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A81745	The Quakers vvisdom descendeth not from above or a brief vindication of a small tract, intituled, The Quakers folly made manifest to all men, as also of its authour, from the exceptions made against it, and aspersions cast upon him. In a pamphlet called The voice of wisdom, &c. published by George Whithead, Quaker. / By Tho. Danson, M.A. late fellow of Magd. Coll. Oxon. And now minister of the Gospel at Sandwich in Kent.	Danson, Thomas, d. 1694.	1659 (1659)	Wing D217; Thomason E2255_4; ESTC R210142	19,984	42

credible Witnesses as Mr. and Mrs. Hooke and divers others And at Aldermanbury on a Lords day June 12 1659. whilst the Psalm was singing a Quaker gat up into the Pulpit with his Hat on his head and setting his Breech upon the Cushion fell to sewing Anoth●r example as remarkable as the former was in Christ-Church Octob. 6 1659. It being a Day of publick Thanksgiving the Parl. L. Major Aldermen Com. Coun. Officers of ●he army being there met together to hear Dr. Homes and Mr. Caryl who were appointed by the Parl. to preach before them Mr. Caryl being the last that preached it so fell out that when he was in his last Prayer there were two Quakers made a very great disturbance in the publick assembly in the very presence of authority This will be testified by many Witnesses that were present And they seem to regard their own Worship as little as they do ours For March 6 1659 one Mary Todd of Southwark Quaker at the Bull and Mouth in Aldersgate-street an usual Meeting place whilst her Friends as they call one another were speaking pull'd up all her cloaths above her middle Mr. Tho. Cress●t Chirurgion exposing her nakednesse to the view of all that were in the Room and walked so up and down a while using several expressions about her practise as sutable to a state of innocency and perfection This I had from an eye and ear-witnesse who is named in the Margin and what a beastly and abominable practise this was especially in a woman besides the unseasonablenesse of it being in the time of their Worship such as it is I leave to thee to judge And whereas 't is an usual thing for the Quakers to call Ministers of the Gospel Liars it is well enough known that besides the Lies of their Doctrine they have not so much moral honesty as to speak Truth in matters of Fact In May last there having been some discourse one day between one Howard of Dover Quaker Mr. Russel Min. in the Marsh and a Minister in Rumney Marsh the next day was appointed for further discourse between them two but over-night the said Howard sent his horse and man for Mr. Fisher sometime a Minister now a Quaker and suspected to be a Jesuit and going with him to the place of meeting told the people that seeing S. Fisher came accidentally thither he would now leave the discourse to him whereupon one among the people stept out and told Howard that he lied for he did see his horse and man go out over-night and see the said Fisher ride into the Town on the morning upon the same horse by which it was manifest that he sent for him on purpose All that they could say in justification of themselves was that the said Fisher came accidentally in respect of the people or Minister who was to discourse they knowing nothing of his coming To conclude I desire thee Reader to peruse the Quakers answer to certain questions proposed to them hereto annexed wherein thou wilt find them denying the Scriptures to be the Rule for judging matters of Faith asserting that they should have had knowledge of God sufficient to salvation if they had never heard of the Bible and their words and writings are as infallible as the Scriptures and again denying the Persons in the Godhead the Humane Nature of Christ and that Christ is a distinct Person from the Saints and that there hath been a true Church since the Apostles till now and that one day is more holy than another And surely by these Principles in conjunction with the rest which thou hast an account of in the Book it self to which this Narrative is annexed the Quakers have for ever forfeited the name of Christians and are to be reputed Heathens Sandwich Octob. 10 1659. Questions proposed to and answered by Joseph Fuce Quaker Quest VVHether the Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testament be the Rule of trying and judging all matters of Faith and obedience towards God Answ And now I shall set down these Proofs to prove the Scriptures are not to be the Rule for to try and judge all things or matters of Faith John 5.22 c. Q. Whether the Light within you so much speak of be suffici●nt to guide you to Salvation if you had never heard of the Bible Ans I do believe if I had never seen the Bible yet believing the Witnesse which God hath given which is Christ the Light hope and Glory in us which we so much speak of and preach freely as we have received to the offending of those deceivers that preach for hire and so make merchandise of the people I say I should have attained to the knowledge of God if I had never heard of the Bible Q Whether the teachings or writings of any of your way be infallible or of equal authority with the Scriptures of the Old and New Testament Ans I say we do not erre in speaking or writing the Truth as it is in Jesus and that of God in all Consciences shall one day witnesse this to be true and infallible and the Scriptures and our writings hath and will most certainly come to passe Q. Whether the Father the Word and the Spirit be three distinct Persons in the self-same Godhead Ans As for thy words three distinct Persons that I deny till thou provest them by plain Scripture It is like the Bishops in Rome may own thee in them for that is some of their unfruitful works of darknesse Qu. Whether J●sus Christ hath a Divine and Humane Nature in one person Ans Thy words Humane Nature I return them with those words Three Persons into the Pit of confusion from whence they came Qu. Whether Jesus Christ remains for ever a distinct Person from all the Saints Ans But as for being a distinct Person from all the Saints he is not Qu. Whether the true Church hath failed upon earth since the death of the Apostles of Jesus Ch●ist mntil these times if not in what age or ages or among what people hath it continued Ans He caused all both small and great rich and poor bond and free to receive a mark in their forheads or in their right hand Read Rev. 13. And thus the true Church ceased or failed upon earth since the death of the Apostles of Christ until ●he raising up of Gods own seed out of the earth to stand a witnesse against wicked murderers and Persecutors of the Saints and true Church of Christ Qu. Whether the first day of the Week be more holy than any other day of the Week Ans All the daies of the Week as the Lord created them are holy unto the Saints who are redeemed from observing daies and moneths and times and years These things are expresly asserted and subscribed by Joseph Fuce FINIS

for his perfection and uprightnesse v. 8. was the occasion of the Devils desiring leave of God to afflict him v. 11. and of Gods grant that his words might be found true v. 12. T.D. p. 12. A Believers person with his works are accepted with God though his works be not perfect G.W. Ans Here he would have believers like the Priests who sin in the best of their performances as they confesse But I say the Believers works are wrought in God and God works them in them and these works of God are perfect T.D. Rep●y As for our confeossin 't is agreeable to Scripture Eccles 7.20 There is not a just man upon earth that doth good and sinneth not i. e. that sinneth not in doing good Exod 28.38 In●quity of holy things is there spoken of Duties which are holy for the matter are in●quity for the manner of pe●formance Your argument doth no more conclude for the perfection of Grace than it does that every child should be a man the first day of his birth for that is one of Gods works as well as Grace As for Saints they may be said to be perfect in regard of parts as a child is a perfect man 1 Thes 5.23 Sanctified in soul and body and spirit and in regard of their aims and intendments but not as to degrees of Grace Sin and Grace in this life are together in the same subj●ct as Esau and Jacob in th● same womb As for the name of Priests which throughout you give me and other Ministers of Christ I count it no disparagement however you intend it seeing Christ is called by the Holy Ghost the High Priest of our Profession Heb. 3 1. The answer of G. W to Eccles 7.20 is no other than what M. Fish r gave which is v●ry absurd and not worthy any further reply see Qu●k ●s Folly p. 13. T.D. We the Saints are one body with them in Heaven and have the same title with th m in possession p 14 38. G.W. Ans This confutes his former words for they that are one body with them in Heaven are members of the Body of Christ which is perfect and its members c●m●leat ●ol 2.10 Eph. 3 15 T D. Reply The Body of Christ is not yet perfect for the e are great numbers of elect belonging to it yet u bo n. Christ gives a commission to preach and a promise of b●●ssing to the Apostles and their successours M●t 28.19 20. And the Apostle saies that Pastors and Teachers are for the edifying of the Body of Christ till we all come in the unity of the Faith c. Eph. 3 12 13. Put both places together and they inform us that Christs Body is not built up i. e. all the Elect not converted and so not actual members of Christs body for such men are by Faith till the end of the world As for Col. 2.10 't is plain enough that the Apostle calls the Saints compleat in reference to the Doctrine of Christ which shewed them all things necessary to salvation so that they needed not the addition which natural reason humane tradition or Judaical ceremonies could make As for circumcision we find expresly that it was urged as necessary to salvation Acts 15 1. This the Apostle denies They are also said to be compleat in Christ in respect of Ordinances and outward priviledges as particularly of Baptism which rendred ci●cumcision uselesse because it signified the same thing which circumcision did in a more large and emphatical manner v. 11 12. As for Eph. 3.15 Ther 's nothing in that v. to his purpose but I suppose he means v. 19 That ye might be filled with all the fulness of God Fulnesse of God intends not equality but quality a divine and spiritual fulnesse And the Apostle praies that they m●ght be filled with it all and so they should be in Heaven but he asserts not that either they were or should be filled in this life QUESTION 3. Concerning Justification T.D. VVHereas S. Fish ● spoke of our good work being a m●● to ●ou cause of our justification this P●iest hath M●●l● much ado to p ove th●t S. F. 〈◊〉 a rank Papist and ●●i●h our good wo●ks are but imperfectly good and Isa 64.6 All our righteousn●ss●s are as filthy rags G. A●s S. F. never affirme● that imperfect works and the righteousnesse which is as il hy rags do dese●ve Just●fication as this P●● hath w●●nged him but good works wh●ch are the fulfilling of th ●aw T.D. Reply Whether I have w●●nged S. F I leave to the Readers judgment that shall peruse Qu●kers Folly p. 14 ●5 I urged against him ●●r though our evil works did cond●mn yet ou● g●●d work● could not justifie because none of ou● good wor●●●n this life are perfect and so not the fulfi l●ng of the Law as evil works are the violation or breaking of the Law And to prove the imp●rfection of our righteousnesse I brought Isa 64 6. To which G.W. hath nor nor indeed can ans●er 'T is an expresse place The Chu ch c●●par●s all her righteousnesses to the garments of a per●on legally unclean which by the Law were unclean and to be washed because his body had touched them T.D. hath confessed p. 15. that ●ood works which are the fulfilling of the Law deserve salvation and that the desert of obedience arises from the dignity of the Subject by which it is performed G.W. Ans So then this makes for what S.F. declared for here it appears then that obedience to God is deserving T.D. Reply I did not directly affirm that good works which are the fulfilling of the Law deserve salvation but that from the rule of contraries which Mr. Fisher urged we might so argue For upon supposition that any meer man could fulfil the Law yet he could not be justifi●d unlesse he had undergone the penalty of his former disobedience and so made reparations to the Justice of God for damages sustain'd And again though I asserted the desert of obedience from the dignity of the Subject yet withal I affirmed that the Subject must be an infinite person and one from whom no obedience is due Quakers Folly p. 15. T D. gives the explication of 1 Cor. 6.11 Where by the Spirit of our God is interpreted of the Spirits application i● referring to Just fication or else it may relate to Sanctification spoken of in the former clause G.W. Ans He would divide the Spirit of God from the Name of Jesus when as his Name and Spirit are one And where doth he prove that justified by the Spirit which he ignorantly calls the third Person in the Trinity is not the work of Grace Here he would divide the Grace of God from the Spirit for the Saints were just●fied freely by his Grace which was one with the Spirit T. D Reply Though Jesus and the Spirit are one God yet they have distinct operat●ons or manner of working about our Justification 'T is Jesus alone and not the Spirit nor