Selected quad for the lemma: saint_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
saint_n	epistle_n	paul_n	timothy_n	1,469	5	10.7239	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A01735	A short reply vnto the last printed books of Henry Barrow and Iohn Greenwood, the chiefe ringleaders of our Donatists in England VVherein is layd open their grosse ignorance, and foule errors: vpon which their whole building is founded. By George Gyfford, minister of Gods holy worde, in Maldon.	Gifford, George, d. 1620.	1591 (1591)	STC 11868; ESTC S118836	80,934	106

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saint_n paul_n do_v not_o speak_v here_o of_o circumcision_n in_o the_o right_a use_n for_o which_o god_n do_v ordain_v it_o for_o so_o it_o be_v not_o contrary_a unto_o christ_n albeit_o the_o retain_v of_o it_o after_o christ_n come_v be_v a_o error_n also_o let_v i_o ask_v you_o further_o do_v you_o think_v that_o saint_n paul_n be_v contrary_a to_o himself_o when_o he_o circumcise_v timothy_n act_v 16._o ver_fw-la 3._o or_o after_o that_o when_o he_o will_v with_o those_o which_o have_v a_o vow_n be_v purify_v and_o offer_v a_o oblation_n according_a to_o the_o law_n act._n 21._o 26._o will_v you_o say_v that_o saint_n paul_n and_o timothy_n become_v debtor_n to_o keep_v the_o whole_a law_n or_o that_o they_o be_v abolish_v from_o christ_n it_o be_v horror_n to_o admit_v any_o thought_n that_o way_n or_o once_o to_o make_v doubt_n of_o such_o a_o matter_n neither_o will_v james_n and_o the_o other_o apostle_n have_v suffer_v or_o tolerate_v the_o church_n in_o jerusalem_n in_o 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