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A89004 A late printed sermon against false prophets, vindicated by letter, from the causeless aspersions of Mr. Francis Cheynell. / By Jasper Mayne, D.D. the mis-understood author of it. Mayne, Jasper, 1604-1672. 1647 (1647) Wing M1471; Thomason E392_15; ESTC R201569 52,704 63

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perfect Contradiction and cannot both be true Here then stands the case You building your Opinion upon the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or great depth of the ninth Chapter to the Romans inferre from thence that God gives Repentance only to some few whose peremptory will 't is that they only shall be saved Saint Paul in his first Epistle to Timothy Chapter 2. vers 4. gives us a line and plummet to sound this Depth and saves expresly That 't is the will of God that all men should be saved Between these propositions 't is his will that all shall and 't is his will that only a few shall be saved there is no Medium in which they may be reconciled but one of them must necessarily be true the other false This then being so I have alwayes held it safer to build my Faith upon those cleare places of the Scripture which have no vaile before their face then those which are mysterious and lead me to a 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 over which I stand amazed but cannot from thence infer I doe farther profess to you that I am not so wedded to this or any other Speculative Opinion but that if you will shew more convincing Scripture for the contrary I shall most readily renounce my owne thoughts and espouse my self to yours Your premonition or forewarning of me that we at Christ-church would e're long taste of a visitation hath since come to pass and in part approved it self to be true Prophecy Whether im●●ired by you or no I know not but there have been two with us who have taken away as many Copes and guilt can lesticks as if they had been superstitious Sir 't is no wonder to me that in our times silver should be Popery Or that Church utensills if they be Gold should be called superstition But certainly Sir 't was a great misinformation to send them to search for Copes or things of value to my poor Protestant Chamber where there never was a Cope though perhaps they might have found a long-difused Surplice there And as for Idolls of price if they had searcht my purse I beleeve that all the popery which in these impoverishing Times they could have found in it cast into the fire like the Jewish Earerings would neither have come forth a Silver Crucifix much less so wealthy an Idoll as a Golden Calfe Sir since at length I understand you that by agreeing upon the true state of the questions before we dispute them you mean that we should agree upon the termes in which they are to be held I am very ready to comply with you in that reasonable particular But to accept of any either of your eleven English or yout three Latine questions in the terms in which you have formed them I can by no meanes consent First Sir Because I find a piece of Artifice in the Web and contrivance of them which hath something of a Trap and Snare and Engine in it Which is that by making them as Popish questions as you can especially one of them where you insert the words Missall Breviary and Pontificall words odious to the people and part of the dismall spell which for six yeares hath raised the spirit of discord to walk among us if I should hold it affirmatively under these termes of hatred 't is possible it may beget an opinion in the minds of those that know me not that though I have more then once profest my selfe ready to fall a sacrifice in the defence of the Protestant Religion yet that this was but a disguise which concealed my hypocrisie 'till provoked I were put to defend the superstitions of the Church of Rome Sir I know upon what lesser ground● then this some in our credulous times have been unjustly called Papists Next Sir if I should hold them affirmatively with their fares thus looking towards Popery and should bring them thus clothed in your termes of superstition into the Divinity Schoole I doubt very much whether the publickness of the Defence may not draw an aspersion not onely upon me and the Moderator if he will vouchsafe to sit in the Chaire whilst we quarrell but upon the Whole already too much defame Vniversity which such as you have from numerous Pulpits called long since Ropishly affected But if it should allow of such a Dispute 't would lend fuell to your calumnies and be endangered to be no longer thought P●pish but 〈◊〉 right a Papist Thirdly Sir your first and last Question if they were purged of their odious termes cannot p●●liquely be maintained without some affront to the Parliament who by one Ordina●●● have put down the Common-prayer-book by another Epis●●p●●y If therefore under your termes I should p●l●●quely stand up in defence of them you had need procure a third Ordinance which when I have done may keep me safe Yet Sir to as●●●e you that this is no evasion in me to decline a dispute because my Sermon ●as the occasion of your challenge of me in the Pulpit and of this private conference betweene ●s since Since also you allow me the liberty of alteration and to adde my stroke to the A●●ill on which the questions to be disputed on between us are to receive the last form and shape in which with least offence and scan●●●l they may walk into the publique Lastly since the three Latine Questions you sent me are dree passages of my Sermon but so corrupted from themselves as shew them to have been once p●r●●y P●●●●stant but passing through your hands have degenerated and ●●●●ed themselves with a to-be-suspected robe of Popery the nearest way I knew for us to agree upon their true state is to deale with them as the Bishops at the Reformation dealt with the Religion of the Church of Rome that is p●rge them from their corruptions and restore them to the Primitive rule from whence they have digrest Which Ride being my Sermon if you read it with open eyes presents you with your three questions in this more ge●●i●e forme An Liturgia Ang●ican● ideò elimin●●da sie qui●●●●●ullas partes ab Ecclesiâ 〈◊〉 na●â 〈◊〉 est Neg. Christi Sa●●t●rumque imagines in Reformater Eccles●is ●●itè r●ti●eri p●ssi●t Aff. Regimen Ecclesia Anglic●na per Epis●●p●s s●t Antichristianum ex eo quòd Ecclesia Romana quā nonnulli sedem Antichristi statuunt sic gubernatur Neg. Vpon these three Questions which are but three periods of my Sermon cast into a problematicall forme if you approve of them and like a generous Adversary will promise me that neither for sen●ing of them to you now nor for defending them hereafter I shall be question'd for this I require no other security but your word I will not faile God assisting me to meet you in the Divinity Schoole at Vniversity weapons when ever you shall think fit to call upon me and to bring with you those Arguments which you say you reserve for that place and in your two letters have not vouchsafed to afford