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this_o place_n cut_v off_o the_o sinew_n and_o foundation_n of_o saint_n and_o angel_n invocation_n he_o show_v how_o some_o jewish_a christian_n in_o phrygia_n and_o pisidia_n be_v zealous_a of_o the_o law_n do_v worship_n angel_n by_o who_o the_o law_n be_v give_v and_o build_v temple_n to_o s_o t_o michael_n and_o other_o and_o that_o this_o course_n continue_v long_o among_o they_o etc._n they_o bin._n council_n lacd_a tom._n 1._o can_v 35._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n and_o therefore_o that_o in_o the_o 4_o the_o century_n a_o council_n of_o bishop_n in_o laodicea_n the_o metropolis_n of_o phrygia_n near_o neighbour_n to_o colosse_n do_v express_o forbid_v the_o worship_n of_o angel_n call_v it_o idolatry_n that_o christian_n ought_v not_o to_o leave_v the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o depart_v and_o call_v upon_o the_o angel_n and_o make_v assembly_n and_o if_o any_o be_v find_v to_o be_v conversant_a in_o this_o hide_a idolatry_n let_v he_o be_v accurse_v now_o 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refer_v to_o other_o pâ—â—ces_n of_o this_o father_n but_o according_a to_o his_o accoustumed_a manner_n without_o truth_n and_o reason_n it_o be_v strange_a therefore_o if_o he_o be_v of_o the_o opinion_n &_o the_o practice_n in_o his_o day_n be_v usual_a to_o pray_v to_o the_o saint_n before_o their_o shrine_n that_o any_o where_o else_o he_o shall_v not_o speak_v of_o it_o and_o therefore_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o that_o the_o original_a greek_a do_v not_o altogether_o warrant_v bellarmin_n translation_n but_o equal_o admit_v another_o which_o will_v fall_v short_a of_o his_o proof_n for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o well_o signify_v stand_v in_o need_n of_o the_o saint_n intercession_n as_o pray_v for_o it_o and_o so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o want_v their_o protection_n now_o we_o may_v stand_v in_o need_n and_o may_v reap_v the_o benefit_n of_o the_o saint_n supplication_n in_o heaven_n for_o the_o people_n of_o god_n here_o on_o earth_n &_o yet_o have_v no_o warrant_n to_o call_v upon_o
they_o except_o we_o can_v be_v better_o assure_v that_o they_o do_v hear_v we_o this_o therefore_o be_v a_o fallible_a and_o ambiguous_a proof_n unless_o ratify_v by_o some_o other_o passage_n out_o of_o chrysostom_n phil._n the_o cardinal_n refer_v to_o other_o place_n in_o that_o father_n for_o the_o same_o proof_n theoph._n he_o do_v so_o to_o his_o great_a shame_n and_o disadvantage_n to_o the_o demonstration_n of_o his_o supiness_n not_o of_o the_o point_n he_o send_v we_o to_o chrysostoms_n five_o homily_n upon_o s_n t_o matthew_n where_o the_o holy_a father_n in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o application_n or_o moral_a upon_o the_o text_n press_v much_o upon_o we_o the_o duty_n of_o be_v sober_a and_o watchful_a in_o prayer_n to_o god_n for_o ourselves_o and_o not_o depend_v upon_o the_o prayer_n of_o other_o for_o no_o man_n may_v deliver_v his_o brother_n nor_o make_v agreement_n to_o god_n for_o he_o ps_n 49._o 7._o he_o instance_v in_o moses_n that_o can_v not_o prevail_v for_o miriam_n nor_o samuel_n for_o saul_n nor_o jeremy_n for_o his_o people_n &c_n people_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &c_n &c_n if_o we_o ourselves_o be_v negligent_a other_o can_v help_v we_o if_o we_o be_v watchful_a we_o may_v prevail_v for_o ourselves_o more_o then_o by_o other_o intercession_n for_o god_n choose_v rather_o to_o give_v his_o blessing_n to_o we_o for_o ourselves_o then_o for_o other_o pray_v for_o we_o for_o so_o say_v he_o he_o have_v compassion_n upon_o the_o canaanitish_a woman_n &_o save_v the_o harlot_n &_o thief_n 〈◊〉_d thief_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d none_o mediate_a or_o play_v the_o advocate_n to_o god_n for_o they_o will_v any_o sober_a man_n believe_v bellarmin_n shall_v direct_v we_o unto_o this_o homily_n for_o the_o proof_n and_o encouragement_n unto_o the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n depart_v phil._n perhaps_o he_o reflect_v upon_o chrysostom_n next_o word_n in_o that_o homily_n 〈◊〉_d homily_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o speak_v these_o thing_n not_o that_o we_o shall_v not_o desire_v the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n but_o that_o ourselves_o shall_v not_o be_v slothful_a he_o will_v not_o discourage_v man_n from_o sue_v to_o the_o saint_n theoph._n to_o the_o saint_n live_v not_o the_o decease_a all_o his_o instance_n in_o the_o homily_n show_v this_o in_o samuel_n pray_v for_o saul_n and_o moses_n for_o miriam_n and_o their_o prayer_n be_v unsuccessfull_a because_o the_o person_n for_o who_o they_o pray_v be_v not_o worthy_a in_o the_o next_o place_n your_o cardinal_n send_v we_o to_o the_o eight_o homily_n where_o there_o be_v not_o a_o syllable_n for_o his_o purpose_n there_o in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o show_v that_o neither_o the_o iniquity_n of_o our_o father_n nor_o of_o the_o place_n wherein_o we_o live_v shall_v hinder_v we_o in_o the_o course_n of_o virtue_n if_o we_o will_v take_v heed_n unto_o ourselves_o as_o joseph_n live_v virtuous_o in_o egypt_n and_o the_o three_o child_n in_o babylon_n and_o hezekiah_n be_v a_o good_a son_n of_o wicked_a ahaz_n and_o abraham_n of_o terah_n a_o idolater_n if_o this_o prove_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n let_v it_o be_v so_o in_o the_o next_o place_n we_o follow_v he_o unto_o chrysostoms_n 43_o homily_n upon_o genesis_n where_o we_o have_v the_o former_a text._n no_o man_n may_v deliver_v his_o brother_n etc._n etc._n if_o we_o neglect_v ourselves_o neither_o father_n nor_o kinsman_n can_v stead_v we_o no_o not_o the_o saint_n &_o righteous_a man_n who_o have_v great_a confidence_n with_o god_n only_o a_o jesuit_n chemical_a brain_n can_v extract_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n out_o of_o these_o passage_n of_o chrysostom_n come_v we_o now_o to_o the_o next_o place_n of_o chrysostom_n whether_o bellarmin_n refer_v we_o to_o his_o first_o homily_n upon_o the_o first_o epistle_n to_o the_o thessalonian_o there_o the_o good_a father_n exhort_v we_o in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o be_v watchful_a and_o solicitous_a for_o ourselves_o and_o then_o other_o prayer_n also_o may_v benefit_v we_o etc._n we_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n it_o be_v good_a say_v he_o to_o enjoy_v the_o prey_n of_o the_o saint_n but_o when_o we_o be_v co-worker_n with_o they_o where_o he_o evident_o speak_v of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o live_n for_o we_o instance_v in_o peter_n deliverance_n out_o of_o prison_n through_o the_o servant_n prayer_n of_o the_o church_n act._n 12._o and_o in_o paul_n desire_n the_o saint_n shall_v contend_v in_o prayer_n for_o he_o phil._n 1._o 19_o and_o now_o tell_v i_o be_v not_o this_o a_o great_a deceit_n &_o cheat_n upon_o the_o reader_n when_o the_o good_a father_n speak_v of_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n live_v which_o we_o shall_v desire_v for_o bellarmin_n to_o transfer_v it_o unto_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n depart_v in_o the_o last_o place_n your_o cardinal_n send_v we_o unto_o chrysostoms_n panegyric_n upon_o two_o martyr_n jubentius_n and_o maximinus_n tom_n 5._o and_o i_o suppose_v he_o have_v a_o eye_n unto_o that_o passage_n of_o the_o father_n as_o soldier_n show_v their_o wound_n receive_v in_o war_n appear_v with_o great_a confidence_n before_o the_o general_n or_o their_o prince_n so_o these_o bless_a martyr_n present_v their_o head_n which_o be_v cut_v off_o in_o their_o hand_n may_v easy_o obtain_v what_o they_o shall_v desire_v of_o the_o king_n of_o heaven_n now_o from_o hence_o what_o will_v you_o infer_v phil._n that_o as_o they_o can_v prevail_v much_o with_o god_n we_o shall_v the_o more_o importunate_o beg_v the_o favour_n of_o their_o intercession_n theoph._n why_o do_v not_o the_o holy_a father_n make_v that_o inference_n himself_o or_o make_v his_o application_n to_o they_o in_o prayer_n we_o say_v because_o he_o do_v not_o approve_v the_o doctrine_n of_o prayer_n to_o the_o saint_n in_o heaven_n all_o that_o he_o exhort_v his_o hearer_n unto_o in_o the_o close_a of_o his_o panegyric_n be_v this_o to_o go_v unto_o the_o monument_n of_o these_o martyr_n with_o faith_n and_o joy_n that_o by_o the_o sight_n of_o their_o shrine_n and_o remembrance_n of_o their_o glorious_a suffering_n they_o may_v reap_v much_o fruit_n and_o so_o live_v that_o they_o may_v share_v in_o their_o happiness_n will_v he_o not_o have_v encourage_v the_o people_n of_o god_n to_o pray_v unto_o these_o martyr_n if_o he_o have_v think_v it_o beneficial_a or_o duty_n and_o now_o i_o begin_v to_o understand_v that_o when_o your_o subtle_a cardinal_n refer_v to_o a_o place_n by_o figure_n &_o quote_v not_o the_o word_n at_o length_n he_o well_o know_v they_o will_v not_o serve_v his_o turn_n only_o to_o impose_v upon_o the_o credulous_a reader_n either_o to_o believe_v he_o or_o to_o be_v put_v to_o a_o endless_a trouble_n in_o the_o search_n &_o discovery_n but_o i_o have_v be_v content_a to_o devour_v this_o trouble_n &_o have_v with_o great_a indignation_n find_v he_o a_o deceiver_n and_o and_o yet_o before_o i_o leave_v s_o t_o chrysostom_n i_o will_v refer_v you_o to_o one_o of_o 60._o of_o tom._n 5._o hom._n 60._o his_o homily_n where_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o the_o history_n of_o the_o canaanitish_a woman_n he_o show_v etc._n show_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n that_o we_o prevail_v most_o with_o god_n by_o our_o own_o prayer_n rather_o than_o other_o intercession_n the_o apostle_n say_v he_o interpose_v for_o that_o woman_n but_o our_o saviour_n answer_n be_v a_o denial_n i_o be_o not_o send_v but_o unto_o the_o lose_a sheep_n of_o israel_n but_o her_o own_o importunity_n prevail_v for_o her_o daughter_n recovery_n which_o be_v the_o sum_n of_o her_o desire_n there_o chrysostom_n express_o tell_v we_o thou_o have_v no_o need_n of_o mediator_n with_o god_n to_o fawn_v upon_o other_o to_o pray_v for_o thou_o but_o if_o thou_o be_v destitute_a of_o all_o protector_n thyself_o by_o thyself_o call_v upon_o god_n shall_v thou_o obtain_v all_o can_v desire_v he_o will_v not_o grant_v unto_o we_o upon_o the_o request_n of_o other_o so_o as_o upon_o our_o own_o he_o put_v the_o objection_n which_o your_o doctor_n usual_o propose_v that_o we_o be_v not_o worthy_a to_o appear_v in_o the_o lord_n presence_n 〈◊〉_d presence_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d what_o say_v thou_o be_v thou_o unworthy_a become_v worthy_a by_o thy_o perseverance_n in_o prayer_n to_o god_n our_o bless_a saviour_n say_v he_o compare_v the_o woman_n of_o canaan_n to_o a_o dog_n unto_o who_o the_o child_n bread_n must_v not_o be_v give_v and_o yet_o soon_o after_o he_o cry_v out_o o_o woman_n great_a be_v thy_o faith_n phil._n you_o may_v as_o well_o urge_v these_o like_a passage_n of_o chrysostom_n against_o the_o mediation_n and_o intercession_n of_o christ_n and_o
command_v as_o whatsoever_o we_o do_v either_o in_o word_n or_o deed_n to_o do_v all_o in_o the_o name_n of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n give_v thanks_o to_o god_n and_o the_o father_n by_o he_o theodoret_n comment_n be_v angelos_n be_v deo_fw-la &_o patri_fw-la gratiarum_fw-la actionem_fw-la emittite_n per_fw-la ipsum_fw-la non_fw-la per_fw-la angelos_n offer_v up_o to_o god_n your_o sacrifice_n of_o praise_n by_o he_o not_o by_o the_o angel_n again_o we_o find_v not_o one_o syllable_n either_o in_o theodoret_n or_o the_o council_n of_o laodicea_n concern_v simon_n magus_n or_o his_o heresy_n but_o only_o those_o christian_n which_o do_v worship_n and_o pray_v to_o angel_n to_o conclude_v this_o answer_n it_o be_v the_o miserable_a device_n of_o the_o school_n to_o shift_v off_o evident_a &_o unanswerable_a argument_n with_o obscure_a and_o srivolous_a distinction_n give_v no_o real_a satisfaction_n either_o to_o themselves_o or_o other_o so_o in_o the_o point_n of_o image_n worship_n 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of_o this_o holy_a father_n to_o prove_v the_o invocation_n of_o saint_n etc._n saint_n tract_n 84._o in_o joannem_fw-la non_fw-la sic_fw-la mart._n ad_fw-la mensam_fw-la commemoramus_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o do_v not_o so_o commemorate_v martyr_n at_o the_o holy_a table_n as_o we_o do_v other_o who_o rest_n in_o peace_n so_o as_o to_o pray_v for_o they_o but_o rather_o that_o they_o may_v pray_v for_o we_o .._o and_o the_o second_o place_n be_v like_a unto_o it_o de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la serm._n 17._o commendari_fw-la 17._o injuria_fw-la est_fw-la pro_fw-la mart._n orare_fw-la cujus_fw-la nos_fw-la debemus_fw-la orat._n commendari_fw-la it_o be_v a_o injury_n to_o pray_v for_o a_o martyr_n unto_o who_o prayer_n we_o shall_v be_v commend_v theoph._n in_o these_o two_o parallel_a passage_n s_o t_o augustin_n show_v that_o the_o commemoration_n of_o the_o martyr_n at_o the_o altar_n in_o the_o time_n of_o divine_a service_n must_v not_o be_v construe_v a_o prayer_n for_o 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of_o your_o observation_n you_o please_v i_o pass_v to_o the_o three_o testimony_n which_o bellarmin_n bring_v from_o s_o t_o etc._n t_o lib._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la c._n 4._o nisi_fw-la ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la ut_fw-la dum_fw-la recolunt_fw-la ubi_fw-la sunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n augustin_n i_o do_v not_o see_v what_o advantage_n to_o the_o dead_a be_v the_o care_n of_o their_o friend_n to_o bury_v they_o near_o the_o tomb_n of_o some_o martyr_n unless_o herein_o that_o whilst_o they_o remember_v where_o the_o body_n of_o their_o friend_n do_v lie_v they_o may_v commend_v they_o unto_o those_o saint_n as_o patron_n to_o be_v assist_v by_o their_o prayer_n theoph._n notwithstanding_o this_o testimony_n we_o shall_v willing_o be_v try_v by_o this_o book_n concern_v s_n t_o augustins_n judgement_n in_o the_o point_n of_o pray_v to_o the_o saint_n and_o i_o will_v therefore_o give_v you_o a_o short_a account_n of_o the_o whole_a book_n in_o the_o beginning_n s_o t_o 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cruelty_n of_o tyrant_n that_o so_o christian_n who_o
auxilium_fw-la memory_n eodem_fw-la deo_fw-la invocato_fw-la in_o auxilium_fw-la the_o same_o lord_n be_v call_v upon_o for_o our_o assistance_n mark_v it_o god_n be_v call_v upon_o for_o his_o assistance_n that_o we_o may_v imitate_v the_o martyr_n virtue_n etc._n virtue_n lib._n 20._o centra_fw-la faustum_n manich._n c._n 21._o quod_fw-la offertur_fw-la deo_fw-la offertur_fw-la etc._n etc._n again_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o which_o be_v offer_v at_o the_o shrine_n and_o memory_n of_o the_o martyr_n be_v offer_v to_o god_n phil._n this_o be_v true_a as_o to_o sacrifice_n which_o belong_v only_o to_o god_n but_o not_o as_o to_o our_o prayer_n theoph._n our_o prayer_n be_v christian_a sacrifice_n ascend_v up_o like_o the_o incense_n and_o the_o evening_n sacrifice_n psal_n 142._o 2._o offer_v unto_o god_n thanksgiving_n and_o pay_v thy_o vow_n unto_o the_o most_o high_a and_o call_v upon_o i_o in_o the_o time_n of_o trouble_n say_v the_o prophet_n david_n psal_n 50._o 14_o 15._o so_o 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no_o such_o service_n from_o we_o but_o express_o say_v he_o they_o direct_v we_o to_o pray_v to_o god_n etc._n god_n psal_n 96._o tom._n 8._o omnes_fw-la sancti_fw-la &_o angeli_fw-la etc._n etc._n ad_fw-la ejus_fw-la cultum_fw-la etc._n etc._n all_o the_o saint_n and_o angel_n seek_v his_o glory_n who_o they_o love_v and_o they_o study_v to_o draw_v all_o who_o they_o love_v to_o his_o worship_n and_o to_o his_o contemplation_n and_o to_o pray_v to_o he_o to_o this_o effect_n elsewhere_o he_o tell_v we_o script_n we_o lib._n de_fw-fr pastoribus_fw-la c._n 8._o sunt_fw-la montes_fw-la boni_fw-la sc_fw-la autores_fw-la divin_fw-fr script_n the_o author_n of_o holy_a scripture_n be_v good_a hill_n and_o when_o we_o look_v unto_o they_o they_o will_v send_v you_o back_o to_o god_n in_o who_o stand_v your_o help_n contristabuntur_fw-la help_n si_fw-mi in_o iis_fw-la spem_fw-la posueris_fw-la contristabuntur_fw-la if_o you_o put_v confidence_n in_o they_o they_o will_v grieve_v the_o 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