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A33225 A view of the whole controversy between the representer and the answerer, with an answer to the representer's last reply in which are laid open some of the methods by which Protestants are misrepresented by papists. Clagett, William, 1646-1688. 1687 (1687) Wing C4402; ESTC R10868 75,717 128

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