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and_o descant_v upon_o this_o scripture_n as_o they_o please_v it_o be_v evident_a from_o the_o same_o that_o the_o angel_n will_v admit_v no_o worship_n of_o himself_o and_o he_o draw_v man_n to_o the_o immediate_a worship_v of_o christ_n adora_fw-la he_o do_v not_o distinguish_v say_v worship_v i_o with_o religious_a worship_n as_o god_n friend_n or_o worship_v i_o not_o as_o the_o prime_a fountain_n and_o principal_a donor_n or_o with_o latria_n but_o simple_o and_o without_o all_o distinction_n he_o protest_v against_o this_o religious_a and_o sacred_a reverence_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yield_v thy_o worship_n to_o god_n as_o for_o i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o be_o thy_o fellow_n servant_n and_o a_o fellow_n servant_n etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d see_v thou_o do_v it_o not_o let_v no_o other_o do_v it_o last_o if_o our_o adversary_n will_v have_v we_o regard_v their_o distinction_n let_v they_o not_o like_a spider_n spin_v they_o out_o of_o their_o own_o brain_n but_o let_v they_o yield_v we_o any_o text_n or_o example_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n wherein_o holy_a angel_n recipiendo_fw-la or_o bless_a saint_n or_o the_o bless_a virgin_n live_v or_o defunct_a do_v ever_o require_v or_o receive_v or_o our_o saviour_n or_o any_o of_o his_o apostle_n in_o their_o behalf_n do_v ever_o appoint_v such_o religious_a worship_n to_o be_v yield_v unto_o they_o as_o papist_n require_v jesuit_fw-la jesuit_o 4._o pray_v unto_o saint_n not_o injurious_a unto_o god_n mercy_n but_o rather_o a_o commendation_n thereof_o the_o four_o cause_n why_o protestant_n out_o of_o their_o zeal_n unto_o god_n refuse_v to_o invocate_v saint_n be_v the_o high_a conceit_n of_o god_n mercy_n for_o see_v he_o call_v all_o man_n immediate_o to_o himself_o come_v unto_o i_o all_o you_o that_o labour_n 18._o and_o i_o will_v refresh_v you_o we_o wrong_v his_o infinite_a goodness_n in_o not_o approach_v unto_o he_o by_o prayer_n without_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n this_o their_o zeal_n be_v not_o join_v with_o science_n of_o the_o course_n of_o god_n merciful_a providence_n who_o divine_a wisdom_n prescribe_v certain_a bound_n and_o as_o it_o be_v law_n to_o the_o infinity_n of_o his_o mercy_n which_o order_n and_o prescript_n whosoever_o do_v neglect_v and_o yet_o hope_v to_o obtain_v favour_n he_o do_v not_o true_o confide_v but_o erroneous_o presume_v god_n be_v infinite_o merciful_a and_o say_v come_v to_o i_o all_o that_o labour_n yet_o the_o man_n that_o shall_v seek_v to_o he_o for_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o will_v not_o submit_v himself_o to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o water_n shall_v hope_v in_o vain_a and_o to_o no_o purpose_n challenge_v he_o of_o his_o promise_n come_v to_o i_o all_o wherefore_o it_o import_v we_o very_o much_o to_o know_v and_o to_o use_v those_o mean_n of_o approach_v unto_o god_n that_o he_o have_v appoint_v now_o that_o the_o intercession_n of_o saint_n be_v one_o mean_n without_o which_o god_n will_v not_o bestow_v many_o grace_n and_o favour_n as_o well_o spiritual_a as_o temporal_a christian_n tradition_n do_v deliver_v unto_o we_o which_o tradition_n be_v suitable_a with_o the_o bountiful_a 138.17_o and_o noble_a disposition_n of_o god_n which_o be_v not_o only_o to_o honour_n and_o glorify_v those_o that_o have_v be_v zealous_a of_o his_o honour_n to_o the_o effusion_n of_o their_o blood_n but_o also_o to_o make_v the_o world_n know_v and_o understand_v that_o he_o do_v honour_v they_o for_o this_o knowledge_n be_v both_o for_o his_o glory_n and_o also_o for_o the_o good_a of_o man_n that_o see_v how_o high_o god_n honour_v his_o constant_a friend_n they_o be_v provoke_v to_o endeavour_n by_o pure_a life_n to_o gain_v his_o favour_n answer_n first_o our_o doctrine_n and_o zeal_n be_v ground_v upon_o divine_a revelation_n for_o we_o be_v
therefore_o depend_v upon_o their_o office_n do_v also_o cease_v now_o i_o subsume_v to_o pray_v for_o people_n distinct_o and_o in_o particular_a depend_v upon_o the_o call_n and_o office_n of_o man_n while_o they_o be_v live_v but_o when_o they_o be_v defunct_a this_o call_n and_o office_n cease_v or_o if_o they_o deny_v this_o let_v the_o adversary_n prove_v the_o contrary_a by_o divine_a revelation_n therefore_o although_o abraham_n and_o job_n pray_v for_o abimelech_n and_o eliphas_n etc._n etc._n while_o abraham_n and_o job_n live_v and_o although_o abimelech_n and_o the_o rest_n must_v by_o god_n precept_n be_v holpen_v by_o their_o prayer_n yet_o it_o follow_v not_o from_o hence_o that_o the_o live_a ought_v to_o make_v intercession_n to_o the_o saint_n decease_v very_o he_o that_o read_v this_o section_n of_o the_o jesuit_n may_v well_o wonder_v and_o ask_v whether_o such_o discoursor_n ever_o believe_v or_o hear_v that_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v incarnate_a that_o he_o be_v our_o advocate_n and_o that_o by_o he_o we_o have_v access_n to_o the_o throne_n of_o grace_n 〈◊〉_d or_o that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v leave_v a_o manifest_a and_o certain_a rule_n of_o prayer_n in_o the_o church_n consider_v that_o these_o man_n be_v so_o presumptuous_a upon_o their_o own_o frivolous_a surmise_n to_o prescribe_v a_o form_n of_o religious_a invocation_n jesuit_fw-la jesuit_o 5._o invocation_n to_o saint_n not_o a_o injury_n but_o a_o honour_n to_o christ_n the_o only_a mediator_n another_o show_n of_o piety_n pretend_v against_o prayer_n unto_o saint_n be_v that_o it_o seem_v to_o overthrow_v the_o mediatorship_n of_o christ_n which_o s._n paul_n commend_v as_o only_o unus_fw-la mediator_n dei_fw-la &_o hominum_fw-la christus_fw-la jesus_n but_o 2.3_o in_o show_v the_o inanitie_n of_o this_o shadow_n i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o be_v long_o see_v this_o respect_n will_v make_v we_o also_o neglect_v and_o not_o use_v the_o mediation_n of_o live_a saint_n 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term_v a_o empty_a shadow_n will_v not_o so_o light_o be_v shake_v as_o you_o imagine_v for_o if_o christ_n jesus_n alone_o in_o the_o state_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v the_o mediator_n both_o of_o redemption_n and_o intercession_n than_o no_o saint_n live_v or_o decease_a be_v a_o mediator_n etc._n etc._n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a because_o god_n have_v constitute_v christ_n to_o be_v a_o mediator_n and_o he_o have_v appoint_v no_o other_o saint_n live_v or_o defunct_a to_o be_v so_o ergo_fw-la christ_n jesus_n alone_o in_o the_o state_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v the_o mediator_n of_o redemption_n and_o intercession_n then_o i_o subsume_v papist_n make_v saint_n decease_v partial_a mediator_n to_o wit_n of_o intercession_n votis_fw-la therefore_o they_o yield_v some_o part_n of_o christ_n the_o sole_a mediator_n his_o office_n unto_o saint_n the_o jesuit_n answer_v by_o distinction_n of_o mediator_n principal_a and_o subordinate_a or_o dependent_a say_v that_o they_o appoint_v no_o saint_n medtatour_n of_o the_o first_o kind_n but_o only_o of_o the_o second_o and_o that_o this_o be_v no_o injury_n to_o christ_n or_o encroachment_n on_o his_o office_n but_o a_o honour_n to_o he_o and_o a_o mean_n to_o apply_v or_o make_v his_o mediation_n effectual_a to_o we_o and_o he_o use_v certain_a paralogisme_n to_o conclude_v this_o first_o the_o scripture_n say_v he_o allow_v and_o command_v prayer_n to_o live_a saint_n etc._n etc._n but_o these_o be_v not_o injurious_a but_o honourable_a to_o christ._n it_o be_v answer_v that_o unless_o the_o jesuit_n aequivocate_v the_o scripture_n command_v not_o invocation_n of_o live_a saint_n but_o only_o the_o request_v of_o their_o charity_n and_o prayer_n to_o god_n for_o man_n rom._n 15.30_o eph._n 6.19_o col._n 4.3_o 1._o thes._n 5.25_o heb._n 13.18_o but_o the_o live_a be_v present_a and_o conversant_a with_o the_o live_n they_o conjoin_v their_o common_a prayer_n ut_fw-la deum_fw-la quasi_fw-la manufacta_fw-la praecationibus_fw-la ambiant_fw-la say_v tertul._n apol._n c._n 39_o that_o go_v to_o god_n hand_n in_o hand_n they_o may_v entreat_v he_o beside_o invocation_n and_o prayer_n proper_o take_v praesuppose_v in_o they_o we_o pray_v unto_o understand_v the_o thought_n and_o motion_n of_o the_o heart_n and_o all_o religious_a prayer_n be_v a_o mental_a action_n understand_v by_o he_o who_o man_n deprecate_v but_o the_o live_a saint_n understand_v not_o the_o secret_n of_o each_o other_o heart_n therefore_o speak_v proper_o no_o man_n pray_v to_o live_a saint_n also_o religious_a prayer_n be_v a_o communication_n with_o god_n deo_fw-la and_o a_o proper_a worship_n of_o god_n and_o a_o action_n of_o latria_n 2._o last_o no_o precept_n or_o example_n be_v extant_a in_o holy_a scripture_n prove_v that_o just_a person_n do_v at_o any_o time_n pray_v to_o live_a saint_n be_v absent_a or_o to_o live_a saint_n by_o collet_n or_o set_v form_n of_o public_a devotion_n in_o such_o manner_n as_o romist_n do_v to_o saint_n decease_v as_o for_o petition_n or_o request_n which_o be_v all_o the_o scripture_n mention_n the_o same_o be_v only_o general_a and_o material_a in_o prayer_n and_o therefore_o we_o can_v conclude_v affirmative_o say_v they_o make_v request_n to_o the_o saint_n live_v to_o assist_v they_o with_o their_o prayer_n ergo_fw-la they_o do_v invocate_v and_o make_v religious_a prayer_n to_o they_o any_o more_o than_o we_o may_v conclude_v it_o be_v a_o live_a creature_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v a_o man_n it_o have_v one_o act_n of_o prayer_n ergo_fw-la it_o be_v prayer_n it_o be_v a_o promise_n therefore_o it_o be_v a_o vow_n etc._n etc._n if_o it_o be_v reply_v the_o request_v of_o the_o living_n to_o pray_v for_o we_o and_o their_o supplication_n according_a to_o this_o request_n be_v not_o injurious_a to_o christ_n office_n etc._n etc._n ergo_fw-la our_o invocation_n of_o saint_n decease_v be_v no_o injury_n etc._n etc._n we_o answer_v that_o as_o in_o humane_a and_o civil_a affair_n it_o be_v a_o injury_n to_o the_o supreme_a magistrate_n for_o any_o of_o his_o subject_n to_o constitute_v a_o master_n of_o request_n prefer_v their_o suit_n unto_o he_o without_o his_o authority_n so_o likewise_o it_o be_v a_o injury_n to_o christ_n our_o mediator_n for_o we_o man_n which_o be_v worm_n of_o the_o earth_n without_o warrant_n and_o commission_n from_o god_n word_n to_o constitute_v saint_n and_o angel_n mediator_n of_o our_o prayer_n and_o when_o the_o lord_n of_o heaven_n have_v give_v we_o a_o all-sufficient_a advocate_n and_o withal_o have_v prescribe_v the_o mean_n by_o which_o we_o must_v have_v access_n unto_o this_o mediator_n be_v it_o not_o wicked_a presumption_n in_o man_n to_o cancel_v this_o sacred_a ordinance_n and_o to_o appoint_v other_o mean_n of_o his_o own_o devise_v s._n cyprian_n say_v statuatis_fw-la for_o man_n to_o pray_v otherwise_o than_o the_o lord_n have_v teach_v be_v not_o only_a ignorance_n but_o iniquity_n for_o he_o have_v say_v you_o reject_v the_o commandment_n of_o god_n that_o you_o may_v establish_v your_o own_o tradition_n and_o tertullian_n fiunt_fw-la they_o be_v just_o reproach_v with_o vanity_n because_o in_o prayer_n they_o do_v this_o without_o any_o warrant_n from_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n in_o the_o court_n of_o heaven_n he_o which_o appoint_v the_o supreme_a appoint_v the_o subordinate_a and_o as_o no_o creature_n may_v assume_v so_o no_o creature_n may_v yield_v either_o supreme_a or_o subordinate_a jurisdiction_n to_o any_o in_o thing_n of_o this_o nature_n beside_o or_o without_o commison_n from_o the_o high_a therefore_o the_o distinction_n of_o mediator_n into_o supreme_a and_o secondary_a found_v upon_o man_n own_o invention_n free_v not_o the_o inventor_n from_o impiety_n against_o god_n and_o christ_n but_o be_v such_o as_o if_o a_o mortal_a man_n shall_v imagine_v subordinate_a creator_n inspirator_n yea_o subordinate_a god_n for_o the_o apostle_n conjoin_v 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martyr_n say_v 482._o that_o the_o apostle_n prescribe_v this_o as_o command_v by_o christ_n and_o saint_n cyprian_n fecit_fw-la have_v these_o word_n lex_fw-la esum_fw-la sanguinis_fw-la prohibet_fw-la euangelium_fw-la precipit_fw-la ut_fw-la bibatur_fw-la whereas_o the_o old_a law_n forbid_v the_o eat_n of_o blood_n the_o gospel_n command_v to_o drink_v the_o blood_n and_o in_o his_o 63_o epistle_n many_o bishop_n etc._n etc._n depart_v not_o from_o that_o which_o our_o master_n christ_n command_v and_o perform_v praecepit_fw-la &_o iussit_fw-la but_o other_o of_o ignorance_n and_o simplicity_n in_o calais_n dominico_n sanctificando_fw-la &_o 〈◊〉_d ministrando_fw-la in_o consecrate_v and_o minister_a the_o cup_n to_o the_o people_n do_v not_o that_o which_o christ_n our_o lord_n and_o god_n perform_v and_o teach_v petrus_n de_fw-fr occhagavia_n say_v ministrando_fw-la that_o the_o word_n et_fw-la plebi_fw-la ministrando_fw-la deliver_v it_o to_o the_o people_n be_v not_o st._n cyprian_n but_o this_o man_n go_v by_o hearsay_n as_o appear_v both_o by_o the_o elder_n &_o late_a edition_n 542._o of_o cyprian_a and_o that_o this_o be_v the_o constant_a doctrine_n of_o this_o father_n be_v manifest_a by_o other_o place_n cite_v in_o the_o margin_n 63._o therefore_o it_o be_v palpable_o untrue_a which_o the_o jesuit_n vent_v they_o be_v bind_v thereunto_o by_o obligation_n of_o custom_n and_o not_o by_o divine_a precept_n jesuit_fw-la also_o because_o the_o manichee_n be_v impious_o per_n suade_v 46._o that_o wine_n be_v the_o gall_n of_o the_o prince_n of_o darkness_n do_v superstitious_o abstain_v from_o the_o chalice_n the_o church_n in_o detestation_n quadrage_n of_o this_o error_n command_v for_o a_o time_n communion_n under_o both_o kind_n upon_o which_o occasion_n gelasius_n pope_n make_v 〈◊〉_d the_o decree_n record_v by_o gratian_n aut_fw-la integra_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la suscipiant_fw-la aut_fw-la ab_fw-la integris_fw-la arceantur_fw-la and_o why_o 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