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A47591 Light broke forth in Wales, expelling darkness, or, The Englishman's love to the antient Britains [sic] being an answer to a book, iutituled [sic] Children's baptism from Heaven, published in the Welsh tongue by Mr. James Owen / by Benjamin Keach. Keach, Benjamin, 1640-1704. 1696 (1696) Wing K75; ESTC R32436 280,965 390

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Female are all one in Christ Jesus and Women are called Disciples and so are not Infants 2. We have plain presidents that Women were baptized which is all one with a Command Acts 8. 12. When they believed Philip Preaching the things concerning the Kingdom of God and Name of Jesus Christ they were baptized both Men and Women And also that Lyd a was baptized Acts 16. Do but shew us one like president where any Infant was baptized and we will say no more You say we have not a particular Command for keeping the first day of the Week as an Holy Sabbath to the Lord. Answ We have a command to keep the Seventh part of time as a Sabbath to the Lord Exod. 20. and plain presidents in the New Testament That on the first day the Saints did meet to Worship God Acts 20. 7. 1 Cor. 16. 1. The first day of the Week as the Christian Sabbath was also confirmed by the first miraculous appearance of Christ after his Ascension into Heaven which was the day of Pentecost Acts 2. 1 2. give like proofs for your Infant Baptism You would have us to shew what Scripture we have for re-baptizing Answ I shall answer that by and by when I come to your next Chapter where we have it again we do not own it Lawful to baptize them Again who have been once rightly baptized but Rantism is not Baptism nor are Infants the true Subjects of it You say you have shewed already That there are many examples in the Scripture for Infant Baptism which are plain unto them that understand the agreement and the consequences of Scripture Answ I answer let the Reader judge in this case now we have examined all those Texts you draw your examples from whether your consequences are clear and plain or not Obj. The Scripture calleth upon some to believe before they are baptized He that believeth and is Baptized shall be saved Mark 16. 16. and according to that Rule the Apostles did not baptize any untill they believed Acts 2. 38. This is the Second Objection Mr. Owen brings against what he hath wrote take his Answer viz. Saith he when the Scriptures saith that he that believeth and is baptized 1. It mentioneth Adult Persons viz. the unbelieving Gentiles unto whom Christ sent his Disciples Mark 16. 15. Mat. 28. 19. and not the Children of the Faithful Christ sending them into all the World to preach the Gospel into Pagan Nations and saying He that believeth and is Baptized shall be saved Mark 16. 15 16. shews that neither Baptism nor Salvation belongeth unto them until they believe in the Lord Jesus if we were to preach unto such we should baptize none until they would believe But what is this to the Seed of the Faithful of whom Christ mentioneth not 1. Answ I answer Reader observe that here Mr. Omen hath given away his cause for ever for he saith Christ speaks not of the Children of the Faithful but of the Adult Now consider that these two Texts which he here Quotes viz. Mat. 28. 19 20. Mark 16. 15 16. does contain the great and only Commission and Warranty given by the Lord Jesus the only Law-giver about Baptizing and if Infants are not mentioned nor intended here there is no Warrant at all to Baptize them for if by virtue of the great Commission all persons must first believe before they are baptized farewell for ever to Infant Baptism 2. The Objection well saith That according to this Rule or Commission the Apostles did not baptize any until they believed which is true and he cannot refute it 3. Consider that the Commission Mat. 28. 19 20. Mark 16. 15 16. did not only authorize the Apostles to go and make Disciples among the Gentile or Pagan World but also among the Jews that were the Seed of Abraham nay they were commanded first to begin or open their Commission to preach to them at Jerusalem moreover the words of this Commission is all the Commission and Warrant the Disciples and Ministers of the Gospel have to administer Baptism to all the Christian Nations to the end of the World There are not two Commissions given by Christ about baptizing one to go to the Pagan or Gentile World and another to be believing Christian World or to believers and their Seed Now there is but one Commission and only Rule we have to baptize therefore Mr. Baxter saith well i. e. Christ in his Commission directeth his Apostles to make Disciples and then baptize them promising that he that believeth and is Baptized shall be saved Baxt. Confirm p. 27. And in another place he saith speaking of this only Warrant or Commission of Baptizing if we have it not here where have we it Shall any one think Christ's Commission short and defective 4. Mr. Owen saith if we were to preach unto such that is to unbelievers or Heathens we should baptize none until they believed Now pray consider that this is his Commission to baptize if he be a true Minister of Christ let him preach to whom he will or come where he will he must do all things according to this Commission as 't is here given neither baptize Young nor Old neither Jew nor Gentile Parent nor Child until they believe or profess their Faith in Jesus Christ if he doth he Violates and acts directly contrary to his only Commission and therefore if he doth he sins Should any Commissioner of an Earthly King act contrary to the very express words and purport of his Commission he certainly would be condemned as a false and unfaithful Servant and be turned out of his Masters Service Mr. Owen saith That the Seed of the faithful Christ mentioneth not that is in his great Commission Mat. 28. 19 20. Mark 16. 15 16. therefore such he must not Baptize unless he hath from Christ received a new or any other Commission that doth authorize him so to do 5. And observable it is to see how Mr. Owen contradicts himself here in respect of what he said before when he mention'd the same Texts and Commission of Christ he told us that Children are part of the Nations that Christ commanded to be Baptized but now he saith The Seed of the Faithful Christ mentioneth not and besure now at this turn he speaks the Truth and if none of the Seed of the Faithful ought to be Baptized by vertue of Christs Commission but such only of them that do believe then no Infant for Teaching is making of Disciples so that they are to be taught so as to believe before they are to be Baptized and that in all Nations whether Heathens or Christians and that also to the end of the World teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and lo I am with you all ways to the end of the Word Mat. 28. 20. It is certain saith Mr. Owen that this Scripture mentioneth not of Children if it doth they must needs be damned for want of Faith
cause against you here too i. e. for the first Centuries we will examine your Authors and humane Testimonies The first is Calvin a latter Writer I know not but Ireneus and Cyprian might be both had out of him I do confess Ireneus lived not above Two Hundred Years after Christ or in the second Century thus he and many others cite him viz. Omnes venit Christus per semet ipsum salvare omnes qui per eum renascuntur ad Deum Infantes parvulos Juniores Seniores In English thus Christ Jesus came to save all by himself all who by him are born again unto God Infants and little ones Young and Old Ans Reader pray observe here is not a word of one Infant baptized but this Man infers it from his Words so that we have nothing but Consequences neither from God's Word nor the words of Man Christ no doubt came to save some of all sorts of Men and who doubts but he came to save Infants and little ones Young and Old But why must these Words who are born again be applyed to Infant Baptism The scope of Ireneas in that Chapter is to refute the Gnosticks who said that Christ did not exceed One and Thirty Years of age against whom Ireneus alledged that Christ lived in every age i. e. of Infancy Youth and old Age that by his Age and Example he might sanctifie every age So that here Ireneus speaks not of being born again in Baptism for he saith Omnes inquam qui per eum renascuntur in Deum i. e. I say all which are born again by him to God i. e. by Christ not as if he had baptized Infants but because he i. e. Christ was an Infant that by the example or virtue of his Age he might sanctifie Infants as the whole Discourse in Latin plainly shews viz. Magister ergo existens Magistri quoque habebat atatem non reprobans nec super grediens hominem neque solvens suam legem in se humani generis sed omnem etatem sanctificans per illam c. 2. As to Cyprian he lived as I find it in History about 248 or 300 Years after Christ and should I tell the Reader what Corruptions and Errors were let in about that time he would not wonder to hear Infants were allowed Baptism Yet we have Cyprian against Cyprian It is true as far as I can gather in his time Infant Baptism was first introduced without any Ground or Warrant from Christ and it was as strongly opposed which appears by the Debates and Doubts about it 3. The third humane Authority that is brought by Mr. Burkit is that cursed decree of the Milevetan Council that all who denyed Infant Baptism should be Anathema accursed If he comes but a little lower he hath proof enough in the Popish Councils Decrees and Canors But 't is to be observed that those Fathers pleaded for Infant Baptism as that which took away Original Sin and gave Children the Eucharist too in the first Sacrament abusing that Text John 3. 5. and in the other that in John 6. 53. These are all the humane Proofs from the Churches after the primitive Apostolical days which Mr. Burkit brought and I doubt not but to give better and more Authentick Authors of the ancient Fathers against Infant Baptism than hath been brought for it and some of them nearer the Apostles days too The first is Justin Martyr though I have him not yet take his Words as they are cited by Mr. Richard Baxters Saints Rest Chap. 8. Sect. 5. I will declare unto you how we offer up our selves unto God after that we are renewed through Christ those amongst us that are instructed in the Faith and believe that which we teach them is true being willing to live according to the same We do admonish them to fast and pray for forgiveness of Sinns and we also pray with them and when they are brought by us into the Water and there as we were new born are they also by the new Birth received and then in calling upon God the Father the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost they are washed in Water c. the Food we call the Euchrist to which no Man is admitted but only he that believeth the Truth of the Doctrine being washed in the laver of Regeneration for Remission of Sinns and so liveth as Christ hath taught this you see saith Mr. Baxter is no new way 4. You cite Origen who was you say famous in the year 230 who saith in Hom. 8 in Levit. de Infantibus baptizandis Ecclesia traditionem accepit ab Apostolis theChurch received infant Baptism by Tradition from the Apostles we have proved you say before this was a Scripture Tradition for the Apostles baptized little Children Ans We may cite Origen against Origen so little credit is to be given to History in this case about him and some other of the Fathers for I find Origen saith viz. they that are rightly baptized are washed unto Salvation but so was not Simon Magus he that is baptized unto Salvation receives the Water and the Holy Ghost which Simon did not but Water only Hom. 6. upon Ezek. ●…1 6. v. 4. Mountanus p. 36. 37. and in his Commentary upon Rom. 6. saith the same Origen such Baptism that was accompanied with crucifying the Flesh and rising again to newness of Life was the approved Baptism I must confess that Dr. Taylor saith that Origen and Austin are the only Witnesses that asserted Infant Baptism to be an Apostolical Tradition but it appears by Erasmus that Origen's writings were greatly corrupted by Russinus and made to speak sometimes for Infant Baptism See Jacob Merci●gus p. 283. 291. and Montanus p. 29. to 35 42 43. Sir had you proved Infant Baptism from the Scripture and that the Apostles baptized Infants you need not go to Humane History that is so uncertain and no Rule for us 5. Gregory of Nazianzum who you say was famous about the year 370 beareth witness for Infant Baptism saith he omni aetati Baptisma convenit Baptism is answerable unto every Age. And again da infantis custodiam give Infants the Baptism of the Trinity and that will be a great and excellent Guard unto them Ans I find a worthy Author that quotes this Gregory speaking quite the contrary thing in his third Oration saith he the baptized used in the first place to confess their Sins and to renounce the Devil and all his Works before many Witnesses and that none were baptized of old but they that did confess their Sins and how dangerous it was headlong and without due Preparation to partake thereof He therefore adviseth that the Baptism of Infants be deferred till they did not only make Confession of their Faith but were to desire the same see Dr. Taylor p. 239. Now worthy Britains what signifyeth the citing of such Fathers when we cannot be certain that we have their true writings God hath preserved his sacred