v know_v whither_o to_o have_v go_v for_o the_o confutation_n of_o it_o but_o see_v you_o be_v resolve_v to_o make_v it_o your_o own_o i_o shall_v answer_v two_o thing_n one_a that_o what_o you_o have_v say_v be_v false_a two_o that_o 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o_o you_o holy_a apostle_n to_o who_o command_n as_o far_o as_o prayer_n may_v be_v so_o call_v the_o health_n and_o sickness_n of_o all_o be_v subject_v forasmuch_o as_o your_o request_n can_v prevail_v with_o god_n to_o submit_v it_o to_o you_o heal_n we_o i_o e._n pray_v to_o god_n that_o he_o will_v heal_n we_o who_o be_v sick_a in_o our_o manner_n and_o restore_v we_o that_o be_v to_o say_v entreat_v god_n that_o he_o will_v restore_v we_o to_o virtue_n 37._o such_o according_a to_o your_o principle_n be_v the_o paraphrase_n of_o this_o prayer_n if_o this_o be_v a_o natural_a way_n of_o expound_v then_o be_v also_o your_o pretence_n allow_v of_o but_o if_o to_o pray_v in_o such_o word_n as_o these_o mean_v no_o more_o than_o what_o i_o have_v express_v be_v a_o downright_a mock_v both_o of_o god_n and_o his_o saint_n then_o let_v the_o world_n judge_v what_o we_o be_v to_o think_v of_o your_o interpretation_n 38._o but_o however_o for_o once_o let_v we_o allow_v even_o this_o 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23._o contemplate_v pag._n 23._o verse_n open_v my_o lip_n o_o mother_n of_o jesus_n resp_n and_o my_o soul_n shall_v speak_v forth_o thy_o praise_n verse_n divine_a lady_n be_v intent_n to_o my_o aid_n resp_n gracious_o make_v haste_n to_o help_v i_o verse_n glory_n be_v to_o jesus_n and_o mary_n resp_n as_o it_o be_v be_v and_o ever_o shall_v be_v so_o dr._n j._n c._n now_o what_o you_o will_v think_v of_o all_o this_o i_o can_v tell_v below_o see_v below_o but_o sure_o i_o be_o s._n athanasius_n pronounce_v it_o to_o be_v downright_a idolatry_n and_o what_o no_o good_a christian_n will_v ever_o be_v guilty_a of_o iii_o when_o in_o your_o commendation_n of_o a_o depart_a soul_n you_o bid_v he_o anim._n rit_fw-fr rom._n ord._n comm._n anim._n depart_v out_o of_o the_o world_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n of_o angel_n and_o archangel_n of_o patriarch_n prophet_n apostle_n and_o of_o all_o saint_n as_o i_o have_v before_o at_o large_a recite_v it_o 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